As I live smack in the middle of Kansas I love finding videos like this ! So many people complain about Kansas being boring. They just do not know what they are standing on ! Thank you for this video.
I'm a lifelong Kansan and have forded the Walnut River with my horse and wagon (even have video of it on RUclips and Blogger). I never heard of this site but I'm glad to know of it now and I hope the discoveries there continue. Thank you for sharing!
If I'm not mistaken there are records of similar constructions all throughout the Ohio Valley along the rivers there. Early European settlers robbed stone from sites to build roads, and observed huge cultivated swaths of various nut and fruit trees that had been overgrown for many decades.
There are stone constructions all over N America that have been explored, dug up, looted and destroyed for building material, artifacts and "souvenirs" for generations, usually attributed to "ancients", "giants" or "aliens". I grew up living by the Norumbega Wall, along the Hudson River by NYC and even then, construction companies(with permission of the government)were tearing down the giant stone walls and battlements for their building projects. Much has been lost but enough remains to marvel at these ancient sites and the peoples who built them.
@mattgush3021 0 seconds ago Hi Ted! @tedlogan4867 Yes! The Ohio Valley is spectacular- if you're in the area, Id definitely recommend exploring Fort Ancient, Serpent Mound, and Hopewell Culture National Historical Park. And to your specific question about the repurposing of building elements in modern times, you might enjoy this read: www.amazon.com/Indian-Mounds-Middle-Ohio-Valley/dp/0939923726 Appreciate you watching the documentary!
Yeah, we finally got one tribe to open up about what kinds of stone monuments they were leaving behind- rarely anything spectacular. Often just low stone walls, or stones piled in specific ways. I feel like the Mound building cultures did things in a different way & that might explain some of the more confusing mound structures whose purposes are largely unclear. The coolest thing about it is, now knowing that & reading about some of the sites recorded in detail before they were destroyed, you can tell that many different peoples over successive generations were identifying the same places as sacred & leaving their own, unique markers on it without disrupting what was already there. The fruit & nut trees wouldn't have been orchards, the way we think of them, but we know tribes were altering the land for greater resource abundance & less hunting/ gathering effort nearer to their villages. What makes it harder with Quivira is that these were ancestral Caddoans, related to the Pawnee, Arakawa & Wichita & those peoples' traditional dwellings were basically conical huts made of grass bundles around a low mud wall. With the petroglyph designs- I want to say Caddoan peoples believed all life sprang from a sacred cave along a river.
Thank you for sharing. I’m born and raised in KS. This is very interesting. It is hard to find any new information on this. Appreciate your work! Take care
Unfortunately, the Spaniards brought European diseases with them that the natives had no immunity to. Those diseases reduced the populations of the natives to probably no more than 10-15 percent of the former population numbers. That is why later explorers didn't find the large populations. It was the same in the Amazon basin in South America.
@@amberyooper Yes. When the white settlers got to Middle Tennessee about 1800 there were very few Native Americans ... and they were mostly hunters and gatherers. The good farm bottom lands however all had huge ancient Indian Mounds and huge areas of stone lined graves. Even up in the hills people found springs that had been properly walled up with stones to protect the water flow. But all of those mound builders and farmers were gone. Smallpox is a possible cause of this population destruction. .... Syphilis (or Great Pox) however, may have come from the Americas. So, I guess there was at least some payback.
Gorgeous footage! Great concise information too! Our middle school summer school program met you several years ago when you worked with Dr. Blakeslee. Your video showcases the complexity and beauty of these sites.
yes, christians have systematically worked to hide infromation like this worldwide for thousands of years. lets not worry about that part though. anyways, see you sunday at church. praise god.
Has anyone thought about LIDAR mapping the area? Features on bluffs and incised valleys where agriculture hasn't affected the surface might be able to be linked together. Southeastern Kansas between the Ozark Uplift and the Flint Hills is a regional drainage. As goes water, so do animals.
If I remember correctly, they used drones following the ruins up to Winfield. They only contracted to Winfield not thinking it went further. The lidar showed it continued past Winfield but they haven't gone further yet.
very interesting, having grown up here in northeast Texas and knowing of Caddo sites in area here as well as great bend of Red River in southwest Arkansas, this was a most fascinating program.
I am near fort Riley and have noticed lots of mounds on post and rock walls spread throughout the entire installation. I cannot find any info online as to when or who emplaced them but they seem of some serious age. After visiting Cahokia I have been hooked on ancient America. Thank you for this video
What were the people of Kansas trading that made it worth transporting heavy pottery vessels from Colorado, North Dakota and Texas into the middle of the country? And what was in the vessels that made it worth carrying that far in a time when that kind of transportation would have taken months or even years?
