This combo is legit, but I don't think this combo can work as often as you think. That 2b (slide kick) has to connect at an extremely close range or other buttons in the combo will whiff. And in other combos neutral mp to down mp don't always connect due to push back. The only reason I mention this is because when I see people lose to striker is not bc of this block string, is just bc people aren't down mp'ing enough, or try to out speed her jabs and get countered. Conversion is a different story though.
There's a combo that even kill 1000hp characters. If you use 214MS immediately after the guard break, it does an insane amount of damage early and pushes the combo to over 1000. Literally no one is safe if Striker can get this string off.
@@NRobbi42 In case you're still wondering, about this, ending GB string on 4C 2C 6C 2B 5D (GB!), I do 214D 6C 2C j.BC 2B 4C 6C 5CC j.CD 5D 236D 214D AW for [1038] atm
You can do it at 100 mana if you use command inputs it leaves you exhausted but it doesn’t matter because you’ll get meter back after the break and you can do the 2 dive kick loop and end in one inch punch and do a ton of damage
Ultimately I think what they want us to do with striker is have trouble getting in to do the pressure but once we get in essentially we win. So I think to me it sounds kind of fair considering most of the enemies have like full screen attacks and all we got is up close and personal
This might just be fair, considering the general scheme of the game. Characters like her and Grappler have to struggle constantly in neutral against the half and full screen moves of other characters, and that problem is only amplified when the opponent has their MP gauge cranked too. That effects her approach, the moves that she's able to engage with and initiate, the defense that she has to consider, etc. For context: I primarily play Crusader and Kunoichi, so I know a bit about giving people a hard time in neutral.
Honestly i don't think having a ToD in a single fighter game is okay in any capacity no matter how hard it is to get in, i know that projectiles on this game are more annoying than other fighting games but simply dying because you made one mistake no matter how well you played the match is something marvel vs capcom 3 style, but that game at least is 3x3.
@@ally3417 But that's the thing - you wouldn't have to make just one mistake to get caught in this situation. Striker would have to make one or two mistakes to even get the 140MP that she needs to do this, and the opponent would have to make multiple mistakes in neutral or pressure to even give her the opportunity. It might be cheesey, but it's not touch and go, so you aren't gonna die from this out the gate.
@@Gamma0_0 I saw more than one video of her on awakening just deleting the other fighter, obviously it was betwen the range described on the video but the point still stands.
I don't think she is close to top 5 character, I legit think she is top 3. This setup I also don't think is cheap. I think you should be punished for bad meter management (you don't get a defensive option). She lacks the range so you make that up with rebeat and bonkers pressure so making that one of her win cons I like
Any tips on approaching characters like Launcher and Troubleshooter than lock you all time going super aggresive? When I got the shot to stop them with DP they end up just a step away from me, so only the 1st two hits of the DP happens that knock them out for a sedond while I''m stuck in the air forever, allowing them to go in again as i'm vulnerable AF. Doing tornado kick and divekick after (If I have the meter for it) 90% of the time ends up in me being hit again into another combo. So just 2-3 full combo locking me in place, if not they can pressure from range like nothing. I said those 2 as examples, but practically every single armed character, or non-armed character with a projectile can do that to me, in that scenario
7:39 Am having trouble landing this sequence on berserker the last hit always whiffs the slide in to shadow kicks on the corner i think berserker hurtbox must be weird or something
Pro tip, if you don't have the meter to guard cancel the blockstring, stop blocking and eat the hit. Worse case scenario you get comboed without the white life buildup, best case scenario the striker is shock and fails to convert
It's a legit strategy. Often times people get comfortable doing blockstrings by memory. If they connect when they aren't expecting it they will often either drop the combo or end it early in a scramble to keep it from dropping.
@@metallovaboo I don't mean at the end, if you get put in the blockstring with no meter, immediately take the hit, you won't lose much guard gauge if you do it early and you'll give your meter time to regen
Alright so my hunch was right about this character and I'm going to make her a secondary to my Dragon Knight. There are a couple of characters that I believe are insanely strong the more developed a player/the game becomes and Striker is easily one of them. This character gets in and you're dead. Almost everything she has in her kit is safe and this just makes it worse. LOL She's gonna be OD on one touch alone. Now I need to learn this guard break setup because a number of folks are either going to burn 100MP to get me off of them or eat a guard broken combo. That's the next phase after this.
