You forgot something about Orbital Gate Assault: If the player starts a battle if choosing the stage while pressing the shield button (ZL or ZR, for example) *WITHOUT* Fox and Falco, a secret discussion featuring Team Star Fox will start. Interesting fact, Wolf, Leon, Panther, Beltino and Krystal don’t talk in those discussions, even though they help Fox, Falco, Slippy, Peppy and ROB64 at that moment. Actually, for some reason, there’s no Wolfen in the stage and none of them are mentioned.
The Wii balance board being animated as a little guy on the stage is not a Smash idea, that is directly from Wii Fit. I love all the detail you go into with each stage and describing the references and the mechanics, really driving deep.
Here's another tidbit about this stage. In Ultimate, you cannot summon Alucard as an assist trophy in the Wii Fit training room, since vampires do not have a reflection.
Fun little fact about Wuhu Island: The omega form in Smash 4 was basically the stage flying over the island but Smash Ultimate changed it to take place in the Swordplay coliseum.
One thing worth mentioning is that when Gamer was brought back in Smash Ultimate, the artwork of the WarioWare characters like the stickers on 9-Volt's desk and the sketchbook got updated to use their WarioWare Gold artwork. And speaking of WarioWare Gold, Gamer comes back in that game as Sneaky Gamer and the Virtual Boy that was by the TV is replaced with a Wii U
19:25 For what it's worth, Haxorus came pretty close to being a pseudo-legendary, with the only criteria not being met being that the base stat total is too low. Weird that Goodra is missing too.
Another note on the PAC-LAND stage, the original game featured secrets by pushing certain objects. The stage will randomly choose objects and if you push them, you’ll gain their effects, growing like a super mushroom and getting a Lucky Pac to become invincible
And it even talks! I remember freaking out any time it would check my weight, because when you step on the actual board it makes this little "oh" of surprise, and I always assumed that meant I had gotten fat.
Fun fact about the Super Mario Maker stage (my favorite stage in Smash): Some layouts featured slopes in the terrain, a feature that, while highly requested, was surprisingly *never* added in the original Super Mario Maker and took all the way until Super Mario Maker 2 for it to finally be in an actual Mario Maker game.
I'll never forget the time i was playing Sm4sh and saw on of the Miiverse drawings for Cloud being from that one animation where he has this funny face yelling "We'll show him!!" and i wheezed.
(1:00) Also worth noting that Smash for Wii U also introduced 6 player Smash mode. 1-4 players had all stages available. 5-6 had some stages unavailable. 7-8 had even more stages unavailable.
35:43 Ms. PAC-MAN’s design is in the US version of PAC-LAND is actually based on her appearance in the PAC-MAN animated series by Hanna-Barbara which also served as the basis for the game itself. Sorry for the late info.
An interesting bit of unused data involving Midgar is that if you have two sound files for one song play on that stage, the stage will decide which sound file in that song will play for the match. This suggests that at one point in development, there probably wasn't going to be a Song Selection feature on that stage like there was for other stages, where you can choose how often a song plays. Sm4sh Midgar did have 2 songs after all
4:1:27 It's ee-freet (efreet is actually another spelling of the mythological creatures Ifrit is based on), ra-mu (he's named after either Lahmu, Raama and Vishnu or King Ra Mu of the lost city of Mu) and ba-ha-moot (who in the original myth was actually a whale, look it up).
You know, one detail I'm surprised you haven't mentioned regarding Woolly World and The Great Cave Offensive is that we were originally going to get a stage based on Kirby's Epic Yarn, but that was scrapped when Yoshi's Woolly World got announced. I still find it strange that they didn't opt for a stage based on Kirby's Return To Dream Land or something, but I'm not one to demonize Mr. Sakurai regardless of how bad The Great Cave Offensive is as a Smash Bros. stage.
Ah, Great Cave Offensive, the worst stage for what it represents for Kirby, ghosting the modern series completely Should have been a Return to Dream Land stage man
I never owned a Wii U and in fact I only played one once. It was a Friday night, I walked back into my barracks where there was a bit of a crowd around the CQ desk. The guy on duty had brought his Wii U down from his room along with a small monitor and of course it was Smash 4 that was on. Eventually I got my chance to play and despite spending a lot of time on Brawl back on the Wii, I got my ass kicked because I was in awe just staring at the background of the stages we played (in addition to not being able to get used to the right stick being *above* the face buttons, damn the Wii U pro controller sucked). Orbital Gate Assault, Jungle Hijinx, and Skyloft were awesome to look at.