A fit person can run a hundred miles in a day. You can walk 20 miles a day. I think you are severely underestimating how far a person can travel in a short time.
@@williambrandondavis6897 A person carrying nothing or only essentials for survival, yes. But carrying a load of pottery for trade, or hides or jerky to return? After rewatching the video, it sounds more like the pottery was maybe brought to Kansas as part of a very large hunting party not necessarily for trade but instead to support the people of the hunting party by carrying food or other essentials. If it was trade, then water transportation could potentially account for the ability to move enough goods to make it worthwhile, which brings me back to my question, what were they trading that made it worth transporting for that distance.
THANK YOU! I first read about this a few years ago. I'm a native Kansan and live about 100mi east of Winfield and have always been interested in Native Americans.
I would love to know more about how this city-state interacted with the Mississippian Empire to the East? Were they contemporaries? Allies? Adversaries?
This is interesting. You might want to look up "Isle Royale Copper mines" which apparently was an ancient mine re-opened in ~1000 AD to 1320, [by Vikings]. The prolific author Philip Coppens wrote a paper on this subject, and I'm NOT kidding you, but the copper mined there can be traced [molecular tracing] to copper used in Europe to make brass. Yes, brass! This was use in Europe and Eurasia as armor, weapons, et c. It was likely transported thousands of years before the Norsemen opened this mine. Who mined copper in the Great lakes region? NOT native Americans, and not Vikings. Enjoy your research.
I have been to Heavener Runestone many times. There is also a nearby Poteau Runestone. You need to look into Scott Wolter's work on the Kensington Runestone.
Noah’s FLOOD…and then mini events similar to wip away the history under our feet. Did you know they found TYRE - ancient city….after burrowing into the earth several stories….how do ENTIRE civilizations get BURIED underground?….FLOOOOOOOODS
@@freedomlover3323 Well, since the discovery and excavation of this site only happened fairly recently (2017), and at first they hadn't discovered much. Watch videos about it from a few years ago and you'll see what I mean. This video highlights how much more complex and potentially very important this site is. They are continuing to excavate but at a slow pace due to issues with private land ownership.
My grandfather once told me the natives “weren’t doing anything with the land”. This type of misconception is thankfully being slam dunked by sound archeology, and hopefully common sense and appreciation and respect for indigenous peoples.
@@ReligiousZealotYes the environmental damage that's been done, the Dust Bowl and all the pollution is not something Natives did. That's a settler thing. Europeans were dirty and polluted their own water sources for centuries before they left Europe. Their diseases were responsible for many Native people dying because they had no experience with that level of disease and pollution.
@@ReligiousZealotThe Bible isn't real. It was invented by the Romans to subdue the Judean Zealots. Europeans weren't mentioned in it. You're believing in Roman propaganda. LoL
How many millions were here before the Spanish? People have no problem accepting the ages of Mayan cities. But, the N. American sites should be much older but people can't believe it or wish to deny it?
The earliest Spanish explorer s reported huge population centers. Over a hundred years later nothing was left. The diseases brought by the Spanish had decimated the population and the cities were gone.
So many Americans are completely in the dark about North American archeology and anthropology. It's the only continent where ancient culture is largely unknown and missing from the world record of civilizations. I think the Smithsonian is partly to blame.
left wing activists as well, all of the mound museums near me have taken thousands of artifacts off display because it offended them. Now theres so much red tape to get permission for digs and grants because of it
I'm left wondering how many of the people who lived there survived after that initial encounter. And how many that were in their network survived. I've read of perhaps up to 20 million in the indigenous population of the Americas. And disease ravaged most before they ever saw a European. Facinating site. Great presentation, thank you.
What evidence of water systems, hygeine systems, transportation systems have been found at sites like this? I'd love to learn about important things like this in context of the population size, oh---and to hear of their economy, population density, and genetic diversity. What tools and levels of technology are represented?
Incredible.Where is this? Kansas?? ...interesting...I found something somewhat similar out here in NY and found this video as I followed the henge here,due west.I first presumed what I found,to only occupy the east coast and appalachians,but this and other sites in Montana,make me think this huge henge I found...,just became huger.😳
Oh hey, I grew up in Kansas and never heard of this.. we had a castle Cortez built while looking for that golden city or whatever though.. very interesting
Not only has the news media has lied to us......We have also been lied to about the history of the USA...love video like this...Greetings from Murfreesboro Tennessee...
