The whole family knew she was having issues and not one of them tried to get her help not one person thought to call Thorne and tell him all maya and rick did was use ally to cook and massage maysas feet so the way I see they all are responsible for what happened to ally
If she blackmailing her it’s totally evil and bad But from what she only saw of course she has the right to think that especially steffy didn’t tell the whole truth
Posi Tive By the law its a crime she caused her death Dont tell me she hit her but she died because she fell She fell because she hit her This is in general In this case it was a self defens yes But still steffy caused Ivy’s death
Posi Tive to be honest i didn’t read all your comment But anyway it seems you don’t want to read right I said in this case it was a self defens You said ivy dies because she fell and hit her head true but steffy caused that So if ivy wasn’t attacking her its a crime I hope you understand what im saying In general Just try to put steffy aside so you can understand my point
Posi Tive yeah ally sorry dear i watch it long time ago i agree with most of what you said But you can’t consider it totally only an accident If someone hit another with a car and he died it called a car accident But still a sort of a crime
As horrid as it is to dump someone at a funeral of all places, it's even worse to "blackmail" someone at the same gathering! This is one messed up sl! 😢
Steffy is not a kind of person to kill someone, so why would she kill her cousin? Did nobody think about that? Steffy had nothing against Aly, Aly is the one who had issues.
Liam had the hots for Steffy so bad that he couldn't wait until the next day. What a jerk. No wonder Thomas is such a mess with the way that Ridge treated him. Steffy was always his golden child.
Wyatt is buying what Ivy is selling. Funny how Ivy is ignoring that Aly had it in for Steffy and Maya and is acting as if Steffy was the one with the motive to kill. When this first aired i felt bad for Ivy. But watching this now i'm unmoved. She was trying to do the same thing Aly did i.e get rid of Steffy. Except she was hiding it behind Aly's death with that murder nonsense.
@@songriver1232 lol! I think the reason i felt sorry for her back then was because the few episodes i managed to see made me sympathetic. But now i'm seeing them all chronologically and getting the whole story, i don't feel that way anymore. That girl wanted revenge.
Two people missing and they allow only one lone woman to search for two missing people one of them distubed, while the other man sit and hold the hands lol what kind of family is this.
I think Ivy fixed the tape to look like Steffy killed Ally. Why didn't she run out to attack Steffy why tape it. Plus why would Steffy want to killed her own cousin? Ally had the motive and she created the situation.
For 100times staffy was defending her self and ivy stop saying that staffy killed Ali bse u didn't see the whole thing if Liam dumped you just deal with it dont put all your hanger on staffy for the record am not afun of staffy but on this she's the only one who tried to help Ali and you ivy your were busy choosing Liam you never paid much attention to ally so may her soul rest in peace we gonna miss her
Ivy is pissing me off here. She was her friend and she knew she had issues and did nothing knowing that she would go to where darla was killed should have been a red flag
Liam is diabolical. How you gonna break up with that girl at her cousin's funeral? I mean I get it you don't wanna be with her anymore but this was not the time or the place to deal with this. Liam was wrong af. Also this is the moment that really broke Ivy. Ivy was never the same after this break up witu Liam. She really lost her way after this. She started blackmailing Steffy, started messing around with Wyatt. She even went as far as changing herself to be more appealing to Liam. She started to dress, act, talk more like Steffy just to get Liam to love her again. Ivy started dressing more like Steffy. She even started talking like her. Ivy began talking with an American accent instead of an Australian one. Ivy was a great character but they really trashed her. She became an unlikeable person. She went through all of that and Liam still didn't love her. He still didn't want her back. Ivy is saying Steffy stole Liam from her. That's not what happened. Ivy should've suspected something like this would happen. Steffy and Liam have too much history between them. A history that cannot really be ignored. The minute Steffy came back, it was over.
I wonder where is all of Ridge's fatherly concern for Thomas now???? He can't get him away from Caroline fast enough. He's being an ass to him. But now he wants to crucify anyone that says he needs help. That baffles me
Ivy is a nutcase. She trapped Liam into a marriage but claims Steffy is manipulative come on. Steffy was and has always been honest that she loves Liam and they belong together. When Ivy leaves the show gets better.
