The unspoken truth about getting into the Ivy League.

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
  • As difficult and as exciting it is to get into the Ivy League, there are some unspoken things that need to be addressed. Whether or not you are a student looking to get into this fabled land, we can all agree... the Ivy League sits in our collective subconscious as this magical portal to the land of dreams. This image is not accidental but in fact, carefully curated over centuries. Join me while we unveil some of the unspoken truths behind this mirage and hopefully in doing so, empower you to become the best version of yourself regardless of circumstance.
    FIRST UNSPOKEN TRUTH: The Ivy League is just a "Business"
    SECOND UNSPOKEN TRUTH: You Don't Need the Ivy League
    THIRD UNSPOKEN TRUTH: Getting in is 50% a Marketing Exercise
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Комментарии • 347

  • @kats4319
    @kats4319 5 месяцев назад +47

    Ivy League master student here. I actually completely disagree with this video. I was a top student in my state university, couldn’t get a decent job because good firms simply don’t recruit there and won’t even interview. Went abroad, got ok-ish job and worked on making my MBA application flawless. 4 years after undergrad degree, got my Ivy MBA, countless job offers more than 5x higher salary than what I was offered before, incredible lifetime friends and also a global network of alumni. The level of teaching was on a much higher level and the contribution of classmates invaluable. My first employer re-paid my entire MBA tuition. Ivy diploma was definitely worth it for me.

    • @ij9375
      @ij9375 Месяц назад +3

      Insightful comment 💯

    • @tommydavidwalker2445
      @tommydavidwalker2445 Месяц назад +3

      What state school was it

    • @minaamk9821
      @minaamk9821 23 дня назад +3

      I think thats what his point of the video was, that the IVY league stamp makes everything better, just by the stamp look at all that happened to you.

  • @tonglu3699
    @tonglu3699 5 месяцев назад +688

    I used to want that Ivy League stamp of approval so badly. I recently heard a Harvard professor say that the most important value of getting a Harvard degree is you will never be impressed by a Harvard degree anymore. Well, my disillusionment came somewhat more indirectly - my graduate school advisor taught 7 years at Princeton before he went to my school for tenure. One semester I was his TA for a research methodology course. I told him that I understand how foundational this course is to understanding all social sciences, because I also took this course as an undergrad. He then told me that in his first year at Princeton, he taught this course and 1/3 of the class failed. He ended up giving those failing students Cs instead because he found out you had to fill out a huge amount of paperwork to even give a Princeton student a D, let alone failing one.

    • @craig6363
      @craig6363 5 месяцев назад +13

      After working with and seeing the research of some Harvard grads and other Ivy league grads, def was not impressed. I'm a methodologist by the way.

    • @craigwinters5724
      @craigwinters5724 5 месяцев назад +3

      You mean C-? Because that is below a 2.0 and is basically a failing grade since you must maintain a 2.0 average to remain in good standing. It looks like you passed them even though it may cause them to flunk out.

    • @tonglu3699
      @tonglu3699 5 месяцев назад

      @@craigwinters5724 I was in grad school in the early 2010s but my advisor’s story took place in the 1980s. Policies might not be the same back then. I didn’t pay that much attention to letter grades when I was in school, and it certainly means nothing to me now. I was on the interviewer side in the last few job interviews I was involved in. The only aspect I cared about of the candidates’ schooling was that I believe certain technical foundations require formal training and are hard to learn on the job. So I’d ask candidates whether they took certain key courses and test the depth of their understanding in those subjects.

    • @iambor1393
      @iambor1393 5 месяцев назад +4

      Keyword being average. So long as you don't score that low in every course you can still pass

    • @johncarr2333
      @johncarr2333 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, that random dubious anecdote was really helpful.

  • @EmilyFoxSeaton
    @EmilyFoxSeaton 5 месяцев назад +193

    You can write your own ticket after graduating from the ivy league because everyone is looking to hire people who go there -- not because of their brains, but because they come from a powerful family. I went to an ivy and I didn't know that. I got tons of recruiting interviews but no offers. They used the interviews to find out if I was connected. I was not. But I still had better opportunities because peopl just presumed I wouldn't have been at such a school unless I was connected.

    • @shhhyourtooloud257
      @shhhyourtooloud257 5 месяцев назад +5

      interesting! what kind of connections exactly do you think they were looking for?

    • @cassascorner611
      @cassascorner611 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@shhhyourtooloud257 Rich and powerful. Probably for their own ambitions.

    • @tricia007100
      @tricia007100 3 месяца назад +3

      It's a sick game. I had the same type of thing with the on campus interviews.

    • @EmilyFoxSeaton
      @EmilyFoxSeaton 3 месяца назад +3

      @@shhhyourtooloud257 Found out a C student friend was the son of my Congressman. Didn't have the same last name.