It's the fact that there were so many high-effort, high quality art shows that were displayed that took a day or few to make on Miiverse and then they get forgotten after the next installment. Could've easily brought it back with a download-and-paste feature.
Bro I had NO clue there were this many new stages packed in two games that are basically the same game. Smash 4 Wii U was not only my first Smash game but also the first game I got on my Wii U on Christmas. I can’t believe this was the biggest when it came to number of new stages and new non-DLC characters.
32:03 A volcano visible from anywhere and the highest point, sounds a lot like Death Mountain in Hyrule and Woodfall in Termina (I guess Termina is upside down from Hyrule lol, though I think Snowfall is higher up than both Woodfall AND Death Moutain, which doesn't line up with Hyrule at all).
If I remember correctly a fun fact thing in smash says that if whalemer shows up, then the strong current appears but if he doesn’t, nothing really happens.
i think the wrecking crew floors are not infinite, there is just a lot of them, so you can run out if you turn timer off and break them without attacking each other
Woolly World was one of my favorite stages on Wii U and I was anticipating that it would return in Ultimate with new, updated graphics - extremely disappointed that it didn't return. I seriously hope that modders would be able to port it and retexture it into Ultimate.
Or maybe there will be some kind of DLC expansion to Ultimate that adds every other past stage along with some new stages, as well other new content like new modes.
2:16 The beanstalk was actually initially based on Sparkling Waters - A: Skyward Stalk in the main Mario Bros U game as the hidden level you can go to from the secret exit in world 1
Great Cave Offensive should have been a Return to Dream Land stage if they couldn't do an Epic Yarn stage. It just makes it even more obvious Sakurai is biased towards his Kirby games even thought he tried denouncing it by saying "It's based on the Super Star Ultra version".
The ShyGuys become actual playable characters in Mario Kart 8 without playing the game online. So them showing up as the racers in the Mario Circuit stage for Smash 4 is a reference to that.
One additional note about Gamer: Sometimes an old man walks by the window and pretends to be the mother. He also opens the window but his disguise becomes obvious by then.
Some things worth noting with the Palutena's Temple stage is that, while parts of it like the Waterfall and the upper right platforms are unique to the level, there are two sections that directly reference the 20th chapter of Uprising. Firstly, the underground areas at the bottom left are nods to the Strongarm Centurion encounter where there were two lines of statues in the room (which you can faintly see in one of the doorways), and the dungeon section of the same chapter just below that room (albeit said dungeon maze was a different building in the chapter). Secondly, the rising platform in front of the Palutena Statue is a nod to the arena where you fought Palutena and the Chaos Kin, starting in front of the temple before the platform began rising into the sky. The rest of the level, however, is totally original, with parts like the upper right area being more in line with the Skyworld Stage from Brawl.
28:01 The Wii Fit Balance Board was given a personality in the Wii Fit games. I know for sure that it was in Wii Fit U, but I don’t know about prior games.
I loved so many of these stages but Wuhu Island and Miiverse were some of my absolute favourites, some of the stuff you'd see on Miiverse were just so weird it's great
The Great Cave Offensive looks amazing and makes me want a Return to Dreamland styled 3D 2D remake of Super Star Ultra. But that will probably never happen, here’s hoping though.
I honestly want to see Pyrosphere return sometime. Now that stage hazards are able to be turned off now... Maybe this stage would make a good competitive stage?
35:50 Actually, the designs of Ms. Pac-Man and Pac-Baby (as well as Pac-Man himself) in the international version are based on their designs from the Pac-Man cartoon, which is actually what Pac-Land is based on. The international version also featured Pac-Man's dog and cat, Chomp-Chomp and Sour Puss, running around, who are completely absent in the Japanese version as well as in Smash. One last difference to these characters' appearances is that in the Arcade Archives and Pac-Man Museum+ releases of Pac-Land, Ms. Pac-Man and Pac-Baby are replaced with Pac-Mom and Pac-Sis, due to copyright issues. I don't know how they managed to get away with Ms. Pac's cameo in Smash, but whatever.
