Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Another charge dismissed | LiveNOW from FOX
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- The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse murder trial has decided to dismiss another charge against the defendant. Count six of the indictment is for use of a dangerous weapon. The attorneys and judge argued over whether the length of the gun in question would make it a "dangerous weapon" according to criminal statute. The judge determined it did not meet the criteria and dismissed the charge. A charge of being out after curfew had been previously dismissed during the trial.
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So the prosecution knew this was not a short barreled rifle, yet went forward with the charges? Both of these prosecutors should be disbarred and charged.
Prosecutors do this sort of thing all the time.
It's well established by now that the prosecution is corrupt.
@@kennethgammon9303 just like the judge..
@@paessensdanny9443 Please tell us how the judge is corrupt?
They wanted the gun charge so that even if the jury found Rittenhouse not guilty of the murder charges, it would have a fall back position, "well, technically he didn't commit murder, but we still think it was wrong, so we have to convict him of something".
“It wasn’t until you pointed your firearm at mr rittenhouse that he shot, correct?”
“Yes”
End of discussion.
To be fair, that only ends the possible complaints of the "arm vaporizing" of Gaige Grosskreutz, and that also makes sure he doesn't get the $10M. It does give further credibility to Kyle too, for his proper behavior, but that's about it.
As far as Grosskreutz, yes.
@@JL-ix5io Yeap what about the other 2 guys
@@Jhoodemcee
What about them?
@Liberty Prime-discussion continues.
Why didn't you shoot first.
Because I'm not that kind of a person.
End of discussion. There I fixed it for you.
The M&P 15 has a 16" barrel and overall length is greater than 26". Charge dismissed.
@Jose Stickman Your missing the point, the prosecution wants to add a charge for an illegal firearm, hence the fire arm is legal to own and carry, and the prosecution knows its legal because it has a 16" barrel and overall length is greater than 26" the prosecution knew this was not a short barreled rifle yet still filed the motion, quite honestly this is getting ridiculous.
@Jose Stickman COVID
@Jose Stickman This is what happens when you implement so many laws agianst guns it get to confusing and muddies the water to a point where one law will cancle another and so on and so forth.
@Jose Stickman all guns are dangerous
@Jose Stickman the rifle didn't kill them, they committed suicide by attacking a legally armed citizen
So let us recap the fascists' score card. "He should not have been there". As a free American he had every right to be there. "He brought an illegal weapon over State lines. Demonstrably false on both counts. "He provoked the whole thing". The whole thing had been going on for three days and Kyle repeatedly tried to disengage. " He fired recklessly". All shots were fired at close proximity threats with a much higher hit ratio than any recent police shooting you can name. So at this time the propagandists are batting a flat .000, with no relief in sight.
Good thing for video evidence. Even though the prosecution tried to have an expert "enhance" (doctor) the footage, the fact that most of these videos were posted to social media so quickly after the event means that the original videos are 100% unaltered and therefore reliable. The original videos don't lie, and that's what everyone is watching from the defence team (thankfully).
I don't understand or see what this kid did wrong. Shouldn't all pedophiles deserve to be offed on the streets as often as possible? Why are they making a kid go to this trial here?
@@johntakiya8015 Because according to the Democrats, an attacker who fails in their mission to harm someone is clearly the VICTIM lol.
@Gary Warren This is probably the best summary of the case thus far. Hopefully the Jury members come to a decision based on the law rather than fear mongering and public opinion.
THE JUDGE SHOULD ORDER A PERFORMANCE AND DISCIPLINARY REVIEW OF THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS BY THE LICENSING BOARD AGAINST THEIR LICENSES TO PRACTICE LAW BY A NEUTRAL, NON-SOROS-FUNDED AUTHORITY.
Absolutely
Soros is the best thing this country has going for it. We need more billionaires to invest in this great country.
@@richardweinsteiger1285 LETS GO BRANDON! FJB!
@@richardweinsteiger1285 maybe ones that weren't trying to bring about a white genocide like he is currently doing in Europe.
Why is this case even in court?
corrupt democrats
Political case.