Yes, I would imagine the area around Scott City may have many more ruins buried than currently known. Then you look further west at Taos Pueblo... so fascinating.
@@tyschues the smokey hills to the red dirt the whole west of ks had a lot of sand flow north to south . The river in dodge city has so much extra sand water level is like 12 feet below the river bed and still flowing east
My theory is that this site held an important religious or ceremonial purpose. I imagine it may have been seen as the lifesource of Earth, given there are several deep wells and flowing rivers in the area. Or perhaps it was a place for communion with their ancestors. Or perhaps even a medicinal purpose for pregnant women or women with fertility issues. The flowing water artwork and notches in rocks (thought to be fertility related) certain lend credence to any of these theories.
Thats not a theory, a theory is based on observation and practice. This is your delusion based on 7min of some guy saying some shit from his own head canon.......at least try to think critically will you....
Thousands of years from now some archaeologists will find the foundations of my house and they will also find the remains of dozens of our pets we buried over the years. They will immediately declare that this was the site of a religious temple, "proven" by the many remains of animals we "sacrificed" to our pagan gods!
these people populations were hit hard and on the decline from the ice ages. then the invasion from the land bridge and other sources wared with them and eventually wiped them out with minor absorption into their own tribes. this is why when the europeans flooded in after columbus all above the mexican border where living in teepees and following the buffalo herds with much lower populations and more primitive lifestyles.
Absolutely amazing ... and the Book of Mormon is a fake? I think it wise to explore all possibilities for the explanation of prehistoric civilization on the North American continent, including Language and DNA evidences.
A" battlefield" with iron shot from Spaniards, and no arrowheads from natives in the other direction sound a lot more like another "massacre" site to me. I bet the story is skewed to protect the guilty.
WHY would the Spanish chronicler "skew" the account? Why would they make themselves out to be losers? As far as arrowheads, the natives were NOT wiped out, by any means. There were SEVERAL settlements, The Spaniards fought the Escanjaques. Most of the settlements were Rayados. Thus, there were a LOT of natives surviving when the Spanish decided to head south after the battle. The natives could've gone out and collected all/most of the spent arrows. Arrowheads were quite valuable individually. BTW, bows and arrows have beaten plenty of forces with primitive cannons in the past. Do your research instead of "betting" and wildly speculating.
@@SEKreiver no they found lead shot, thats been around since just a couple decades after the civil war... knowing kansas it was just a couple jayhawkers getting drunk and shooting cannons at each other
Don't give Neanderthals short shift yet. They still walk amongst us, their genes can be found lingering in most humans, it's just been diluted by time. I'm sure that there is more to find out.
@@Comeoffitman Ah! Depending on the age of the vessel, they can be found relatively close to the surface and a few feet into the earth- older artifacts can be even deeper. The team is still working to establish the complete chronology of the site, but there is much evidence for hundreds of years at this point.
As an avid historian, and an aspiring archaeologist in my younger days, an archaeologist could find a latrine but to sell it and gain funding they call it a “ceremonial site”! 😂
(Smart Alek comment) The fertility rock looks like the male had to prove his masculinity by pock marking the rock with his shaft. The bigger the pock mark the more manly he was (at least after he healed, if he healed 😢😂)
Civilizations of the nimplims... Before the flood.... Book of Enoch reads 200 f Watchers descended down on to Mt. Hermon and made a pack... Then mingled with the daughters of men .. Bare minimum of 201 different variations of mankind... Bare minimum of 201 different so called megalific structures (cities)
The coincidence meter is busted and nobody gets it. Sometimes I think we're sent messages by way of names and numbers. There are no coincidental excuses when that happens. And we don't usually catch on or listen to the ones who do. Life is older than dirt.
@@MySilverSprings Showing images of something else far away and claiming it's the same thing is not history. Why not show the actual site ..... if it really exists.
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As I live smack in the middle of Kansas I love finding videos like this !
So many people complain about Kansas being boring.
They just do not know what they are standing on !
Thank you for this video.
Kansas ROCKS.
Lived in Abilene for 60 years. First I've ever heard of this. :)
I am in the same boat!! I’ve never heard of this either!
I live on the edge of the flinthills and never heard of this!
Seems a lot of us Jayhawkers have never heard of it !
I'm a lifelong Kansan and have forded the Walnut River with my horse and wagon (even have video of it on RUclips and Blogger). I never heard of this site but I'm glad to know of it now and I hope the discoveries there continue. Thank you for sharing!
You're so welcome. I have a feeling we'll be hearing a lot more from here in the future!
