@@robert-trading-as-Bob69IIRC, the British dragged a pair of armed motor launches to one of Africa's large lakes during WW1. They defeated the larger German steamers with speed and manoeuvrability. Not often the RN went to war behind bullock teams
@@peterwebb8732 An ex-RN friend of mine, sadly long gone now, was part of an expedition pushing and pulling a boat across Africa during or after WWII. I only found out after his death when his son in Australia mentioned the unpublished memoirs he had. I'd love to find out why they did that. Interestingly, he served on HMS Nadder, which he claimed was the last British ship to be bombed from the air by the Japanese before the war ended. Side note: if you're invited to join a RN reunion, DON'T say "to Boy George" when they drink to the Queen.
Hi Chris I remember some 50yrs ago reading that it was 1927 that it was accepted that France and England would never go to war against each other. Cheers
Churchill in june 1940 did asked for a unique gvnmt uk plus France against Berlin ,capitale would have been London !! But too much anarchy in France with arrogant de Gaulle and german's complice Pétain.
The colonial period and the previous age of exploration are by far the most fascinating time in history... thousands of amazing and unique incidents and stories... thank you for sharing this one!
There is a Fashoda Street in the suburb of Unley in Adelaide, South Australia. My maternal grandparents' families both lived in that street in the early 1900's. John, Perth, Western Australia.
Excellent video as always but just one correction- It is the Blue Nile that is the dominant river. The little recognised Yellow Nile flows eastward from Chad reaching the White Nile on the western edge of the Sudd at Lake No. The Yellow Nile fascinated David Livingstone. Whilst based at the Northern end of Lake Tanganyika, news reached him of huge river to his west flowing northwards which lead him to mount an expedition down to what we now know to be the Lualaba which, further down, we know as the Congo. David had never seen the Yellow Nile in Sudan so only knew of it through tales of African travellers, and indeed, the Yellow Nile can rise up from time to time following flash storms in the Sahara is not much at all. It was Henry Stanley who later informed David of the geography of the Lualaba. The Blue Nile contributes nearly three-quarters of the water to the combined waters of the full Nile below Khartoum. Both rivers are highly seasonal and flow varies from year to year but the average flows are usually expressed as cubic metres or cubic feet per second so, in a typical year the average flow rate of the White Nile at the confluence is in the region 900 cubic metres per seconds whilst the Blue Nile averages about 2,350 cubic metres per second. Although the Egyptians frequently scream blue murder when anyone else threatens to, OR DOES, interfere with the Niles above Egypt, short of building a dam many times bigger than the biggest dam currently existing anywhere in the World and cutting a massive canal to divert the waters of the Nile to the Red Sea (and why would anyone propose such a ludicrous scheme), NOTHING can be done to stop the waters of Nile (short of a bit of evaporation) from reaching Egypt. Without doubt, the Fashoda incident was a clash between French ambitions for an East-West corridor across Africa. on the one hand .... and on the other hand, British ambitions for a "Cape to Cairo" corridor. Although Marchand set off BEFORE the Italians were given a good thrashing by the Abyssinians in 1896, the French knew about it by the time Marchand had reached Fashoda and maybe, they fancied trying their luck there as well, the Italians having retired hurt from the field. Other than with some kind of three way condominium status (Egypt, Britain and the French) in Sudan, there couldn't be both and it was the French who blinked first. The Egyptian interests were very important. It must be remembered that the civil government of Egypt remained under the control of the Egyptian monarchy established by Ali Pasha. Britain became the military occupier for no other reason than to keep the French out. Technically, Sudan was a British Egyptian condominium until 1956, which, outside of the few major settlements, the territory was effectively controlled by perpetually warring tribes of illiterate nomadic slave-trading pastoralists. To this very day, Sudan remains a territory of constant rape, pillage and genocide.
Théophile Delcassé was a key player in a peaceful resolution of this affair. By acknowledging British supremacy over Sudan and Egypt he obtained British support for french influence in Morocco. Support which came useful during the later Tanger and Agadir crisis. King Edward's charm helped a lot to heal the crisis. The Parisians shouted "Vive les Boers" to greet him but he won them around eventually.