Steffy really should of say exactly wat really happon an how she defined her self from ally an that's how she died so ivy won't have to accuse her of murder
@@lorikoenig6111Steffy haters don't acknowledge things like that bc they are petty..apparently if someone was trying to kill them they would just stand there and let them lmao..some ppl are delusional
Liam is so go damn dense:If aly wouldn't go insane all of this wouldn't happened and we all would still celebrating! Not to mention unsensitive brick also how he handling ivy! If whole family would have helped her, it wouldn't happened!it's the whole's family fault and steffy is held accountable only because aly had special kind of grudge on her.
Liam is like ridge he used to go back and forth between steffy and hope now he's leaving ivy for steffy and when hope comes back it going to start all over again between hope and Steffy they need new writers on this show
And had Ridge forgotten that Thomas was working as a designer a thousand times before, e.g. head designer for Spectra Fashion and the lines for Forrester???
Dayvion Carter 🥴🥴🥴It’s called self defense. If someone tried to run you over then proceed to attack you.what would you do? Just lying on the ground and let them🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Taylor didn't kill darla it was a foggy night and Darla fall on Taylor's car it was an accident if you want to blame anything blame the weather and Darls's clumsiness. As for aly her death is on thorn, eric, and brook are the only ones who knew how bad Aly was and never contacted Thorn. Honestly I believe that is why Thorn &Taylor broke up this last time she told him Aly was off her rocker again but he refused to see it just like when Steffy told him what Aly was doing right before she died. All steffy did was defend herself.
Everyone knew how erratic Aly was getting, everyone knew about her hate towards Steffy and Maya. So my question is, why did Steffy lie about what happened? Especially after everything that happened with Taylor and Darla, it feels unusually cruel to not give Thorne all the information about what happened to his daughter. Thorne is not an unreasonable man. He would've been angry that they didn't tell him how bad Aly was getting, but he wouldn't have blamed Steffy
He thought she could handle it because she was over there verbally attacking Steffy at a funeral! So she wasn't that sad about Aly! In my opinion both of them (Ivy and Liam) were both tacky in their delivery time!
LoL... I think it's funny! It's called karma Ivy for blackmailing Steffy. What kinda freak records this thing? Go hop on a roo back to Aussie! I'm sick of Ivy!
You are responsible for Allie's death Stephy don't be a denial you hated her bcoz she kept on confronting you about your wrong dos it is her fault Liam you all hypocrites
Thomas was already a Designer and IN THE SHOW it was said that Thomas' 'Toboo' line was one of the most successful lines "ever" in the history of Forrester Creations. Thomas also designed a men's line. Now, Ridge and Caroline are acting shocked that Thomas wants to design and he has to earn his stripes. Are the writers of this show schizophrenic ? Why is
When Hope or Ivy did the same self defense for there life about was Steffy did Steffy or all Steffy fans would Hope or Ivy blame as a murderer or that was not an accident it's killed.
BS! Man you Steffy haters apparently see what you wanna see. Ally was a fruit cake and caused her own death so the little brat got what was coming to her
Love ivy 💙💕 she's awsome actress and what steffy and Liam ♥️ did to ivy was cruel evil selfish annoying 😠 this is why alley ♥️ hated steffy 🌹 because she saw steffy 💔 for all her manipulation s of Liam ♥️ loved alley ♥️ can't stand steffy 💔💚💛💙💜♥️♥️💜💙💙💙💛💛 thorn should make steffy pay dearly for killing alley ♥️💜💯💯
@@keishamurrell3095 Ivy,Ally and Hope had more morals then Steffy ever had.No one of this three persons slept with the father in law and used there body to get what there want. But Steffy is always the saint and all other persons was evil.Ok was Ivy did was wrong but was Steffy with Ivy and Liam did to break up was wrong too.
@@ehrenfriedostermann6839 That Moral crap on this show is unbelievable. Ally went behind Hope with Oliver. Both Hope and Ivy were with two brothers.You believe that HFTF Cult garbage if you want to. Just because the mean girl and flunkys hollar morals don't make it true. They just look like 3 jealous chicks.Say what you want about Steffy but she stands alone those 3 busted broads had to team all the time.