    • @legalfictionnaturalfact3969
      @legalfictionnaturalfact3969 2 месяца назад +2

      Emily, a lot of these people change their names so that the family can't be linked together. I've got a nice Ace up my sleeve on one of these families. :-)

  • @brothberg
    @brothberg 5 месяцев назад +365

    I've been involved in STEM education for years, and I went to MIT and Harvard. The truth is that if you go to a flagship state university, and you get into the honors program, you will get as good a STEM education as you would have in the Ivy League. Any you'll save l alot of money. This is not always true for graduate programs, which depend on the professor or lab you work with. But it's absolutely true for undergraduate degrees.
    I don't know about humanities programs.

    • @mujtabaalam5907
      @mujtabaalam5907 5 месяцев назад +30

      You won't always save money at a state school. The poorer you are, the cheaper Ivies are

    • @chickensalad3535
      @chickensalad3535 5 месяцев назад +5

      Ivies are more affordable and are prime for networking opportunities.

    • @happycamperds9917
      @happycamperds9917 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@mujtabaalam5907If you are academically successful enough to get into Ivy League you can probably get full tuition at some State collages.

    • @appa609
      @appa609 5 месяцев назад +9

      The reason you go to MIT etc. is you make a bunch of friends who will go on to get top tech jobs, you schmooze up to professors who are top in their field if you want to stay in academia, and 5 years after graduation you'll have a dozen firms begging you to take their 6 figure job.

    • @Jack-kf1tn
      @Jack-kf1tn 5 месяцев назад +1

      yeah but it will be 10x harder to get a better job due to competing forces. Better degrees equate to more success in the job market.

  • @user-zw6qp3se9s
    @user-zw6qp3se9s 5 месяцев назад +95

    As a senior applying to schools, this video made me feel seen. thank you and keep up the great videos

  • @R_Yasha
    @R_Yasha 5 месяцев назад +91

    Isn’t it time for us to understand that what really matters is what you accomplish through your work not the university you attended?

    • @jimmy13morrison
      @jimmy13morrison 5 месяцев назад +8

      What really matters is if you were born in a rich family or not

    • @Felipe_Ribeir0
      @Felipe_Ribeir0 5 месяцев назад +1

      Not so simple. While i agree that the money is the boss everywhere, there is a level of knowledge that must of us can get to just by doing really hard courses, the ones that can require more than we would like of weekly studies just to go through.
      I had this experience with undergrad subjects like calculus and linear algegra. I was able to see first hand how my course was a lot harder than from some friends studying the same subject elsewhere, and how i was struggling to pass the tests and wouldnt learn so much otherwise.

    • @jimmy13morrison
      @jimmy13morrison 5 месяцев назад +1

      @Felipe_Ribeir0 my point is that you dont get 200k a year as a senior executive right out of school because you had good grades. You get it because mommy or daddy is the boss

    • @R_Yasha
      @R_Yasha 5 месяцев назад

      @@jimmy13morrison Tbh it has its weight but it's not a crucial or the most important thing

  • @spuriustadius5034
    @spuriustadius5034 5 месяцев назад +116

    Students today have way more pressure than my generation. The stakes are so much higher. I wish these students (and their parents who are behind much of the pressure) would just try to find the "best fit" school rather than focus a ridiculous amount of attention on a handful of Ivy League schools. Ease off on "the prestige" a bit, and just find a place where you can get an excellent education and career launch.
    But instead, folks are now hiring consultants to coach their kids through the "Ivy" admission process (starting well before senior year). We've heard the horror stories on the news, but the sad truth is even when everything is above board and legit, too much pressure and misery gets piled on these kids. They can't afford to slip up even once. It's an ugly situation.

    • @erinm9445
      @erinm9445 5 месяцев назад +7

      I don't know that the stakes are actually any higher now than in the past. They just feel that way because of the way the culture piles on the pressure (aided and abetted--though mostly unintentionally--by parents).

    • @daysofend
      @daysofend 5 месяцев назад

      @@erinm9445 This generation needs external validation in whatever way possible. Modern culture, internationally, has created a cult around elite schools based on their history. Going there is the "easiest" way to get validated.

    • @coolboywawa8977
      @coolboywawa8977 4 месяца назад +3

      @@erinm9445 Nah it is because of the rising population and standards are getting higher especially from immigrant parents because of the sake of money and comeptetion . Something like htat

  • @strayorion2031
    @strayorion2031 5 месяцев назад +21

    Sometimes is a hard pill to swallow the fact that you wont have access to the same resources Ivy grads had, but its reassuring knowing ambition is a more important factor determining where you are going to end up

    • @dootscat3798
      @dootscat3798 22 дня назад

      Not true. The alumni and business connections of public ivies for example are outstanding.

  • @therealdeets
    @therealdeets 5 месяцев назад +27

    i already know that if this video was shared with every senior barely making it through the college admissions process, their perspective on ivy leagues (or just prestigious universities in general) would change A LOT. thank you for this video, i feel so seen

  • @fcuksg8698
    @fcuksg8698 21 день назад

    "Degrees, like laws, love, and most things that matter, have a price tag. Even a multimillionaire in Singapore, nearly dead, can buy an illegal kidney transplant and escape jail time, while the poor farmer who sold his kidney not only loses an organ but also faces years in prison and loses 500K SGD. If self-proclaimed 'zero corruption' Singapore can get away with such crimes, why can't US Ivy League do the same?"

