🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:01 *🌐 Paul entered the men's rights space recently; he encourages corrections if he misstates or attributes quotes incorrectly.* 01:10 *📚 The discussion revolves around the impact of the movie "Barbie" and Paul's quote: "Great minds discuss gynocentrism, average minds discuss feminism, and small minds discuss women."* 01:38 *📅 Paul's red pill moment was in 1993 when Warren Farrell released his book; he noticed a paradigm shift in perception.* 03:39 *🌏 Paul's understanding of India changed after meeting Anil Kumar in 2014; he acknowledges the similarities in issues related to gynocentrism between East and West.* 05:39 *🌍 Paul appreciates the Indian men's rights movement for focusing on addressing men's needs directly, providing a sense of community and support.* 08:45 *🎯 The interview aims to educate people in India about men's rights terminology, debunk feminist narratives, and provide a science-based framework applicable across cultural backgrounds.* 11:30 *🔄 Many in India associate the men's rights movement with the red pill space, particularly citing Paul Elam and Sandman as prominent figures.* 13:49 *🚫 Paul advises against getting into battles over defining the manosphere; focus on speaking the truth and addressing core issues like gynocentrism and romantic chivalry.* 16:00 *🤝 Paul rejects the idea that Sandman's ideas were rejected by the men's rights movement, emphasizing the acceptance of various ideas on an individual level.* 18:17 *🤔 Paul reflects positively on Roosh V and other figures, acknowledging their role in opening discussions and reimagining male identity, even if he disagrees with some aspects.* 21:28 *👩💼 Paul addresses criticisms about the men's rights movement having female faces, emphasizing the importance of women like Karen Straughan being part of the movement for a broader perspective.* 21:55 *🚨 Paul addresses concerns about women in the men's rights movement, emphasizing the importance of ideas over gender.* 23:57 *🌐 In the arena of ideas, Paul supports women's participation but stresses the need for male-only spaces, citing XY crew's approach.* 26:15 *🇮🇳 Paul recounts a conflict with an Indian woman in the men's rights movement, highlighting tensions and disagreements.* 28:22 *⚖️ If Paul could change a law, he would end the state's involvement in marriage, advocating for a separation between marriage and state authority.* 29:35 *👨👦 Paul supports default father custody in cases of separation, emphasizing the need for fair treatment of fathers.* 30:04 *🗳️ Paul discusses the 19th Amendment, expressing mixed feelings but acknowledging the disastrous consequences of women in office.* 31:53 *🧠 Paul highlights the vulnerability of men when infatuated, suggesting the importance of educating young men on relationships.* 36:29 *⚠️ Paul advises against marriage due to its risks, emphasizing that the best way to avoid divorce is not getting married.* 39:50 *🤔 Paul criticizes men in India for not researching marriage laws and for quickly entering another marriage after a divorce, suggesting the need for awareness and caution.* 43:44 *🤷♂️ Initial skepticism towards women in the men's rights space, highlighting the need to evaluate the value of their work.* 44:10 *📚 Some acknowledgment of the value in works critical of feminism, such as Christina Hoff Sommers' books.* 45:06 *🔄 Observation of individuals turning against the men's movement when topics like gynocentrism are discussed, citing examples like Sydney Watson and Lauren Southern.* 46:00 *💪 Governments' fear of strong men and the intentional disempowerment of men in families, linking it to historical movements and organizations.* 47:38 *🌐 Reflection on the possibility that men can lead simpler lives (minimalism) compared to women and how government capitalizes on women's consumer behavior.* 50:08 *💸 Suggestion to shift focus from the wage gap to the consumer gap, emphasizing women's significant role in discretionary spending.* 51:14 *🤔 Criticism of conservative figures like Jordan Peterson, Matt Walsh, and Ben Shapiro for advocating marriage without addressing legal injustices in family courts.* 53:27 *🔍 Recognition of efforts to engage Jordan Peterson in discussions on men's issues, highlighting their reluctance and potential financial barriers.* 55:20 *⚖️ Evaluation of the court system, suggesting the need for transparency (cameras in family courts) and educating judges on constitutional principles.* 57:53 *🔄 Speculation on the potential collapse of the current system, with declining sperm counts and testosterone levels contributing to societal challenges.* 59:02 *🌐 Encouragement for a global approach like the Indian model, emphasizing the need for more initiatives reaching and helping men.* 01:03:31 *🍼 Regret over not addressing circumcision earlier and recognizing it as a crucial issue affecting men from birth.* Made with HARPA AI
Hi Paul, An AVFM contributor here over a number of years. You remain my inspiration. No cause is more thankless and that is why your courage and commitment is so moving. You do what you do because you have a huge heart. Thanks dear man.
