I had similar experience with my contractor. It was so badly done, I refused to pay for his labor. To be fair, I paid for materials. And now I am redoing it from the beginning with total tear down.
Same situation just happened to me today. The contractor was 60% completed on bathroom wall tile. I didn't pay, but since it wasn't completed, should I even pay anything because the contractor did not fulfill as promised. I just don't want any problems. Thanks
Thank you so much for sharing all your videos I'm a 56 year old woman I just finished refinishing my stairs now I'm trying to install kitchen cabinets the bathroom is next doing it myself a little by little cuz everytime I hire someone they mess up something else if something gets messed up it might as well be by me😂 I love your channel and all the info you give thanks again
What folks need to understand (spoken from my own bad experiences) is that a lot of these subcontractors your GC hires aren’t really professionals. Rather, they’re just laborers that will do the bare minimum for a “passable” job. Most property owners have no clue about construction or an eye for detail, which I think the GC/subcontractors bank on. I’m currently having my contractor redo my bathroom because the tile contractor he hired did a job I wouldn’t even consider on the DIY level in terms of quality. I hate dealing with contractors…
High-end details, like linear drains and freestanding tubs, require high-end contractors. You can't ask a guy who only knows how to install plastic shower surrounds to do work like that. He will get in over his head and bail.
Very informative n interesting upload. Had negative experience with subcontractors years ago after hurricane disaster n another project. Horrible experience similar to urs. I feel for ur disappointing results. I experienced similar results too. Kudos for helpful vid. Hopefully u will provide uploads to the progress to correct these deficencies. Peace
That is a terrible experience. Hope you take him to small claims court and get as much of your money back as possible for that horribly substandard work. If the contractor states two weeks, I would give him 1/3 up front and, depending on the progress shown, additional thirds every five days......no progress, no money.
I definitely need to watch all these videos. I want to renovate my bathroom, but I'm scared of messing it up. I need to redo the tile and either replace the tub or re glaze the tub... Then I have to take up the stick on floor tile and replace it.
I'm sorry that happened to you guys! I know a GC who lives down the street and he's awesome! We used his services to fix a poorly installed shower and then for several projects above my skill level and time constraints. I know everyone is not as lucky as we are.
It's SO difficult to find competent workers. Using a higher priced contractor does not always translate into a good job. Sad indeed! These are the times we live in!
This isn’t uncommon and is easy to deal with, you simply have them tear out the floor and redo the drain correctly. The cut back tile on the window is clearly for some trim detail, the finish issues with the paint are quick and easy, and lastly the tile blocking the door takes five minutes to fix. We don’t know what he paid, but for a professional it could easily be 60k.
Wow the wall tiles are installed in the wrong way. In some walls are horizontal and in others are vertical. And if I'm not wrog they must be interlaced not aligned.
Hi! You can place the tile in any pattern, no need to stagger, aligned is perfectly fine, the pattern on the opposite wall is how my wife wanted it, because it follows the pattern on the floor.
So sorry this happened to you. Your attitude is great but you are clearly minimizing the problems. The tile job is a "D" Grout lines do not line up. There are ways to slope those large tiles but they failed. I'm not sure even a well written contract would have prevented this. Workmanship, Workmanship, Workmanship! Hard to guarantee that! Thanks for sharing.
@@coatknight True. Would you have added something to the contract looking back at what you experienced? Or do you just have to sign what they give you?
Seeing that there are good areas not only bad areas, it screams of either a lazy worker who got tired of doing it right and sped through parts of it... or someone being underpaid.
I was told by a contractor that anyone can put builder on the side of a truck.i am doing the work myself besides electrical and plumbing.my end product may not be as finished as a GOOD pro would be but i have done everything correctly the way it should be.its so hard to find a good contractor,looking at previous work doesn’t show whats underneath
I'm sorry this happened and thank you for sharing your experience. Small suggestion: try one of those ~$100 cell phone gimbals for your future moving shots. I was getting some motion sickness watching the video. 😅
You hired cheap and never checked up on the work. I have dealt with people like you and would not have wasted my time doing an estimate. I doubt the contractor you hired is licensed and I'm sure no permits were pulled. The electric box behind the bathtub. LOL
Instead of rubbing the obvious in his face, try to be informative to the community to either how to hire a licensed contractor to repair, or how to reach out to a licensed contractor at the start. A lot of people are priced shocked and have no idea what to expect, and have a limited budget.