STEFFI LIED TO THE COPS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED SHE DIDN'T METION5THE TIRE IROM IVY RECORED IT SAW HER HIT HER WITH THE TIRE IRON DON'T NOBODY JUST FALLS N HIT THERE HEAD N DIE
I love this Thomas! I hate how Ridge treats him. Love Pierson Fode...best Thomas ever.
Bring him and Thomas sanity back.
Rest in Peace Ally Forrester. You will be missed,
Yes, Ivy you loose your footing when you’re attacking someone and trying to kill them.
Why are they pretending like Aly wasn't crazy? Oh Ivy.....U r so obvious
Ivy you should have gotten her help since you knew she was having issues
The whole family knew she was having issues and not one of them tried to get her help not one person thought to call Thorne and tell him all maya and rick did was use ally to cook and massage maysas feet so the way I see they all are responsible for what happened to ally
Ivy could have stopped it had she not decided to pull out her phone
I can’t stand Ivy at this time.
I used to like Ivy. but now....... I am disappointed!
Nah Steffy killed Ally she has every right to question her
@@itaikahari9395 well killing someone and defending oneself are two different pair of shoes!
@@itsme4083 ... Exactly. Ivy sounds as crazy as Ali right about now. And, that sitting there making a video rather than trying to intercede... UGH
So why steffy doesn’t tell the whole truth??
Posi Tive
Ok agree it happens
Then why she didn’t tell thorn to have closure
Ivy you didn't even see the whole thing if you did you would of saw Ally attacking steffy trying to kill her. It was self defense
If she blackmailing her it’s totally evil and bad
But from what she only saw of course she has the right to think that especially steffy didn’t tell the whole truth
Posi Tive
By the law its a crime she caused her death
Dont tell me she hit her but she died because she fell
She fell because she hit her
This is in general
In this case it was a self defens yes
But still steffy caused Ivy’s death
Posi Tive to be honest i didn’t read all your comment
But anyway it seems you don’t want to read right
I said in this case it was a self defens
You said ivy dies because she fell and hit her head true but steffy caused that
So if ivy wasn’t attacking her its a crime
I hope you understand what im saying
In general
Just try to put steffy aside so you can understand my point
Posi Tive yeah ally sorry dear i watch it long time ago i agree with most of what you said
But you can’t consider it totally only an accident
If someone hit another with a car and he died it called a car accident
But still a sort of a crime
@@mmyash3836 cuz she decided to sit in the car and play film director instead of trying to diffuse the situation..
As horrid as it is to dump someone at a funeral of all places, it's even worse to "blackmail" someone at the same gathering! This is one messed up sl! 😢
That's what really angered Ivy Liam dumping her for Steffy she is just as disturbed as Ally
oh and steffy lied about what really happened.. most disturbed. you steffy fans cant say what is right and what is wrong.@@robindeas1610
Steffy is not a kind of person to kill someone, so why would she kill her cousin? Did nobody think about that? Steffy had nothing against Aly, Aly is the one who had issues.
Steffy was defending herself.
Thank you
It was an accident steffy was only defending herself
Liam had the hots for Steffy so bad that he couldn't wait until the next day. What a jerk. No wonder Thomas is such a mess with the way that Ridge treated him. Steffy was always his golden child.
Wyatt is buying what Ivy is selling. Funny how Ivy is ignoring that Aly had it in for Steffy and Maya and is acting as if Steffy was the one with the motive to kill. When this first aired i felt bad for Ivy. But watching this now i'm unmoved. She was trying to do the same thing Aly did i.e get rid of Steffy. Except she was hiding it behind Aly's death with that murder nonsense.
I never felt bad for ivy. She wanted to gun for steffie and she did. She used the death of her friend to do it.
@@songriver1232 lol! I think the reason i felt sorry for her back then was because the few episodes i managed to see made me sympathetic. But now i'm seeing them all chronologically and getting the whole story, i don't feel that way anymore. That girl wanted revenge.
@@kitjune9333 I was the same way the first time around kit because I knew Liam was going to dump her, now I’m like witch, really?!
Exactly js to get her re hired at Forrester
Two people missing and they allow only one lone woman to search for two missing people one of them distubed, while the other man sit and hold the hands lol what kind of family is this.