@@TheHistoryChap You are very welcome. I remember listening to your D-DAY special on my way to the 80y celebrations. Please keep up the good work. Cheers from the other side of the Channel
Thanks for these videos on little known episodes in history. I never knew about this confrontation! But a 2000 mile trek across the middle of Africa!!!!!
Chris, I was just thinking how different history could have been if one little thing had changed during this time. How very different the world would look than what we know now. Well done my friend, kudos to you and Endeavor to persevere as Chief Dan George once said.
It was really a time where a small incident in a faraway place could light a match to a global war, thinking of Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo or start of the Crimean War as well. It takes a lot more today.
I never knew that this incident ever occurred. Thank you for teaching me something new. I am glad the two countries were able to put this behind them and work together
An informative and entertaining description of this oft forgotten incident. I do remember it described briefly in my European history course in high school.
I'm gratefully amazed of finding the Fashoda Incident these days, here, and so clearly detailed. I remember my last year of high-school, where everybody had to do a presentation about something historical, it could be a fact, a place, etc. I choosed the prelude of WW1 (my grandfather fought in the Italian Alps) and Fashoda (Fachoda then) Incident was my main and opening topic (ending in the Archduke murder). It was 30 years ago and I still remember that alf of the class room almost fell asleep. Excellent video.
My grandad was at Omdurman. He was in the Lincolnshire Regiment but said he for some reasoon was on one of the gunboats during the battle. He also said he was at Fashoda and was not inpressed by the French force. Perhap he had stayed on the gunboat. He said at the time there was a cartoon he saw. Can't remeber all the details but it went something like this. It showed the British lion at a dinner table knife and fork in hand with a little French soldier on the table. The caption was "We dined on Dervishes at Omdurman and this must be desert.
Far from the last time France and Britain nearly went to war. For a start the various operations against Vichy Army units, and in 1945! Nearly a war between Britain and the DeGaul government too
There is a Fashoda St in Melbourne, always wondered where the name came from, but the time makes my fairly confident that it is named after this incident.
Great episode ❤ this could be amazing tv series or a one off tv movie, the British fighting in Sudan and the French pushing to Sudan with the political fallout.
Thank you Chris, once again an interesting telling of a hitherto unknown subject to me. As a South African I can appreciate how a war between Britain and France in 1898 would have served to damper the ambitions Rhodes and others had for the Boer republics. Another what if....
As usual, an excellent analysis and presentation. Thank you! I remember a quote of which I could not find its source, apparently, Kaiser Wilhelm II said to a courtier/friend: "Salisbury has let go a great opportunity and all because Queen Victoria loves to go to Biarritz" (LOL)
I had heard of the Fashoda Incident. I probably read about it in a book I got for my birthday 30 years ago about the scramble for Africa. Sadly, I'd forgotten the details. Thanks for reminding me of what actually happened.