The host makes a great point about Mrs. Doubtfire, and how the movie changes as you are red pilled. I recently saw it again after many years, and I see exactly what the host means. Robin Williams played a dad who wanted to be there, he wanted to do everything for his kids. And Sally Field simply said no because SHE was unhappy. The kids didn't want him to leave either. But she kicked him out, left him with nothing, then proceeds to berate him because he's not providing enough?!?!?
Don't forget, the Robin Williams character was a grown up child at first. He arranged for barn animals to be in the house. He could not keep a job. Responsibility was anathema to him. It was only upon losing his children that he was forced to grow up to be a responsible guy- dressed as an old lady. If he was not responsible, his ex-wife would rightly have fired him. At the end, when he was exposed, he finally grew up. His ex-wife saw that, and allowed him to be with his children, unsupervised. It could be regarded as a coming of age movie. Daniel Hillard (Robin Williams) grows up.
Thank you so much, Paul. I came across your channel a couple of years ago, after swallowing the bitter pill of a divorce and custody battle under modern western family law. Your videos provided me with much of the intellectual framework to be able to think of me and my life beyond the mental fences of the sacrificial mindset that I was raised into. I'm still walking my way through all of the deception, anger and depression related to the misconceptions that I had about intra- and intersexual dynamics of my beloved species, but it's getting easier with time passing. Thank you so much for all the work you do. 🙏
36:22 Marriage causes divorce. I got absolutely destroyed in my UK divorce. Lost 70% of my assets, including my house, despite my wife earning more and us only having 1 kid. The UK divorce judges are way too biased and unpredictable, and the cost of divorce legal fees makes justice impossible.
I prefer Jerry Lewis' explanation: "there are many causes for a divorce - main reason is and will always be: the marriage" btw sorry for your loss. UK judges in general seem ...strange... to the civilised world recently...
I’m sorry you went through that. It’s same in USA. I have guys going through divorced here and they say “I don’t want to lose half” I always says it’s not half it’s 70-75% percent
@@Mac-sb6dr Exactly. Even in America, 50% and then add on alimony and legal fees, you are losing well over 50%. It is crazy no one is talking about this.
THANK YOU for this PHENOMENAL stream!!!! The wisdom you have shared needs to be spread GLOBALLY, and I am doing my miniscule part by sharing it with my siblings and friends and associates, and I sincerely PRAY that all viewrs of this stream will do the same. Peace and long life to all of you. Thank you again!
Excellent Interview I have followed Paul since the 90’s So glad to hear that you are taking up the cause against Circumcising our Sons along with all the other amazing work that you do
The nanny state has benefited nobody. Marriage should be a contract between two people with their own terms and dissolution terms. The problem is that the state should have no say on private contracts or property but it has no respect for any of those two issues, which arte the origin of all traditional legality.
