Joey happy to not be mainstream tho, he never really been about being the biggest in the game, he care more about bein real and stayin true to hip hop. Glad he getting some newer fans from the drake feud
I never would have thought in a million years he would stop and do a whach ass pod cast.... 3 years after you posted this comment and I still feel the same way..
Ortiz verse inspired me, really, hearing that beautiful rhyme scheme made me 90% in awe, 10% jealous, and 100% determined to write at least 1 verse of such quality and substance, Joel you are a legend in the making.
+Joe Barasch Naw bruh Joel won that shit... That Earl Manigault Bar was just straight genius. As well as that "Billy the Kid" and then saying they're just off-spring of the G.O.A.T... For those who don't know a young goat is known as a "kid"... Joell has metaphors for DAYS!!!
"You heard a clue tape you know what's bout to happen again" Joe bars go over yall heads. Joell straightforward like words worth and punchline, Joe make you think
There are two kinds of freestyle: Written (which was the first kind of freestyle that existed in the beginning of the hip hop movement) and "off the dome" (which used to be looked down upon until late 80's)
Mannnn budden souded nice on this but I been down with Ransom from day 1. So its really hard to be in tune with that nikka. Drake and Ortiz killed it too. Everybody on the bandwagon to hate drake but he puts out some good music too. Ortiz always slammin the beats, so thats all i gotta say about him.
Get off the Drake hate train. Shit looks corny as fuck. Joel bodied this that's obvious, but that doesn't mean Drake didn't go in. Enjoy the track for what it is
"I dont bother with a glock, or havent since i parted from the block, but if DUKE talking crazy then he'll do it to a cartridge full of shots, find his body in a RIVER down in AUSTIN wont matter if his father is a DOC." One of the best sports bar ive ever heard
It is really dope... However, the BEST sports bar reference on this track I go back and fourth between this and the Earl Manigault line Ortiz spit. What could have made that Austin Rivers and Doc line even better is if he used the words "Clippers worth" instead of "Cartridge full"... But regardless that line was still fire.
i couldn't hate on lil wayne bc before i even heard of budden or slaughterhouse i the hotboys ran the 90's in the south. some people don't acknowledge that. i just started listening to budden about a year ago although he is obviously better. i like waynes old stuff better bc its more raw but you're right. everyone grows and their rhyme style changes for the better. lil wayne is probably worth more than most rappers out here.
NY is where HIP HOP started & where the best rappers have come from! There's no competition! Big Pun, B.I.G., Jay Z, & now Joell Ortiz! THERE'S NO COMPETITION!
Sets of 50 on the incline make no sense. Budden needs to lower his reps to 8-15 to hit hypertrophy if he wants to grow. Or 3-5 to up his upper chest strength.
joell ortiz kills it lyrically, not that he doesn't shine on every song, but buddens and drakes verses dont compare even though drake makes club anthems, you know the shit that comes on and everyone gets wild(when all the guys get confident because they pulled chicks listening to this song before and all the girls get crazy listening to the song) and joe budden makes some of the deepest most relate-able songs one can find
Yeah, with his 13 Grammy Awards, 1 Academy Award, 10 American Music Awards, 17 Billboard Awards, and Being the Highest-Selling Rap Artist of All time, and Selling more albums in the last decade than ANY artist of ANY genre. Yeah dude, you know what you're talking about....People always either overrate or underrate Drake. I'm not gonna hate and say he sucks, but Em's status alone, what he is STILL doin in the game, the respect he has make Drake not even in his league. Em's a legend, Drake=decent.
@@YourPalHDee Em didn't ruin slaughterhouse, the game does not accomodate a crew like SH. People want 3 hooks and 2 verses Not 4/5 verses of pure bars and 0-2 hooks. I am sure Em did advise them not to all get on every track together at the same time, and to use less "underground" beats because at the end of the day the label is a business and needs to make money from it's artists. The problem at Shady has been having the best lyricists with less mainstream marketability. Yelawolf and 50 are the only exceptions. Em has even done that to himself on mulitple albums like recovery, mmlp2 and revival where he has gone with a pop element to try and appeal to a wider audience and satisfy more people.
