The Theraband Flexbar is hands down the best way to go for kiter's elbow. Healed mine permanently in only a couple weeks and Ive loaned it to 50+ kiters in the past 10 years and all had same results.
Two of us working at a kiteschool suffer from this. 3 months with no wind meant a lot of computer work on top of kiteboarding muscles when wind came back triggering the elbow. Not a good combination. Computer is bad for the elbow too ! Has been 6 months and still pain at the computer after 10 minutes. Your treatment is spot on. Aligned with our fysio. Hope it gets better soon. Great video. Thanks
Great video. Nicely done. I’ve found that I was wrenching on the bar with one hand and weird angles sometimes to steer the kite especially with one handed jumps. That made it much worse. I’ve focused more on pulling lightly and putting that second hand on to help steer if needed. That’s helped me a lot.
Had kiter's elbow for a few years now. Thanks for the tips - I was doing some of the exercises that you've mentioned, also switching to a low bar pressure kite helped quite a bit too
I used to get this a lot. Everything u said great to treat it, but the one thing that prevents this is working out your arms. Often in kiting you develop asymmetric arm muscles and if you go and lift weights you can rebuild the balance. This goes for knees and shoulders too. Cheers
Great article thanks.My kiters elbow returned every time I had a layoff of of 1-3 months. I tried everything in the video and more. The fix for me I believe was Collegen with the muscle stretching, ice and anti inflammatory tabs.. I am now 2 months free of the pain and have just spent 5 days kiting every day in Hau Hin Thailand wiyh bo pain in the elbow. I used a multi collegen 1,2,3,4&5.
Had been there, can be very painful. While kiting, it also helps to place your thumbs on top of the bar. Not 'clamping' the bar reduces strain in the forearm. In the gym, working the musculature if the forearm also worked for me. Good news is that it eventually goes away!
Thanks Kyle, I have some minor elbow pain after kiting today so I checked out your excellent video. Great advice and the exercises felt beneficial. I am not sure if it is coming from my Concept 2 rower or kiteboarding or both. In any case I will follow your advice and not do anything to make it worse or chronic. At 58 and after many sports I know sometimes it is smart to ease back - sometimes easier said than done :)
I have had a similar problem, but in my biceps and triceps muscles and a bit into the deltoid muscle. I am 73 and have been kiting for 16 years. I know this problem is related to riding one handed toeside and has been with me to a small degree for years. Currently it is worse than ever before. I took a month off and when I started kiting again, it came back pretty quickly. I have been riding two handed 99% of the time now, but one day I got stupid and rode quite a bit one handed, and I am paying the price. Of course age has something to do with it, but this issue can can be resolved I believe. I am in Thailand for the Winter and would love some good PT exercises, or perhaps a recommended treatment I could get done by my favorite physical therapist here.
Just came across this issue for the first time last week. Been popping Advil and applying ice. Thanks for the info -will use those stretches and air cast. Subscribed👍
i've had medial epicondylitis (golfers elbow) for 8 months now which absolutely suuuuucks! Can't unhook or throw loops. can barely kite. Definitely can't wakeboard ( i think wakeboarding actually did the real damage). At its worst (after a 7 day kite holiday to sri lanka) i couldn't even open a bottle of water :-( Tried everything but the ONLY thing that's helped is Eccentric Dumbbell exercises. Now it's finally getting better... slooooowly :-) Wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy.
I'm 22 and sometimes this occur to me. Usually after long 3h+ session in 13-19 C degree water. Thanks for this video I didn't realise it's a common issue.
Thanks for the information. My left elbow is trashed. Love my Cabrinha Switchblades but i think the bar pressure is too much. I'm going to use your rehab exercises but i think i need to move to some different kites-at least a new 11-12m (most used) Anyone have suggestions on lighter bar pressure good allaround kites? I've read North Reach and Naish Pivot are lower bp? Thanks
Great video. Very helpful. I'm curious. The majority of my pain seems to be ABOVE the elbow.... more on the triceps side of the elbow vs forearm. It still feels like tennis elbow (which I've had before). So I'm curious if you think these same exercises are good for that location of pain? Thanks for everything!
Hmm.. I'm 25 years old, and since some time I've experienced this, not that badly luckily, but still.. I had never given it any thought, I expected it to just go away, unfortunately not I see.. In my case it's probably due to lot's of unhooking, and having Best GP kites that require a lot of steering effort to get them going. Well, thanks for this very informative video!!