You can 100% do that with 100 Mana. I labbed at least 3 different ways to do it. One thing that people don't realize is that they can just get hit so they will take less damage instead of being guard broken. Just stop blocking and you have a better chance of surviving
I do feel that the mana cost for guard cancel should 50 mana. I think that would help with defense balance, as well as add invincibility so it still executes, so that the back and forth in matches is not entirely one sided.
i agree, getting stuck in the corner is gg. there needs to be more back and forth. In smash its rapid fire back and forth, in most fighting games is take your turn and watch this long combo.
I mean she is definitly top tier when we talk about pressure, but thats only as long she can get in, if the the other player just zone you out like swiftmaster can then striker will have a really hard time.
I see a lot of people it the comments saying it's fair because u can guard cancel. But for anyone who's put in time with the game know that she then gets to just dive kick back in while you have no mana haha. And this applies very hard to Ghostblade who has no dp
Something's off with this string though...Or im going crazy... RIght at the beggining the 5CC won't connect if you don't delay a bit the 5B after the 2B or else it whiffs as there's a little pushback, therefore the enemy can DP. I've been trying everything, no delay, mashing C after 5B or delaying other buttons. Can someone confirm this? Im going crazy by watching SonicSol's inputs i see no delay yet he has no problems connecting it lol... Tried with both SM and Hitman same results
That’s because you don’t do 5CC at the beginning, you do 6C. The route goes: 2B 5B 6C 6MS 5MS 2MS jMS 5A 5B 5CC 6C 2C 2B 5MS 6MS. 2B 5B 5CC never appears in the video.
@@Sakaki98 Yes it does lol... Check 6:49 Sonicsol literally says it and you can see his inputs... So yeah i dont know what's happening and how he can do it no problem. Yo Sonic would appreciate some input on this pls. Do you slighty delay the 5B before the 5CC? @SonicSol
@@Maganagee The 2B either needs to be done deeper and/or you need dash momentum. Also, if you slightly delay 5B as you mentioned, you can still get a little bit closer without leaving a DP gap if you time it right.
When I’m fighting characters like Launcher n Trouble Shooter who just get the entire screen to fuck with you, this is absolutely completely fair. Y’all better start managing that meter cus I’m coming for ya defense
Besides the great video and getting more context on striker combo gotta say the mods for striker go hard . Like been a week and mods are flooding in plus all of pretty top quality to boot.
This is good for her but people who think this is the end all don't for get her range is short so make sure you can get in to do this so as you work on this find ways to get in so you can do this or get the hit. Even tho you can do this at 100mp don't go for the 140 or more to have Mp for something if it goes south or you mess up good luck thank you Sonic for the video
The fact that theres multiple guard breaker combos for her without even converting is nuts 😳 I wanted to learn other characters but not anymore I gotta keep up this grind with my main striker 😮💨🍆💦💦
One thing thats underrated in guard pressure is having attacks that provide alot of forward momentum. Being able to stay in your oppenent's face like how Striker can is more of a challenge for other characters
Spoiler, everyone in this game is broken in some way so it's fine. If every character has ridiculous tools then no one is overpowered. I can see Striker getting some scaling nerfs in future, though. She can keep her block pressure but I expect they'll up the scaling on some of her specials to tone down the ToDs.
Whatever grappler and striker can get, they need it. We stuck in mid range hell before we can have fun. Also thanks for the part where you split up the guard break string process in chunks. A lot of videos I see about the guard break string performs the string then shows all the inputs so the screen looks like a mess. Hopefully we can get combo recipes for training mode.
I'd say fair, she has to get in first and if a player is conscious of it, they will save meter for guard counter. It also is what makes striker, striker. her kit is built for just this.
The opponent can also wait for an opportunity to take the hit. Typically anyone who is going for something like guard break only care about the damage afterwards, so you dropping your guard actually messes up that plan, and because dnf is particular punishes anyone for so much as dropping a combo, fishing for guard break doesn't seem like a viable strategy.
i feel like this is fair only cuz most characters have range against her someone who knows the MU well i feel like will always make striker struggle getting in, depends on ur characters kit obviously but certain matchups feel like striker cannot do shit.