  • @papa-pete
    @papa-pete 5 месяцев назад +44

    I’m attending an Ivy currently and personally I’ve found it to be the most affordable because of the financial aid. The added bonuses are networking opportunities and great professors.

    • @farhiyamohamed___
      @farhiyamohamed___ 4 месяца назад

      Which ivy?

    • @papa-pete
      @papa-pete 4 месяца назад

      @@farhiyamohamed___ Brown

    • @papa-pete
      @papa-pete 3 месяца назад

      @@farhiyamohamed___ Brown

    • @tommydavidwalker2445
      @tommydavidwalker2445 Месяц назад

      There's no metric that an Ivy League Prof is better than non Ivy. Perhaps in your mind there is but there's absolutely northing that proves that.

    • @papa-pete
      @papa-pete Месяц назад +1

      @@tommydavidwalker2445 I agree, I wouldn’t go so far as to say one university has better professors than another. I think that’s comparing apples to oranges. It all depends on what department, what class, etc. In my case, I am studying Computer Science and Economics at Brown. It may be different for a humanities student. I have taken a few courses outside of my field though and have found them to be equally valuable, such as one on International Affairs taught by Lyle Goldstein or a class on Dante’s Inferno and Purgatorio taught by Ronald Martinez.

  • @dootscat3798
    @dootscat3798 22 дня назад

    When their main criteria is how much your parents make or can donate or who the student knows (legacy, friend of school, and other unethical criteria) the student quality will of course decline. That’s why in STEM fields like engineering and CS where you can’t BS your way through and succeed in the real world, non-Ivy schools outrank the Ivies. Employers know this and are much more certain of the quality of an aeronautical engineer from Georgia Tech than Harvard for example.

  • @OneMoreDesu
    @OneMoreDesu 5 месяцев назад +13

    The value is in the connections. The older I am the more I see the truth in "Its who you know, not what you know"

  • @shawn14isme
    @shawn14isme 5 месяцев назад +14

    As someone who attended both a community College, a state university, and taken Harvard classes, i can say from experience that the classes taught at harvard are exceptional. They arent selling you just a feeling or an experience. You are actually getting a higher quality education. The professors and content is a lot more tangible and meaningful.

    • @JinaMukherjeeF
      @JinaMukherjeeF 2 месяца назад +4

      can it also be that ur specific state and community college didnt have exceptional classes? Many other schools may also have amazing profs and education besides ivies

  • @jk6273
    @jk6273 2 месяца назад

    In the ivies, there are great number of meritocratic kids who shine their brand names.

  • @ClickBeetleTV
    @ClickBeetleTV 5 месяцев назад +14

    The Princeton alumni association's ability to find me anywhere at any time to mail me donation reminders is impressive. Doesn't even matter what continent I'm on.

    • @JinaMukherjeeF
      @JinaMukherjeeF 2 месяца назад

      lmao they actually mail u asking for money?

    • @ClickBeetleTV
      @ClickBeetleTV 2 месяца назад

      @@JinaMukherjeeF Constantly

    • @JinaMukherjeeF
      @JinaMukherjeeF 2 месяца назад

      lmaoo also one question mayb personal u dont have to answer if u are not comfy do u feel ur sucess in life was dictated more by u?ur ambition as he said in the video or Princeton also played a huge role@@ClickBeetleTV

    • @JinaMukherjeeF
      @JinaMukherjeeF 2 месяца назад

      @@ClickBeetleTV lmaooo..also if u r comfortable in answering do u feel princeton played a huge role in ur success after graduation? Like due to networking and alumni connections? Or was it more solely u

    • @tommydavidwalker2445
      @tommydavidwalker2445 Месяц назад

      You finding that impressive only proves how brain washed you are from going there most likely.

  • @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb
    @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb 5 месяцев назад +21

    "Nike = Winning"
    Greeks: Well yes obviously

  • @IceCream-ey2kg
    @IceCream-ey2kg 5 месяцев назад +47

    this makes me feel a lot better as a person who has 7 apps due in 4 days, half of them ivies. my dad said i can relax, but i guess it hasn’t sunk in fully until this video

    • @keylanoslokj1806
      @keylanoslokj1806 5 месяцев назад +13

      As an older person i assure you almost noone asks about your school in real life. Your actual skills and personal networking, are the 90% of success

    • @spoonfedstudy
      @spoonfedstudy  5 месяцев назад +7

      Whatever happens, you got this!

