This video is greatly appreciated! From the beginning I questioned the actual difference between SMP ink and tattoo ink, especially since tattoos/ink have been around such a long time. Almost every single SMP company promotes the use of “SMP” ink. Thanks for clearing things up!
I agree with everything you said about the ink Joe. Regarding Blue: in my opinion, there are a few things that can cause a blowout which turns a blueish tint. 1) depth of needle 2) amount of time the needle spends in the skin 3) how high the machine is running You mentioned depth and that’s pretty self explanatory. You didn’t mention the amount of time the needle spends in the skin or power of machine (voltage the power supply is running at). If the needle is held in one spot too long it’ll pump lots of ink into the skin. That’ll cause a blowout for sure and yes I’ve done it. If you have your machine turned up too high it will also cause a blowout. The voltage should be relative to the amount of resistance on the surface area being tattooed. For example... if you’re using a 14 round liner and tattooing a knee which is like elephant skin in most cases... you’ll need more juice to penetrate. But a single needle on a 52 year old man’s bald, sun damaged head doesn’t need nearly as much power. A tiny bit too much voltage or punch and you got yourself a blowout. Tattooing scalps or other body parts is a science. One little detail can make all the difference. The only way anyone can learn all of this is with experience. Unfortunately that means lots of mistakes along the way. If I missed anything or if you disagree then I’d love to hear your opinion. Thanks for posting this video. We need more truth in our lives.
Man, You are a lifesaver! I just finished my training and had some much issues with ink, mixing etc etc..Thank you so much for all your videos. These have been far more productive and transparent than anything i came across. Big thumbs up!
Thank you for your videos! I am an SMP practitioner in London, UK and I find the information and advice you give very useful. I love your passion so please keep the videos coming. Stuart 👍
Hey Joe, great video, I'm from Brazil, and the companies here advertise those special smp inks massively giving the idea that if the head is done with tattoo ink it will eventually turn blue or green, so for what I understood what makes a smp turn blue is how deep the artist goes with the needle, is that correct? Peace ✌️, sorry for any english mistakes!
I am smp artist in Turkey.If you can answer me. I have one question for you.I use scalpa and folicule brand SMP inks, but due to customs policy, I can no longer bring products from America. And I do not have access to these SMP inks. I watched your video and I think you are using tattoo ink. Is there a tattoo ink you use or can recommend to me? Dynamic Eternal Radiant
@@blacknes5681 Dynamic is great. There are more options to explore as well. Have a talk with local black and grey tattoo artists that have over 10-15 years experience. They can help you tremendously. Best of luck in Turkey. Somebody needs to collab with all of those successful hair transplant doctors in Turkey, maybe you! Smp can cover fue scars flawlessly 👌🏼
Good info. I would like for you to take a look at this company. Dermimatch. Don't go to the website and search for it because the extensive explanation about their pigment will be hard to find. Instead Google Dermimatch pigment and you will be about to find the article. I'm looking forward to hear what you have to say about this. PS I will copy and Pace with article says down below to make it easier for you to read. From Dermimatch: 10/11/2016: Why do I see some scalp jobs that look blue or purple? This is unfortunate side effect of the masses wanting to get involved in scalp micropigmentation. Certain scalp micropigmentation “clinics” are using,tattooing needles and even worse, tattoo inks. The reason tattoo ink turns blue is because it is made one of two ways; 1. The black ink is a combination of colors, with the primary color being blue. More and more blue is added until the ink starts to look black. Over time, as the tattoo fades, it appears blue as that is the only color left in the skin. 2. The ink was made using a method that has been around for centuries: mixing charcoal/carbon with water. While it is true that charcoal is black, and will not change color over time, charcaol in human skin appears blue BECAUSE it is pure black. You cannot put pure black into the skin, it will always appear blue. They may not appear blue in all lights, so you have to use a camera flash or fluorescent light to see it. We have seen some of the most well known scalp micropigmentation clinics out there using one of the 2 methods mentioned above. Most of these people that have gotten disappointing results elsewhere come to DermiMatch because they know that we can color correct to warm the bluish hue on their scalp Here at DermiMatch Hair Clinic, we do not use “ink.” We use real organic pigments which are a combination of black, gray and brown to make it look like natural hair in the skin. Our proprietary pigments have been tested in all lighting scenarios: indoor warm light, fluorescent light, camera flash light, bright LED, and sunlight. End quote..... Look forward to hearing from you. Again the information that you was given has been very informative. Thank you.