Right, that does it, I've delayed myself for long long enough now, and as I'm on a bit of a break from watching TV shows for a while, I'm gonna FINALLY get an absolute damn move on with watching those video topics you've mentioned of once again, Chris old bean, concerning General Charles Gordon and the failed expedition to rescue him from Khartoum, as well as the Red River River Expedition of 1870 too, at LONG long last, as those older videos of yours, as well as, AGAIN I need to get SUCH a move on with just seeing them, the ones of the Boer War of 1899-1902, the Zula campaign, AND the Crimean War, FGS. In the meantime however, well once again, and I actually looked this one up on Wikipedia earlier in advance to you updating, I thank ya so much indeed for a history lesson of which I had absolutely no knowledge about whatsoever until you announced it yesterday as today's topic, and certainly THANK GOD for cooler heads in all this, them being Marchand, Théophile Delcassé, French President Faure, AND our boy General Kitchener, plus also the Russian Tsar, cos with all that tension and clamoring for war by most in both countries, and us Brits mobilizing our fleet ready for such a possible thing, this little footnote of a thing at Fashoda could very well have seen a full out war between us and our much needed in the not too distant future at the time ally France, who we absolutely needed as a friend and ally in both World Wars against Germany, first when it was under the Kaiser and then under history's most monstrous and evil figure ever still to this very day Hitler, and certainly for foreseeing THAT, Germany as the more iminent and powerful threat to France, Théophile Delcassé definitely deserves the much needed credit, plus for establishing the friendship bond between us. I would definitely compare THIS, the Foshoda incident, to the near miss between us Union Jack loyalists and the Yanks of the Pig War in 1859 for sure IMO. Well done and thank you once more, Chris old bean, you really do know just how to establish yourself as such a RUclipsr superstar on here, don't ya, what with the amazing videos you continue to give as weekly as possible. So, wonder what your next great topic coverage is gonna be for next week? Let us know ASAP, won't ya
Excellent and very deliberate video, Chris, as usual. I agree with you about conseguences of a war for Fashoda: a very probabily French defeat and consequently an important change in European political balance whit Great Britain ( and Germany ) stronger and France ( and Russia ) weaker.. An interesting scenario, regarding allianceses in a future world war ( as you underline ). The political situation between 1890 and 1910 was, i think, more complex and fluid than we can immaginate whit the help of hindsigth.
Please can you start a Napoleonic wars series, maybe with a special video on the Peninsular war and figures like Horatio Nelson and Wellington? I love your videos they are really helpful :)
Just found your channel. Love the content. Have to make one correction, the white Nile is most definitely not bigger or more powerful when compared to the blue Nile. The blue nile accounts for over 60% of the flow in the Nile, whereas the white Nile provides less than 15%
Wouldn't be the first and it wouldn't be the last...I havent looked through your catalogue but I'm curious if you've covered the Mers-el-Kébir Incident.
Great video and in answer to your question. Yes it could happen and did previously. In 1754 in the backwoods of North America, a Young George Washington started a similar incident with Fort Necessity and sparked a World War The Seven Years War
Those wide Parisian boulevards were said to have been influenced by Southport's Lord Street after Napoleon III stayed there in exile. There's no absolute concrete proof but Lord Street was constructed before the Champs Elysees and it was Napoleon III who orchestrated the reconstruction of Paris in the mid 19th century.
It hasn't been forgotten in France. I was watching the news channel France 24 recently and it was mentioned in a discussion about Anglo-French relations. De Gaulle said that the most traumatic incident of his childhood was the Fashoda Incident. Writers have claimed that he never got over Fashoda and he also blamed Britain and the U.S. for undermining France and taking away its empire after WW2. Britain and France nearly went to war in Syria in 1945, but again the French backed down.
how weird , never heard of this, but was looking into DeGaulle today and that referred to the Levant Crisis , so read up on that and that was labelled as a worse crisis for France than the Fashoda Incident at the the as it both involved losing to Britain, and then straight away a new video on it.
Ah, the Hydraulic Empire (on a French budget) Strikes Back scenario. If the Tsar had given an ounce of support to the French request, even if only verbally, the French might well have fought against Britain, pushing Britain and their old ally against France; Germany, together again. Would the antagonism against the Boer Republics have continued, leading to the 2nd Boer War in 1899? If Britain and Germany had made common cause against France and Russia, either the Boer War would not have taken place, or a limited action by a small British force would gave been defeated by the Boers again like in 1880 -1881. The Kaiser wouldn't have been encouraging Kruger against the Britush, though, and not supplying the Republics with Mauser rifles.
All they needed was nucular weapons. One presumes this was the result of too much peace for too long. 16 years later everybody got their war, but they really ducked the bullet, luckily for them. Incredible story of a wild time. By all means, cover the Fenian raids and, dare I say, gorgeous maps.
In the aftermath of the Fashoda incident, wasn't there, in exchange, a British understanding with France in regards to French ambitions in Morocco? There's another story in that corner of Africa once the Heinies decided to spit in the soup.