    • @dontreadmyusername6787
      @dontreadmyusername6787 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@keylanoslokj1806I would have a very diverse set of skills by the time i graduate
      But networking i absolutely suck at

    • @coolguy-bs7kr
      @coolguy-bs7kr 5 месяцев назад +3

      Same, I also have like 10 apps due 😢

    • @IceCream-ey2kg
      @IceCream-ey2kg 5 месяцев назад

      @@keylanoslokj1806 that's something i slowly realized as well. i know i will carry my passion and determination with me whereever i go, and i am determined to make something out of myself.

  • @vicluu8026
    @vicluu8026 9 дней назад

    if you get an MBA from one of those Ivy league universities, the amount of job offers coming your way is endless. I have seen it with my own eyes. For undergrad though, an Ivy league degree might not make a lot of impact.

  • @PhrontDoor
    @PhrontDoor 5 месяцев назад +13

    The diff between the Nike and Harvard analogies is interior vs exterior.
    You generally get Nike for how it makes you feel.. you get Harvard because of how it makes OTHERS think of you. It gives you two edges -- networking and marketability.
    With Harvard, you become part of the brand.
    Maybe you get the same education as other institutions, but honestly, who cares - you'll need real training and experience after college anyway and everyone knows that.
    Basically, it's like going to a loan-officer and either being a waitress or a neurosurgeon.

    • @leotheliongames
      @leotheliongames 5 месяцев назад +2

      To be fair, people buy designer brands to seem “cool” or “trendy” to others. Although Nike isn’t quite on that ludicrous level, it still somewhat applies

  • @YyNRCyY
    @YyNRCyY 5 месяцев назад +18

    This was a super enjoyable vid. No other way to put it. If I had a social media following I would plaster this everywhere because it’s that good.

  • @ricmorpheus2025
    @ricmorpheus2025 20 дней назад

    Well, if you decide to graduate in such courses like sociology, anthropology, arts, art history and gender-blah-blah-blah, for exemple - does not matter if you are attending or not attending an Ivy League - you will be unemployed, on high debit and will end working for low a wage at a field you did not graduate for.

  • @MOTV583
    @MOTV583 5 месяцев назад +107

    This is the best college admissions video I've ever seen...ever. This is a raw, blunt, and honest truth that a lot of people, especially parents, aren't ready to hear. You can apply this to almost any other college as well except the bar is much lower.
    Edit: It's sorta like the NBA Draft. Yeah a lot of players may feel like a team is doing them a favor by drafting them and taking them out of the hood, making them millionaires, and giving them a chance at generational wealth. However, they're not doing that to be altruistic, they're doing that because they're betting that you will become a superstar, take their team to the championship, and make the owners and the league richer.

  • @SK-vk9jf
    @SK-vk9jf 5 месяцев назад +3

    As a person who is one of those human beings that evolved to be against everything I observe with awe how easily manipulated people are. On the other hand, they would probably be in awe after hearing anything I ever thought.

    • @indridcold9593
      @indridcold9593 5 месяцев назад +2

      O enlightened one, you alone are immune to the propaganda which has blinded the masses. Please bestow your boundless wisdom unto us lowly wretches such that we may comprehend even a fraction of your brilliance.
      (we're joking, right)

    • @quadroninja2708
      @quadroninja2708 5 месяцев назад

      hahahahahaha you know, pride is a sin! You would probably be in awe when you acknowledge where you go after death!!

  • @ash_2279
    @ash_2279 5 месяцев назад +15

    Nice vid. Saw your other videos on focus and the one with the inverted pyramid method, your content has taught me some useful information. Thanks.

    • @spoonfedstudy
      @spoonfedstudy  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Ash! Love that you’re here

  • @dawson9736
    @dawson9736 5 месяцев назад +15

    Hi I just wanted to say this video has changed my outlook on the future, so thank you very much! -senior awaiting decisions

    • @spoonfedstudy
      @spoonfedstudy  5 месяцев назад +5

      I seriously loved reading your comment. This video was literally made with you in mind, for people feeling possibly uneasy with college decisions. Regardless of what decision comes in the mail, your ability to be awesome is and will always be under your control. You got this!!

  • @sapristi455
    @sapristi455 5 месяцев назад +32

    I really like the message here ! That's how I see things : Harvard and other Ivies or optional ; I do want to apply because I will regret it if I don't, but I mainly focus on developing my potential. I want to go to an Ivy because they objectivity offer an excellent education. I know there's also this stamp of approval, but really that's not my main interest. I like to have this mindset of improving myself and eventually getting into an Ivy, because it doesn't make me dependant on them.
    Anyways, nice video 👌🏻

    • @harmonicarchipelgo9351
      @harmonicarchipelgo9351 5 месяцев назад +8

      Ivy League schools aren't really known for providing good education to undergrads. They focus mostly on research and recruitment since that is where the prestige comes from. They are known for making classes difficult, but difficulty doesn't actually mean you learn more.
      If your main goal is just to find a great education, look for a more student centric school. If you already have a major in mind, look for a school that has a well run department for that major. Try talking to students or graduates of prospective schools to see what they thought about their classes/teachers.