Even if Steffy hit her with the tire iron it’s called self defense. This is stupid!
it's called MURDER she could easily avoid it but she didn't.
I agree with you Steffy was defending herself against Ally who was unstable and delusional
And throwing away that tire iron and lying to the police is obstruction of the law, n'est-ce pas?
Steffy through the tyre iron away and lied to the cop's. Ivy had the video of it..
@@dickmannholger5290She doesn’t remember everything, therefore it isn’t obstruction of Justice. You have to prove intent.
why cant any woman on b&b accept a break up 😂
It wasn't that Liam thought they were fighting over him when in fact Steffy killed Aly
@@itaikahari9395 thank you liam isn't any prize
Itai Kahari Ali try to run her over then she tried to hit her with a crowbar then she tried to bash her head in with a rock ! that is self defense
Steffy didnt hit Ally to kill her and the tyre iron would have left a mark so it knocked Ally off balance but sadly she hit head on the rock
exactly! she swung at her to get her away aly lost her footing and fell. that is an accident not murder
Correct Aly slipped and hit her head on the rock and It was self defense.
but lied about it,,,, why stefy fans forget that?
Ridge was so hard on Thomas omg
I think Ivy fixed the tape to look like Steffy killed Ally. Why didn't she run out to attack Steffy why tape it. Plus why would Steffy want to killed her own cousin? Ally had the motive and she created the situation.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So you are the only one who is watching
No Ivy just saw what she wanted to see . she sat in her car and recorded it instead of getting out and trying to defuse the situation...
OMG, what pills are you on????
Its clear now that the writer had made it for all characters to hate steffy...whenever you're a strong person no one seems to like you
Ally tried to kill Steffy
yes.........and then steffy KILLED HER.
Steffy didn't kill her she was defending herself she didn't even hit her Ally fell and hit her head.
She was sick. She needed help!!!
Liam is so spoilt he gets someone like Ivy and breaks up I agree with Wyatt
For 100times staffy was defending her self and ivy stop saying that staffy killed Ali bse u didn't see the whole thing if Liam dumped you just deal with it dont put all your hanger on staffy for the record am not afun of staffy but on this she's the only one who tried to help Ali and you ivy your were busy choosing Liam you never paid much attention to ally so may her soul rest in peace we gonna miss her
Ivy is pissing me off here. She was her friend and she knew she had issues and did nothing knowing that she would go to where darla was killed should have been a red flag
Ridge afraid of his son staying because thats competition for him
Love Wyatt ♥️ he's awsome actor and so is ivy ♥️ steffy belongs in jail 👮👩⚖️ loved alley ♥️💚💚💜💛💚♥️♥️♥️♥️
I agree Melissa.. Steffi is a snake and a seducer 🧐🤨😏😏
@@maryjacob3680 me too
In jail….. for defending yourself against a lunatic who’s trying to kill you.🤣😂🤣You’re a 🥜🥜🥜🥜🥜
When does Ivy leave the show??!!
Liam breaking up with Ivy like this is a disgrace...disgusting
And this is why Wyatt is my number 1 Spencer man for Steffy.. He knows everyone's not perfect but he Loves & loyalty is Awsome-Sauce
but steffy and wyatt didnt have any connection...liam and steffy do
@@itsme4083 they had a connection, Liams was just stronger..She wouldn't have married him if there wasn't
Chicola Becton please, he went along with Ivy's nonsense
He had a huge foredome
Wyatt went alone with Ivy’s blackmail
Weired is handsome more special when he's dressed formal like his pretty mom Queen
Liam is diabolical. How you gonna break up with that girl at her cousin's funeral? I mean I get it you don't wanna be with her anymore but this was not the time or the place to deal with this. Liam was wrong af.
Also this is the moment that really broke Ivy. Ivy was never the same after this break up witu Liam.
She really lost her way after this. She started blackmailing Steffy, started messing around with Wyatt. She even went as far as changing herself to be more appealing to Liam. She started to dress, act, talk more like Steffy just to get Liam to love her again. Ivy started dressing more like Steffy. She even started talking like her. Ivy began talking with an American accent instead of an Australian one.
Ivy was a great character but they really trashed her. She became an unlikeable person. She went through all of that and Liam still didn't love her. He still didn't want her back.