That setter has no business doing a shower pan. He had no clue what he was doing, I wonder how he did his mud for the slope. Why the smaller cut tile on the wall near pan. Window jamb extensions should have been tile. On the pocket door, after you figure finish floor height, you can trim with track saw, door hanging, saw on its side, protect finish floor, cut it. I would do a GFCI plug behind tub.
After 40+ years of having a Home Repair business, I have seen a lot of terrible work. GCs do NOT do any work. They sub out all trades. All GCs rob peter to pay paul on every job. If you want the work done right, you learn the ins and outs of your project, then you hire each trade. Be there when all work is done, ask questions, trust no one. I know it's tough, but in today's crap economy, it's all about money. Craftsmanship is gone.
In my experience, a pretty website and a confident salesman don’t equal good work. It’s a strange system when the person giving you assurances is never a part of the installation process. Not even the same company doing the work actually. Misaligned motives and incentives where responsibility and liability are avoided like the plague.
Why pay 1/2 upfront when you are providing the materials? At the very most I would pay each week or two, but this is a small job $10-$15k tops in labor.
Say what you want; some of those contractors are hiring migrants and they do work according to how things operate in their home country. They don’t follow the housing codes for this country. I’ve even heard horror stories about brand new homes too. I recently saw a video where the worker was applying drywall to the outside of the house instead of the inside. Be careful…..check on your projects often….
This is probably the last way you wanted to get content for your channel, but at least you are skilled enough to fix these mistakes. Always remember that there are many others out there who are unskilled and would have to pay another contractor to redo everything. Good luck with everything!
Good work isn’t cheap & cheap work isn’t good! Cheap labour/poor quality may not be the case all the time but most of the time! Good tradesman charge high for the skill,knowledge & liability! My spidey sensors tell me you went with the cheapest quote & probably immigrant cheap labour!
Will let’s see the tile is not even I have major water hammering they put 2 p-traps. My shower pan leaks they sent out unexperienced installers. I went through four installers. They also threw a fit because I put up cameras to watch them.
As a general contractor i hate this you definitely have subs or other contractors that dont care about anyones hard earned money like we know we want x amount of money for our craft if someone uses there hard money for my services i go above and beyond so i build a lifetime relationship communication is key sorry for all the bad contractors makes my life and all the other good guys out here kind of harder to build trust with people at least did some work I know some people that get deposit and never do anything me I like labor only pick what you want so you're satisfied I tell you how much to fix or install or how how much remodel labor cost and everyone is happy I get my set price I wanted the customer get everything they like gives me a blue print of how they are it done and I make it happen as they want it it's the homeowner who has to see it everyday so make it how they want it period
Seems like you got some weird cheap contractors. It’s very rare to have a contractor just come in and do labour for reno work. Did you check if they have a contractor and business license, insurance, workers comp and trade qualifications ? Sorry that you went through this but I think more homework needed to be done on your part.
14:31 Why are the tiles on the left side length ways fitted and behind you flat ? It just looks weird and the grout do not match one to the other 🙄🙄👎👎👎👎
Where were you when all this was happening, or are these guys as fast as lightning like some of the high dollar flimflam one day bath makeovers. I watch your videos and as a retired contractor I'm shocked you did see this happening, these guys must be as fast as l said, lightning. Hope money wise you didn't get burnt too bad. OUCH!
Hi! Like what I mentioned, I have a day job, working on the new house build, family events, vacation, just a perfect storm. Never hired anybody to renovate for me so this was an eye opener to just do things myself from now on.
There are so many things going on in this room including the tylines that are mismatched and out of place nothing lines up nothing is comfortable to look at
It is ironic that you work in this field and yet you still glossed over the details in the contract. I can see if you know the contractor or maybe you have worked with him before. I don't like the idea of paying 50% upfront. I want to see the quality of their work as they go. By the way, the work on the shower floor is more than a "little thing"! Hey, at least the repairs will provide content for future videos!
