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  • We are going to differentiate anything that we want! For this video, we will use implicit differentiation to find dy/dx for x^sin(y)+y^cos(x)=1. This is a great practice problem for calculus 1 students! What's next?
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Комментарии • 105

  • @josefwakeling7103
    @josefwakeling7103 2 года назад +68

    *laughs in the weierstrass function*

    • @pardeepgarg2640
      @pardeepgarg2640 2 года назад +8

      NO!!!!

    • @soumyojitpal3399
      @soumyojitpal3399 2 года назад +2

      i am new to calculus, can you explain what is the weierstrass function ?

    • @jaxoncr
      @jaxoncr 2 года назад +10

      @@soumyojitpal3399 a function that is continuous everywhere, but differentiable no where. If a function is differentiable, it implies it is also continuous. However, the converse is not true. A classic example is the function abs(x) about x = 0, the function is continuous but not differentiable at that specific point. This is similar to the weierstrass function except we cannot differentiate it at any point.

    • @Taigokumaru
      @Taigokumaru 2 года назад +1

      @@jaxoncr Omg. I had to Google it to confirm the graph. The Weierstrass function is basically the aura around the characters powering up in the Dragonball Z anime!

  • @retired5548
    @retired5548 2 года назад +82

    I anticipate that suggestions of nondifferentiable functions will be quite popular. Perhaps exploring the properties of such a function, such as Weierstrass' function or Bolzano's function, and showing where the reasoning for differentiability breaks down in such cases might help increase the understanding of why continuity does not necessarily imply differentiability.

    • @SaurabhKumar-jo6dp
      @SaurabhKumar-jo6dp 2 года назад +5

      Right my opinion was also same🤞

    • @volodymyrgandzhuk361
      @volodymyrgandzhuk361 2 года назад +2

      When you say that Weierstrass's function has no derivative, that's an answer to the question "What is the derivative of Weierstrass's function?" On the other hand, it's impossible, or at least too hard, to compute the integrals of certain functions.

    • @PinusTF2Spy
      @PinusTF2Spy 2 года назад +1

      True. I want bprp to show why the subdifferential (generalized derivative) of the norm function doesn't exist at 0 and also differentiate a "quadratic" function, except a quadratic that doesn't look like x^2, but rather x^T*A*x.

  • @coderanger7708
    @coderanger7708 2 года назад +34

    Differentiate Weierstrass function next. By differentiation just find the slope at each interval and show us.

  • @SeeTv.
    @SeeTv. 2 года назад +27

    Math majors are triggered. Not all functions are differentiable everywhere :D

    • @cH3rtzb3rg
      @cH3rtzb3rg 2 года назад +1

      This totally triggered me as well! In fact, barely any functions are even continuous everywhere. And every function which is differentiable is also integrateble (because every continuous function is).

  • @karannair3035
    @karannair3035 2 года назад +26

    You should do a legitimate series on derivatives of big expressions like this. Really cool to watch and solve along.

  • @zhiyuanliu9533
    @zhiyuanliu9533 2 года назад +9

    Can you please find the second derivative of that equation?

  • @liamwelsh5565
    @liamwelsh5565 2 года назад +3

    6:45 I do this so much. I spend like a minute or two trying to figure out what's the best way to write the final answer even though it doesn't matter at all. lol

  • @Firefly256
    @Firefly256 2 года назад +2

    Why does bprp say chain rule as chandu?

  • @YoavZilka
    @YoavZilka 2 года назад +11

    You could differentiate the Lambert W function. It really suits your channel, and it’s quite nice using implicit differentiation.

    • @YoavZilka
      @YoavZilka 2 года назад +6

      Just noticed you already did that!

    • @bprpcalculusbasics
      @bprpcalculusbasics  2 года назад +12

      Yea. But I can make a remastered version or a harder one.

    • @YoavZilka
      @YoavZilka 2 года назад +3

      @@bprpcalculusbasics sounds good

    • @YoavZilka
      @YoavZilka 2 года назад +4

      @ニコラ-NR you can, but it’s kinda complicated. You need to take a u sub where u=W(x), and then find dx in terms of du by differentiating u (which is just W(x)). From there it’s pretty straight forward using integration by parts

    • @cH3rtzb3rg
      @cH3rtzb3rg 2 года назад +1

      @ニコラ-NR You can integrate any continuous function. It may not be possible to express the integral with elementary functions, though.