Dealt with kiteboarding induced lateral epicondylitis a few years ago. This time it's back only medially.(golfer's elbow). I'm exclusively a freestyle foiler riding a very low bar pressure BRM Cloud kites. Lots of one handed kite manipulation for roll tacs and gybes etc.. Due to a ton of crashing learning these moves, it necessitates frequent, one handed bringing the foiling to surface for water starts. I suspect this is what's now resulted in the medial inflammation. It's a real bitch to be sure. Isometric adduction stress send me through the roof. Should have got on the ice treatment much earlier. Once this crap turns chronic it's a real journey to get it under control. Now with my budding wing foiling career that lifting of the foil to the surface won't be a factor. Hopefully that give me a chance to heal. If you could recommend some medial epicondylitis interventions that would be hugely appreciated. Thanks for the excellent video here. Fair winds!
Hey Gringo. The exercises would be the same for medial except for the stretching which would lengthen the muscles across the wrist in the opposite direction and the horizontal deflection stretch in the opposite direction. Hope you heal up and enjoy your winging adventure 👍
Informative video. Could you do some similar edits for lower back, knees, and shoulders? I'm 57 and feel like I'm put together with scotch tape and Ibuprofen.
What I know is pain in the whole arm, cause of heavy one hand loops and old school riding. Since 18 years of kiting in the age of 40 I really dont know a solution. 2nd problem I could solve is back pain, mainly caused of to much belly muscles, disbalance. All kiters should exercise back muscles.
I'm 21 and I kinda have the same problem. I try to stay fit in between my kitesessions (mostly a few days of wind, and after that 2-3 weeks no wind), but when I haven't gone to the gym in these 3 weeks without kiting and do a couple of kiteloops, this insane pain comes up in my elbow and my session is ruined. My question is: Could the excercises you explained 'replace' the gym to keep your arms strong/trained, and therefore prevent kiter's arm, or is it only to be used as a treatment against the pain? Thanks! Johan
No. this episode really is dealing with the acute and subacute stages and maintenance, not much with the long term strengthening and proper mm. length issues.
Johan Poort warming up is always a good idea, we are dealing with tendinitis here and trying to rest, reduce irritant, and manage recovery would take precedent.
Good content, strange I get golfers elbow on the inside not the outside, I don't blame kiting. I blame I life time of climbing 🧗♂️ trees for a living. I'm late 30s and love big air, I feel like I'm falling to bits. Ha ho I at least I had my fun time.... 😂
Hi ok kiteboarder :) I feel weak in my hand and wrist when riding toeside in my left arm when holding hand up on the bar. Its like I need to take it down to rest, to shake it of. The uncomfrtable feeling in the wrist hand disappears. Is this beginning of kiters elbow? Or just wrist problem? Do you have any excercises for that? Thanks for great videos
The Theraband Flexbar is hands down the best way to go for kiter's elbow. Healed mine permanently in only a couple weeks and Ive loaned it to 50+ kiters in the past 10 years and all had same results.
Great vid- legit. I've been kiting 20yrs & think this is probably one of the most informative preventative videos I've ever seen- great job.
Hey there, that was great. Recently sold a kite whose bar pressure was ridiculous. Selling the kite and working on my arms made a huge difference.
I have had it for 4 months from Sept to Jan and then again even stronger for the past month.. Thanks for the video and the tips!
Now I would also highly recommend dry needling for tx.
Ok great! I’ll talk to my PT about it.
Two of us working at a kiteschool suffer from this. 3 months with no wind meant a lot of computer work on top of kiteboarding muscles when wind came back triggering the elbow. Not a good combination. Computer is bad for the elbow too ! Has been 6 months and still pain at the computer after 10 minutes.
Your treatment is spot on. Aligned with our fysio. Hope it gets better soon. Great video. Thanks
Been watching your vids for years. Just subscribed after this one!
Great video. Nicely done. I’ve found that I was wrenching on the bar with one hand and weird angles sometimes to steer the kite especially with one handed jumps. That made it much worse. I’ve focused more on pulling lightly and putting that second hand on to help steer if needed. That’s helped me a lot.
Yea, go to south Padre and watch the starship while you kite.