Great to see you again, Paul. And props to Vasanth for making this a good discussion. We are seeing the fall of the West literally on a daily basis, and you highlighted some of the reasons here in the discussion - the feminisation of men, falling sperm count, the biased court system which destroys men in divorce, and men waking up to the perils of getting married and thus checking out of risky relationships. I have a formulated a model of why relationships are failing in the West. I wonder if you can give your views of this? Successful societies are founded on a well defined social dominance hierarchy. Traditionally this has been, rather faultily, but nonetheless successful, and in order: 1. god/religion, 2, government, 3. man, 4. woman, 5. child. Government relies on religion to be its social enforcer to keep society civil because it can't do it on its own and it can't trust people to be civil without intervention, which is not true but nevertheless what it believes. We know this because this is why governments support and fund churches of all religions, which is particularly noticeable right now in the UK as mosques are being funded straight out of the Budget. Now, marriage is a religious concept and is backed by law, and hence neatly ties and controls men and women's behaviour to the government. They enforce this further by offering tax breaks to married couples. And the stigma for ensuring the nuclear family is through marriage is by name-calling children born out of wedlock "illegitimate" or "b**tards". However, when marriages break down, men suffer the majority of the penalties. This thus hands over control of the relationship to the chief beneficiary - the woman. Thus in this case, the social dominance hierarchy is broken. Now, given that religion is failing, and is really a deception anyway and most people are waking up and becoming atheist in the West, and as you said, government don't like strong men who can make their own decisions independently, all that leaves in the dominance hierarchy is men over women. So when that is itself compromised, such as by laws, over which even strong men have to comply with, and by gynocenticism, and by a higher proportion of women getting degrees and having successful careers, there is an ever diminishing pool of competent men to maintain the hierarchy. But the final nail in the coffin is the social conditioning of men and women. Women are conditioned to set a standard for men to commit to a relationship, leading to marriage, this is an ultimatum. Men who comply are, by default, handing over the control of the relationship, which again inverts the hierarchy and can easily lead to destruction for the man. I remember Janice saying something along the lines of the woman will get the man to succumb to her will and she'll then grow to hate him for it and for being so weak, or words to that effect. So it really is incumbant on a good, strong-willed man to stand up to a woman and never get married. Commitment can be made in many ways besides marriage. If the woman loves the man enough, she'll stay regardless, as your very own relationship desmonstrates. Lastly, though, gynocentricism says that if a man does stand up to a woman, then he's a misogynist, and you have to withstand the social threat of cancellation as well. Once you know how it works, you then know how to win it. I find it funny how smug the Daily Wire people are when they are berating single people. Whilst they all happily married, they have no empathy for anyone else. I call this a "relationship empathy gap". It is particularly wide with people who are married and think they are beyond reproach. But as recent celebrities such as Stephen Crowder and Destiny have found out to their serious cost, they are not immune from the above social dominance hierarchy. It's hard to offer them any sympathy when they've spent years publically sh**ting on single people. Keep up the good work.
Glad you're both still in the fight. Alison Teman just relieved some kind of weird death threat. It was very upper crusty. Hope Pupper hasn't lost his appetite for cowards. Hope this was just ill-wind.
Well, apparently you (and myself too) are incorrect. Marriage rates have been falling for decades. Now marriage rates are under 1% .. and yet, imo, everything is still going downhill. imo the “decline” is accelerating.
@@captnhuffy Obviously there is far more to the problem than marriage rates. But attitudes are noticeably different these days than ten years ago. Back then, feminists flooded comment sections shaming anyone who wasn't in lock step with their cult. These days, it is somewhat common to see comment sections with antifeminist attitudes as well as a working vocabulary of narcissistic abuse terms. I believe the two are directly related to each other. If it seems like nothing changes, it's because the real changes take time.
@@danielkaiser8971 Yes and no. Feminism, in just years, destroyed what took centuries to build. Women built the society, and men built the Civilization. Feminism undermined the society, and men started walking away almost immediately… What I’m saying is that destruction happens fast and; high quality change takes honorable people a long long time to progress. Women have proven that they don’t deserve good men. Until women reverse the systemic damages they have done, men will not return, and YES, that will take a long long time. Until then, men will kick back and enjoy the decline. My next phase in life will be exploring the Caribbean islands and the women there too, of course. Because western women don’t deserve my consideration because of their past behavior. Tough shift.
Men have given away their Economic Liberty.. and women have sucked that Economic Liberty up with a fire-hose. Remember: without Economic Liberty there is no Liberty at all. p.s. thanks for highlighting that segment
So many great points in this video. It just seems like so much of our policy in the west is based on the idea that women feel that nature has been unfair to them, so society tries to correct that with social policy because men have a desire to want to run to the rescue for women. So many men can’t occupy a rational middle ground when it comes to women. Either they’re being oppressed or men are running to the rescue. As soon as women occupy a rational middle ground in the minds and imaginations of men, that’s when we’ll see some real progress.
12 years into a cr-**ppy divorce case and million other cases. My feelings about marriage are same as those of pauls. I would go on to say that men should stay away from women in any platonic relationship
@@aservantinbabylon It was really more or less seeing Ryan gosling as Ken. I really felt embarrassed for him, I mean how bad is your career tanking that you have to resort to this lol. How can anyone really ever take him serious ever again?