  • @mathboy8188
    @mathboy8188 2 года назад +4

    One gotcha with implicit differentiation: you've got stop and ask if there's even a function there at all.
    For instance here, when x = 0, ANY y such that sin(y) > 0 is a solution, so you're either locally looking at a vertical line (so no derivative), and/or, as I'd guess, a lot of "branches" converging onto intervals of the y-axis. Even if the formula spits out a value for dy/dx at some point where x=0, you don't have "the derivative there", but rather only the beginning of an interpretation of what's going on with that relationship there. I checked graphically (wolfram alpha), and there's a unique x value corresponding to y = pi/6 (x ~ 0.2), so you likely have a clean local branch of a function near there, but in general, implicitly defined "functions" can be a real mess. (There's an advanced calculus theorem, The Inverse Function Theorem, which will give you some local guarantees, but of course that demands carefully checking its assumptions hold.)
    Easy Example of the kinds of situations to look out for:
    Use implicit differentiation on x^2 + y^2 = 0.
    You get 2x + 2y y' = 0, so y' = - x / y. Thus you get a formula for the derivative everywhere where y isn't 0. Problem is, y = 0 is the only y value for that relationship. The implicit function there is the most trivial one imaginable: { 0 } --> { 0 }, having domain and range both a single element. No function with a discrete domain is going to have any derivatives anywhere... the concept doesn't even make sense. So even though you get a nice simple relationship, x^2 + y^2 = 0, and a nice clean formula, y' = - x / y, that derivative formula means absolutely nothing.
    Here's an even more dramatic example: x^2 + y^2 = -1.
    Again, if you do implicit differentiation, you'll get y' = - x / y... but there's no points satisfying that example, so certainly no local branch function there, so certainly no derivative.

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 2 года назад +1

    We can differentiate anything! what about functions like Weierstrass

  • @michaeledwardharris
    @michaeledwardharris 2 года назад +1

    That was a pretty wild ride! Very interesting problem, and a neat solution.

  • @raifegeozay687
    @raifegeozay687 2 года назад +6

    find the second devirate next:
    y=((x^x^x+tan(tan(tan(x!))) -cos(sin(x))+arctan(arctan(x)))!)^((x^x^x+tan(tan(tan(x!))) -cos(sin(x))+arctan(arctan(x)))!)
    (yes there are some factorials)
    (use gamma function to differentiate factorial)

  • @adrishbora
    @adrishbora 2 года назад +5

    This series is going to be absolutely fun!!! Love your content man!!!

  • @conanedojawa4538
    @conanedojawa4538 2 года назад +3

    I ask you to solve the resulting exact differential equation from this implicit differentiation

  • @genius5625
    @genius5625 2 года назад +3

    Me as calc3 student : why i am doing this ? 😂😅😂

  • @kepler4192
    @kepler4192 2 года назад +4

    You can also memorize the formula for differentiating g(x)^h(x):
    f prime= (g(x)^h(x))[(h*dg/dx)/g + dh/dx*ln(g)]
    God it’s so hard writing math in comments

    • @JansthcirlU
      @JansthcirlU 2 года назад +2

      Could've used apostrophes for less clutter: (g^h)' = (g^h) * [h * g' / g + h' * ln(g)]

    • @kepler4192
      @kepler4192 2 года назад

      @@JansthcirlU ah, thx

  • @nalingoel6971
    @nalingoel6971 2 года назад +3

    Try differentiating x^(tan(y)) = y^(tan(x))

  • @nekothecat
    @nekothecat 2 года назад +7

    Can you try differentiate x^y^x^y ?

  • @henningnagel1977
    @henningnagel1977 2 года назад +2

    Entered the original function into Wolfram Alpha. Well...

  • @YossiSirote
    @YossiSirote 2 года назад +3

    I think it is easier to use the y’ notation rather than dy/dx in this situation.

  • @samwitkowski3459
    @samwitkowski3459 2 года назад +1

    now do the second derivative.

  • @zhiyuanliu9533
    @zhiyuanliu9533 2 года назад +1

    Differentiate x!*(x^2)

  • @fanamatakecick97
    @fanamatakecick97 2 года назад +3

    The symmetry with this derivative is angelic, i’m not gonna lie. Math is so satisfying

  • @novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753
    @novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 2 года назад

    ...and now solve the differential equation you just created. 🤓😁

  • @MohitKumar-eu4pz
    @MohitKumar-eu4pz 2 года назад +1

    I. Solved this very quickly

  • @gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240
    @gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240 2 года назад

    Haters will say that means you can't differentiate what you can differentiate vs what you can't differentiate.

  • @twelfthdoc
    @twelfthdoc 2 года назад +1

    So this is where we paramaterize x and y in terms of t and figure out what dy/dx is terms of t?... Maybe another day...

  • @dinosaric4862
    @dinosaric4862 2 года назад

    The graph of that function is just a bunch of squared with rounded corners haha

  • @ДенисКосько-н9и
    @ДенисКосько-н9и 2 года назад

    weierstrass function? ok.
    and dirichlet function next

  • @cobovega27
    @cobovega27 2 года назад +2

    Is the factorial function differentiable? How would one tackle that problem? Do we use the gamma or pi function?