If I'm not mistaken there are records of similar constructions all throughout the Ohio Valley along the rivers there. Early European settlers robbed stone from sites to build roads, and observed huge cultivated swaths of various nut and fruit trees that had been overgrown for many decades.
There are stone constructions all over N America that have been explored, dug up, looted and destroyed for building material, artifacts and "souvenirs" for generations, usually attributed to "ancients", "giants" or "aliens". I grew up living by the Norumbega Wall, along the Hudson River by NYC and even then, construction companies(with permission of the government)were tearing down the giant stone walls and battlements for their building projects. Much has been lost but enough remains to marvel at these ancient sites and the peoples who built them.
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Hi Ted! @tedlogan4867 Yes! The Ohio Valley is spectacular- if you're in the area, Id definitely recommend exploring Fort Ancient, Serpent Mound, and Hopewell Culture National Historical Park. And to your specific question about the repurposing of building elements in modern times, you might enjoy this read: www.amazon.com/Indian-Mounds-Middle-Ohio-Valley/dp/0939923726 Appreciate you watching the documentary!
Somewhere I read that the NEW YORK GIANTS were named because of the giant skeletons discovered in NY. I can’t site the source.
Yeah, we finally got one tribe to open up about what kinds of stone monuments they were leaving behind- rarely anything spectacular. Often just low stone walls, or stones piled in specific ways. I feel like the Mound building cultures did things in a different way & that might explain some of the more confusing mound structures whose purposes are largely unclear. The coolest thing about it is, now knowing that & reading about some of the sites recorded in detail before they were destroyed, you can tell that many different peoples over successive generations were identifying the same places as sacred & leaving their own, unique markers on it without disrupting what was already there. The fruit & nut trees wouldn't have been orchards, the way we think of them, but we know tribes were altering the land for greater resource abundance & less hunting/ gathering effort nearer to their villages.
What makes it harder with Quivira is that these were ancestral Caddoans, related to the Pawnee, Arakawa & Wichita & those peoples' traditional dwellings were basically conical huts made of grass bundles around a low mud wall. With the petroglyph designs- I want to say Caddoan peoples believed all life sprang from a sacred cave along a river.
Yes. Facts.
Thank you for sharing. I’m born and raised in KS. This is very interesting. It is hard to find any new information on this. Appreciate your work! Take care
And thank you for watching it! It was incredible to spend the time there.
Accounts from DeSoto spoke of traveling for days on roads with the land being farmed on both sides as far as the eye could see
Hundreds of thousands of Indian villages along most tributaries…for generations…
They were smart they ran
Unfortunately, the Spaniards brought European diseases with them that the natives had no immunity to. Those diseases reduced the populations of the natives to probably no more than 10-15 percent of the former population numbers. That is why later explorers didn't find the large populations. It was the same in the Amazon basin in South America.
@@amberyooper Yes. When the white settlers got to Middle Tennessee about 1800 there were very few Native Americans ... and they were mostly hunters and gatherers. The good farm bottom lands however all had huge ancient Indian Mounds and huge areas of stone lined graves. Even up in the hills people found springs that had been properly walled up with stones to protect the water flow. But all of those mound builders and farmers were gone. Smallpox is a possible cause of this population destruction. .... Syphilis (or Great Pox) however, may have come from the Americas. So, I guess there was at least some payback.
@@davidsellers3639 no disease got them.
Gorgeous footage! Great concise information too! Our middle school summer school program met you several years ago when you worked with Dr. Blakeslee. Your video showcases the complexity and beauty of these sites.
So awesome to hear from you!! Just saw him last week- might be making more soon!
This is the first time I hear about this place. How fascinating!
yes, christians have systematically worked to hide infromation like this worldwide for thousands of years. lets not worry about that part though. anyways, see you sunday at church. praise god.
Appreciate you watching!
Has anyone thought about LIDAR mapping the area?
Features on bluffs and incised valleys where agriculture hasn't affected the surface might be able to be linked together.
Southeastern Kansas between the Ozark Uplift and the Flint Hills is a regional drainage. As goes water, so do animals.
LiDAR is available state wide (Kansas) via the local NRCS office in every county. I'm hoping that resource has been utilized.
The whole country has been mapped. They know what was and is here.
@@MovingTarget3the whole country has been mapped at some level of detail.not always at a resolution that would be beneficial for archeology.
If I remember correctly, they used drones following the ruins up to Winfield. They only contracted to Winfield not thinking it went further. The lidar showed it continued past Winfield but they haven't gone further yet.
Pay attention to this video; he says they found the ceremonial site using Lidar.