Hi Paul, regarding Peterson et al being sellouts: just curious: has any governmental organizations ever approached you with money to attempt to get you to sellout? that would be an interesting video topic.
@@Paul_Elam interesting. I wonder if Peterson was actively approached or he just decided to sellout purely based on his own financial calculus (the latter is worse in some ways as he decided to consciously do this and he didn't even "get a threatening phone call in the middle of the night", aka a silver or lead deal so to speak...)
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 He is really good with dismantling opponents in conversation, but guy is blue pilled as heaven. He married his current wife when she hit the wall (after she enjoyed all the cc). His daughter chased after Andrew Tate to Romania to supposedly talk about business (cc ride just like mommy). I really liked to listen to Jordan P. when I discovered his content. Guy was making a lot of interesting points from psychological/academical perspective. I was surprised when he called MGTOW pathetic weasels, because his early vids aligned with RP ”philosophy”. I even bought his book, but was disappointed, because everything what was in it I've seen before on YT. Anyway you can learn few things from him, but putting him on pedestal is a big mistake.
Australian Anti-Feminist RUclipsr Feminism Debunked has been under attack from the entire Australian Legacy Media. This is a huge story here in Australia. Please cover it.
In india, depending upon state you live, if you are a woman, you'll get- free transportation, free money, free housing scheme, free gold, free money and gold during wedding and child birth if child is female, free education, less fees in education and competitive exams, 33% reservation in education, employment and parliament. It can go up aswell. For eg in nursing women has 80% reservation, 56 gender biased laws exclusively for women, no punishment for fake cases, multiple schemes only for women, right to property from your parents, husband and in-laws, less interest rates for women taking loans, less registration fee for buying property or land, special programs to promote female entrepreneurs, special tax benefits for women. Tell me, in which part of the world women get all these things but still they play victim card. Edit- new scheme launched on women's day. 200,000 rs for every widow who wants to remarry.
It is literally impossible to be more Alpha than the culture, the society, or the Legal system. Or are you just saying that men should never get involved with any of these three systems?? Serious question.
I was one of the many that was being chewed up through divorce in the early 2000’s. There were NO support systems available for MEN. As Paul as stated even in the therapy spaces it was very gynocentric and covertly bordered on shame and blame. He is correct when stating the MGTOW space has many contributors and many points of view. I myself personally in my HEALING process have viewed many of these sites. Yes, at times it’s confrontational, but the bottom line is they are there, available to support MEN, many at the most vulnerable point in their lives. Sometimes just having someone there knowing what you’re going thru is all that you need to stop the spiral.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:01 *🌐 Paul entered the men's rights space recently; he encourages corrections if he misstates or attributes quotes incorrectly.*
01:10 *📚 The discussion revolves around the impact of the movie "Barbie" and Paul's quote: "Great minds discuss gynocentrism, average minds discuss feminism, and small minds discuss women."*
01:38 *📅 Paul's red pill moment was in 1993 when Warren Farrell released his book; he noticed a paradigm shift in perception.*
03:39 *🌏 Paul's understanding of India changed after meeting Anil Kumar in 2014; he acknowledges the similarities in issues related to gynocentrism between East and West.*
05:39 *🌍 Paul appreciates the Indian men's rights movement for focusing on addressing men's needs directly, providing a sense of community and support.*
08:45 *🎯 The interview aims to educate people in India about men's rights terminology, debunk feminist narratives, and provide a science-based framework applicable across cultural backgrounds.*
11:30 *🔄 Many in India associate the men's rights movement with the red pill space, particularly citing Paul Elam and Sandman as prominent figures.*
13:49 *🚫 Paul advises against getting into battles over defining the manosphere; focus on speaking the truth and addressing core issues like gynocentrism and romantic chivalry.*
16:00 *🤝 Paul rejects the idea that Sandman's ideas were rejected by the men's rights movement, emphasizing the acceptance of various ideas on an individual level.*
18:17 *🤔 Paul reflects positively on Roosh V and other figures, acknowledging their role in opening discussions and reimagining male identity, even if he disagrees with some aspects.*