    • @amethsall9153
      @amethsall9153 5 месяцев назад

      @@harmonicarchipelgo9351Princeton has a really good undergraduate program if not the best out of the ivies

  • @Privateuser9999
    @Privateuser9999 4 месяца назад

    The best option is to hire gritty students who worked multiple jobs to pay bills from inner cities or small towns or children of immigrants of all races and also the very few elite who prepared from the day they were born and refugees along with super star sportsmen and the truly 1% of the best without racial balancing.

  • @safiulfaiyaz7038
    @safiulfaiyaz7038 2 месяца назад

    Learn sales and marketing
    Do stuff that showcases your potential
    Capitalise and leverage your fame and/or potential
    Boom you’re in.

  • @JoeCnNd
    @JoeCnNd 5 месяцев назад

    2:55, you're looking at that all wrong. I feel more sorry for the 2014 kid because they had to spend that much money just to get them in. The 7 million kid seemed smarter and his daddy didn't have to spend as much to get them in.

  • @rafaeldeangelo6294
    @rafaeldeangelo6294 5 месяцев назад +6

    College admitance is so weird for a non-american. In my country major universities are public-funded: neither tuitions nor any other fees are charged, and admittance is based only on the results of a two-stage exam - open to everyone, regardless of their age, where they studied and their income. There are some quotas to black and poor people. Of couse funding is decreasing and most of the admittees came from middle and upper classes, but it is a way more "meritocratic" than US's.

  • @jl5973
    @jl5973 5 месяцев назад +3

    I feel that the ending of this video downplays how much difficulty is heaped on by rationalising that 'successful' people were always destined to be successful. Sure, similar levels of 'success' (money?) might be achieved, but this doesn't take into account (1) the journey and how much more difficult things had been potentially, and (2) what potential was lost out on, i.e. how much more they could have earned. Would have to see the study itself, but would be curious as to whether the donor applicant students actually brought down what the average successful life looked like. But more broadly, if you're already facing a disadvantage in the job market due to factors such as race, not having any possible advantage just makes things harder.

  • @PioneersOppenheimer
    @PioneersOppenheimer 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bro got rejected from Harvard.

  • @giovannajames8479
    @giovannajames8479 Месяц назад

    School Counselor here- that return on prestige analogy is gold!

  • @HH-xs2gm
    @HH-xs2gm 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is the truth lol.
    I went to a large public university and later went to Harvard. I realized it wasn't the school that I needed to get into to become "successful". My public university is the root of my knowledge and in turn provided me the ability in changing the world just as much as if it was an "elite" education. However, having also went to Harvard, it simply validates my belief. Made me believe in myself even more. That extra boost does help in creating idealism and vision to become even more ambitious than I believed to be possible.

  • @Jaonq
    @Jaonq 5 месяцев назад +4

    Now we just have translate this video to Chinese and other non-english speaking Asian countries languages for the parents there to understand

  • @choksheak2lau697
    @choksheak2lau697 5 месяцев назад +5

    Told my kids not to consider Ivy League schools, or any private universities, at all. I have nothing against them, but the ROI is simply much lower than that of a "normal" public school.

    • @fatassj
      @fatassj 5 месяцев назад +3

      It’s not about money, it’s about networking. There’s a reason most of the successful teams, especially in tech, started from classmates in privates. If your kid is bound to change the world with ideas and innovation, consider putting them in the same room as others who may as well! EDIT: Plus, privates can offer financial assistance.

    • @MuffinPunk
      @MuffinPunk 5 месяцев назад

      Depends on your income level and what your kids are interested in. Also depends completely on what you're defining ROI. Telling people to not consider them whatsoever seems a bit black and white, though.

  • @katefrost7486
    @katefrost7486 5 месяцев назад +6

    only one thing that bothers me in this video is that the author was using his Harvard degree as a stamp in previous videos, like “Harvard doctor explains”. anyways, i love the point of the video and wish good luck to the author and everyone applying next year just like me:)

  • @TheTruth-cg8vj
    @TheTruth-cg8vj 5 месяцев назад +2

    All the big tech companies recruit at U of Waterloo in Canada - and just about nobody has ever heard of the place. What more of a disconnect could there be.

  • @spaghettimeatballswow
    @spaghettimeatballswow 5 месяцев назад +5

    I picture crippling depression

  • @ambinintsoahasina
    @ambinintsoahasina 5 месяцев назад

    This gave so much more mental clarity that it made all the other videos about Ivy league admission I watched on other channels irrelevant

  • @jar6595
    @jar6595 5 месяцев назад +53

    This was incredible and very true.
    -signed: an ivy grad

  • @johndempster4598
    @johndempster4598 5 месяцев назад +2

    I wish I could have seen this video years ago. I’m a recent undergraduate and am planning for law school, and have stressed so very much about getting into a prestigious enough school.

  • @alenimbang2356
    @alenimbang2356 5 месяцев назад

    But your company prefer to hire fresh graduated from ivy league, i think. They trust the quality of this platform.