Thank you. What you are teaching needs to be out there for everyone as the truth. Amazing
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Blakeslee was a great professor. Truly a real educator. Happy to see his amazing work unfolding. Cheers!
Ill send along your regards- So glad you found it!
Thank you for sharing this with me as I was born and raised in Kansas !
@@Kerry-uo6og go on, get!
@@Kerry-uo6og go on, get!
You're so welcome! Appreciate you taking the time to watch.
I’m very familiar with that area. I was born just a few miles from there 74 years ago. How exciting to know this. Thank you.
You're so welcome! Appreciate you watching!
very interesting, having grown up here in northeast Texas and knowing of Caddo sites in area here as well as great bend of Red River in southwest Arkansas, this was a most fascinating program.
Appreciate you watching!
Its an incredible cultural area! Appreciate you watching!
Herington Kansas is wonderful! Love it here!
Fantastic state! Thanks for watching!
I find the understanding and interpretation of history and artifacts absolutely fascinating. 😊
I find the lameness and grossness of your comment absolutely embarrassing for you. 😊
Me too! Thanks for watching!
WOW! WOW! WOW!!! Why haven't we heard of this place before? This is extremely interesting, thank you for sharing!
That's a complicated question to answer, and I appreciate you taking the time to watch!
I am near fort Riley and have noticed lots of mounds on post and rock walls spread throughout the entire installation. I cannot find any info online as to when or who emplaced them but they seem of some serious age. After visiting Cahokia I have been hooked on ancient America. Thank you for this video
What were the people of Kansas trading that made it worth transporting heavy pottery vessels from Colorado, North Dakota and Texas into the middle of the country? And what was in the vessels that made it worth carrying that far in a time when that kind of transportation would have taken months or even years?
Fish grease
twinkies and whiskey
A fit person can run a hundred miles in a day. You can walk 20 miles a day. I think you are severely underestimating how far a person can travel in a short time.
@@williambrandondavis6897 A person carrying nothing or only essentials for survival, yes. But carrying a load of pottery for trade, or hides or jerky to return? After rewatching the video, it sounds more like the pottery was maybe brought to Kansas as part of a very large hunting party not necessarily for trade but instead to support the people of the hunting party by carrying food or other essentials. If it was trade, then water transportation could potentially account for the ability to move enough goods to make it worthwhile, which brings me back to my question, what were they trading that made it worth transporting for that distance.
Flint
Oh this is fascinating! I've lived in Kansas my whole life and never heard of these discoveries until today!
So many new things coming out of the ground- Appreciate you watching!
Hello Y'all, keep up the good work and vids. Be safe and take care, "God Bless", sincerely, Randy. 😇🙏👊
Thanks, Randy! Appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Amazing. Well done video. Truly my mind is blown!
I love the mind blowing! Appreciate you taking the time.
THANK YOU! I first read about this a few years ago. I'm a native Kansan and live about 100mi east of Winfield and have always been interested in Native Americans.
You're so welcome! Appreciate you watching!
Dorothy: "We're not in Kansas anymore, Toto". Toto" Yes, we are!" Fascinating, thanks!
Thanks for spending time with it!
Wow. I had no idea this existed! Thank you!
You're most welcome. Appreciate you watching!
Wow, wild!!! I live close to a couple sites here in Oklahoma that are sooooo interesting and likely from the same era. Great video! Cool history!
Incredible to think about the aggregate of sites in the area. Appreciate you watching!
Where are the areas in OK? Maybe Spiro Mounds?
- also OK native.
@@lofolulu Hi there! You may enjoy this page: www.okhistory.org/learn/archaeology3
I live in leavenworth and when i retire i want to help do this recover somewhere
I walk creeks for points and fossils its my fave thing to do
that’s incredible. first time I am learning of this!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
I love Kansas
Me too! Thanks for watching.
I would love to know more about how this city-state interacted with the Mississippian Empire to the East? Were they contemporaries? Allies? Adversaries?
Much more to discover in that arena- Don is working on a new book that will address some of that!
Mysteries beneath the soil remain to be found..
So many! Thanks for watching.
The Viking museum in Heavener, Oklahoma is a fascinating place. There are runestones and artifacts from a Viking settlement from the 9th century.
This is interesting. You might want to look up "Isle Royale Copper mines" which apparently was an ancient mine re-opened in ~1000 AD to 1320, [by Vikings]. The prolific author Philip Coppens wrote a paper on this subject, and I'm NOT kidding you, but the copper mined there can be traced [molecular tracing] to copper used in Europe to make brass. Yes, brass! This was use in Europe and Eurasia as armor, weapons, et c. It was likely transported thousands of years before the Norsemen opened this mine.