Thank you for not just denying that this verse is alright. Everyone acts like Drake is the worst thing to happen to rap, when there's a long ass list of worse acts
"back when if a N reached it was for the weapon"? Uh...no Drakey. Back in the day, you used to have to put up ya dukes. At least that's my back in the day. I'm in my late 30s though, so I guess back in the day for you, in terms of "era" is the pull out a gun epidemic. But in the timeline of a young man's life in general, "back in the day" should still be about scrappin' unless of course...you can't fight. Now I'm not glorifying fighting, but it's waaaay better than shooting.
On The House! #RecordLikeSubscribeShareToPopHaters #LOeuilQuiVoitToutCestNous #Troubadour #YouCantStopTheReign #LeCrimeNeDortPasNousNonPlus #WeDontBelieveYou #QuietStorm
Tbh,Drake's pretty good when it comes to rapping.He's obviously ten times better than Lil Wayne and other mainstream trash rappers like 2 Chains,Future,and Wocka Flocka Flame(however you spell it),but I'm pretty sure he didn't get fans due to his rapping skills.It's mainly because of his generic club songs and flashy beats.Drake just influences more and more of that stuff everyday.People need to learn that hip-hop is not all about that type of shit.And he's no where near the Shady level.
“They tried to black ball me, but I’m awesome with my pool stick” 🔥🔥
-Joell Ortiz
"find his body in a river down in austin won't matter if his father is the doc" DAMNNN budden killed it with that one line
That was a Eminem diss
@@flipsum555 Nah son that's word play kid. Austin Rivers dad is named doc.
@@pk7ghalm23 got em
Joe Budden was one of the best lyricists for the longest time but was always overlooked because of that crappy Pump it up bullshit.
@@KingDomsKingdom85 Still is fam 💯
Joell completely burned this down!! Those were high powered bars!!
''Putting verses in coffins is just anothr day in the Shady office''. Enuff said, Joell!
2019, How have I never heard this???🔥🔥🔥
Me either havnt hear gud rap in a min
Cause you're young kid
Damn but its never to late😂you on the right track👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Joe Vera what? 🤦🏽♂️😹😹😹
Welcome latecomer, check Joel Ortiz pre slaughterhouse and Buddens Mood Muzik
Salute Joel Ortiz is the f****** truth you I swear he is......
Lisa Young man DAT nigga dope
Lisa Young marry me ma 🤓❤
Fuckin
And your right
Still here in 2024
Joey is a beast can't stand how the music game is going.. ARE YOU IN DAT MOOOOD YET??? haha
Joey happy to not be mainstream tho, he never really been about being the biggest in the game, he care more about bein real and stayin true to hip hop. Glad he getting some newer fans from the drake feud
He has the best qoutes lmao "can i talk my shit?"
Yea I know joey Ortiz I call home tattoo joey he did some tats on me
I never would have thought in a million years he would stop and do a whach ass pod cast.... 3 years after you posted this comment and I still feel the same way..
@@kamikazed4837 l0000l00lllllll
Kobe my homie I hate it had to be him! Rip kobe Bryant!
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The NBA bars on this track are fucken lit especially Joe's
This why Joell and Joey are 2 of my favorites.
Ortiz verse inspired me, really, hearing that beautiful rhyme scheme made me 90% in awe, 10% jealous, and 100% determined to write at least 1 verse of such quality and substance, Joel you are a legend in the making.
Ain't got it in you flunky
Jo-Ell Ortiz the absolute truth!!!!
Never heard of this Joell Ortiz; dude scan spit. Best verse.
Listen to 5 am in Brooklyn and Hip hop by Joell. He has plenty of great songs but if your just getting into his music listen to those.
"Fucking Problem" freestyle is my personal favourite. He goes in.
Check Joell Ortiz Battle Cry.
+Clev Eland Battle cry is joell in beast mode its in my top 5 rap songs and I've just listens it last month #Slaughterhouseforlife
Check out hip hop dude has crazy flow
If hip hop was about lyrics Joey won that shit a long time ago
+Joe Barasch Naw bruh Joel won that shit... That Earl Manigault Bar was just straight genius. As well as that "Billy the Kid" and then saying they're just off-spring of the G.O.A.T... For those who don't know a young goat is known as a "kid"... Joell has metaphors for DAYS!!!
+Clev Eland Agreed. Buddens was nice but Joel killed it.