  • @DeltaTesla-ph9yh
    @DeltaTesla-ph9yh 5 месяцев назад +5

    As someone with 2 master degrees and getting a 3rd one, all from a economic, public university, I couldn't care less about Ivy Leagues, but this video is still interesting to watch.

    • @fitnesspoint2006
      @fitnesspoint2006 5 месяцев назад +2

      so i hear lots of folks at bars, work, friends who say they are working on their second master or getting ready for a third...but none of them have the prestige or turns heads as when a friend goes I have a PhD in neuroscience or xyz. People immediately listen, the person with the 2.5 masters degree not so much...just speaking from experience.

  • @antihypocrisy8978
    @antihypocrisy8978 5 месяцев назад +1

    A lot of students were legacy admissions, and didn't deserve to be there on merit alone.

  • @3days0000
    @3days0000 5 месяцев назад +3

    Love your penetrating insight and wisdom in this psychologically insecure world. Please do more. Help our poor kids to unleash their potential

  • @Spliffcheeseburger
    @Spliffcheeseburger 5 месяцев назад

    What are you talking about? Cambridge and Oxford are older and more prestigious that Harvard

  • @bakangndaba
    @bakangndaba 5 месяцев назад +5

    Well, that explains legacy admissions

  • @aqple
    @aqple 2 месяца назад +1

    This video opened my eyes. I'm dropping out of the Ivy League. The only reason they accepted me was to benefit themselves.

    • @JinaMukherjeeF
      @JinaMukherjeeF 2 месяца назад

      why would u drop out? U get the network and resources

  • @mijaelmarcelovillarroelchu6513
    @mijaelmarcelovillarroelchu6513 5 месяцев назад +8

    I liked your video, I am from Bolivia and I personally had planned to go to study at an Ivy League university or some Korean or Chinese university since I think that this way I would get the prestige that I longed for in the past when I was even more immature. What I am now I have a little more mental clarity and I even go to therapy and since I have just graduated from high school I am trying to get to know myself more since I am taking pre-med courses that last 3 months, I already took my first exam and It didn't go well, I got a 26/100 so I'm still thinking about what I'm really good at and I'm interested since I think medicine is not for me.

    • @BobbyFisaher
      @BobbyFisaher 5 месяцев назад +1

      keep trying man, you got this, vamos

  • @johnvonachen1672
    @johnvonachen1672 5 месяцев назад +62

    My friend got into Harvard. He was poor but had stellar academic credentials. He said they were not academically strong at all. Most of the students there were rich kids who were not especially smart. He said his degree did not benefit him at all. At least he did not need to pay anything. He just wasted 4 years of his life.

    • @johncarr2333
      @johncarr2333 5 месяцев назад +6

      Random dubious anecdote

    • @creepynutsrl
      @creepynutsrl 5 месяцев назад +4

      fr? I thought ivy league schools at least give you good networking opportunities, bruh.

    • @minoena
      @minoena 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@johncarr2333 why are you replying this to literally every anecdotal comment.

    • @karami8844
      @karami8844 5 месяцев назад +4

      Rich kids are what you’ll mostly see at any well-known university, Ivy League or not. They’re the ones who party, travel and whose parents personally know the deans or university president. Meanwhile, us poor kids work hard to keep our grades high in order to keep our grants and scholarships. No time to enjoy life.

    • @Felipe_Ribeir0
      @Felipe_Ribeir0 5 месяцев назад

      A smart poor guy gone through harvard for free and "lost 4 years"? I really cant make any sense of this statement.
      Unless he studied some random useless subject, or had some other issue. Otherwise, with little effort he could join some FAANG company or similar.

  • @Literallyarealhuman
    @Literallyarealhuman 5 месяцев назад +2

    The first kid was a menace so to get the second one in he had to sweeten the deal.

  • @kautilyapodagatlapalli6128
    @kautilyapodagatlapalli6128 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for this video. It is truly inspiring !

  • @justusmzb7441
    @justusmzb7441 5 месяцев назад +2

    The stamp is pretty secondary. The contacts you receive and the quality of the research facilities can really help in research and other opportunities. It will also help in e.g. finding investors in the future, or having that one contact into a company you want to work at.

  • @user-ck7my4dh4k
    @user-ck7my4dh4k 5 месяцев назад +1

    I would argue over the last few years top students have been going to mid tier schools. Just look at the lack of SAT/ACT reporting at the Ivey leagues.

  • @jimmy13morrison
    @jimmy13morrison 5 месяцев назад +1

    Rich kid go to ivy schools-> rich kid get high paying job because of nepotism-> wow ivy schools get you high paying job because they are the best
    I feel like someone somewhere might have skipped a couple of beats

  • @Hyvexx
    @Hyvexx 5 месяцев назад +6

    Oh boy imagine my surprise when I learned in class that Harvard's endowment grows at billions every year. This also makes me feel a lot better that I decided not to apply to Ivy Leagues.