Hey Joe, Nicola here, I was reading timesuccess comment above and would like to know from you if a client came in and he was Albino white. what colour would you use on him? I am not sure if even the lightest wash would be suitable. I have never had a client like this but was wondering if you had?
Hey Joe, I asked in a scalp group on fb and haven’t really gotten an answer so wonder if you have any idea on this. Why do ink makers use isopropyl alcohol rather than benzyl alcohol?
Hi, I am from Egypt, admire your work very, very much. I burn with solid ink and a needle size 1. Is the ink sweet? Can you tell me about the type of ink that is good for smb for the scalp?
Great video thank you. How do you get the different shades of black pigment? Do you just add more water to the pure black ink to make it lighter ? If anyone knows please let me know thanks
I completely agree with you but how you explain this to your potential clients having this misleading information about and being so stresses out to hear, that in reality, we use tattoo ink without loosing.... the client in favor of somebodyelse who will tell him/ her, what he/she wants to hear....?
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE MY BROTHER!! JUST WAITING FOR THE COVID-19 TO DISAPPEAR BEFORE ATTENDING A COURSE UNDER YOUR GUIDANCE....SHALOM ........ERICK FROM SINGAPORE
Ahh finally it's been simplified! I have scrambled my brain over and over about which is the best ink to buy.. and why the hell it's so expensive!! Any premium ink recommendations and websites to get into from?
@@scalp_logic ok so I ordered 2 black premium Dynamic inks thanks to your advice. My academy was trying to sell me theres the other day and I just pretended that I already have some still haha. They want £60 GBP for 1 little bottle! Definitely looking forward to trying out Dynamic. P.s will the colour hold well and not change colour? (Sorry typical SMP technician question lol)
Hi, it is interesting point of view but ... what about that some of the pigments have witch hazel in ingredients. If you know tatoo subject you know what witch hazel is, can it keep or help to keep a real small dot, what do you think? Is such pigment with witch hazel better than regular ? Please explain.
@@scalp_logic yeah idk some places online are like iTs sO dAnGERouS. It's like impossible to find any website selling SMP ink that actually lists the ingredients. It's like they're purposely hiding it. Are you able to give exact measurements using witch hazel for maybe one sessions worth? A general recipe. Also does glycerin have any actual benefit?
That's Great saying it But You have to Prove it? Take the expensive ink and the other ink to an independent lab and let them Prove what's in it? I have No affiliation to Any Company, I'm just a guy doing My Research before I get SMP Done ✌️
I’ve had a few artists send me private videos doing just that, testing at a lab and such. Some have even gone on to make their own “smp ink”. I’m not trying to reduce anyones profits or business branding. I think it’s great for branding. I started the SMP ink selling industry, that’s proof enough for me. There is nobody to refute that. I give this information out of love and respect. I was a client myself many years ago. For consumers that do research and don’t want to get suckered, the free info is there so they can make their own sense of it :)
I had this done years ago and it turned blue. I had to have it removed via lasers. Why did this happen? Does the Black ink have a blue base? It was not a good experience.
It was done so long ago I could not even tell you. All I remember is that it was a Gal in Youngstown Ohio who at the time was new to this. We are taking like 1992 or so. Ages ago. It was removed via laser. I hired a construction company recently and the owner had this done on his hairline and it was blue. I did not want to stare but this kind of thing is not good for the business or clients. Thx for the reply. :)
@@geminidb65 A "1992 or so" ,I have never heard the word " Scalp Micropigmentation"In that era.! OK Most long hair metals were gone, but threr are people with a pony tail...even the bald guys.. Ok then we were using computers with big floppy disks with 8" format plus black screen and the green font! Forget about the internet. Aye?
@ Hidden Channels Well. The Idea was the Same. They tattooed the scalp to hide the Thin areas, then it turned blue a few months down the line. I know of one other guy who did the same thing and his turned blue also. Perhaps they went too deep into the skin or the Dye they used had a blue base. Not sure but I had to have a laser to remove it.
This video is greatly appreciated! From the beginning I questioned the actual difference between SMP ink and tattoo ink, especially since tattoos/ink have been around such a long time. Almost every single SMP company promotes the use of “SMP” ink. Thanks for clearing things up!
I agree with everything you said about the ink Joe.
Regarding Blue: in my opinion, there are a few things that can cause a blowout which turns a blueish tint. 1) depth of needle 2) amount of time the needle spends in the skin 3) how high the machine is running
You mentioned depth and that’s pretty self explanatory.
You didn’t mention the amount of time the needle spends in the skin or power of machine (voltage the power supply is running at).