21:28 *👩💼 Paul addresses criticisms about the men's rights movement having female faces, emphasizing the importance of women like Karen Straughan being part of the movement for a broader perspective.*
21:55 *🚨 Paul addresses concerns about women in the men's rights movement, emphasizing the importance of ideas over gender.*
23:57 *🌐 In the arena of ideas, Paul supports women's participation but stresses the need for male-only spaces, citing XY crew's approach.*
26:15 *🇮🇳 Paul recounts a conflict with an Indian woman in the men's rights movement, highlighting tensions and disagreements.*
28:22 *⚖️ If Paul could change a law, he would end the state's involvement in marriage, advocating for a separation between marriage and state authority.*
29:35 *👨👦 Paul supports default father custody in cases of separation, emphasizing the need for fair treatment of fathers.*
30:04 *🗳️ Paul discusses the 19th Amendment, expressing mixed feelings but acknowledging the disastrous consequences of women in office.*
31:53 *🧠 Paul highlights the vulnerability of men when infatuated, suggesting the importance of educating young men on relationships.*
36:29 *⚠️ Paul advises against marriage due to its risks, emphasizing that the best way to avoid divorce is not getting married.*
39:50 *🤔 Paul criticizes men in India for not researching marriage laws and for quickly entering another marriage after a divorce, suggesting the need for awareness and caution.*
43:44 *🤷♂️ Initial skepticism towards women in the men's rights space, highlighting the need to evaluate the value of their work.*
44:10 *📚 Some acknowledgment of the value in works critical of feminism, such as Christina Hoff Sommers' books.*
45:06 *🔄 Observation of individuals turning against the men's movement when topics like gynocentrism are discussed, citing examples like Sydney Watson and Lauren Southern.*
46:00 *💪 Governments' fear of strong men and the intentional disempowerment of men in families, linking it to historical movements and organizations.*
47:38 *🌐 Reflection on the possibility that men can lead simpler lives (minimalism) compared to women and how government capitalizes on women's consumer behavior.*
50:08 *💸 Suggestion to shift focus from the wage gap to the consumer gap, emphasizing women's significant role in discretionary spending.*
51:14 *🤔 Criticism of conservative figures like Jordan Peterson, Matt Walsh, and Ben Shapiro for advocating marriage without addressing legal injustices in family courts.*
53:27 *🔍 Recognition of efforts to engage Jordan Peterson in discussions on men's issues, highlighting their reluctance and potential financial barriers.*
55:20 *⚖️ Evaluation of the court system, suggesting the need for transparency (cameras in family courts) and educating judges on constitutional principles.*
57:53 *🔄 Speculation on the potential collapse of the current system, with declining sperm counts and testosterone levels contributing to societal challenges.*
59:02 *🌐 Encouragement for a global approach like the Indian model, emphasizing the need for more initiatives reaching and helping men.*
01:03:31 *🍼 Regret over not addressing circumcision earlier and recognizing it as a crucial issue affecting men from birth.*
Made with HARPA AI
Neat tool .. If Paul agrees with this summary, maybe he should pin it? I dunno
"It takes a thick skin to be red pilled and stand by your decisions ".
I'm definitely hanging on to that fantastic gem.
Thanks Paul.
Hi Paul,
An AVFM contributor here over a number of years. You remain my inspiration. No cause is more thankless and that is why your courage and commitment is so moving.
You do what you do because you have a huge heart.
Thanks dear man.
Thank you, brother. Very kind of you to say.
The host makes a great point about Mrs. Doubtfire, and how the movie changes as you are red pilled. I recently saw it again after many years, and I see exactly what the host means. Robin Williams played a dad who wanted to be there, he wanted to do everything for his kids. And Sally Field simply said no because SHE was unhappy. The kids didn't want him to leave either. But she kicked him out, left him with nothing, then proceeds to berate him because he's not providing enough?!?!?
Sometimes they lower the curtain, but most men miss it
Don't forget, the Robin Williams character was a grown up child at first. He arranged for barn animals to be in the house. He could not keep a job. Responsibility was anathema to him. It was only upon losing his children that he was forced to grow up to be a responsible guy- dressed as an old lady. If he was not responsible, his ex-wife would rightly have fired him. At the end, when he was exposed, he finally grew up. His ex-wife saw that, and allowed him to be with his children, unsupervised. It could be regarded as a coming of age movie. Daniel Hillard (Robin Williams) grows up.