Who mined copper in the Great lakes region? NOT native Americans, and not Vikings. Enjoy your research.
I have been to Heavener Runestone many times. There is also a nearby Poteau Runestone. You need to look into Scott Wolter's work on the Kensington Runestone.
Weren't those found to be 19th century forgeries?
@MegaKemper Scott Wolter's analysis of the Kensington stone says it can't be a forgery.
@@davidclardy "It's a great testimony to Scandinavian humor on the frontier."
I'm having trouble understanding how the entire place is underground in so little time. Did I miss something about that?
Probably flooded
@@Patrick-xd8jv Likely I think. The video just left many more questions than answers for me.
Noah’s FLOOD…and then mini events similar to wip away the history under our feet. Did you know they found TYRE - ancient city….after burrowing into the earth several stories….how do ENTIRE civilizations get BURIED underground?….FLOOOOOOOODS
@@freedomlover3323 Well, since the discovery and excavation of this site only happened fairly recently (2017), and at first they hadn't discovered much. Watch videos about it from a few years ago and you'll see what I mean. This video highlights how much more complex and potentially very important this site is. They are continuing to excavate but at a slow pace due to issues with private land ownership.
Nice Work & Video 👍
Thanks so much for taking the time with it!!
I've heard of Quivira, but didn't know exactly where in Kansas it was.
Yeah! Its a broad area, but south central Kansas, near the Oklahoma border.
My grandfather once told me the natives “weren’t doing anything with the land”. This type of misconception is thankfully being slam dunked by sound archeology, and hopefully common sense and appreciation and respect for indigenous peoples.
Yeah they still werent doing anything with the land lol, all these sites were desolate for a LONG time before europeans came across
@@ReligiousZealot "lol"? the mystical mocker. Thanks for chiming in.🙄
They were not.
@@ReligiousZealotYes the environmental damage that's been done, the Dust Bowl and all the pollution is not something Natives did. That's a settler thing. Europeans were dirty and polluted their own water sources for centuries before they left Europe. Their diseases were responsible for many Native people dying because they had no experience with that level of disease and pollution.
@@ReligiousZealotThe Bible isn't real. It was invented by the Romans to subdue the Judean Zealots. Europeans weren't mentioned in it. You're believing in Roman propaganda. LoL
Incredible!!!
Thank you!!
Very neat video. One of our main streets here is named Quivira.
The connections are all over! Appreciate you watching.
Thank you ❤❤❤❤🌹🌹🌹🌹💯💯💯💯
Thanks for watching Joey!
Excellent
Appreciate you!!
How about The serpent mound and the other petroglyphs in Central Kansas.
I have seen crystal clear Springs with very unusual multi-colored fish.
what part of Kansas? Southeastern?
Ark City
@@phaedruscj3330 I was born in Winfield. Used to fish the Walnut, beautiful river.
Thank you.
Thank YOU for watching!
I was exploring an area in south of the country and came across a clearing of rocks and broken rocks and reading glasses 1.5 power.
This guy has the coolest job ever
Ive been saying Don is a national treasure for awhile!
Extraordinary 😊
Appreciate that!
How many millions were here before the Spanish? People have no problem accepting the ages of Mayan cities. But, the N. American sites should be much older but people can't believe it or wish to deny it?
Gov conditioning and no acknowlegment.
there are archaic and paleo sites all over the midwest, just hard to find evidence because the active layers are multiple feet deep
The earliest Spanish explorer s reported huge population centers. Over a hundred years later nothing was left. The diseases brought by the Spanish had decimated the population and the cities were gone.
So many Americans are completely in the dark about North American archeology and anthropology. It's the only continent where ancient culture is largely unknown and missing from the world record of civilizations. I think the Smithsonian is partly to blame.
left wing activists as well, all of the mound museums near me have taken thousands of artifacts off display because it offended them. Now theres so much red tape to get permission for digs and grants because of it
I'm left wondering how many of the people who lived there survived after that initial encounter. And how many that were in their network survived. I've read of perhaps up to 20 million in the indigenous population of the Americas. And disease ravaged most before they ever saw a European.
Facinating site. Great presentation, thank you.
Appreciate you watching! You might be interested in this read: www.amazon.com/American-Holocaust-Conquest-New-World/dp/0195085574
Sounds like a very old trading post. Very cool!
An apt analogy! Appreciate you watching.
I believe we have similar sites in Oklahoma.
Very cool. Thanks!
Appreciate you watching!
similar to the Sage Wall in Montana, we are just discovering many sites in America that clearly contradict the narrative we were sold...