If the needle is held in one spot too long it’ll pump lots of ink into the skin. That’ll cause a blowout for sure and yes I’ve done it.
If you have your machine turned up too high it will also cause a blowout. The voltage should be relative to the amount of resistance on the surface area being tattooed. For example... if you’re using a 14 round liner and tattooing a knee which is like elephant skin in most cases... you’ll need more juice to penetrate. But a single needle on a 52 year old man’s bald, sun damaged head doesn’t need nearly as much power. A tiny bit too much voltage or punch and you got yourself a blowout.
Tattooing scalps or other body parts is a science. One little detail can make all the difference. The only way anyone can learn all of this is with experience. Unfortunately that means lots of mistakes along the way.
If I missed anything or if you disagree then I’d love to hear your opinion.
Thanks for posting this video. We need more truth in our lives.
I have a question what's the voltage for smp work, I'm using Dragon pen machine 1RL 0.20 mm, some say 10 others say 11.
Great explanation 💯💯
Man, You are a lifesaver! I just finished my training and had some much issues with ink, mixing etc etc..Thank you so much for all your videos. These have been far more productive and transparent than anything i came across. Big thumbs up!
I believe you 100% but what is the reason everyone's tattoos turn blue no matter what ink is used is it the depth that does that?
Thank you for your videos! I am an SMP practitioner in London, UK and I find the information and advice you give very useful. I love your passion so please keep the videos coming. Stuart 👍
Then why does SMP procedure only last a few years but traditional tattooing last "forever"? Genuinely curious. Thanks.
Yes, the depths inserted would be the major difference here.
Love your explanation on this 'ink' topic!
@@Deeopath Video is a bit older now, but the information is still 100% accurate :)
Thank you for watching it, I really hope you got value.
Hey Joe, great video, I'm from Brazil, and the companies here advertise those special smp inks massively giving the idea that if the head is done with tattoo ink it will eventually turn blue or green, so for what I understood what makes a smp turn blue is how deep the artist goes with the needle, is that correct? Peace ✌️, sorry for any english mistakes!
Thanks man. I am a beginner SMP artist, and wondering what ink to get. So this helps lots. SMP inks are def super expensive
I am both baffled and impressed that smp inks are still a thing. It’s an upside down world we live in 😝 Best of luck on your journey man.
So is the ink diluted down or straight up dynamic out the bottle?
I am smp artist in Turkey.If you can answer me. I have one question for you.I use scalpa and folicule brand SMP inks, but due to customs policy, I can no longer bring products from America. And I do not have access to these SMP inks. I watched your video and I think you are using tattoo ink. Is there a tattoo ink you use or can recommend to me?
Dynamic
Eternal
Radiant
They are absolutely using tattoo inks. This video is over 5 years old before follicule was utilized 😳
@@scalp_logic sorry mate.I am new this job.thank you so much. Then I'm going to buy dynamic ink. Greetings from Turkey.
@@blacknes5681 Dynamic is great. There are more options to explore as well. Have a talk with local black and grey tattoo artists that have over 10-15 years experience. They can help you tremendously.
Best of luck in Turkey. Somebody needs to collab with all of those successful hair transplant doctors in Turkey, maybe you!
Smp can cover fue scars flawlessly 👌🏼
@@scalp_logicThank you very much again for the information you provided. If you ever come to Turkey, find me and I will buy you a Turkish kebab.
the micro size affecting retention and spread seemed to make sense; Is it bologna?
Yes this is true ... Iv been doing SMP for 5 years and have used Dynamic
Hi Riscon, what about the ink's colour after years..I'm asking you because next week I'm going to do my first head and I need to buy an ink..Thanks 🙏
@@manuaustralia1 looks great after years
Touch up needed every 3-5 years
Good info. I would like for you to take a look at this company. Dermimatch. Don't go to the website and search for it because the extensive explanation about their pigment will be hard to find. Instead Google Dermimatch pigment and you will be about to find the article. I'm looking forward to hear what you have to say about this. PS I will copy and Pace with article says down below to make it easier for you to read.
From Dermimatch:
10/11/2016: Why do I see some scalp jobs that look blue or purple?
This is unfortunate side effect of the masses wanting to get involved in scalp micropigmentation. Certain scalp micropigmentation “clinics” are using,tattooing needles and even worse, tattoo inks. The reason tattoo ink turns blue is because it is made one of two ways;
1. The black ink is a combination of colors, with the primary color being blue. More and more blue is added until the ink starts to look black. Over time, as the tattoo fades, it appears blue as that is the only color left in the skin.