+Clev Eland Damn thank you
Miguel Cruz People SLEEPING on Joel... They like Budden b/c of his flow and b/c of his role on Love and Hip Hop.
joey that dude
Song starts at 2:22
+Stath JO nah he right
+CardinalHijack YAOWA
+Ray G fuck drake
true story
It's not trash. Just not nearly close to the Housegang
Joel Ortiz was just stretching his muscles total mismatch, he slaughtered the beat
My voice turns everything into a light under a spoon= Game over on this track.
Oritz is too dope (pun intended).
Larry Murphy I don't get it turns everything into freebasing?
He straight dope 4real. Love him.
@@mcallstar7 cuz he's dope
"You heard a clue tape you know what's bout to happen again" Joe bars go over yall heads. Joell straightforward like words worth and punchline, Joe make you think
Joell Ortiz is amazing.
RedGuajiro Whoa
Mona Lisa Apollo Brown Joel Ortiz
I know this is old now but i just have to say Joell absolutely bodied this...STILL the best verse i ever heard. Giving credit when credit is due...
True
Did he take a breath? lol.
Budden on another level
Joe Budden & Joell Ortiz ,I love it how this two dude adapt to a beat , putting too much emmotions I love it from SMK Mbele in South Africa
Ortiz is the truth... Get ready!
Joell goes in but Budden destroys it! SLAUGHTERHOUSEEEEEEE
Nahh I think Joell took this one lol.... " My Voice turns everything into a lighter under a spoon " ... KO!!!!
+Xavier Turner Or the Earl Manigault scheme and/or the Billy the kidd being off spring of the GOAT... Damn those were some BARS!!!
Nah Joell’s verse is levels above Budden’s
@@mosesblack8946 agree to disagree. JOEY TOOK THAT 1.
still bumping this in 2018
Man Ortiz went in!!! And Budden bars crazy!!!
2:00 is where Drake's verse ends and the song begins.
lmao
Haktuspit U made me choke on the L homie. Straight facts though.
basically.. Budden went off though
yeah no shit, Budden murdered this shittt
Haktuspit lol
This track never fades! It still spazzed wen played!🔥🤟🏾
Joell sounded starving hungry on this, str8 murder to this track *Goosebumps*
A decade later and I still think Joel Ortiz is the most underrated rapper of this age. Joe Budden killed this beat too.
There are two kinds of freestyle: Written (which was the first kind of freestyle that existed in the beginning of the hip hop movement) and "off the dome" (which used to be looked down upon until late 80's)
2019? Yuh I’m here, who’s with me ?
2024!
Joel gave me the goosebumps...brings back some painful memories
I can relate
Mannnn budden souded nice on this but I been down with Ransom from day 1. So its really hard to be in tune with that nikka. Drake and Ortiz killed it too. Everybody on the bandwagon to hate drake but he puts out some good music too. Ortiz always slammin the beats, so thats all i gotta say about him.
what if I told you you could like both artists regardless of beef
Joe budden surprised me with this one, I didn't know he was nice like that
Bro , he is nice as fuck with them bars . Check out his verse on no church in the wild .
joe always been ill
Tayshawn Howard HUHHH?
Joey top 5
Been nice since 2001
Yaowa!!!!
I ri er4
+nessa6228 Joell just straight KILLED this track... So many BARS and metaphors...
Slaughterhouse Joey!!!
Joe murdered it.
Here in dam near 2019!!!! JOEY!!
"My room where i dismantle pianos and the violin was doom cause my voice turns everything into a lighter under a spoon" WHAAT ?? Joell is mad
He's definitely dismantled this motha fuckin track like a mad man
"I aint trying to rap new ideas using old thoughts".. 🙌🏾
Jeerrrrrzz stand UP✊🏾..