Because the left lost some of their most cherished Americans that night. Rioter lives matter ✊🏻🔥
Because this is what happens when you defend yourself against a Brown Shirt.
Politics just the fact that they were allowed to add he doesn’t support blm in their closing arguments shows how it made it thus far
How about the district attorney knew the barrel didn't meet the standard and still tried to prosecute him for a crime he was not breaking. After Rittenhouse sues them for defamation and constitutional violations this district attorney should be investigated by the Bar Association for completely politicizing this case. Using this case to try to make a name for them self and hurt a citizens civil rights and constitutional rights
100%
1. Charge him with prosecutorial misconduct and house him in prison with some of the people he has sent there.
2. I have always disagreed with lesser included offenses. The prosecutor should charge the individual with what he can PROVE. If he can't prove or don't charge him.
Giving lesser included offenses is giving the prosecutor a second chance without a trial.
He killed 3 people. He came with a weapon to murder. What if the dead were your dad, your uncle, your son?
@@channarosenblatt8197 he did not come there to murder.. Watch the footage from the trail and you will find out he helped a lot of people. He came to protect his father's store and to offer aid. The rioters and looters that came to burn the city down and the police not helping left a vacuum and the citizens of this country did what we do, we protect ours and others from Terrorist and that's exactly what those protesters and I used the term protesters loosely were.
@@channarosenblatt8197 I know my dad, uncle, and son. They all have the brains and situational awareness not to be burning buildings and threatening/assaulting people with AR's. Similarly, how would you feel if rittenhouse was your relative - running for his life and shooting to live? He killed 2 people, he only injured the guy who lied about pointing a gun in his face (Gauge).
Rifle total length was over 26'' barrel was 16 or longer,phony charge...Dismissed,failure to prove.
Just shows how dishonest the prosecution has been from the beginning. They knew there was no violation about the rifle, but wanted that charge given to the jury anyway, to manipulate the jury into thinking, "well, he had a bad gun, so he must be guilty".
Watching this trial, I'm shocked at how it seems impossible for someone to get a fair trial, and be treated fairly in court, if the defendant is considered "an enemy of the state" because Leftist politicians, prosecutors, and news media have smeared and defamed him for his supposed politics.
@Jose Stickman Only way an unloaded firearm is dangerous is by hitting someone on the head with it
@Jose Stickman the ridiculousness of your arguments is glaring! How is an unloaded weapon dangerous? Anything can technically be dangerous depending on how it is used! Hammer, knife, ball bat, car, hot pan of water, stairs, etc etc! It’s not hard to see that lawyers and judges have no common sense and are educated above their intellectual capacities! The laws and legal terminology in this country make it nearly impossible for anyone to receive a fair trial and any idiot can see that! Hopefully the jury, or at least one of them, has enough sense to see it, and the case will end in a unanimous not guilty verdict or a hung jury!
Any weapon is dangerous, or else it wouldn't be a weapon.
What I've gotten from watching is that the prosecution was saying the Rittenhouse rifle was somehow especially menacing and illegal because it had a barrel that by law was too short, combined with the total length of the rifle being too short. They provided no proof of such. The one witness they had who mentioned the rifle said it wasn't too short. Yet the prosecution still wanted to send that charged to the jury. The judge offered to have the rifle measured, at which point the prosecution had to concede that the rifle wasn't too short, and the judge rightly dismissed the charge.
Well, in regards to barrel length the barrel screws into the receiver. Are barrels measured starting at the end of the receiver or is the screwed in part of the barrel included in the length? If so the jury could easily measure the barrel wrong and the prosecution would know this.
Absolutely 🙏 I hope they all get dismissed 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I hope he is found innocent. He can live his life worry free due to double jeopardy clause within the 5th amendment to the Constitution.
@@janetdavidson95 Well I wouldn't say worry free. Unfortunately there are too many people out there that don't care about justice or right and wrong. They let the media do their thinking and in return will most likely try to make his life hell. It's sad, but I don't think this Kyle's life will ever be normal again.