Not a bad exposition of the Fashoda incident (which is well known by anyone who knows anything about Sudan), but your comment near the end about the name Fashoda disappearing is not true. Although you are correct that the nearby town in what is now the new nation of South Sudan is called Kodok, nevertheless Fashoda remains the seat of the reth (king) of the Collo (Shilluk) tribe. Thanks for an interesting video.
It would have been a interesting war. Frankly it would have been interesting seeing to continental powers during it out at this time period. Seeing if the ships would have work like they should have. Seeing who had better rifles and tactics. Too bad
"The _last time_ that Britain and France nearly went to war!" Nobody ever wants to mention all the fighting in WW2 between Britain and France in Algeria, Gibraltar, Senegal, Gabon, Syria, Morocco, Madagascar...
To be fair that is only a partially relevant point considering that a huge part of the French were on the same side as Britain during WWII, when one country is divided into two camps their allies are bound to be both for and against them and then history will inevitably be written by the Victors and in the case of WWII the Allies won and Vichy France has since been deemed illegitimate and therefore irrelavent which in effect negates any claim to Britain and "France" (per se) fighting.
"In 500 years of British foreign policy, we allied with the French against the Germans, with the Prussians against the French, with the Spanish against the French, with the Russians against the Germans, with the Italians against the Austrians, with the French against the Austrians, and the French against the Dutch." Sir Humphrey Applebee.
Very informative, and interesting story, and one could image what would have happened if Britain and France went to ear. As it is not just Europe that would have been the battle zone, Asia, North Africa, Pacific, Caribbean, perhaps a revolt in Canada ! I am sure Germany would have used the situation to land invaded France as most of its troops would be either aboard, or maning coastal defences. Would Britain want to take calais back, or would French invade the channel Islands, who knows !
Thanks. Delcasse's Geostrategic assessment was the more pertinent one, especially since a growing number of future British authorities were studying in Germany. France had to wean the UK off of Germany and a war was not the way to do it.
Interesting that this relatively minor incident had such a huge influence on future alliances and outcomes. Well told. Thank you.
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2000 miles across Africa dragging a boat is quite an achievement.
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Not the first or the last time that's happened... ok, maybe the first.
@@robert-trading-as-Bob69IIRC, the British dragged a pair of armed motor launches to one of Africa's large lakes during WW1. They defeated the larger German steamers with speed and manoeuvrability.
Not often the RN went to war behind bullock teams
@@peterwebb8732 An ex-RN friend of mine, sadly long gone now, was part of an expedition pushing and pulling a boat across Africa during or after WWII.
I only found out after his death when his son in Australia mentioned the unpublished memoirs he had.
I'd love to find out why they did that.
Interestingly, he served on HMS Nadder, which he claimed was the last British ship to be bombed from the air by the Japanese before the war ended.
Side note: if you're invited to join a RN reunion, DON'T say "to Boy George" when they drink to the Queen.
Bringing champagne as well. The French know how to do things.
Hi Chris I remember some 50yrs ago reading that it was 1927 that it was accepted that France and England would never go to war against each other. Cheers
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Churchill in june 1940 did asked for a unique gvnmt uk plus France against Berlin ,capitale would have been London !! But too much anarchy in France with arrogant de Gaulle and german's complice Pétain.
I live these forgotten 'Battles', I love your clear insights too, brilliant video Sir!
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I've never heard this story before! Thank you for another great video!
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Almost forgotten " fashoda incident"? I'd never heard of it. Another day of enlightment for me. Thank you as always.
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The colonial period and the previous age of exploration are by far the most fascinating time in history... thousands of amazing and unique incidents and stories... thank you for sharing this one!
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Thank you for doing this video, it’s not a battle I was aware of.
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There is a Fashoda Street in the suburb of Unley in Adelaide, South Australia. My maternal grandparents' families both lived in that street in the early 1900's. John, Perth, Western Australia.