I like how you articulated that. Respect.
joell ortiz salute my nigga
Joells first four bars body drakes entire existence let alone his verse on this, SLAUGHTERRRRRRRRRR
Dark Side Joell is cool but to say Drake didn’t body the beat is disrespectful to highest level. Drake has many amazing verses
@@gamernation2842 like Dark Side said, "body drakes entire existence". This is real hiphop at its finest
Bar for bar joel on the upper echelon... Cant even compare... Everyone who was i in slaughter house bar drake to death
Even budden
Get off the Drake hate train. Shit looks corny as fuck. Joel bodied this that's obvious, but that doesn't mean Drake didn't go in. Enjoy the track for what it is
"I dont bother with a glock, or havent since i parted from the block, but if DUKE talking crazy then he'll do it to a cartridge full of shots, find his body in a RIVER down in AUSTIN wont matter if his father is a DOC." One of the best sports bar ive ever heard
It is really dope... However, the BEST sports bar reference on this track I go back and fourth between this and the Earl Manigault line Ortiz spit. What could have made that Austin Rivers and Doc line even better is if he used the words "Clippers worth" instead of "Cartridge full"... But regardless that line was still fire.
That Earl Manigault (goat/GOAT) line did it for me.
I scrolled the comments looking for this haha Joey is a beast
i couldn't hate on lil wayne bc before i even heard of budden or slaughterhouse i the hotboys ran the 90's in the south. some people don't acknowledge that. i just started listening to budden about a year ago although he is obviously better. i like waynes old stuff better bc its more raw but you're right. everyone grows and their rhyme style changes for the better. lil wayne is probably worth more than most rappers out here.
This track is fire .. everybody body it ..
Right on...Thanks for clarifying that
2:20 ... you're welcome
thanks. the only reason I viewed this.
Without a doubt..
I miss this kind ot rap
LOL,, Drake says "There was a time it was rugged", like he isn't the main dude making it soft. Meanwhile, Joel Ortiz is Big Punisher 2014.
Ninja Channel Big Pun's son is nice with bars too, not better than his father but he definitely has a lot of potential. Check his freestyle on Sway.
Gerald Duval I did. He's alright, comparisons to his father aside. A bit too nonsensical for my taste.
exactly he be talking bout himself
Also check out his track w/ Styles P on his Black Hearts Official Album... It's under Chris Rivers... Dope track.
I read through the comments for shit like this. 100 facts
2021?.. Who else? Slaaaaughter House!!
“I could roof a bowling ball” 😆 I f’n love Joe!
This in 2021 still harder then mostly everything being played
Damm joey went harder than a muthafucka on dis track joell to they both fire
Ortiz totally murdered this!!!!!!
That pool
Stick bar by Joel 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I can roof a bowling ball* that bar rings so hard and I can't understand why lol
Joell Ortiz ...is so underrated 🔥🔥🔥
NY is where HIP HOP started & where the best rappers have come from! There's no competition! Big Pun, B.I.G., Jay Z, & now Joell Ortiz! THERE'S NO COMPETITION!
2021 still banging
It sounds like drake is trying to diss his future self. lol
Woooh! My goodness he killed that
ewf to sick mix. Awesome job mate!
Joey killed it and so did Joell, but don't sleep on Drake's verse.
Drakes verse made me zzzzz g lll
Wish Meek Mill had a verse on this. The rhythm reminds me of Polos and Shell Tops
dat beat is hittin
Sets of 50 on the incline make no sense. Budden needs to lower his reps to 8-15 to hit hypertrophy if he wants to grow. Or 3-5 to up his upper chest strength.
+Thomas Walsh Hilarious! Meat heads be like, yes, hard bars my dude, but wait, "Sets of 50?"
+Thomas Walsh Joe don't know how to stop at 16, that's why he's an OG in this game.
+alejandrotesla This comment is appreciated.
Drakes ghostwriter pretty nice.. but slaughterhouse killed it
its a metaphor for he a beast in beast mode. like when he say he can roof a bowling ball. he a beast at this rap shit. its metaphors
What dis is fire ortiz is crack!!!!!!!!!! buddens is a nightmare on the track!!!!!!!
This joint is tight
2021 Great Music 🎵
'2020' ARE YOU IN THAT MOOD YET
Fire!!!!!!!2021
That doc rivers line was probably the hardest from Joe I’ve heard.