Ivy is saying Steffy stole Liam from her. That's not what happened. Ivy should've suspected something like this would happen. Steffy and Liam have too much history between them. A history that cannot really be ignored. The minute Steffy came back, it was over.
I know that goody too shoes lvy was putting up was all an act I think Thomas coming back with a bad intention
I wonder where is all of Ridge's fatherly concern for Thomas now???? He can't get him away from Caroline fast enough. He's being an ass to him. But now he wants to crucify anyone that says he needs help. That baffles me
Bad writing!
Wyatt ♥️ awsome actor
Ivy is a nutcase. She trapped Liam into a marriage but claims Steffy is manipulative come on. Steffy was and has always been honest that she loves Liam and they belong together. When Ivy leaves the show gets better.
Steffy really should of say exactly wat really happon an how she defined her self from ally an that's how she died so ivy won't have to accuse her of murder
Steffy was in shock. Remember they started showing Steffy reliving what happened. Then she started to remember
@@lorikoenig6111Steffy haters don't acknowledge things like that bc they are petty..apparently if someone was trying to kill them they would just stand there and let them lmao..some ppl are delusional
Liam is so go damn dense:If aly wouldn't go insane all of this wouldn't happened and we all would still celebrating! Not to mention unsensitive brick also how he handling ivy! If whole family would have helped her, it wouldn't happened!it's the whole's family fault and steffy is held accountable only because aly had special kind of grudge on her.
This is so cruel and a little funny at the same time. Talk about bad timing. Jesus. How can you break up with somebody at a funeral?😧
Thats Lameass for u! He is definitely not, "diplomatic". 🙄
Obviously, Steffy didn't convince Liam to end his relationship with Ivy by manipulated him at Ally's memorial service.
Because Liam's an idiot. That's how. Even though we all saw it coming that Liam would dump Ivy, a funeral was the worst place and time to do it.
That's Liam. What else to expect from the Master Of Bad Taste.
What an idiot. Every woman is better off without him.
Liam is like ridge he used to go back and forth between steffy and hope now he's leaving ivy for steffy and when hope comes back it going to start all over again between hope and Steffy they need new writers on this show
Liam ♥️ is awesome actor so is ivy ☺️❤️ but he is so selfish to ivy ♥️ just like he was with hope 💜💛
Did Thomas all of a sudden forgot how Caroline treated him before he left?
And had Ridge forgotten that Thomas was working as a designer a thousand times before, e.g. head designer for Spectra Fashion and the lines for Forrester???
i loooooove ivy!!!!!
First Taylor kills Darla
Then Steffy kill Aly, i feel bad for Thorne
The rock killed Ally just like it killed Cersei in Games Of Throne! SMDH
Dayvion Carter 🥴🥴🥴It’s called self defense. If someone tried to run you over then proceed to attack you.what would you do? Just lying on the ground and let them🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@lorikoenig6111 no she should have run from Aly, not hit her with that freaking tire iron! 👿
Steffy didn’t kill Ally! Pay attention next time
Taylor didn't kill darla it was a foggy night and Darla fall on Taylor's car it was an accident if you want to blame anything blame the weather and Darls's clumsiness. As for aly her death is on thorn, eric, and brook are the only ones who knew how bad Aly was and never contacted Thorn. Honestly I believe that is why Thorn &Taylor broke up this last time she told him Aly was off her rocker again but he refused to see it just like when Steffy told him what Aly was doing right before she died. All steffy did was defend herself.
Thomas creeping since 2015
ZegetaX1 I loved him when Adam Gregory played him the best Pierson fode was a creep
Everyone knew how erratic Aly was getting, everyone knew about her hate towards Steffy and Maya. So my question is, why did Steffy lie about what happened? Especially after everything that happened with Taylor and Darla, it feels unusually cruel to not give Thorne all the information about what happened to his daughter. Thorne is not an unreasonable man. He would've been angry that they didn't tell him how bad Aly was getting, but he wouldn't have blamed Steffy
Because when it happened steffy was probably still in shock and couldnt think clear enough so she couldnt remember every detail.
Maybe Ivy should take some responsibility as well then. I/o sitting in her car videotaping she cldve ran out as soon as she pulled up.