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Excellent video as always but just one correction- It is the Blue Nile that is the dominant river. The little recognised Yellow Nile flows eastward from Chad reaching the White Nile on the western edge of the Sudd at Lake No. The Yellow Nile fascinated David Livingstone. Whilst based at the Northern end of Lake Tanganyika, news reached him of huge river to his west flowing northwards which lead him to mount an expedition down to what we now know to be the Lualaba which, further down, we know as the Congo. David had never seen the Yellow Nile in Sudan so only knew of it through tales of African travellers, and indeed, the Yellow Nile can rise up from time to time following flash storms in the Sahara is not much at all. It was Henry Stanley who later informed David of the geography of the Lualaba.
The Blue Nile contributes nearly three-quarters of the water to the combined waters of the full Nile below Khartoum. Both rivers are highly seasonal and flow varies from year to year but the average flows are usually expressed as cubic metres or cubic feet per second so, in a typical year the average flow rate of the White Nile at the confluence is in the region 900 cubic metres per seconds whilst the Blue Nile averages about 2,350 cubic metres per second.
Although the Egyptians frequently scream blue murder when anyone else threatens to, OR DOES, interfere with the Niles above Egypt, short of building a dam many times bigger than the biggest dam currently existing anywhere in the World and cutting a massive canal to divert the waters of the Nile to the Red Sea (and why would anyone propose such a ludicrous scheme), NOTHING can be done to stop the waters of Nile (short of a bit of evaporation) from reaching Egypt. Without doubt, the Fashoda incident was a clash between French ambitions for an East-West corridor across Africa. on the one hand .... and on the other hand, British ambitions for a "Cape to Cairo" corridor. Although Marchand set off BEFORE the Italians were given a good thrashing by the Abyssinians in 1896, the French knew about it by the time Marchand had reached Fashoda and maybe, they fancied trying their luck there as well, the Italians having retired hurt from the field. Other than with some kind of three way condominium status (Egypt, Britain and the French) in Sudan, there couldn't be both and it was the French who blinked first. The Egyptian interests were very important. It must be remembered that the civil government of Egypt remained under the control of the Egyptian monarchy established by Ali Pasha. Britain became the military occupier for no other reason than to keep the French out. Technically, Sudan was a British Egyptian condominium until 1956, which, outside of the few major settlements, the territory was effectively controlled by perpetually warring tribes of illiterate nomadic slave-trading pastoralists. To this very day, Sudan remains a territory of constant rape, pillage and genocide.
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Chris hitting the cricket ball out of the ground again - well done great video
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Théophile Delcassé was a key player in a peaceful resolution of this affair. By acknowledging British supremacy over Sudan and Egypt he obtained British support for french influence in Morocco. Support which came useful during the later Tanger and Agadir crisis.
King Edward's charm helped a lot to heal the crisis. The Parisians shouted "Vive les Boers" to greet him but he won them around eventually.
Yes, I read a book a while ago about King Edward, he did a lot to cement British French relations.
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Please keep up the good work. Cheers from the other side of the Channel
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Thanks for these videos on little known episodes in history. I never knew about this confrontation! But a 2000 mile trek across the middle of Africa!!!!!
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Chris, I was just thinking how different history could have been if one little thing had changed during this time. How very different the world would look than what we know now. Well done my friend, kudos to you and Endeavor to persevere as Chief Dan George once said.
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It was really a time where a small incident in a faraway place could light a match to a global war, thinking of Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo or start of the Crimean War as well. It takes a lot more today.
Interesting point. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Love your Victorian era European colonial rivalry videos Chris
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Such a raucus over such a small far away matter. Thanks for the video, learned so much.
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I never knew that this incident ever occurred. Thank you for teaching me something new. I am glad the two countries were able to put this behind them and work together
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An informative and entertaining description of this oft forgotten incident. I do remember it described briefly in my European history course in high school.
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Fascinating! Never knew anything of this. Great to hear of little known events!
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I'm gratefully amazed of finding the Fashoda Incident these days, here, and so clearly detailed. I remember my last year of high-school, where everybody had to do a presentation about something historical, it could be a fact, a place, etc. I choosed the prelude of WW1 (my grandfather fought in the Italian Alps) and Fashoda (Fachoda then) Incident was my main and opening topic (ending in the Archduke murder). It was 30 years ago and I still remember that alf of the class room almost fell asleep.