35:37 actually the "international" version of Ms. Pac-Man was based on the old 80s Pac-Man cartoon by Hanna Barbara. Kinda like how "Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine" used the old 1993 Sonic cartoon character designs.
Honestly I think I picked the Miiverse stage most times cause I wanted to laugh at the dumb things people would post/ draw there. Gave me a good chuckle
Give a Smash Stage to the player and they will play it for a day. Give the players the ability to make whatever they want and they will make Lewd 34 drawings of characters and SnooPINGAS usual I see all day.
![Koopa Cape ✕ Super Mario Galaxy 2 [Released]](/img/1.gif)
What was your favorite meme or post you saw playing on Miiverse back in the day?
Miiverse has been shut down for such a long time now that I can't even remember the things I used to see on the Miiverse stage lol.
What about gaur plain?
"Winning won't bring your mom back" - Lucas
Handsome Squidward
The QR code redirecting to your channel is genius
You forgot something about Orbital Gate Assault: If the player starts a battle if choosing the stage while pressing the shield button (ZL or ZR, for example) *WITHOUT* Fox and Falco, a secret discussion featuring Team Star Fox will start. Interesting fact, Wolf, Leon, Panther, Beltino and Krystal don’t talk in those discussions, even though they help Fox, Falco, Slippy, Peppy and ROB64 at that moment. Actually, for some reason, there’s no Wolfen in the stage and none of them are mentioned.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was a 44 minute video exclusively about miiverse stage and I was 100% on board with that
same here
same here
Kinda sad it wasn’t that
I just clicked on the video and am disappointed to find out that it’s not that.
Same. I just skipped to that part.
The Wii balance board being animated as a little guy on the stage is not a Smash idea, that is directly from Wii Fit.
I love all the detail you go into with each stage and describing the references and the mechanics, really driving deep.
Here's another tidbit about this stage. In Ultimate, you cannot summon Alucard as an assist trophy in the Wii Fit training room, since vampires do not have a reflection.
@JoeyKazooie Him being summonable but not having a reflection would have been far better.
He was even on the reveal trailer for Wii Fit Trainer
The Miiverse stage will always hold a place in my heart. Really miss it and Miiverse as a whole in a messed up sort of way.
Same here...
Fun little fact about Wuhu Island: The omega form in Smash 4 was basically the stage flying over the island but Smash Ultimate changed it to take place in the Swordplay coliseum.
One thing worth mentioning is that when Gamer was brought back in Smash Ultimate, the artwork of the WarioWare characters like the stickers on 9-Volt's desk and the sketchbook got updated to use their WarioWare Gold artwork. And speaking of WarioWare Gold, Gamer comes back in that game as Sneaky Gamer and the Virtual Boy that was by the TV is replaced with a Wii U
A cultured fellow.
I just looked in the tips for Gamer and the 3rd tip has got me laughing, the person who wrote it knew what they were doing.
From one failed console to another.
@@mann-nova9392 Who asked
@@hotuka Bruh
19:25 For what it's worth, Haxorus came pretty close to being a pseudo-legendary, with the only criteria not being met being that the base stat total is too low. Weird that Goodra is missing too.
Another note on the PAC-LAND stage, the original game featured secrets by pushing certain objects. The stage will randomly choose objects and if you push them, you’ll gain their effects, growing like a super mushroom and getting a Lucky Pac to become invincible
27:57
the animated Balance Board
is an actual character in the Wii Fit games
it will judge your weight and guide you through the menus
And it even talks! I remember freaking out any time it would check my weight, because when you step on the actual board it makes this little "oh" of surprise, and I always assumed that meant I had gotten fat.
@@EpicNerdsWithCameras i always thought it sayed "ow" XD
it hurts when you step on it with a large weight
Fun fact about the Super Mario Maker stage (my favorite stage in Smash): Some layouts featured slopes in the terrain, a feature that, while highly requested, was surprisingly *never* added in the original Super Mario Maker and took all the way until Super Mario Maker 2 for it to finally be in an actual Mario Maker game.
I'll never forget the time i was playing Sm4sh and saw on of the Miiverse drawings for Cloud being from that one animation where he has this funny face yelling "We'll show him!!" and i wheezed.
You forgot to mention that Odin can highly damage and send the fighter flying when he slices the Midgar stage in half.