62 yrs old here and just starting! Thanks for the video
Had kiter's elbow for a few years now. Thanks for the tips - I was doing some of the exercises that you've mentioned, also switching to a low bar pressure kite helped quite a bit too
Our Kite Life Maybe some knee rehab next ?😉
I used to get this a lot. Everything u said great to treat it, but the one thing that prevents this is working out your arms. Often in kiting you develop asymmetric arm muscles and if you go and lift weights you can rebuild the balance. This goes for knees and shoulders too. Cheers
Excellent advice, and thank you for the clear demo's of all the stretches, much appreciated
Thx for the kind words.
Great article thanks.My kiters elbow returned every time I had a layoff of of 1-3 months. I tried everything in the video and more. The fix for me I believe was Collegen with the muscle stretching, ice and anti inflammatory tabs.. I am now 2 months free of the pain and have just spent 5 days kiting every day in Hau Hin Thailand wiyh bo pain in the elbow. I used a multi collegen 1,2,3,4&5.
Fantastic Vlog! I've been dealing with this for some years now, Thanks a million... LOOOOOVED the aging photoshop frame HAHA! great stuff dude!
Thanks Pedro.
Great video and great news for me as i was experiencing this weird pain in my elbow after kiting. Thank's a lot for tips !!!
Thanks, I wasn't sure if this was as widespread in kiting as I had suspected.
Appreciate the comment.
@@TheOKKiteboarder 58 and lots of us have to deal with this
Just what i needed, i kite recently 40 hours a month, started getting pain in my right elbow, hope it helps, I'm not going to give up kiting
Thanks Daniel!
Had been there, can be very painful. While kiting, it also helps to place your thumbs on top of the bar. Not 'clamping' the bar reduces strain in the forearm. In the gym, working the musculature if the forearm also worked for me. Good news is that it eventually goes away!
Thanks Kyle, I have some minor elbow pain after kiting today so I checked out your excellent video. Great advice and the exercises felt beneficial. I am not sure if it is coming from my Concept 2 rower or kiteboarding or both. In any case I will follow your advice and not do anything to make it worse or chronic. At 58 and after many sports I know sometimes it is smart to ease back - sometimes easier said than done :)
I have had a similar problem, but in my biceps and triceps muscles and a bit into the deltoid muscle. I am 73 and have been kiting for 16 years. I know this problem is related to riding one handed toeside and has been with me to a small degree for years. Currently it is worse than ever before. I took a month off and when I started kiting again, it came back pretty quickly. I have been riding two handed 99% of the time now, but one day I got stupid and rode quite a bit one handed, and I am paying the price. Of course age has something to do with it, but this issue can can be resolved I believe. I am in Thailand for the Winter and would love some good PT exercises, or perhaps a recommended treatment I could get done by my favorite physical therapist here.
Now also known as Wingfoiler's Elbow :) Thanks for the tips!
Just came across this issue for the first time last week. Been popping Advil and applying ice. Thanks for the info -will use those stretches and air cast.
Subscribed👍
Thank you!!
Thanks for this video, very informative 🙂
i've had medial epicondylitis (golfers elbow) for 8 months now which absolutely suuuuucks! Can't unhook or throw loops. can barely kite. Definitely can't wakeboard ( i think wakeboarding actually did the real damage).
At its worst (after a 7 day kite holiday to sri lanka) i couldn't even open a bottle of water :-(
Tried everything but the ONLY thing that's helped is Eccentric Dumbbell exercises. Now it's finally getting better... slooooowly :-)
Wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy.
Great video man! I recently had 10 days in Dakhla and was really suffering towards the end. Will remember these tips for my next trip
Good to hear, but suffering in Dakhla.....? I'm not sure ;)
I'm 22 and sometimes this occur to me. Usually after long 3h+ session in 13-19 C degree water. Thanks for this video I didn't realise it's a common issue.
Glad it helped!
had this issue also, found that by keeping elbow down or close to waist I alleviated that stress.
I have this issue on every single kite trip, after 4-5 days on the water. It sucks!
Thanks for the information. My left elbow is trashed. Love my Cabrinha Switchblades but i think the bar pressure is too much. I'm going to use your rehab exercises but i think i need to move to some different kites-at least a new 11-12m (most used) Anyone have suggestions on lighter bar pressure good allaround kites? I've read North Reach and Naish Pivot are lower bp? Thanks
I think those are good recommendations.