I think it’s fair that she has this at least because she’s the only character that has to work as hard as she does in neutral. She doesn’t have any moves that really cover the screen like any other characters so it’s harder to navigate around the screen than them. At least when she gets in she at least has this. So yea I think it’s fair but I won’t be surprised if it gets patched out
Needs to be adjusted but so does many other the other bs in the game. Fun tho.
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Idk man, I came to the video for your content (and ofc the classic skin because its too good not to get). SSol is just too good at breaking things down for people who get lost in the info like me.
@@Underground3 starting to feel like that myself sometimes not been playing as long or as much past 2 days i dont think all but people seem to find the most effective things and spam it over and over and over and i think the offence options vastly out way the defernsive and myself as a reactive player its not fun i primarly pplay zoners in streetfighter and the reason street fighter 5 was not as fun or good as past games was this same reason its not as bad but its there least someone else is feeling this lol pray for patches or i dont know now tbh will see how the game matures
@@TheDarkFoxOfficial You wanna face SF3 Matoko? Striker. You wanna face Umvc3 Vergil? Swift Master. DNF Duel is a collage of every BS broken character you ever face in previous fighting games, in one game. But somehow you go back on it and play it again because that the magic of kusoge games. Beyond broken, still fun as hell, and really popular. As one guy put it "better for a game to failed because it different and weird. Then it to failed because it bored". So if they gonna stick to their guns towards this direction. I rather them focus on the technical issues and content.
If guard break becomes the meta, i think it’s gonna get old real quick Guard cancel and movement feels bad enough as is and if you just lose from block like this… Yikes
Honestly, as a Striker who plays against a friend's Launcher regularly, you just have to mix in your 5A strings and reversal more. Sure Striker has a projectile invulnerable special move, several characters do, but it's like rolling or countering. It has to be timed perfectly. Launcher's 5A hits all count as melee rather than projectiles for some reason. My friend's gotten pretty good at staggering his zoning and slipping those in when I play Striker. I hate him for it but it's something you could try.
@@dearikj90 I see what u mean but still reversals are kinda risky especially when everyone safe jumps on me, I do everything u mentioned. But still doesn’t really change the fact that it’s hard to zone her bcz she has too much way to approach between her dive kick, that move that goes through projectiles, her speed and buttons as well. Up close I die bcz guard break and can’t really contest if she is near cauz her buttons are too fast. Anyway launcher has too many bad matchups in this game so
This is too cheap i don't mind her pulling off something like that in 200 mana but 140...i hope they lower her guard break damage so it can be done only in 200 mana
This combo is legit, but I don't think this combo can work as often as you think. That 2b (slide kick) has to connect at an extremely close range or other buttons in the combo will whiff. And in other combos neutral mp to down mp don't always connect due to push back. The only reason I mention this is because when I see people lose to striker is not bc of this block string, is just bc people aren't down mp'ing enough, or try to out speed her jabs and get countered. Conversion is a different story though.
There's a combo that even kill 1000hp characters. If you use 214MS immediately after the guard break, it does an insane amount of damage early and pushes the combo to over 1000. Literally no one is safe if Striker can get this string off.
Link?
@@NRobbi42 same thoughts(also Go Kings)
@@STB002 Coming for that play-in spot
@@NRobbi42 In case you're still wondering, about this, ending GB string on 4C 2C 6C 2B 5D (GB!), I do 214D 6C 2C j.BC 2B 4C 6C 5CC j.CD 5D 236D 214D AW for [1038] atm
You can do it at 100 mana if you use command inputs it leaves you exhausted but it doesn’t matter because you’ll get meter back after the break and you can do the 2 dive kick loop and end in one inch punch and do a ton of damage
I had my suspicions she would be top tier. Now I am looking at enchantress like, come on do something!