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Astonishing. I never heard this story before. Well told. Amazing.
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Great episode, and great to hear about an incident which isn't really known, but could have had a major impact on European history 👏
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I love the color poster used for this video
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What a fantastic incident, and vibrantly narrated. Thank you for this! 👍
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Never heard of this incident. Excellent presentation.
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My grandad was at Omdurman. He was in the Lincolnshire Regiment but said he for some reasoon was on one of the gunboats during the battle. He also said he was at Fashoda and was not inpressed by the French force. Perhap he had stayed on the gunboat. He said at the time there was a cartoon he saw. Can't remeber all the details but it went something like this. It showed the British lion at a dinner table knife and fork in hand with a little French soldier on the table. The caption was "We dined on Dervishes at Omdurman and this must be desert.
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Well done! Very interesting. Thank You.
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Excellent video. Thank you.
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Another great video about a very interesting incident, thanks for sharing.
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These insights into “forgotten” incidents in history are great🏴🦄🏴🦄
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Far from the last time France and Britain nearly went to war. For a start the various operations against Vichy Army units, and in 1945! Nearly a war between Britain and the DeGaul government too
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Another, very interesting story, Sir!
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Wow what an amazing character Marchand.. a movie about his life would be amazing.
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Thanks for another fine presentation.
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Very interesting and detailed . I really enjoy your episodes
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Minor correction. The bigger river is Blue Nile (70%).
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Always enjoy learning something new. There really needs to be a long TV series about all of the challenges the Suez Canal brought to the colonial era.
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Very well told, and another fine addition to your superb Sudan playlist.
I'm left wondering if you have any more tales to add to this collection?
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There is a Fashoda St in Melbourne, always wondered where the name came from, but the time makes my fairly confident that it is named after this incident.
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Awesome telling of a piece of history that had several dramatic repercussions in history.
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Thank you. Very enlightening. I particularly valued your analysis of the incident on world affairs, the entente cordiale..
Great episode ❤ this could be amazing tv series or a one off tv movie, the British fighting in Sudan and the French pushing to Sudan with the political fallout.
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Thank you Chris, once again an interesting telling of a hitherto unknown subject to me. As a South African I can appreciate how a war between Britain and France in 1898 would have served to damper the ambitions Rhodes and others had for the Boer republics. Another what if....
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❤cool .I'll save video for evening time
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Terrific video - more like it please
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As usual, an excellent analysis and presentation. Thank you! I remember a quote of which I could not find its source, apparently, Kaiser Wilhelm II said to a courtier/friend: "Salisbury has let go a great opportunity and all because Queen Victoria loves to go to Biarritz" (LOL)
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Winston Churchill too.
15:56 Cartoon shows British PM Lord Salisbury and the Duke of Wellington(!) perplexed at the stubbornness of the French.
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TY. Forgotten moves that have changed the world. This type of history is the strong suit I think many are here for...or me for certain TY.
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Great video and an interesting story! Thanks for sharing this!
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I had heard of the Fashoda Incident. I probably read about it in a book I got for my birthday 30 years ago about the scramble for Africa. Sadly, I'd forgotten the details. Thanks for reminding me of what actually happened.
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Thank you for an excellent, balanced and thoughtful video on this too often-forgotten affair.
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Another great video!!!
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Had never heard of this before well done yet another very informative video
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Great story brilliantly told.
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An excellent video very informative
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Definitely a few "what if"s, here... Well told, Sir!
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Right, that does it, I've delayed myself for long long enough now, and as I'm on a bit of a break from watching TV shows for a while, I'm gonna FINALLY get an absolute damn move on with watching those video topics you've mentioned of once again, Chris old bean, concerning General Charles Gordon and the failed expedition to rescue him from Khartoum, as well as the Red River River Expedition of 1870 too, at LONG long last, as those older videos of yours, as well as, AGAIN I need to get SUCH a move on with just seeing them, the ones of the Boer War of 1899-1902, the Zula campaign, AND the Crimean War, FGS.