Fascinating
Hey, thanks! Appreciate you spending time with it.
Can America have our own Time Team yet?
We did for a couple seasons on PBS. It never got popular 😢. You might be able to find some episodes on here.
What evidence of water systems, hygeine systems, transportation systems have been found at sites like this? I'd love to learn about important things like this in context of the population size, oh---and to hear of their economy, population density, and genetic diversity. What tools and levels of technology are represented?
I am in wonder how the redefinition is. 100 year ago this would have been a middle size city ... 200 years ago a major city
I do believe there’s a pyramid next to the Tuscarawas river by Newcommerstown, Ohio
There's a lot going on in that region! Thanks for watching.
Incredible.Where is this? Kansas?? ...interesting...I found something somewhat similar out here in NY and found this video as I followed the henge here,due west.I first presumed what I found,to only occupy the east coast and appalachians,but this and other sites in Montana,make me think this huge henge I found...,just became huger.😳
Very Cool, Have you found any Native Mega Art ? It could be the reason for mega sites :) Huge gardens of mosaic art to tell songs :)
They met the Spaniards and a battle ensued. Why am I not surprised.
God speed on your dig. This is extremely interesting.
wow, last sentences seem to profoundly rewrite the history of the so call "discovery"...very interesting
Absolutely. Thanks for watching!
Oh hey, I grew up in Kansas and never heard of this.. we had a castle Cortez built while looking for that golden city or whatever though.. very interesting
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Not only has the news media has lied to us......We have also been lied to about the history of the USA...love video like this...Greetings from Murfreesboro Tennessee...
The Smithsonian Museum has confiscated a lot of artifacts to cover up our history.
Born and raised in Kansas and love Texas
I was born and raised in Kansas but i Live in Texas now and I want to move back to Kansas
Southwest kansas needs looked at a little deeper . Sod houses deep ravines
Yes, I would imagine the area around Scott City may have many more ruins buried than currently known. Then you look further west at Taos Pueblo... so fascinating.
@@tyschues the smokey hills to the red dirt the whole west of ks had a lot of sand flow north to south . The river in dodge city has so much extra sand water level is like 12 feet below the river bed and still flowing east
Check out little Jerusalem in Kansas
What modern day peoples are these people connected to?
200,000?
My theory is that this site held an important religious or ceremonial purpose. I imagine it may have been seen as the lifesource of Earth, given there are several deep wells and flowing rivers in the area. Or perhaps it was a place for communion with their ancestors. Or perhaps even a medicinal purpose for pregnant women or women with fertility issues. The flowing water artwork and notches in rocks (thought to be fertility related) certain lend credence to any of these theories.
Perhaps huh, perhaps ya just don't know and how would you. It's ok to not know things.
Thats not a theory, a theory is based on observation and practice. This is your delusion based on 7min of some guy saying some shit from his own head canon.......at least try to think critically will you....
Thousands of years from now some archaeologists will find the foundations of my house and they will also find the remains of dozens of our pets we buried over the years. They will immediately declare that this was the site of a religious temple, "proven" by the many remains of animals we "sacrificed" to our pagan gods!
There will be much to be written about this era and the deification of our animals! Thanks for watching!
@@mattgush3021 Bruh hes calling you a moron, moron 😂
That old time religion, huh? There have been a bunch of PBS specials about the Mayan.
Well I hope you got Flint Dibble's opinion on your theory.
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I feel like you get me Joey!
@@mattgush3021 yes sir. 💯🌹🇺🇸✌️
these people populations were hit hard and on the decline from the ice ages. then the invasion from the land bridge and other sources wared with them and eventually wiped them out with minor absorption into their own tribes. this is why when the europeans flooded in after columbus all above the mexican border where living in teepees and following the buffalo herds with much lower populations and more primitive lifestyles.
What are you talking about?
there werent any people here until the land bridge opened and only the plains indians lived in teepees.
I thought when anthropologists say "ceremonial" that it means they don't know what it was for.😅
Its a good jumping off point for more inquiry and discovery! Thanks for watching!
Absolutely amazing ... and the Book of Mormon is a fake? I think it wise to explore all possibilities for the explanation of prehistoric civilization on the North American continent, including Language and DNA evidences.
I tend to think, if the Indigenous Peoples had not been so susceptible to European disease, history would have been very, very different for the USA.
A" battlefield" with iron shot from Spaniards, and no arrowheads from natives in the other direction sound a lot more like another "massacre" site to me. I bet the story is skewed to protect the guilty.
And who was innocent? Then or now?