    • @soupisfornoobs4081
      @soupisfornoobs4081 2 года назад +3

      It's not differentiable in the standard way because it is a discreet function, but you can use the gamma function and the result is pretty cool

    • @cobovega27
      @cobovega27 2 года назад +1

      Sounds fun

  • @Ou_dembele
    @Ou_dembele 2 года назад

    Do some radical function derivatives

  • @GaryFerrao
    @GaryFerrao 2 года назад

    you look different. what could it be hmm lol

  • @sriprasadjoshi3036
    @sriprasadjoshi3036 2 года назад

    Him: Chain Rule
    Subtitle: Chandu

  • @GreenMeansGOF
    @GreenMeansGOF 2 года назад

    Differentiate the gamma function

  • @acuriousmind6217
    @acuriousmind6217 2 года назад +1

    5:21 this and this and this and that sounds understandable

  • @plutothetutor1660
    @plutothetutor1660 2 года назад

    differentiate the infinite tetration of x

  • @hoen3561
    @hoen3561 2 года назад

    differentiate x^y^x^y..... = πy

  • @SlemTurnThePowerOn
    @SlemTurnThePowerOn 2 года назад

    Second derivative of this one?

  • @shaftous
    @shaftous 2 года назад

    bring back the longer hair!!

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 2 года назад +1

    This is in class,in the test - find y'' 🤣

  • @dinosaric4862
    @dinosaric4862 2 года назад

    Now integrate the result

  • @ALisztf
    @ALisztf 2 года назад

    Now integrate it to get rid of the dy/dx 🤡

  • @shadowgamerA
    @shadowgamerA 2 года назад +1

    Felt amazing on solving it within 3 minutes....🙂😃

  • @frentz7
    @frentz7 2 года назад

    You're a very cool guy. :)

  • @AndDiracisHisProphet
    @AndDiracisHisProphet 2 года назад

    Dirichlet Function

  • @yk4r599
    @yk4r599 2 года назад

    Nice, now find y 🤣🤣

  • @distinctperception2776
    @distinctperception2776 2 года назад

    Differentiate x! :)

  • @Ashirene22
    @Ashirene22 2 года назад

    u gonna do calc 3 content?

  • @teelo12000
    @teelo12000 2 года назад

    That sounds like a challenge. Differentiate: d/dx(my completely made up function where I'm not going to tell how you it works of (x))

    • @m3nny125
      @m3nny125 5 месяцев назад

      Case one:
      D/DX of D/DX = D^2/DX^2
      Case two:
      Cancel d and d out
      D/DX of X = 1

  • @ДенисКосько-н9и
    @ДенисКосько-н9и 2 года назад

    and yes, i do like it!

  • @quadruplay9788
    @quadruplay9788 2 года назад

    now solve for y

  • @joakimharbak7485
    @joakimharbak7485 2 года назад

    Try x! maybe?

  • @adamforte9530
    @adamforte9530 2 года назад

    That was great

  • @pierrotinturquoise
    @pierrotinturquoise 2 года назад

    What about a video about Weierstrass Function next? :> I couldn't find a single good video on this topic in youtube. Please make one on this. :"(

  • @sharele98
    @sharele98 2 года назад

    solve for y

  • @deep24543542
    @deep24543542 2 года назад

    d/dx sin(x)^cos(x)^tan(x)

  • @jamessprenkle6355
    @jamessprenkle6355 2 года назад

    More !!!

  • @AriosJentu
    @AriosJentu 2 года назад

    How about differentiate matrix function? Or differentiate vector function wrt verctor?

  • @sanjayavamachaari623
    @sanjayavamachaari623 2 года назад

    differentiate y=icosxsiny/(2sinxtanx+1),w.r.t. x

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 2 года назад

    Next time i suggest you to find the derivative of (tanx)^(e^x)

  • @AnakinSkywalker-zq6lm
    @AnakinSkywalker-zq6lm 2 года назад

    It would have taken me forever and idk why… but he did it in under ten min so it must be true that studying solutions makes you good at math…

  • @quadruplay9788
    @quadruplay9788 2 года назад

    could you do some episodes on split-complex and dual numbers?

  • @Bilbobaggiins.0
    @Bilbobaggiins.0 2 года назад

    I am come on this channel not immediately but definately

  • @IoT_
    @IoT_ 2 года назад

    No, check by integration. 😅

  • @mathevengers1131
    @mathevengers1131 2 года назад

    Do half derivative of it.

  • @nirmankhan2134
    @nirmankhan2134 2 года назад

    🤑🤑🤑

  • @agabe_8989
    @agabe_8989 2 года назад

    now take the second derivative >:)

  • @SaurabhKumar-jo6dp
    @SaurabhKumar-jo6dp 2 года назад +1

    🤞 yeah

  • @rafaelgcpp
    @rafaelgcpp 2 года назад

    Differentiate I_Q(x) R->R, where I_Q(x) is 1 if x is rational and 0 otherwise...

    • @ДенисКосько-н9и
      @ДенисКосько-н9и 2 года назад +2

      Johann Peter Gustav Lejeune Dirichlet likes your comment

    • @mathboy8188
      @mathboy8188 2 года назад

      Differentiate f(x) = x^2 if x is rational, and 0 if x is irrational.
      Differentiate f(x) = 1 + sin(x) if x is rational, and 0 if x is irrational.

  • @Theo-ki3lu
    @Theo-ki3lu 2 года назад +2

    thanks for saying “he or she” instead of the “they” bullshit

  • @BenDover69831
    @BenDover69831 2 года назад +1

    yoooooo i just graphed this on desmos and it looks so cool!