  • @tianyuema4797
    @tianyuema4797 5 месяцев назад

    This video is really good! Thank you for enlightening me!

  • @Kiwi-ku1ui
    @Kiwi-ku1ui 5 месяцев назад

    Wasn’t that impressed at first but after watching through the video. I enjoyed. Thanks for making it.

  • @jmcampbell05
    @jmcampbell05 2 месяца назад

    CURIOUSLY, YOU OMIT YOUR PERFORMANCE IN THESE SCHOOLS IN FAVOR OF ADMISSION AS BADGES OF MERIT.

  • @tenderneckless
    @tenderneckless 5 месяцев назад

    I want to see part 2 !

  • @xxaavviieerrrrr
    @xxaavviieerrrrr 5 месяцев назад

    man this is such a high quality video thanks for the insight

  • @yperboreus
    @yperboreus 5 месяцев назад +2

    I get your point that Ivy League institutions are cash cows operating under the guise of charities, but 'Corporation' had a much broader meaning in the 17th century, when capitalism wasn't even fully developed. The relevant context here is the legal one, see OED 'corporation' 5a: "incorporated entity with the capacity to act as a legal person, having an identity in law distinct from those of the individual or collection of individuals of which it is comprised at any point in time."

  • @sjuvanet
    @sjuvanet 5 месяцев назад

    good video, brother. keep 'em coming

  • @HL-fy8nq
    @HL-fy8nq 5 месяцев назад +2

    One more truth: I still want that Ivy League stamp. I may not need it, but I want it.

  • @mastete002
    @mastete002 5 месяцев назад

    This is so different compared to the Swedish university system, where admissions are based solely on grades and entrance exams.

  • @sukapow
    @sukapow 5 месяцев назад +3

    I feel like ivy leagues, universities, and colleges will end up like encyclopedia

    • @danielsouroujon4650
      @danielsouroujon4650 5 месяцев назад

      interesting. why?

    • @sukapow
      @sukapow 5 месяцев назад

      @@danielsouroujon4650 every businesses are competing with the internet. So much knowledge on it.
      Universities used to have secret vault of knowledges before internet was a thing.
      I can learned so much things on it, I just need a good computer

    • @MuffinPunk
      @MuffinPunk 5 месяцев назад

      Also curious about why you feel this way. Unless the U.S. has a downfall like the Roman Empire, it seems unlikely just because of how ingrained in our culture it is.

    • @sukapow
      @sukapow 5 месяцев назад

      @@MuffinPunk have you heard of the 10,000 years clock in California.
      It's basically a alarm clock if we survived in 10,000 years.
      They're haven't been a nation survive over 10,000 years.
      United States of the American used to be a country where one man feel comfortable to have one job and provide end meat to his family unfortunately middle class status is hard to achieve specially rent costs ridiculous in America. Rent costs monthly.
      We got international students on visa taking American jobs and illegal immigrant too. We build too many houses in America. Where I live, it's only houses and a military base... everyone mom kids forced them to focused on computer science. Young generation thinks web development is the future.. but computer science degrees was always useless..
      But people don't understand that most big tech companies got a nepotism problem.. if you put a Indian as an ceo, then you will get Asians (Indian, Chinese, Korean, and ect ) working in your company. They're country is twice bigger in united state.
      How can we take over a country without using violence.
      Simple by taking the native jobs 🧐. Make the native homeless. Let be honest, most average Americans are lazy. We got a homeless crises and I feel bad for the veterans... oh yh, let have universities accept international students higher than a native. My university, we had too many international students...
      Canada was smart to kick the international students out of their country.
      I blamed the internet and airplane existence...

  • @Candiosd
    @Candiosd 4 месяца назад

    Worked with Ivy league students. Full of pride, but didnt know jack about business.
    If you have a qualification or a license a degree is nothing

  • @amitai8204
    @amitai8204 5 месяцев назад +1

    very interesting. thank you.

  • @Solis_Pulchrus
    @Solis_Pulchrus 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a graduate from a mid level school and I still got a good job after graduation.
    School name doesn't mean everything

  • @sapinordinaire4484
    @sapinordinaire4484 3 месяца назад +1

    you changed my life in a good way ^^

  • @frankyyy9725
    @frankyyy9725 Месяц назад

    I was absolutely No where near Smart enough to even step foot near an Ivy League school lol

  • @Viktor-jo4kr
    @Viktor-jo4kr 5 месяцев назад

    This video is pretty well made, nice

  • @DalbirChana
    @DalbirChana 5 месяцев назад +2

    My understanding was that the City of London Corporation was the oldest corporation in the Western hemisphere, in that it is west of the Prime Meridian.

    • @erinm9445
      @erinm9445 5 месяцев назад +2

      That's a technical geometric definition of the western hemisphere, but most people use western hemisphere to mean the Americas, and eastern hemisphere to mean Europe, Africa, Asia and Australia.