WHY would the Spanish chronicler "skew" the account? Why would they make themselves out to be losers? As far as arrowheads, the natives were NOT wiped out, by any means. There were SEVERAL settlements, The Spaniards fought the Escanjaques. Most of the settlements were Rayados. Thus, there were a LOT of natives surviving when the Spanish decided to head south after the battle. The natives could've gone out and collected all/most of the spent arrows. Arrowheads were quite valuable individually.
BTW, bows and arrows have beaten plenty of forces with primitive cannons in the past.
Do your research instead of "betting" and wildly speculating.
Or it never happened at all
@@davidsellers3639 They've found the cannonballs. Do you people research ANYTHING before bloviating?
@@SEKreiver no they found lead shot, thats been around since just a couple decades after the civil war... knowing kansas it was just a couple jayhawkers getting drunk and shooting cannons at each other
Iron shot? They had connons? Most rifle shot I've ever heard of was lead.
I like head hunting, I picked up 3 arrowheads today. If that was a treasure trove, why not show the good stuff? Busted up is for the flower bed.
In illinois i found a arrow head in a creek and asked a nearby farmer in his field if he wanted it, he said, "Thats indian junk, its garbage"
Sounds harsh but my grandpa grew up in Kansas and he had so many arrowheads it wasn’t rare to find them after awhile
Foster Brooks is that you?
Not even 1/10 of 1% explored?! That’ll keep you busy for awhile. Hope you didn’t have any retirement plans😂
Fly over with lydar
Maybe use AI to interpret the images, it may catch a lot that we may miss. Seen from a different perspective discovery awaits.
A map would be nice. At least tell us what state.
Kansas
It literally says Kansas in the title
I have lost all faith in humanity.
We are doomed.
Natives had civilizations all throughout the world……except in the Neanderthal regions of Europe Eurasia and parts of Asia……
What are you talking about?
Don't give Neanderthals short shift yet. They still walk amongst us, their genes can be found lingering in most humans, it's just been diluted by time. I'm sure that there is more to find out.
europe and asia had many native civilizations...
Was the group of indigenes whose play you destroy ever come from the ground?
Hi! Im not quite understanding what you mean- Could you rephrase your question for me?
How deep dig you dig to find the pots and pans? How many years were they here
@@Comeoffitman Ah! Depending on the age of the vessel, they can be found relatively close to the surface and a few feet into the earth- older artifacts can be even deeper. The team is still working to establish the complete chronology of the site, but there is much evidence for hundreds of years at this point.
As an avid historian, and an aspiring archaeologist in my younger days, an archaeologist could find a latrine but to sell it and gain funding they call it a “ceremonial site”! 😂
Bruh, some settler is prob rolling in his grave like "why is this guy saying my large rock pestle is an ancient monument of the underworld....
Why WSU? Why not Hayes or KU? Not fond of hubris-laden WSU. Thus I question this.
(Smart Alek comment)
The fertility rock looks like the male had to prove his masculinity by pock marking the rock with his shaft. The bigger the pock mark the more manly he was (at least after he healed, if he healed 😢😂)
Civilizations of the nimplims... Before the flood....
Book of Enoch reads 200 f
Watchers descended down on to Mt. Hermon and made a pack...
Then mingled with the daughters of men ..
Bare minimum of 201 different variations of mankind...
Bare minimum of 201 different so called megalific structures (cities)
What are "nimplims"?
@@SEKreiver read the Bible...
The coincidence meter is busted and nobody gets it. Sometimes I think we're sent messages by way of names and numbers. There are no coincidental excuses when that happens.
And we don't usually catch on or listen to the ones who do.
Life is older than dirt.
I call bs
Why?
On what?
????? SHRIEK!
LOL More kansas delusions of grandeur.
It's called history. Many people enjoy studying it and expanding their mindset. You should try it sometime.
@@MySilverSprings Showing images of something else far away and claiming it's the same thing is not history. Why not show the actual site ..... if it really exists.
@@MySilverSprings Always check the commenter's channel. If they have nothing, they're just another asshole wasting your time.
damn jayhawkers like to run their mouth
My question is, what happened between Oñate’s “visit” in 1601 and the arrival of the europeans in say 1801 that caused that civilization to disappear?
Disease’s from Europe.
Europeans arrived way before the 1800s. America declared independence in 1776 bro. Some say the vikings found North America as early as the 1400s.
Smallpox
@@grimreaper337 Yep. Too bad they didn't have a disease that killed us instead.
There appear to have been several factors.
i live in the small town that this site lays just outsde of town. there are tours available but i have not been on one.