Ultimately I think what they want us to do with striker is have trouble getting in to do the pressure but once we get in essentially we win. So I think to me it sounds kind of fair considering most of the enemies have like full screen attacks and all we got is up close and personal
This might just be fair, considering the general scheme of the game. Characters like her and Grappler have to struggle constantly in neutral against the half and full screen moves of other characters, and that problem is only amplified when the opponent has their MP gauge cranked too. That effects her approach, the moves that she's able to engage with and initiate, the defense that she has to consider, etc.
For context: I primarily play Crusader and Kunoichi, so I know a bit about giving people a hard time in neutral.
Honestly i don't think having a ToD in a single fighter game is okay in any capacity no matter how hard it is to get in, i know that projectiles on this game are more annoying than other fighting games but simply dying because you made one mistake no matter how well you played the match is something marvel vs capcom 3 style, but that game at least is 3x3.
@@ally3417 But that's the thing - you wouldn't have to make just one mistake to get caught in this situation. Striker would have to make one or two mistakes to even get the 140MP that she needs to do this, and the opponent would have to make multiple mistakes in neutral or pressure to even give her the opportunity. It might be cheesey, but it's not touch and go, so you aren't gonna die from this out the gate.
@@Gamma0_0 I saw more than one video of her on awakening just deleting the other fighter, obviously it was betwen the range described on the video but the point still stands.
Struggle in neutral? Lmao striker literally ignores almost half the neutral in the game
I don't think she is close to top 5 character, I legit think she is top 3. This setup I also don't think is cheap. I think you should be punished for bad meter management (you don't get a defensive option). She lacks the range so you make that up with rebeat and bonkers pressure so making that one of her win cons I like
woo un gran saludo desde Chile soy un gran seguidor tu yo me encanta como juega a striker sigue asi
Any tips on approaching characters like Launcher and Troubleshooter than lock you all time going super aggresive?
When I got the shot to stop them with DP they end up just a step away from me, so only the 1st two hits of the DP happens that knock them out for a sedond while I''m stuck in the air forever, allowing them to go in again as i'm vulnerable AF. Doing tornado kick and divekick after (If I have the meter for it) 90% of the time ends up in me being hit again into another combo.
So just 2-3 full combo locking me in place, if not they can pressure from range like nothing. I said those 2 as examples, but practically every single armed character, or non-armed character with a projectile can do that to me, in that scenario
7:39
Am having trouble landing this sequence on berserker the last hit always whiffs the slide in to shadow kicks on the corner i think berserker hurtbox must be weird or something
Rooflemonger uploaded a 100MP version of the guard break combo
Rooflemooger has video of this but with only 100 mana.
Pro tip, if you don't have the meter to guard cancel the blockstring, stop blocking and eat the hit. Worse case scenario you get comboed without the white life buildup, best case scenario the striker is shock and fails to convert
That's a really bad idea. Your guard meter stays low so she can just do it again after they knock you down from the combo.
It's a legit strategy. Often times people get comfortable doing blockstrings by memory. If they connect when they aren't expecting it they will often either drop the combo or end it early in a scramble to keep it from dropping.
@@metallovaboo I don't mean at the end, if you get put in the blockstring with no meter, immediately take the hit, you won't lose much guard gauge if you do it early and you'll give your meter time to regen
Problem is that if you eat the hit, you just end up in another situation where you gotta block again
@@RMIVfitness Yes, but you get a chance to regain some meter.
im not sure about corner to corner but she does have 100 meter guard breaks against medium to low guard HP characters
I recently played online for the first time. She's the only character I dread going up against so far.
Alright so my hunch was right about this character and I'm going to make her a secondary to my Dragon Knight. There are a couple of characters that I believe are insanely strong the more developed a player/the game becomes and Striker is easily one of them. This character gets in and you're dead. Almost everything she has in her kit is safe and this just makes it worse. LOL She's gonna be OD on one touch alone. Now I need to learn this guard break setup because a number of folks are either going to burn 100MP to get me off of them or eat a guard broken combo. That's the next phase after this.
You can 100% do that with 100 Mana. I labbed at least 3 different ways to do it.
One thing that people don't realize is that they can just get hit so they will take less damage instead of being guard broken. Just stop blocking and you have a better chance of surviving
I do feel that the mana cost for guard cancel should 50 mana.