Thank you so much, Paul. I came across your channel a couple of years ago, after swallowing the bitter pill of a divorce and custody battle under modern western family law. Your videos provided me with much of the intellectual framework to be able to think of me and my life beyond the mental fences of the sacrificial mindset that I was raised into. I'm still walking my way through all of the deception, anger and depression related to the misconceptions that I had about intra- and intersexual dynamics of my beloved species, but it's getting easier with time passing. Thank you so much for all the work you do. 🙏
36:22 Marriage causes divorce. I got absolutely destroyed in my UK divorce. Lost 70% of my assets, including my house, despite my wife earning more and us only having 1 kid. The UK divorce judges are way too biased and unpredictable, and the cost of divorce legal fees makes justice impossible.
I prefer Jerry Lewis' explanation: "there are many causes for a divorce - main reason is and will always be: the marriage"
btw sorry for your loss. UK judges in general seem ...strange... to the civilised world recently...
@@michaelkeller5008 UK judges are the worst. Even Johnny Depp lost his case in the UK. UK judges are free to do whatever they like. Zero scrutiny.
I’m sorry you went through that. It’s same in USA. I have guys going through divorced here and they say “I don’t want to lose half” I always says it’s not half it’s 70-75% percent
@@Mac-sb6dr Exactly. Even in America, 50% and then add on alimony and legal fees, you are losing well over 50%. It is crazy no one is talking about this.
Me as well - took 20 years to get over the financial hammering! This lunacy has to be openly discussed.
Great to see you again, Paul.
Way too long between drinks.
Greetings from Melbourne, Australia.
Paul is looking good and healthy!
Overweight looks healthy to you? Really?
@@ivan11h You're going to have to troll better than that if you want to be taken seriously.
@@danielkaiser8971what are you talking about? I’m not trolling. He is overweight, that’s a sign of desease.
Thank you both... great interview.
Thank you for talking about Walsh, Shapiro, Peterson, etc. They need a spotlight on their BS.
I still need to reach out to you mr. Elam. I need to get off my lazy butt. Good to see you.
👍
Yes Cowboy 👍
THANK YOU for this PHENOMENAL stream!!!! The wisdom you have shared needs to be spread GLOBALLY, and I am doing my miniscule part by sharing it with my siblings and friends and associates, and I sincerely PRAY that all viewrs of this stream will do the same. Peace and long life to all of you. Thank you again!
The brilliant Paul Elam - looking well and remains an inspiration to all of us!
Excellent Interview
I have followed Paul since the 90’s
So glad to hear that you are taking up the cause against Circumcising our Sons along with all the other amazing work that you do
Good to see you Paul.
The nanny state has benefited nobody. Marriage should be a contract between two people with their own terms and dissolution terms. The problem is that the state should have no say on private contracts or property but it has no respect for any of those two issues, which arte the origin of all traditional legality.
Gawd, you and your guest nailed it so many times I lost count. Great video!
Great interview Paul. Michael Harvey Joseph, Oregon
Thank you for you Inspiration Paul Elam and SIFF.
Thank you for the wisdom Paul. Learning alot from your work
Keeps spreading it
Interesting discussion as always. Thanks Paul for continuing to do what you do.
Love his perspective. Clearly thought this through. Thank you both.
Great to see you again, Paul. And props to Vasanth for making this a good discussion.
We are seeing the fall of the West literally on a daily basis, and you highlighted some of the reasons here in the discussion - the feminisation of men, falling sperm count, the biased court system which destroys men in divorce, and men waking up to the perils of getting married and thus checking out of risky relationships.