In the meantime however, well once again, and I actually looked this one up on Wikipedia earlier in advance to you updating, I thank ya so much indeed for a history lesson of which I had absolutely no knowledge about whatsoever until you announced it yesterday as today's topic, and certainly THANK GOD for cooler heads in all this, them being Marchand, Théophile Delcassé, French President Faure, AND our boy General Kitchener, plus also the Russian Tsar, cos with all that tension and clamoring for war by most in both countries, and us Brits mobilizing our fleet ready for such a possible thing, this little footnote of a thing at Fashoda could very well have seen a full out war between us and our much needed in the not too distant future at the time ally France, who we absolutely needed as a friend and ally in both World Wars against Germany, first when it was under the Kaiser and then under history's most monstrous and evil figure ever still to this very day Hitler, and certainly for foreseeing THAT, Germany as the more iminent and powerful threat to France, Théophile Delcassé definitely deserves the much needed credit, plus for establishing the friendship bond between us. I would definitely compare THIS, the Foshoda incident, to the near miss between us Union Jack loyalists and the Yanks of the Pig War in 1859 for sure IMO.
Well done and thank you once more, Chris old bean, you really do know just how to establish yourself as such a RUclipsr superstar on here, don't ya, what with the amazing videos you continue to give as weekly as possible. So, wonder what your next great topic coverage is gonna be for next week? Let us know ASAP, won't ya
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A fascinating look into the shifting "alliances of convenience" among the European powers
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Excellent and very deliberate video, Chris, as usual.
I agree with you about conseguences of a war for Fashoda: a very probabily French defeat and consequently an important change in European political balance whit Great Britain ( and Germany ) stronger and France ( and Russia ) weaker..
An interesting scenario, regarding allianceses in a future world war ( as you underline ).
The political situation between 1890 and 1910 was, i think, more complex and fluid than we can immaginate whit the help of hindsigth.
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Excellent and Outstanding!!!!
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Please can you start a Napoleonic wars series, maybe with a special video on the Peninsular war and figures like Horatio Nelson and Wellington? I love your videos they are really helpful :)
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Bravo Zulu (Well Done) Chris. Love the colonial Africa videos.
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Excellent M8.
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Astonishing details at the crux of the Twentieth century .
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Just found your channel. Love the content. Have to make one correction, the white Nile is most definitely not bigger or more powerful when compared to the blue Nile. The blue nile accounts for over 60% of the flow in the Nile, whereas the white Nile provides less than 15%
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Another little known story, perfectly told as usual 😊
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Wouldn't be the first and it wouldn't be the last...I havent looked through your catalogue but I'm curious if you've covered the Mers-el-Kébir Incident.
Not yet, but it is on my list. Just so many stories to tell!
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Yet another example of politicians willing to risk the lives of other people for pride.
Has alwqays been the way & I'm sure it will be so in the future.
Great video and in answer to your question. Yes it could happen and did previously. In 1754 in the backwoods of North America, a Young George Washington started a similar incident with Fort Necessity and sparked a World War The Seven Years War
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A great story, well told!
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What would have happened? The inevitable defeat of the French would have destroyed the Third Republic 42 years before it eventually happened.
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Those wide Parisian boulevards were said to have been influenced by Southport's Lord Street after Napoleon III stayed there in exile. There's no absolute concrete proof but Lord Street was constructed before the Champs Elysees and it was Napoleon III who orchestrated the reconstruction of Paris in the mid 19th century.
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It hasn't been forgotten in France. I was watching the news channel France 24 recently and it was mentioned in a discussion about Anglo-French relations. De Gaulle said that the most traumatic incident of his childhood was the Fashoda Incident. Writers have claimed that he never got over Fashoda and he also blamed Britain and the U.S. for undermining France and taking away its empire after WW2. Britain and France nearly went to war in Syria in 1945, but again the French backed down.
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how weird , never heard of this, but was looking into DeGaulle today and that referred to the Levant Crisis , so read up on that and that was labelled as a worse crisis for France than the Fashoda Incident at the the as it both involved losing to Britain, and then straight away a new video on it.
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Good old Garrett Woseley, if they had travel points back in the day, Garrett would certainly be racking them up.