2:16
"Beanstalks were the main mechanic in Luigi U's Beanstalk Jungle"
NSMBU's Skyward Stalk: Am I a joke to you?
Oops
(1:00) Also worth noting that Smash for Wii U also introduced 6 player Smash mode. 1-4 players had all stages available. 5-6 had some stages unavailable. 7-8 had even more stages unavailable.
I honestly like Smash 4's graphics over Ultimate. It just pops out more and is more appealing.
Especially the yellow characters, they look better on Wii U
Thought the QR code at 36:55 was a rick roll, but its just a shameless plug on your OWN channel!!!!
I respect that...
This was such a great idea for a stage. I know why they took it away. But goddamn was it not funny to see what this community came up with.
2:16 the beanstalk was actually a mechanic already in base NSMBU, appearing in A Skyward Stalk, the secret stage of Sparkling Waters
Smash 4 is the only game in the smash series I love to go back and play.
I’m surprised that there was never a Pictochat X in Ultimate. Seams like that would have been something they would do
35:43 Ms. PAC-MAN’s design is in the US version of PAC-LAND is actually based on her appearance in the PAC-MAN animated series by Hanna-Barbara which also served as the basis for the game itself.
Sorry for the late info.
Pretty sure the Wii Fit Balance Board was an animated character in the actual game and it isn't just a Smash addition.
The Loftwings look like they were inspired by real life shoebills. Look them up. They’re pretty scary birds.
A lot can happen in three years like Miiverse going from the best stage in Smash 4 to just being another Battlefield clone.
An interesting bit of unused data involving Midgar is that if you have two sound files for one song play on that stage, the stage will decide which sound file in that song will play for the match.
This suggests that at one point in development, there probably wasn't going to be a Song Selection feature on that stage like there was for other stages, where you can choose how often a song plays. Sm4sh Midgar did have 2 songs after all
You're gonna have to rewrite this one pls
4:1:27 It's ee-freet (efreet is actually another spelling of the mythological creatures Ifrit is based on), ra-mu (he's named after either Lahmu, Raama and Vishnu or King Ra Mu of the lost city of Mu) and ba-ha-moot (who in the original myth was actually a whale, look it up).
36:57 The absolute audacity of this man
You know, one detail I'm surprised you haven't mentioned regarding Woolly World and The Great Cave Offensive is that we were originally going to get a stage based on Kirby's Epic Yarn, but that was scrapped when Yoshi's Woolly World got announced. I still find it strange that they didn't opt for a stage based on Kirby's Return To Dream Land or something, but I'm not one to demonize Mr. Sakurai regardless of how bad The Great Cave Offensive is as a Smash Bros. stage.
It's also host to the worst Event Match.
Gamer is like a fusion between Wario Ware and FNAF.
Smash 3C actually has their own version of the Miiverse stage, complete with their own "posts". Some of the funniest sh*t I've ever seen.
Ah, Great Cave Offensive, the worst stage for what it represents for Kirby, ghosting the modern series completely
Should have been a Return to Dream Land stage man
I never owned a Wii U and in fact I only played one once. It was a Friday night, I walked back into my barracks where there was a bit of a crowd around the CQ desk. The guy on duty had brought his Wii U down from his room along with a small monitor and of course it was Smash 4 that was on. Eventually I got my chance to play and despite spending a lot of time on Brawl back on the Wii, I got my ass kicked because I was in awe just staring at the background of the stages we played (in addition to not being able to get used to the right stick being *above* the face buttons, damn the Wii U pro controller sucked). Orbital Gate Assault, Jungle Hijinx, and Skyloft were awesome to look at.
It's the fact that there were so many high-effort, high quality art shows that were displayed that took a day or few to make on Miiverse and then they get forgotten after the next installment. Could've easily brought it back with a download-and-paste feature.
I will always give Sakurai and his team massive respect for dedicating an entire year of development time for a Starfox stage. 👏👏
Bro I had NO clue there were this many new stages packed in two games that are basically the same game. Smash 4 Wii U was not only my first Smash game but also the first game I got on my Wii U on Christmas. I can’t believe this was the biggest when it came to number of new stages and new non-DLC characters.
My dude the balance board is animated in Wii Fit too. It greets you when you boot up the game and when you weigh in.