Your words collapse apone one another
joell ortiz kills it lyrically, not that he doesn't shine on every song, but buddens and drakes verses dont compare even though drake makes club anthems, you know the shit that comes on and everyone gets wild(when all the guys get confident because they pulled chicks listening to this song before and all the girls get crazy listening to the song) and joe budden makes some of the deepest most relate-able songs one can find
Yeah, with his 13 Grammy Awards, 1 Academy Award, 10 American Music Awards, 17 Billboard Awards, and Being the Highest-Selling Rap Artist of All time, and Selling more albums in the last decade than ANY artist of ANY genre. Yeah dude, you know what you're talking about....People always either overrate or underrate Drake. I'm not gonna hate and say he sucks, but Em's status alone, what he is STILL doin in the game, the respect he has make Drake not even in his league. Em's a legend, Drake=decent.
Drake = trash with decent ghost writers in his early days.
“They ask me bout my well-being, well I’ve been fine” I don’t know the man but this is such a Joe respons 😂
“Stay schemin niggas tryna get at me “ will never get old .
Joel Ortiz fukn smashed this track brahh
everytime i hear Joell, it blows my mind. point ur finger in the mirror if u blew it! Jeeeeesoosss
drake is good lyrically but not in buddens league.
to me
almost nobody who ever lived in on Joey Buddens's level
@@KB1983.Em, Royce da 5’9, King Los and Andre 3000 are the only ones for me. Elite pen
Factsss
@JerichoFPSv he was the weakest link in slaughterhouse.
@@thabisothejane5328 Joel Ortiz was by far the weakest.. let’s pump the breaks
Em didn't teach Slaughterhouse shit. All he did was sign them.
Em fucking ruined Slaughterhouse man, I wish they'd never signed with him. Joey had it right, he signed them for inspiration.
@@YourPalHDee Em didn't ruin slaughterhouse, the game does not accomodate a crew like SH. People want 3 hooks and 2 verses Not 4/5 verses of pure bars and 0-2 hooks. I am sure Em did advise them not to all get on every track together at the same time, and to use less "underground" beats because at the end of the day the label is a business and needs to make money from it's artists. The problem at Shady has been having the best lyricists with less mainstream marketability. Yelawolf and 50 are the only exceptions. Em has even done that to himself on mulitple albums like recovery, mmlp2 and revival where he has gone with a pop element to try and appeal to a wider audience and satisfy more people.
I can roof a bowling ball!!!! 🎳🎳🎳🎳
And a bowling ball can make a hole in the roof
Never mind Joe burden said it
dwaaaaawm hard!!!
Slaughterhouse Monsters!! wooooo
Thank you for not just denying that this verse is alright. Everyone acts like Drake is the worst thing to happen to rap, when there's a long ass list of worse acts
Joel Ortiz SALUTE!
Best version hands down joey is a fuckin animal
RIP to everyone else on this track. JOELL BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF IT
Top 5 Joell verse ever. I mean, i say that every time i hear a verse from him, but i really mean it this time.
And I'm Black! Recovery was boss. Hell:the Sequel was some of the most lyrical hip-hop out there. Relapse satisfied his hardcore fans.
Joel Ortiz is a beast..Double murder all in one..Makes Drake sound like his first time in a booth..
Drake verse was hard as fuck...Ortiz was beasting though
what beat is this? I know this beat but just cant name it.
"back when if a N reached it was for the weapon"? Uh...no Drakey. Back in the day, you used to have to put up ya dukes. At least that's my back in the day. I'm in my late 30s though, so I guess back in the day for you, in terms of "era" is the pull out a gun epidemic. But in the timeline of a young man's life in general, "back in the day" should still be about scrappin' unless of course...you can't fight. Now I'm not glorifying fighting, but it's waaaay better than shooting.
straight up!
Slaughter house!!
On The House! #RecordLikeSubscribeShareToPopHaters #LOeuilQuiVoitToutCestNous #Troubadour #YouCantStopTheReign #LeCrimeNeDortPasNousNonPlus
#WeDontBelieveYou #QuietStorm
Thanks good to hear it from BDK i understand now
thank you!
listen to joey battle cry goes innnnnnn
Tbh,Drake's pretty good when it comes to rapping.He's obviously ten times better than Lil Wayne and other mainstream trash rappers like 2 Chains,Future,and Wocka Flocka Flame(however you spell it),but I'm pretty sure he didn't get fans due to his rapping skills.It's mainly because of his generic club songs and flashy beats.Drake just influences more and more of that stuff everyday.People need to learn that hip-hop is not all about that type of shit.And he's no where near the Shady level.