Most contractors are full of shit, con men really, which is not too say, there aren’t good contractors out there, but few and far between. Having said this, you need to perform due diligence in order to find the good ones.
I hired some contractors to do work simple swap out the bathtub and three tiled walls. The person that came and gave the measurements/estimate was very knowledgeable and had me sold. So I went with them. Big mistake. All of the plumbing has been re-done so far - by them. But at the end of the day I'll have to redo it. So $5k wasted and so many phone calls wasted puling teeth for them to come and fix the plumbing issues and niche holding water etc etc. Google reviews/yelp were 5 stars. Learned from that. I should of cut my losses immediately and charged them back the half I paid but I gave them too much of a chance. Salesman got me.
As a builder, I bet you all shopped around until you found the cheapest price possible, and now you cannot understand why you are getting shitty work done. Let me give you all a little word of advice “ CHEAP BECOMES VERY EXPENSIVE “, because no one is a repeat customer they have no loyalties to you. If you had gone with a builder who gave you a fair price you wouldn’t be doing this post now
“ his car broke down, his car got stolen” 😂 dude, let’s deal with some reality. You’re the guy claiming you work in this industry. Clearly the pencil pusher looking to squeeze a buck everywhere you can. So here’s a red light. If you’re an actual contractor/ builder and you drive a car to the site. Sorry, anyone in the industry knows you don’t go through any job without being short or need to replace materials that may get damaged /etc. I know zero builders that do actually real work that drive to and from sites doing actual jobs, driving a car. Maybe some dyi, back yard guy off a face book ad but then that’s your fault. I don’t need to hear anymore, your both fired.
Never vacation until work is 95% complete. It will double or maybe even triple the expense of your vacation and then you will need another one after the rework is done
Yes, it’s tough hiring good contractors. The school systems need to offer trade school as an option of high school… like they did when I was in high school 50 years ago.
It looks nice man. It looks like they just needed a little money to keep going. You probably got a very good below market price for the renovation and you did not want to be lenient to help them to keep going. The small stuff can be fixed. People like you are a nightmare. He was losing money on the project. This is why he left to do other jobs. He had to to finish your job.
I had similar experience with my contractor. It was so badly done, I refused to pay for his labor. To be fair, I paid for materials. And now I am redoing it from the beginning with total tear down.
Same situation just happened to me today. The contractor was 60% completed on bathroom wall tile. I didn't pay, but since it wasn't completed, should I even pay anything because the contractor did not fulfill as promised. I just don't want any problems. Thanks
Thank you so much for sharing all your videos I'm a 56 year old woman I just finished refinishing my stairs now I'm trying to install kitchen cabinets the bathroom is next doing it myself a little by little cuz everytime I hire someone they mess up something else if something gets messed up it might as well be by me😂 I love your channel and all the info you give thanks again
I pray your diy projects go well.
This video is exactly why homeowners should be knowledgeable about houses 👍
he's pretty clueless, as a carpenter.
Stories like this is why DIY is so popular today… can’t trust companies to do their jobs anymore
True, modern day slop artists
This is why I can't even trust "professionals" to cut and color my hair.
What folks need to understand (spoken from my own bad experiences) is that a lot of these subcontractors your GC hires aren’t really professionals. Rather, they’re just laborers that will do the bare minimum for a “passable” job. Most property owners have no clue about construction or an eye for detail, which I think the GC/subcontractors bank on. I’m currently having my contractor redo my bathroom because the tile contractor he hired did a job I wouldn’t even consider on the DIY level in terms of quality. I hate dealing with contractors…
High-end details, like linear drains and freestanding tubs, require high-end contractors. You can't ask a guy who only knows how to install plastic shower surrounds to do work like that. He will get in over his head and bail.
I had the same problem with my roofer
Never leave a contractor alone.
THANK YOU for sharing, YOU LOOK LIKE An INTELLIGENT person to allow this to happen yes. To lose 100$, I would freak.😅
Very informative n interesting upload. Had negative experience with subcontractors years ago after hurricane disaster n another project. Horrible experience similar to urs. I feel for ur disappointing results. I experienced similar results too. Kudos for helpful vid. Hopefully u will provide uploads to the progress to correct these deficencies. Peace
This is why people slowly try to figure out their own home repairs. Nothing worse than paying someone a bunch of money and having them ruin your job
That is a terrible experience. Hope you take him to small claims court and get as much of your money back as possible for that horribly substandard work. If the contractor states two weeks, I would give him 1/3 up front and, depending on the progress shown, additional thirds every five days......no progress, no money.