The force awakens got spoiled for me on the miiverse stage. 😂
What was the thing that was spoiled?!
@@dissonanceparadiddle im guessing Han's death
I watched the movie in 2018 so that doesn't bother me.
💀
@@Jasdenvideos oh yeah....i forgot about that. It's incredible how little i care these days
Clever touch making that one QR Code miiverse post a link to your channel. Yes I checked.
2:16 there was also a beanstalk level which skipped you over to world 5 in main game
Only 20 seconds in and the jokes are all on point lmao
32:03 A volcano visible from anywhere and the highest point, sounds a lot like Death Mountain in Hyrule and Woodfall in Termina (I guess Termina is upside down from Hyrule lol, though I think Snowfall is higher up than both Woodfall AND Death Moutain, which doesn't line up with Hyrule at all).
If I remember correctly a fun fact thing in smash says that if whalemer shows up, then the strong current appears but if he doesn’t, nothing really happens.
wrecking crew does have a limit to the number of floors, but it takes over an hour to get through.
i think the wrecking crew floors are not infinite, there is just a lot of them, so you can run out if you turn timer off and break them without attacking each other
A youtuber called PK Beats actually made a video which answers that question, go watch that video to know the truth!
36:59 I love that the qr code is just a link to your channel
These stages are really cool!
This is unbelievably underrated. Earned a sub
Woolly World was one of my favorite stages on Wii U and I was anticipating that it would return in Ultimate with new, updated graphics - extremely disappointed that it didn't return.
I seriously hope that modders would be able to port it and retexture it into Ultimate.
Or maybe there will be some kind of DLC expansion to Ultimate that adds every other past stage along with some new stages, as well other new content like new modes.
36:55 The QR code…. It’s something else! 😅
2:16 The beanstalk was actually initially based on Sparkling Waters - A: Skyward Stalk in the main Mario Bros U game as the hidden level you can go to from the secret exit in world 1
Orbital Gate and Jungle Hijinx not making a comeback was a sin
Jungle Hijinxs doesn't work with the Stage Transition mechanic.
It would not be used in that mode.
miiverse died so the stage creation will be reborn in smash 4.5
Kinda wish Jungle Hyjinx came back in Ultimate…
Jungle Hijinx, Orbital Gate Assault, Poke Floats, Pac-Maze and Rainbow Road being cut is super hurtful tbh
Fr it was only like, the most unique and cool stage in Smash history
@@SchnookieCespecially rainbow road
Stage Morph prevented it from working
Really love that stage as well.
36:56 Ok that QR Code link to your channel is hilarious
Great Cave Offensive should have been a Return to Dream Land stage if they couldn't do an Epic Yarn stage. It just makes it even more obvious Sakurai is biased towards his Kirby games even thought he tried denouncing it by saying "It's based on the Super Star Ultra version".
The ShyGuys become actual playable characters in Mario Kart 8 without playing the game online. So them showing up as the racers in the Mario Circuit stage for Smash 4 is a reference to that.
I thought this was going to be a 40 minute video on the miiverse stage
One additional note about Gamer: Sometimes an old man walks by the window and pretends to be the mother. He also opens the window but his disguise becomes obvious by then.
Some things worth noting with the Palutena's Temple stage is that, while parts of it like the Waterfall and the upper right platforms are unique to the level, there are two sections that directly reference the 20th chapter of Uprising.
Firstly, the underground areas at the bottom left are nods to the Strongarm Centurion encounter where there were two lines of statues in the room (which you can faintly see in one of the doorways), and the dungeon section of the same chapter just below that room (albeit said dungeon maze was a different building in the chapter).
Secondly, the rising platform in front of the Palutena Statue is a nod to the arena where you fought Palutena and the Chaos Kin, starting in front of the temple before the platform began rising into the sky.
The rest of the level, however, is totally original, with parts like the upper right area being more in line with the Skyworld Stage from Brawl.
You forgot to mention that the Wii Balance Board is a little guy in the original Wii Fit game. Thats not just a smash thing.
Two variable:
1) Miiverse stage
2) Palutena main
I would sweat whenever my parents would watch me play.
I think the wrecking crew stage does have an end to the floors in some spirit battles and event matches
A youtuber called PK Beats actually made a video which answers that question, go watch that video to know the truth!