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Fabulous. ✌️
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so much for the Entente cordiale-🤣
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Well done Mr. Green, what if indeed, could have been ww1 in 1898 with alliances being very different.
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Ah, the Hydraulic Empire (on a French budget) Strikes Back scenario.
If the Tsar had given an ounce of support to the French request, even if only verbally, the French might well have fought against Britain, pushing Britain and their old ally against France; Germany, together again.
Would the antagonism against the Boer Republics have continued, leading to the 2nd Boer War in 1899?
If Britain and Germany had made common cause against France and Russia, either the Boer War would not have taken place, or a limited action by a small British force would gave been defeated by the Boers again like in 1880 -1881.
The Kaiser wouldn't have been encouraging Kruger against the Britush, though, and not supplying the Republics with Mauser rifles.
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00:16:40 Isn't it funny how the French made Britannia look just like Maggie Thatcher!
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It was very interesting, thanks for the upload.
All they needed was nucular weapons. One presumes this was the result of too much peace for too long. 16 years later everybody got their war, but they really ducked the bullet, luckily for them. Incredible story of a wild time.
By all means, cover the Fenian raids and, dare I say, gorgeous maps.
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What a What If it could have been!
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3:20 Chinese Checkers on a large scale?
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Am pretty sure the blue Nile is the bigger one. The white Nile merely is longer
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In the aftermath of the Fashoda incident, wasn't there, in exchange, a British understanding with France in regards to French ambitions in Morocco? There's another story in that corner of Africa once the Heinies decided to spit in the soup.
Not sure that there was actually an agreement, but I am happy to learn about it if there was.
Was Joseph Chamberlain a relative of Neville Chamberlain?
Yes, his father. Might do something on Joe Chamberlain or the family in the future.
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What do you mean "a Britain v France war"? By 1898 there had been several.
Good bit of history though and nice video.
The title was a “the nearly Britain v France war”
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Not a bad exposition of the Fashoda incident (which is well known by anyone who knows anything about Sudan), but your comment near the end about the name Fashoda disappearing is not true. Although you are correct that the nearby town in what is now the new nation of South Sudan is called Kodok, nevertheless Fashoda remains the seat of the reth (king) of the Collo (Shilluk) tribe. Thanks for an interesting video.
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It would have been a interesting war. Frankly it would have been interesting seeing to continental powers during it out at this time period. Seeing if the ships would have work like they should have. Seeing who had better rifles and tactics. Too bad
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Fascinating
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"The _last time_ that Britain and France nearly went to war!"
Nobody ever wants to mention all the fighting in WW2 between Britain and France in Algeria, Gibraltar, Senegal, Gabon, Syria, Morocco, Madagascar...
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To be fair that is only a partially relevant point considering that a huge part of the French were on the same side as Britain during WWII, when one country is divided into two camps their allies are bound to be both for and against them and then history will inevitably be written by the Victors and in the case of WWII the Allies won and Vichy France has since been deemed illegitimate and therefore irrelavent which in effect negates any claim to Britain and "France" (per se) fighting.
"In 500 years of British foreign policy, we allied with the French against the Germans, with the Prussians against the French, with the Spanish against the French, with the Russians against the Germans, with the Italians against the Austrians, with the French against the Austrians, and the French against the Dutch."
Sir Humphrey Applebee.
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Very informative, and interesting story, and one could image what would have happened if Britain and France went to ear. As it is not just Europe that would have been the battle zone, Asia, North Africa, Pacific, Caribbean, perhaps a revolt in Canada !
I am sure Germany would have used the situation to land invaded France as most of its troops would be either aboard, or maning coastal defences.
Would Britain want to take calais back, or would French invade the channel Islands, who knows !
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Thanks. Delcasse's Geostrategic assessment was the more pertinent one, especially since a growing number of future British authorities were studying in Germany. France had to wean the UK off of Germany and a war was not the way to do it.
Yes, the Kaiser was trying to get closer to Britain (after the Kruger telegram).
Throughout history, how many times have England and France gone to war against each other?
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