These subs evidently work at the apartment complex I live in.
I definitely need to watch all these videos. I want to renovate my bathroom, but I'm scared of messing it up. I need to redo the tile and either replace the tub or re glaze the tub... Then I have to take up the stick on floor tile and replace it.
I'm sorry that happened to you guys! I know a GC who lives down the street and he's awesome! We used his services to fix a poorly installed shower and then for several projects above my skill level and time constraints. I know everyone is not as lucky as we are.
Ouch, good luck! Looking forward to updates on this and the house!
First, sorry! Second, glad I'm not the only one. Third, why does the wall tile change direction on the exterior wall with window?
Hi! That was the pattern my wife wanted, she want the opposite wall going the same direction of the floor. It’s weird, but happy wife, happy life 😆
It's SO difficult to find competent workers. Using a higher priced contractor does not always translate into a good job. Sad indeed! These are the times we live in!
This isn’t uncommon and is easy to deal with, you simply have them tear out the floor and redo the drain correctly. The cut back tile on the window is clearly for some trim detail, the finish issues with the paint are quick and easy, and lastly the tile blocking the door takes five minutes to fix. We don’t know what he paid, but for a professional it could easily be 60k.
Wow the wall tiles are installed in the wrong way. In some walls are horizontal and in others are vertical. And if I'm not wrog they must be interlaced not aligned.
Aligned is fine.
Hi! You can place the tile in any pattern, no need to stagger, aligned is perfectly fine, the pattern on the opposite wall is how my wife wanted it, because it follows the pattern on the floor.
It’s tough sometimes but good luck getting everything back on track.
So sorry this happened to you. Your attitude is great but you are clearly minimizing the problems. The tile job is a "D" Grout lines do not line up. There are ways to slope those large tiles but they failed. I'm not sure even a well written contract would have prevented this. Workmanship, Workmanship, Workmanship! Hard to guarantee that! Thanks for sharing.
That sucks and have been through worse with contractors. Good luck with the fix!
Sorry to see what they did to the floor. Would love to see an episode on the perfect contract for protecting the homeowner on renovations.
Unfortunately no such thing because most won't sign anything making them liable.
@@coatknight True. Would you have added something to the contract looking back at what you experienced? Or do you just have to sign what they give you?
@@csebastian71 my expedient is that most won't sign such contracts.
Don't be too hard on yourself, happens to all of us, good references and all.
Seeing that there are good areas not only bad areas, it screams of either a lazy worker who got tired of doing it right and sped through parts of it... or someone being underpaid.
I was told by a contractor that anyone can put builder on the side of a truck.i am doing the work myself besides electrical and plumbing.my end product may not be as finished as a GOOD pro would be but i have done everything correctly the way it should be.its so hard to find a good contractor,looking at previous work doesn’t show whats underneath
Thank you for sharing my friend 🙏🏽
I'm sorry this happened and thank you for sharing your experience. Small suggestion: try one of those ~$100 cell phone gimbals for your future moving shots. I was getting some motion sickness watching the video. 😅
The tile on some walls is horizontal & other walls is vertical. Be sure to leave tons of reviews on these guys.
Yeah, I noticed that too. It looks so bad.
I as contractor never get 50% on front because I do one project on time
You hired cheap and never checked up on the work. I have dealt with people like you and would not have wasted my time doing an estimate. I doubt the contractor you hired is licensed and I'm sure no permits were pulled. The electric box behind the bathtub. LOL
Don't be so negative. I'm sure that the box behind the tub was going to be a built in liquid soap supply and dispenser.😁😁😁
Instead of rubbing the obvious in his face, try to be informative to the community to either how to hire a licensed contractor to repair, or how to reach out to a licensed contractor at the start. A lot of people are priced shocked and have no idea what to expect, and have a limited budget.