My favorite moment about the Miiverse stage was that I can use it in tournaments, and players enjoyed the background.
28:01 The Wii Fit Balance Board was given a personality in the Wii Fit games. I know for sure that it was in Wii Fit U, but I don’t know about prior games.
I downloaded the 3DS controller for Smash 4 before it becomes impossible.
No, there actually was an animated Balance Board in Wii Fit. I can't remember where it was used, but it would talk to you and stuff.
Here before aaronitmar changes the title
Me too
Me 3
He really should make it more obvious it's a Stage Origins video
@@CoolPlayersVic yeah I thought it was a video on one stage and was very confused when I saw the video length
Same
0:19 Really? You HAD to bring up that stage.
Mii verse and pictochat were the funniest stages, I've never laughed so hard cause of the dumb things people write or draw on it
You forgot the yellow submarine looking moving platforms in Mushroom Kingdom U
Those said platforms were part of Roy's bossfight
Lol the qr code in the miiverse part takes you to his channel page 😂
They didn't think this stage through
1:36 That's not how "meringue" is pronounced. It's a French word and supposed to sound like "meh-rang".
I loved so many of these stages but Wuhu Island and Miiverse were some of my absolute favourites, some of the stuff you'd see on Miiverse were just so weird it's great
The Great Cave Offensive looks amazing and makes me want a Return to Dreamland styled 3D 2D remake of Super Star Ultra. But that will probably never happen, here’s hoping though.
I honestly want to see Pyrosphere return sometime. Now that stage hazards are able to be turned off now... Maybe this stage would make a good competitive stage?
But what about Ridley?
(33:40) The curved level is still parallel. You can have parallel curves.
These were the best of times. The Miiverse era. When Nintendo encouraged shitposting.
Gosh i miss smash 4... weirdly enough, I liked it more than ultimate. It's where I really became a smash fan.
Still strange how Warioware has a better stage with stealth elements than the Metal Gear stage
35:50 Actually, the designs of Ms. Pac-Man and Pac-Baby (as well as Pac-Man himself) in the international version are based on their designs from the Pac-Man cartoon, which is actually what Pac-Land is based on. The international version also featured Pac-Man's dog and cat, Chomp-Chomp and Sour Puss, running around, who are completely absent in the Japanese version as well as in Smash. One last difference to these characters' appearances is that in the Arcade Archives and Pac-Man Museum+ releases of Pac-Land, Ms. Pac-Man and Pac-Baby are replaced with Pac-Mom and Pac-Sis, due to copyright issues. I don't know how they managed to get away with Ms. Pac's cameo in Smash, but whatever.
35:37 actually the "international" version of Ms. Pac-Man was based on the old 80s Pac-Man cartoon by Hanna Barbara.
Kinda like how "Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine" used the old 1993 Sonic cartoon character designs.
It is such a shame Orbital Gate never came back to Ultimate.
It's arguably the prettiest stage in Wii U
2:46 "in smash, nabbit will appear with his big sack." 💀💀💀🤨
I'm just saying, they could bring back miiverse as a concept by filling the background with the landfill known as shared content.
I like how even Nintendo didn’t want to acknowledge this game enough to give it an interesting name
I got ideas for better names for Smash 4:
3DS = Super Smash Bros Duel
Wii U = Super Smash Bros Extreme
Honestly I think I picked the Miiverse stage most times cause I wanted to laugh at the dumb things people would post/ draw there. Gave me a good chuckle
Give a Smash Stage to the player and they will play it for a day.
Give the players the ability to make whatever they want and they will make Lewd 34 drawings of characters and SnooPINGAS usual I see all day.
28:03 The board was always an animated character in the game.
smash 4 feels just like the meme game of the franchise
I remember a video compiling these before it shut down like it’s yesterday😢
No affence but does anyone ever miss miiverse from time to time even on the WiiU and 3DS
I wish Jungle Hijinxs returned.
36:54 bowser jr: pingas! Haha😄
Pyrosphere was cool, unfortunate it didn’t come back.
Smash ultimate needs to bring these stages back.
36:54 I looked that QR code up, it sent me to your channel.
5:52 Or maybe it’s because Shy Guys were playable in Mario Kart 8.
36:57
You sneaky little man.
I just did the same thing, im glad someone else tried it out too