2. The ink was made using a method that has been around for centuries: mixing charcoal/carbon with water. While it is true that charcoal is black, and will not change color over time, charcaol in human skin appears blue BECAUSE it is pure black. You cannot put pure black into the skin, it will always appear blue. They may not appear blue in all lights, so you have to use a camera flash or fluorescent light to see it. We have seen some of the most well known scalp micropigmentation clinics out there using one of the 2 methods mentioned above. Most of these people that have gotten disappointing results elsewhere come to DermiMatch because they know that we can color correct to warm the bluish hue on their scalp Here at DermiMatch Hair Clinic, we do not use “ink.” We use real organic pigments which are a combination of black, gray and brown to make it look like natural hair in the skin. Our proprietary pigments have been tested in all lighting scenarios: indoor warm light, fluorescent light, camera flash light, bright LED, and sunlight.
End quote.....
Look forward to hearing from you. Again the information that you was given has been very informative. Thank you.
Scalp Logic why would you never use it?
Hey Joe, Nicola here, I was reading timesuccess comment above and would like to know from you if a client came in and he was Albino white. what colour would you use on him? I am not sure if even the lightest wash would be suitable. I have never had a client like this but was wondering if you had?
Hey Joe, I asked in a scalp group on fb and haven’t really gotten an answer so wonder if you have any idea on this. Why do ink makers use isopropyl alcohol rather than benzyl alcohol?
Samuel Esp why would he use it? is the question
Thank you so much for your honesty and help , God bless you 🙏🙏🙏
I do it for people like you 😁
Hi, I am from Egypt, admire your work very, very much. I burn with solid ink and a needle size 1. Is the ink sweet? Can you tell me about the type of ink that is good for smb for the scalp?
Check out our newest video! It’s all about the history of inks in SMP industry :) And I mention some specific brands to check out.
Great video thank you. How do you get the different shades of black pigment? Do you just add more water to the pure black ink to make it lighter ? If anyone knows please let me know thanks
Plz give the ratio of lamp black , ipa and water smp ink
I completely agree with you but how you explain this to your potential clients having this misleading information about and being so stresses out to hear, that in reality, we use tattoo ink without loosing.... the client in favor of somebodyelse who will tell him/ her, what he/she wants to hear....?
Showcase your knowledge and experience
Hi! Whats size of needle do you recomend? 0.20 or 025? THANK YOU!!!!
3rl or 1rl. We use needles .20 all the way to .35
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE MY BROTHER!!
JUST WAITING FOR THE COVID-19 TO DISAPPEAR BEFORE ATTENDING
A COURSE UNDER YOUR GUIDANCE....SHALOM ........ERICK FROM SINGAPORE
The video is a bit old now, but still real information:)
What is now the best mark or type ink for the smp ? Pleass help me
Just to be clear, can I use dynamic triple black or any good black ink that doesn’t change in hue with a stain test and that should be good?
No, a stain test is not the answer, just one example.
Hi! Here can we buy that $25 dolar ink that you mention? Where do you buy it? Ty
Scalp Logic thanks a lot Joe! Cheers
Where do you buy your ink?
so SMP ink and normal tatto ink is same and in short normal black ink is more permanaent than smp ink ,
@@vijay-vlogging They are one and the same, and so, equally as permanent.
@@scalp_logic really thanks for your information bro , i am totally confused about inks now cleared
Please give us a link where we can buy this tatto color !
Can I do my own SMP with a dragonhawk tattoo pen and some smp ink that I purshase??? Right now im practicing with some melo ns
Ahh finally it's been simplified! I have scrambled my brain over and over about which is the best ink to buy.. and why the hell it's so expensive!!
Any premium ink recommendations and websites to get into from?
We love Dynamic and have utilized for years.
@@scalp_logic ok so I ordered 2 black premium Dynamic inks thanks to your advice. My academy was trying to sell me theres the other day and I just pretended that I already have some still haha.
They want £60 GBP for 1 little bottle! Definitely looking forward to trying out Dynamic.
P.s will the colour hold well and not change colour? (Sorry typical SMP technician question lol)
@@scalp_logic would you recommend their new dynamic greywash set or just buy my own dynamic and use your mixing guide from the other video.
@@jaimethebarber wanna know too
Hi, it is interesting point of view but ... what about that some of the pigments have witch hazel in ingredients. If you know tatoo subject you know what witch hazel is, can it keep or help to keep a real small dot, what do you think? Is such pigment with witch hazel better than regular ? Please explain.