That setter has no business doing a shower pan. He had no clue what he was doing, I wonder how he did his mud for the slope. Why the smaller cut tile on the wall near pan. Window jamb extensions should have been tile. On the pocket door, after you figure finish floor height, you can trim with track saw, door hanging, saw on its side, protect finish floor, cut it. I would do a GFCI plug behind tub.
After 40+ years of having a Home Repair business, I have seen a lot of terrible work. GCs do NOT do any work. They sub out all trades. All GCs rob peter to pay paul on every job. If you want the work done right, you learn the ins and outs of your project, then you hire each trade. Be there when all work is done, ask questions, trust no one. I know it's tough, but in today's crap economy, it's all about money. Craftsmanship is gone.
Well said mate…it’s like that in Australia with construction trades! Bird dog(cheap rough/chep ruff)
In my experience, a pretty website and a confident salesman don’t equal good work. It’s a strange system when the person giving you assurances is never a part of the installation process. Not even the same company doing the work actually. Misaligned motives and incentives where responsibility and liability are avoided like the plague.
i hope you have an attorney
Sucks I need to learn and be an expert in every Reno job I attempt.
Why pay 1/2 upfront when you are providing the materials? At the very most I would pay each week or two, but this is a small job $10-$15k tops in labor.
Exactly but I bet his quote was around 5k labor. That’s the reason why he was able to front 50 percent.
Sad to see that drain, the whole thing probably has to come up for a shower or risk a compromised water seal. They are lucky you didnt sue
How was were you quoted/ charged be these contractors
That linear drain is too high
Say what you want; some of those contractors are hiring migrants and they do work according to how things operate in their home country. They don’t follow the housing codes for this country. I’ve even heard horror stories about brand new homes too. I recently saw a video where the worker was applying drywall to the outside of the house instead of the inside. Be careful…..check on your projects often….
If a subcontractor does a great job, get their information if you need them again or as a recommendation for other people.
That’s messed up bro!! 😢
I know bro, nothing to do but move on 🙏🏽
Yes bro! 👊
This is probably the last way you wanted to get content for your channel, but at least you are skilled enough to fix these mistakes. Always remember that there are many others out there who are unskilled and would have to pay another contractor to redo everything. Good luck with everything!
Good work isn’t cheap & cheap work isn’t good!
Cheap labour/poor quality may not be the case all the time but most of the time!
Good tradesman charge high for the skill,knowledge & liability!
My spidey sensors tell me you went with the cheapest quote & probably immigrant cheap labour!
You are the one ...
I’m gonna take a stab and say the labor for this job is around 4-5k when really it’s suppose to be over 10k. Do your home work people.
That bathtub looks really out of place there.
I got my bathroom remodel and the company that came out as a joke. “Payless kitchen And Bath”.
Oh my, how is your bathroom holding up?
Will let’s see the tile is not even I have major water hammering they put 2 p-traps. My shower pan leaks they sent out unexperienced installers. I went through four installers. They also threw a fit because I put up cameras to watch them.
Yo just tile on top of the floor tiles
Those "contractors" did a terrible job. I have done my own bathrooms a few times and looks way better
As a general contractor i hate this you definitely have subs or other contractors that dont care about anyones hard earned money like we know we want x amount of money for our craft if someone uses there hard money for my services i go above and beyond so i build a lifetime relationship communication is key sorry for all the bad contractors makes my life and all the other good guys out here kind of harder to build trust with people at least did some work I know some people that get deposit and never do anything me I like labor only pick what you want so you're satisfied I tell you how much to fix or install or how how much remodel labor cost and everyone is happy I get my set price I wanted the customer get everything they like gives me a blue print of how they are it done and I make it happen as they want it it's the homeowner who has to see it everyday so make it how they want it period
That tile job is terrible. Good thing you fired them
Holy crap that tile around the window is such a botched job
It’s always very hard to find a good honest and ethical contractors. Unfortunately most of them are cheaters and crooks!
I was really going to be mad if this was click bait
Seems like you got some weird cheap contractors. It’s very rare to have a contractor just come in and do labour for reno work. Did you check if they have a contractor and business license, insurance, workers comp and trade qualifications ?
Sorry that you went through this but I think more homework needed to be done on your part.