I think that would help with defense balance, as well as add invincibility so it still executes, so that the back and forth in matches is not entirely one sided.
i agree, getting stuck in the corner is gg. there needs to be more back and forth. In smash its rapid fire back and forth, in most fighting games is take your turn and watch this long combo.
I can’t get this to work I delay the 2ms and she still wiffs
Happened to me in ranked. No counterplay to this whatsoever
What’s the combo string buttons?
1:27 damn how fucking + is close to the ground 5MS
Huh....it's like there's depth to this "kusoge"
I mean she is definitly top tier when we talk about pressure, but thats only as long she can get in, if the the other player just zone you out like swiftmaster can then striker will have a really hard time.
I peep the Jin skin from YYH but truly you are a man of culture for getting that angel skin on Striker.
I see a lot of people it the comments saying it's fair because u can guard cancel. But for anyone who's put in time with the game know that she then gets to just dive kick back in while you have no mana haha. And this applies very hard to Ghostblade who has no dp
I see you. I thank you.
Guard brake is posible with 100 mana...
Something's off with this string though...Or im going crazy... RIght at the beggining the 5CC won't connect if you don't delay a bit the 5B after the 2B or else it whiffs as there's a little pushback, therefore the enemy can DP. I've been trying everything, no delay, mashing C after 5B or delaying other buttons. Can someone confirm this? Im going crazy by watching SonicSol's inputs i see no delay yet he has no problems connecting it lol... Tried with both SM and Hitman same results
That’s because you don’t do 5CC at the beginning, you do 6C. The route goes:
2B 5B 6C 6MS 5MS 2MS jMS 5A 5B 5CC 6C 2C 2B 5MS 6MS.
2B 5B 5CC never appears in the video.
@@Sakaki98 Yes it does lol... Check 6:49 Sonicsol literally says it and you can see his inputs... So yeah i dont know what's happening and how he can do it no problem. Yo Sonic would appreciate some input on this pls. Do you slighty delay the 5B before the 5CC? @SonicSol
@@Maganagee The 2B either needs to be done deeper and/or you need dash momentum. Also, if you slightly delay 5B as you mentioned, you can still get a little bit closer without leaving a DP gap if you time it right.
I actually have a video to reliably guard break someone with 100 mp. Great video by the way
When I’m fighting characters like Launcher n Trouble Shooter who just get the entire screen to fuck with you, this is absolutely completely fair. Y’all better start managing that meter cus I’m coming for ya defense
Besides the great video and getting more context on striker combo gotta say the mods for striker go hard . Like been a week and mods are flooding in plus all of pretty top quality to boot.
This is good for her but people who think this is the end all don't for get her range is short so make sure you can get in to do this so as you work on this find ways to get in so you can do this or get the hit. Even tho you can do this at 100mp don't go for the 140 or more to have Mp for something if it goes south or you mess up good luck thank you Sonic for the video
The fact that theres multiple guard breaker combos for her without even converting is nuts 😳 I wanted to learn other characters but not anymore I gotta keep up this grind with my main striker 😮💨🍆💦💦
I think this fair considering the BS swift master and berserker and hitman are on this is fine
Thanks for the block string and I think it’s fair because we have characters that can zone all day😂
Wish they had people like you but other players like who dropping tutorials like this but on ghost blade
One thing thats underrated in guard pressure is having attacks that provide alot of forward momentum. Being able to stay in your oppenent's face like how Striker can is more of a challenge for other characters
the angel mod lol
I like how everyone is like "someone in this game is broken...but we just need to find them!"
Spoiler, everyone in this game is broken in some way so it's fine. If every character has ridiculous tools then no one is overpowered. I can see Striker getting some scaling nerfs in future, though. She can keep her block pressure but I expect they'll up the scaling on some of her specials to tone down the ToDs.
And people are crying about hitman...
This the most ToD ToD I’ve ever seen
I had a feeling she had access to something like this, just didn't think you'd find it this quickly
Posted a vid on my channel. Having trouble doing the dp part from mp kicks. Can someone watch and tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Non awakened striker doing what awakened vanguard does, without conversion :)
Whatever grappler and striker can get, they need it. We stuck in mid range hell before we can have fun. Also thanks for the part where you split up the guard break string process in chunks. A lot of videos I see about the guard break string performs the string then shows all the inputs so the screen looks like a mess. Hopefully we can get combo recipes for training mode.