  • @ThePenguinsKing
    @ThePenguinsKing 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why did RUclips recommend me this video? I don't live in the US and don't plan to.

  • @lemo4128
    @lemo4128 5 месяцев назад

    I'm glad I realized these things before watching this video

  • @g13953
    @g13953 5 месяцев назад

    Phenomenal video!

  • @sparklenights5421
    @sparklenights5421 5 месяцев назад

    this is great and seems honest, thanks for the video

  • @simonAdeWeerdt
    @simonAdeWeerdt 5 месяцев назад

    Hey, nice summary of the Ivy League business model.
    Sympathies for those that need that stamp.

  • @lumawhein4348
    @lumawhein4348 5 месяцев назад

    Honestly when the guy said "when you think of the Ivy league, what do you picture?", I pictured expensive cash.

  • @Navoii.
    @Navoii. 5 месяцев назад

    I just want to become a lawyer, I don't really care which school I get in.
    No matter what grades I get, I'll try to get in

  • @TechArtAnubia
    @TechArtAnubia 5 месяцев назад

    Damn, i dont know how i ended up here but this was very insightful.

  • @watchbenfail
    @watchbenfail 5 месяцев назад +5

    But Jordan went to an ACC school ... anyway, I went to Columbia and promptly disappeared into obscurity; joke's on them I guess!

  • @josephhobbs4680
    @josephhobbs4680 5 месяцев назад +4

    It is proven though that you will perform better if you're surrounded by people similar to your own skill level because of the realistic comparisons you subconsciously make

    • @sparklenights5421
      @sparklenights5421 5 месяцев назад +1

      yeah so it sucks extra for those who dont have much money, and try but aren't seen cause they just don't have the ressources

    • @MuffinPunk
      @MuffinPunk 5 месяцев назад

      @@sparklenights5421 What do you mean? If we're talking the U.S. and low-income people that need a full ride, they have resources to access the institutions in this video. It's not a guarantee, as with anything you're applying for, but people do have access. It's less about being seen (if you're meaning like "discovered," or something similar).

  • @hirwabelievergall5464
    @hirwabelievergall5464 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome man. I liked your video

  • @mfn1311
    @mfn1311 5 месяцев назад

    Actually great video! Good fun too

  • @enrichedtalks
    @enrichedtalks 2 месяца назад

    Excellent video. Every high schooler needs to see it.

  • @artraft5142
    @artraft5142 5 месяцев назад

    The best thing to do is to have a look into the Supermarket that s nearby these Universities to see which are the Cell Capabilities of the Region!

  • @blockthis08
    @blockthis08 5 месяцев назад +2

    2:08 From Columbus, Oh ...Wexner owns the city.

  • @inappropriatejohnson
    @inappropriatejohnson 5 месяцев назад

    At least Avi Loeb is doing his part to sh!t all over Harvard.

  • @lotsaspaghetticodejr.6488
    @lotsaspaghetticodejr.6488 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wait 1650?
    Harvard is literally older than The United States of America itself? Woah

  • @dauts
    @dauts 4 месяца назад

    amazing video

  • @yaminhassanmahdi
    @yaminhassanmahdi 5 месяцев назад

    thank you for sharing

  • @herrDOS
    @herrDOS 5 месяцев назад +1

    To the contrary, $7 million kid was probably the smartest one so didn’t require as much money to counterweight the lack of knowledge

  • @danielwillis12
    @danielwillis12 5 месяцев назад +14

    Absolutely love it!!! Looking forward to your next videos!!! Uns uns uns uns uns

    • @spoonfedstudy
      @spoonfedstudy  5 месяцев назад

      Haha thanks Daniel! Good to see you here again my man

  • @brothberg
    @brothberg 5 месяцев назад

    So many have replied to my comment saying "the education at the Ivys may not be better, but you get networking and connections that will help your career. "
    This is immensely overblown. It's true that if you want to move to NYC or Wash DC, you will have a better chance getting into some industries (consulting, Wall Street, DC legal firms) with an Ivy degree. But in tech, it basically doesn't matter. If you apply for say, a programming job, you will have an audition. If you are smart and well educated, you will do well. If not, no. Even in law and Wall Street, the Ivy degree will only help getting your first job. After that, it's all you. I've lived that life, and I know.
    Also, most people do not move to NYC. They stay in the state that they are from. In that case the network from the flagship state U is actually better.

  • @genegroover3721
    @genegroover3721 4 месяца назад

    How could a Doctor have time to create a RUclips channel and even if he did, more importantly why would he?
    Why?

  • @duckymomo7935
    @duckymomo7935 5 месяцев назад +2

    The quality of education doesn’t improve or differ just because it’s Ivy League sure math 55 is notoriously hard but it’s because it’s super fast paced
    The content or quality has not changed

  • @tjmbv8680
    @tjmbv8680 5 месяцев назад +1

    Pro Tip: just drift around on campus to meet the students and drop in on lectures.