14:31 Why are the tiles on the left side length ways fitted and behind you flat ? It just looks weird and the grout do not match one to the other 🙄🙄👎👎👎👎
So bad for you. Everything they did, extremely wrong and ugly. Trust me, you should redo it
Where were you when all this was happening, or are these guys as fast as lightning like some of the high dollar flimflam one day bath makeovers. I watch your videos and as a retired contractor I'm shocked you did see this happening, these guys must be as fast as l said, lightning. Hope money wise you didn't get burnt too bad. OUCH!
Hi! Like what I mentioned, I have a day job, working on the new house build, family events, vacation, just a perfect storm. Never hired anybody to renovate for me so this was an eye opener to just do things myself from now on.
There are so many things going on in this room including the tylines that are mismatched and out of place nothing lines up nothing is comfortable to look at
I wouldn't trust anything they touched.
That tile work on the floor is absolutely horrendous!!
I agree 😫
It is ironic that you work in this field and yet you still glossed over the details in the contract. I can see if you know the contractor or maybe you have worked with him before. I don't like the idea of paying 50% upfront. I want to see the quality of their work as they go. By the way, the work on the shower floor is more than a "little thing"! Hey, at least the repairs will provide content for future videos!
Most contractors are full of shit, con men really, which is not too say, there aren’t good contractors out there, but few and far between. Having said this, you need to perform due diligence in order to find the good ones.
If you’re such an expert u should of done. Typical homeowner Joe
I hired some contractors to do work simple swap out the bathtub and three tiled walls. The person that came and gave the measurements/estimate was very knowledgeable and had me sold. So I went with them. Big mistake. All of the plumbing has been re-done so far - by them. But at the end of the day I'll have to redo it. So $5k wasted and so many phone calls wasted puling teeth for them to come and fix the plumbing issues and niche holding water etc etc. Google reviews/yelp were 5 stars. Learned from that. I should of cut my losses immediately and charged them back the half I paid but I gave them too much of a chance. Salesman got me.
You mentioned that you won't reveal the contractor's name but did you post a review on Yelp?
Did not post a review on yelp because they had a fake link attached to their website.
As a builder, I bet you all shopped around until you found the cheapest price possible, and now you cannot understand why you are getting shitty work done. Let me give you all a little word of advice “ CHEAP BECOMES VERY EXPENSIVE “, because no one is a repeat customer they have no loyalties to you. If you had gone with a builder who gave you a fair price you wouldn’t be doing this post now
“ his car broke down, his car got stolen” 😂 dude, let’s deal with some reality. You’re the guy claiming you work in this industry. Clearly the pencil pusher looking to squeeze a buck everywhere you can. So here’s a red light. If you’re an actual contractor/ builder and you drive a car to the site. Sorry, anyone in the industry knows you don’t go through any job without being short or need to replace materials that may get damaged /etc. I know zero builders that do actually real work that drive to and from sites doing actual jobs, driving a car. Maybe some dyi, back yard guy off a face book ad but then that’s your fault. I don’t need to hear anymore, your both fired.
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Thank you 🙏🏽!
What a big shame!!!! BUTCHERS INDEED!!!
this is hilarious because you have no idea what you're doing or talking about.
Ok lol
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Never vacation until work is 95% complete. It will double or maybe even triple the expense of your vacation and then you will need another one after the rework is done
There are too many bad contractors and you can’t ever rely on reviews since they have friends and family make fake reviews for them.
Yes, it’s tough hiring good contractors. The school systems need to offer trade school as an option of high school… like they did when I was in high school 50 years ago.
That’s true. I was on thumbtack once looking at reviews and the prospective contractors were leaving 5 star reviews on each other. 😅
It looks nice man. It looks like they just needed a little money to keep going. You probably got a very good below market price for the renovation and you did not want to be lenient to help them to keep going. The small stuff can be fixed. People like you are a nightmare. He was losing money on the project. This is why he left to do other jobs. He had to to finish your job.
How much did you pay for the labor? I see a lot of people hiring cheap contractors and then they complain when it looks like crap.
Sorry to see that you got jerked around my this contractor. Can't wait to see you do it over. 👍🏻
Would of been nice to know how much they are trying to charge
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