Great video. Very helpful. I'm curious. The majority of my pain seems to be ABOVE the elbow.... more on the triceps side of the elbow vs forearm. It still feels like tennis elbow (which I've had before). So I'm curious if you think these same exercises are good for that location of pain? Thanks for everything!
Those longer extensor muscles cross the elbow joint. Good chance these will help.
Yes I know that feeling! Thankyou for the tips ( age 52 )
great video man
Thanks!
Hmm.. I'm 25 years old, and since some time I've experienced this, not that badly luckily, but still.. I had never given it any thought, I expected it to just go away, unfortunately not I see.. In my case it's probably due to lot's of unhooking, and having Best GP kites that require a lot of steering effort to get them going. Well, thanks for this very informative video!!
Thx. Bastiaan. Most 25 year olds, won't admit that they're not invincible! Thx. for the humility and good luck.
Dealt with kiteboarding induced lateral epicondylitis a few years ago. This time it's back only medially.(golfer's elbow). I'm exclusively a freestyle foiler riding a very low bar pressure BRM Cloud kites. Lots of one handed kite manipulation for roll tacs and gybes etc.. Due to a ton of crashing learning these moves, it necessitates frequent, one handed bringing the foiling to surface for water starts. I suspect this is what's now resulted in the medial inflammation. It's a real bitch to be sure. Isometric adduction stress send me through the roof. Should have got on the ice treatment much earlier. Once this crap turns chronic it's a real journey to get it under control. Now with my budding wing foiling career that lifting of the foil to the surface won't be a factor. Hopefully that give me a chance to heal. If you could recommend some medial epicondylitis interventions that would be hugely appreciated. Thanks for the excellent video here. Fair winds!
Hey Gringo. The exercises would be the same for medial except for the stretching which would lengthen the muscles across the wrist in the opposite direction and the horizontal deflection stretch in the opposite direction. Hope you heal up and enjoy your winging adventure 👍
Informative video. Could you do some similar edits for lower back, knees, and shoulders? I'm 57 and feel like I'm put together with scotch tape and Ibuprofen.
Maybe some more in the future. Thanks.
Great Video 👍🏿 Aitutaki ❤️
What I know is pain in the whole arm, cause of heavy one hand loops and old school riding. Since 18 years of kiting in the age of 40 I really dont know a solution. 2nd problem I could solve is back pain, mainly caused of to much belly muscles, disbalance. All kiters should exercise back muscles.
Good idea, maybe some core training for the kiter in the future.
Im only 19 years old and i am getting this pain. And i am not even ´doing anything crazy
I'm 21 and I kinda have the same problem. I try to stay fit in between my kitesessions (mostly a few days of wind, and after that 2-3 weeks no wind), but when I haven't gone to the gym in these 3 weeks without kiting and do a couple of kiteloops, this insane pain comes up in my elbow and my session is ruined. My question is: Could the excercises you explained 'replace' the gym to keep your arms strong/trained, and therefore prevent kiter's arm, or is it only to be used as a treatment against the pain? Thanks! Johan
No. this episode really is dealing with the acute and subacute stages and maintenance, not much with the long term strengthening and proper mm. length issues.
@@TheOKKiteboarder alright, thanks! does a proper warming-up help to reduce the chances?
Johan Poort warming up is always a good idea, we are dealing with tendinitis here and trying to rest, reduce irritant, and manage recovery would take precedent.
Good content, strange I get golfers elbow on the inside not the outside, I don't blame kiting. I blame I life time of climbing 🧗♂️ trees for a living. I'm late 30s and love big air, I feel like I'm falling to bits. Ha ho I at least I had my fun time.... 😂
Hi ok kiteboarder :) I feel weak in my hand and wrist when riding toeside in my left arm when holding hand up on the bar. Its like I need to take it down to rest, to shake it of. The uncomfrtable feeling in the wrist hand disappears. Is this beginning of kiters elbow? Or just wrist problem? Do you have any excercises for that? Thanks for great videos
This is not kiter’s elbow, but this could be many other things causing the symptoms you presented. You may want to check it out with someone.
Great Video 👍🏿 Aitutaki ❤️
THANKS!