Why did Liam choose this time to tell Ivy anything?!?! Why couldn't he wait?? SMDH
He thought she could handle it because she was over there verbally attacking Steffy at a funeral! So she wasn't that sad about Aly! In my opinion both of them (Ivy and Liam) were both tacky in their delivery time!
@Posi Tive is blackmail included in the stages of grief too? Because Ivy did that too. 🤷😂
LoL... I think it's funny! It's called karma Ivy for blackmailing Steffy. What kinda freak records this thing? Go hop on a roo back to Aussie! I'm sick of Ivy!
You are responsible for Allie's death Stephy don't be a denial you hated her bcoz she kept on confronting you about your wrong dos it is her fault Liam you all hypocrites
Thomas and Caroline right? Lol
Thomas was already a Designer and IN THE SHOW it was said that Thomas' 'Toboo' line was one of the most successful lines "ever" in the history of Forrester Creations.
Thomas also designed a men's line.
Now, Ridge and Caroline are acting shocked that Thomas wants to design and he has to earn his stripes.
Are the writers of this show schizophrenic ?
Why is
I liked this Thomas
When Hope or Ivy did the same self defense for there life about was Steffy did Steffy or all Steffy fans would Hope or Ivy blame as a murderer or that was not an accident it's killed.
The character of Thomas is always being played by different actors. Did no one want his part long term
Wyatt Megadome
Thorne u r to blame ure daughter is gone u also ivy should have stopped her death
That wasn't an accident Stephy killed on purpose she's bully everyone to listen to her
He forgot that they use his 5percent to own the CEO possition
That's right Nothing is ever Steffy's fault! She makes no mistakes. She surely didn't hit her with a crowbar.
she didnt hit her.. aly tried to bash steffis head in, slipped and hit her head on a rock!
Ivy’s voice 🤮
I love her voice and accent, but with her character and this episode while she is accusing Steffy,... yeah It’s really annoying!
Stephy resembles looks like Queen her dos like Brooke and Queen both psychos
Steffy killed her and thats the fact
BS! Man you Steffy haters apparently see what you wanna see. Ally was a fruit cake and caused her own death so the little brat got what was coming to her
@@Wareaglegirl9960 you re cruel
@@PostPandemicMadonna lol it’s a damn show!
@@Wareaglegirl9960 yeah but she killed her in the show i m not saying in real life
@@PostPandemicMadonna she didn’t kill her own purpose it was an accident. Ally was trying to kill Steffy
Thank God they got rid of Ivy
Cant stand Ivy
Love ivy 💙💕 she's awsome actress and what steffy and Liam ♥️ did to ivy was cruel evil selfish annoying 😠 this is why alley ♥️ hated steffy 🌹 because she saw steffy 💔 for all her manipulation s of Liam ♥️ loved alley ♥️ can't stand steffy 💔💚💛💙💜♥️♥️💜💙💙💙💛💛 thorn should make steffy pay dearly for killing alley ♥️💜💯💯
Ivy sucks
Ivy, Aly, and their idol Hope are all cuckoo. Steffy has major Daddy issues but being an Ivy and Aly fan ......😏☕ Chile Idk? They're just some haters
@@keishamurrell3095 Ivy,Ally and Hope had more morals then Steffy ever had.No one of this three persons slept with the father in law and used there body to get what there want. But Steffy is always the saint and all other persons was evil.Ok was Ivy did was wrong but was Steffy with Ivy and Liam did to break up was wrong too.
@@ehrenfriedostermann6839 That Moral crap on this show is unbelievable. Ally went behind Hope with Oliver. Both Hope and Ivy were with two brothers.You believe that HFTF Cult garbage if you want to. Just because the mean girl and flunkys hollar morals don't make it true. They just look like 3 jealous chicks.Say what you want about Steffy but she stands alone those 3 busted broads had to team all the time.
STEFFI LIED TO THE COPS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED SHE DIDN'T METION5THE TIRE IROM IVY RECORED IT SAW HER HIT HER WITH THE TIRE IRON DON'T NOBODY JUST FALLS N HIT THERE HEAD N DIE
Steffy was defending herself. Period point blank.
Ivy was nuts Stephanie was definitely herself