I'd say fair, she has to get in first and if a player is conscious of it, they will save meter for guard counter. It also is what makes striker, striker. her kit is built for just this.
The opponent can also wait for an opportunity to take the hit. Typically anyone who is going for something like guard break only care about the damage afterwards, so you dropping your guard actually messes up that plan, and because dnf is particular punishes anyone for so much as dropping a combo, fishing for guard break doesn't seem like a viable strategy.
i feel like this is fair only cuz most characters have range against her someone who knows the MU well i feel like will always make striker struggle getting in, depends on ur characters kit obviously but certain matchups feel like striker cannot do shit.
Good tech!
I think it’s fair that she has this at least because she’s the only character that has to work as hard as she does in neutral. She doesn’t have any moves that really cover the screen like any other characters so it’s harder to navigate around the screen than them. At least when she gets in she at least has this. So yea I think it’s fair but I won’t be surprised if it gets patched out
Angels costume
Needs to be adjusted but so does many other the other bs in the game. Fun tho.
Idk man, I came to the video for your content (and ofc the classic skin because its too good not to get). SSol is just too good at breaking things down for people who get lost in the info like me.
You can perform the guard break string with the starting 100 mana actually.
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You learned it. This is so gross
Been using Launcher i feel she isn't a true zoner but a mid range zoner and space controller as her damage is quite low she might need buffs.
The character need so many nerfs. which means the game is fucked. they gonna slightly nerf her every season and in 2 years shes balanced.
This caracter needs nerfing to the ground simple as so un fun to play against its unreal
Every characters in this game is unfun to play against.
@@Underground3 starting to feel like that myself sometimes not been playing as long or as much past 2 days i dont think all but people seem to find the most effective things and spam it over and over and over and i think the offence options vastly out way the defernsive and myself as a reactive player its not fun i primarly pplay zoners in streetfighter and the reason street fighter 5 was not as fun or good as past games was this same reason its not as bad but its there least someone else is feeling this lol pray for patches or i dont know now tbh will see how the game matures
@@TheDarkFoxOfficial You wanna face SF3 Matoko? Striker. You wanna face Umvc3 Vergil? Swift Master. DNF Duel is a collage of every BS broken character you ever face in previous fighting games, in one game. But somehow you go back on it and play it again because that the magic of kusoge games. Beyond broken, still fun as hell, and really popular. As one guy put it "better for a game to failed because it different and weird. Then it to failed because it bored". So if they gonna stick to their guns towards this direction. I rather them focus on the technical issues and content.
Waifu tier + Top tier 👌 I'm not complaining
If guard break becomes the meta, i think it’s gonna get old real quick
Guard cancel and movement feels bad enough as is and if you just lose from block like this…
Yikes
This MAD CHEAP lmao. As a launcher main, when I see striker I don’t play the game. I just die 😭. Can’t even keep her away
Honestly, as a Striker who plays against a friend's Launcher regularly, you just have to mix in your 5A strings and reversal more. Sure Striker has a projectile invulnerable special move, several characters do, but it's like rolling or countering. It has to be timed perfectly. Launcher's 5A hits all count as melee rather than projectiles for some reason. My friend's gotten pretty good at staggering his zoning and slipping those in when I play Striker. I hate him for it but it's something you could try.
@@dearikj90 I see what u mean but still reversals are kinda risky especially when everyone safe jumps on me, I do everything u mentioned. But still doesn’t really change the fact that it’s hard to zone her bcz she has too much way to approach between her dive kick, that move that goes through projectiles, her speed and buttons as well. Up close I die bcz guard break and can’t really contest if she is near cauz her buttons are too fast. Anyway launcher has too many bad matchups in this game so
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The mod on Striker is trash. Why do y'all do that?! SMH.
I just can’t see how y’all get excited about this kids game smh ,this shit won’t be relevant in the next 4 months .
This is too cheap i don't mind her pulling off something like that in 200 mana but 140...i hope they lower her guard break damage so it can be done only in 200 mana
I recently played online for the first time. She's the only character I dread going up against so far.