I have a formulated a model of why relationships are failing in the West. I wonder if you can give your views of this? Successful societies are founded on a well defined social dominance hierarchy. Traditionally this has been, rather faultily, but nonetheless successful, and in order: 1. god/religion, 2, government, 3. man, 4. woman, 5. child. Government relies on religion to be its social enforcer to keep society civil because it can't do it on its own and it can't trust people to be civil without intervention, which is not true but nevertheless what it believes. We know this because this is why governments support and fund churches of all religions, which is particularly noticeable right now in the UK as mosques are being funded straight out of the Budget. Now, marriage is a religious concept and is backed by law, and hence neatly ties and controls men and women's behaviour to the government. They enforce this further by offering tax breaks to married couples. And the stigma for ensuring the nuclear family is through marriage is by name-calling children born out of wedlock "illegitimate" or "b**tards". However, when marriages break down, men suffer the majority of the penalties. This thus hands over control of the relationship to the chief beneficiary - the woman. Thus in this case, the social dominance hierarchy is broken. Now, given that religion is failing, and is really a deception anyway and most people are waking up and becoming atheist in the West, and as you said, government don't like strong men who can make their own decisions independently, all that leaves in the dominance hierarchy is men over women. So when that is itself compromised, such as by laws, over which even strong men have to comply with, and by gynocenticism, and by a higher proportion of women getting degrees and having successful careers, there is an ever diminishing pool of competent men to maintain the hierarchy. But the final nail in the coffin is the social conditioning of men and women. Women are conditioned to set a standard for men to commit to a relationship, leading to marriage, this is an ultimatum. Men who comply are, by default, handing over the control of the relationship, which again inverts the hierarchy and can easily lead to destruction for the man. I remember Janice saying something along the lines of the woman will get the man to succumb to her will and she'll then grow to hate him for it and for being so weak, or words to that effect. So it really is incumbant on a good, strong-willed man to stand up to a woman and never get married. Commitment can be made in many ways besides marriage. If the woman loves the man enough, she'll stay regardless, as your very own relationship desmonstrates. Lastly, though, gynocentricism says that if a man does stand up to a woman, then he's a misogynist, and you have to withstand the social threat of cancellation as well.
Once you know how it works, you then know how to win it.
I find it funny how smug the Daily Wire people are when they are berating single people. Whilst they all happily married, they have no empathy for anyone else. I call this a "relationship empathy gap". It is particularly wide with people who are married and think they are beyond reproach. But as recent celebrities such as Stephen Crowder and Destiny have found out to their serious cost, they are not immune from the above social dominance hierarchy. It's hard to offer them any sympathy when they've spent years publically sh**ting on single people.
Keep up the good work.
Great discussion ❤
Just finshed your book red pill psychology. ...your saving lives ...im going red pill 2.0
Thank You !!
Thank you for not pulling any punches when commenting on the CON Men, Tradcons... Vile people indeed!
Glad you're both still in the fight. Alison Teman just relieved some kind of weird death threat. It was very upper crusty. Hope Pupper hasn't lost his appetite for cowards. Hope this was just ill-wind.
Make marriage a private bond, not legal!
Unfortunately Paul is still right about Men should not marry. This thing could be solved overnight if enough Men just continually said no to marriage.
Well, apparently you (and myself too) are incorrect. Marriage rates have been falling for decades. Now marriage rates are under 1% .. and yet, imo, everything is still going downhill. imo the “decline” is accelerating.
@captnhuffy there is no change in India. Idiots are still getting married, divorced and married again
Marriages are still happening in millions in India. No one cares
@@captnhuffy Obviously there is far more to the problem than marriage rates. But attitudes are noticeably different these days than ten years ago. Back then, feminists flooded comment sections shaming anyone who wasn't in lock step with their cult. These days, it is somewhat common to see comment sections with antifeminist attitudes as well as a working vocabulary of narcissistic abuse terms. I believe the two are directly related to each other. If it seems like nothing changes, it's because the real changes take time.
@@danielkaiser8971 Yes and no. Feminism, in just years, destroyed what took centuries to build. Women built the society, and men built the Civilization. Feminism undermined the society, and men started walking away almost immediately… What I’m saying is that destruction happens fast and; high quality change takes honorable people a long long time to progress. Women have proven that they don’t deserve good men. Until women reverse the systemic damages they have done, men will not return, and YES, that will take a long long time. Until then, men will kick back and enjoy the decline. My next phase in life will be exploring the Caribbean islands and the women there too, of course. Because western women don’t deserve my consideration because of their past behavior. Tough shift.
Paul has such a great way of chatting with people. And he looks very robust.
48:53 - 49:56
Men have given away their Economic Liberty.. and women have sucked that Economic Liberty up with a fire-hose. Remember: without Economic Liberty there is no Liberty at all. p.s. thanks for highlighting that segment
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Very interesting video.
THANKYOU for this paul and vasanth. vasanth i ONLY want to hear your voice. NOT its echo. improve yr audio
Will look into this. I tried different audio filters and seemed good at the time of testing. Thanks for letting me know.