@@scalp_logic Thanks for replay, as I know there is no witch hazel in Dynamic Black so it is not so good as Alivio which has it, isn't it ?
Nice video thanks bro,💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽👍🙌🙌🙌🙌
Hi Joe is this for real . . . . Are all these companies just re packaging normal black ink?
What's better for body.. smp ink or trico ink?
Simple black tattoo ink aka smp ink is truly organic 💯 Trico ink not,
Thanks for your video
I am just about to do my head by SMP ink is it good product.
Never heard of it
Your point for posting this vid apart from getting views on RUclips?
TO HELP PEOPLE. That still exist, you know.
What's a good tattoo permanent ink black
I've been watching all your new videos and did not even recognize you at first lol.
Why do I read everywhere how dangerous it is to use alochol in the ink? Is that true? Also why do you use alcohol over witch hazel?
Dangerous!? There is certainly a formula, too much or too little matters a lot.
Witch hazel is great and I do use to this day.
@@scalp_logic yeah idk some places online are like iTs sO dAnGERouS. It's like impossible to find any website selling SMP ink that actually lists the ingredients. It's like they're purposely hiding it. Are you able to give exact measurements using witch hazel for maybe one sessions worth? A general recipe.
Also does glycerin have any actual benefit?
Hi Joe I am trying to buy the SMP tools/kits, can not find it on amazon, can you please share a link, where can I buy, I am from UK.
SARGULTAR999 search for the dermimatch product is the best.. kit.
I try DARK black microblading color and scalp is now blue🤦🏿♂️
Microblading ink has always been the wrong move to do smp. I hope you get that rectified sir.
@@scalp_logic i think to Cover With folicule smp ink . What do U think about ?.thank you sir
We used to call it Indian ink
Yes sir, some still do :)
That's Great saying it But You have to Prove it? Take the expensive ink and the other ink to an independent lab and let them Prove what's in it? I have No affiliation to Any Company, I'm just a guy doing My Research before I get SMP Done ✌️
I’ve had a few artists send me private videos doing just that, testing at a lab and such. Some have even gone on to make their own “smp ink”.
I’m not trying to reduce anyones profits or business branding. I think it’s great for branding.
I started the SMP ink selling industry, that’s proof enough for me. There is nobody to refute that.
I give this information out of love and respect. I was a client myself many years ago. For consumers that do research and don’t want to get suckered, the free info is there so they can make their own sense of it :)
You Are Great ... Thank You
Amazing, Good Show 🕊
Can I do SMP with pmu machine?
Yes u can
Thank you 🎉
Do you sell good ink ??
Do you teach
@@ricorazors We do, but our requirements are more strict than others. Call or text us if you would like more information @ 424-335-3495
IPA can't dissolve charcoal. I tried
IPA?
IsoPropylAlcohol?
Why do they charge 1000s to put a bunch of dots on your head
Always love that comment through the years :) I think it’s easier said than done.
Because their thieves and love to rip ppl off..$600 full head at Scalp tats nyc
Thanks
So welcome 🙏🏼
could i buy online course for smp from u
Yes, you can go to our website www.scalplogic.com
I had this done years ago and it turned blue. I had to have it removed via lasers. Why did this happen? Does the Black ink have a blue base? It was not a good experience.
It was done so long ago I could not even tell you. All I remember is that it was a Gal in Youngstown Ohio who at the time was new to this. We are taking like 1992 or so. Ages ago. It was removed via laser. I hired a construction company recently and the owner had this done on his hairline and it was blue. I did not want to stare but this kind of thing is not good for the business or clients. Thx for the reply. :)
@@geminidb65 A "1992 or so" ,I have never heard the word " Scalp Micropigmentation"In that era.!
OK Most long hair metals were gone, but threr are people with a pony tail...even the bald guys.. Ok then we were using computers with big floppy disks with 8" format plus black screen and the green font! Forget about the internet. Aye?
@ Hidden Channels Well. The Idea was the Same. They tattooed the scalp to hide the Thin areas, then it turned blue a few months down the line. I know of one other guy who did the same thing and his turned blue also. Perhaps they went too deep into the skin or the Dye they used had a blue base. Not sure but I had to have a laser to remove it.
It was done by a Tatoo Place in Youngstown Ohio. So may years ago I could not remember. @@scalp_logic
Love~
You are such a liar! There is a special resin also for not turning blue. Sorry to say the truth.
rafael carlose can you give link to this information?