@@VasuEricsson your welcome, sorry if i was terse. JAI BOLE ! ( just listen to both audios, paul doesnt have an echo, yours does. )
Gynocentrism is going on in every public sphere.
going for the Nobel Peace prize I see. cheers my friend
Paul Elam is a revelation.
So many great points in this video. It just seems like so much of our policy in the west is based on the idea that women feel that nature has been unfair to them, so society tries to correct that with social policy because men have a desire to want to run to the rescue for women. So many men can’t occupy a rational middle ground when it comes to women. Either they’re being oppressed or men are running to the rescue. As soon as women occupy a rational middle ground in the minds and imaginations of men, that’s when we’ll see some real progress.
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12 years into a cr-**ppy divorce case and million other cases. My feelings about marriage are same as those of pauls. I would go on to say that men should stay away from women in any platonic relationship
I agree. Men need to stay away from women and when they can't, have an audio recording device on hand, it's acceptable in public places.
said he would make a law that gave father's default custody. I wonder if he knew that used to be the case up until the early 1900s
Love and Regards from India dear sir. We as MRAs in India highly regard your work specifically.
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@@shahminhajuddin keep moving forward sir, the next generation is rising for men's rights issues, we all would have to fight tooth and nail
The moment I saw the ad for Barbie....I knew officially Hollywood has died and basically society has gone in the crapper.
Oh, that was a long time ago that Hollywood died and society went in the crapper. A long, long time ago.
@@aservantinbabylon It was really more or less seeing Ryan gosling as Ken. I really felt embarrassed for him, I mean how bad is your career tanking that you have to resort to this lol. How can anyone really ever take him serious ever again?
Hi Paul, regarding Peterson et al being sellouts:
just curious: has any governmental organizations ever approached you with money to attempt to get you to sellout?
that would be an interesting video topic.
No. Never.
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interesting.
I wonder if Peterson was actively approached or he just decided to sellout purely based on his own financial calculus (the latter is worse in some ways as he decided to consciously do this and he didn't even "get a threatening phone call in the middle of the night", aka a silver or lead deal so to speak...)
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 He is really good with dismantling opponents in conversation, but guy is blue pilled as heaven. He married his current wife when she hit the wall (after she enjoyed all the cc). His daughter chased after Andrew Tate to Romania to supposedly talk about business (cc ride just like mommy).
I really liked to listen to Jordan P. when I discovered his content. Guy was making a lot of interesting points from psychological/academical perspective. I was surprised when he called MGTOW pathetic weasels, because his early vids aligned with RP ”philosophy”. I even bought his book, but was disappointed, because everything what was in it I've seen before on YT. Anyway you can learn few things from him, but putting him on pedestal is a big mistake.
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Australian Anti-Feminist RUclipsr Feminism Debunked has been under attack from the entire Australian Legacy Media. This is a huge story here in Australia. Please cover it.
Will check. Thanks for bringing to our attention.
In india, depending upon state you live, if you are a woman, you'll get- free transportation, free money, free housing scheme, free gold, free money and gold during wedding and child birth if child is female, free education, less fees in education and competitive exams, 33% reservation in education, employment and parliament. It can go up aswell. For eg in nursing women has 80% reservation, 56 gender biased laws exclusively for women, no punishment for fake cases, multiple schemes only for women, right to property from your parents, husband and in-laws, less interest rates for women taking loans, less registration fee for buying property or land, special programs to promote female entrepreneurs, special tax benefits for women. Tell me, in which part of the world women get all these things but still they play victim card.
Edit- new scheme launched on women's day. 200,000 rs for every widow who wants to remarry.
Oof
Yes! The bigger problem is weak men.
💯% weak men are the authors of their own downfall.
It is literally impossible to be more Alpha than the culture, the society, or the Legal system. Or are you just saying that men should never get involved with any of these three systems?? Serious question.
Indeed. It's always a man's fault. Men are horrible.
I was one of the many that was being chewed up through divorce in the early 2000’s. There were NO support systems available for MEN. As Paul as stated even in the therapy spaces it was very gynocentric and covertly bordered on shame and blame. He is correct when stating the MGTOW space has many contributors and many points of view. I myself personally in my HEALING process have viewed many of these sites. Yes, at times it’s confrontational, but the bottom line is they are there, available to support MEN, many at the most vulnerable point in their lives. Sometimes just having someone there knowing what you’re going thru is all that you need to stop the spiral.