So rediculous that this is just now getting dismissed. The statute was known all along. Anyone could have just read it. Selective reading amd reporting. Shame on the prosecution and the media
I’m guessing this was probably saved for last because the other charges were more severe and they knew this could easily be proven
You don’t really think they’ll let something as silly as facts deter them from seeking injustice do you.
It's not that simple. It comes down to how does one interpret "conformance" to a statute that does not apply to them? The rub is 29.304 which has no provision for individuals 16 and 17 years old. Are those persons "in compliance" or "not in compliance?" If one goes with "not in compliance" then by default no 16 or 17 year old can carry a long gun, even if hunting. It is unlikely the legislature wanted to bar 16 and 17 year olds from hunting while allowing their younger siblings that right. Therefore the best reading is that Kyle IS in compliance with both 29.304 and 29.593 as neither apply to him in his situation. Did the judge see it this way? I don't think he says. It's more than just barrel length.
The judge had trouble with it and sat on it till the last minute. The prosecution read it like it always had been read.The defense comes up with a screwed up version and the judge rules on it at the last minute and you blame the prosecution? Awfully fishy.
Make sure the jury's votes are counted by hand, not Dominion. And no mail-in votes allowed.
hahaahaa ...okay thats funny
Mail in ballots & Dominion 4 Beijing biden handful RINO
DISMISS ALL CHARGES,HE WOULD OF BEEN DEAD IF HE DIDNT DEFEND HIMSELF ,HE TRIES TO RUN AWAY WITH A GUN,THEY CHASED AFTER HIM TO ATTACK AN ARMED PERSON RUNNING AWAY PERIOD.....
If he stayed home he would never have been in this situation to began with. Where was his parents.
I love how he can beat up a girl on camera yet he is still called a good kid lol
An armed person. You mean an armed minor who SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD A GUN OR WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE PERIOD
@@paypa_trell5678 exactly.
@Mr.Joetatoehead no. Most of those protestors lived there. The ones he killed were adults. He was a minor.
When prosecutors file charges for things not illegal, then the state should have to pick up the legal fees for defense.
And the lawyers should be charged with misconduct, fined, and possibly disbarred. That's how you fight corruption in the legal system. If Statutory elements are CLEARLY missing you DO NOT file charges!
Right. If the defendant is not acting illegally then it sounds more than fair for them to cover the fee
@@adamthompson9785 The whole barring system is corruption. Little insider club of theirs.
All that jibber jabber to figure out something a qualified person could tell you after looking at the rifle for 60 seconds. No wonder court takes so long and cost soo much.
Yep. It's all just a bunch of rich blowhards who love hearing themselves talk sit there and talk try and justify why they are all making 6 figures. It's all a clown show.
It's all about the money they know what's going on the judges just playing games prosecution playing games the attorneys are playing games nothing but games
The craziest part to me about this debacle on this specific charge is that the rifle was purchased from a big box retailer. None of them are selling anyone a short barreled rifle or illegal weapon of any kind. At worst they could have traced the serial, gone to the retailer, pulled the form 4473 they definitely have, and seen it was of a legal length. Maybe even have the store clerk who completed the transfer to testify.
That it took this long, weeks of trial, to get to the point of them just coming clean about it not being illegally possessed is insane.
This judge is actually very efficient within the confines of the law.
@@figmentofyourimagination5359 Yep, at the expense of innocent people as well....I hate lawyers.
I think the rifle was legal for Kyle due to a basic mathematical measurement . A tape measure will easily dismiss this charge.
Depends on who's measuring... After all don't forget dims (DEMON-RATS) have claimed that
2+2=RACISM (math is RACIST)
The judge offered the prosecutor the option to either measure it or allow it to be dismissed because it wasn't proven to be a short barreled rifle.
The prosecution admitted that they knew it was within compliance and not a short barrel so measuring it wasn't necessary.
The judge dismissed that charge.
It might be hard to find anyone in that court room that can even read a tape measure unless they let Kyle measure it himself!
Depends if it is CBO math
These prosecutors can't even read a tape ruler
They just threw charges at him hooding it would stick or just give media stuff to use
And hope the Jury is ignorant of the law .....
@Jose Stickman The charge that was dismissed was concerning the Rifle being under specs for federal regulations regarding modifying a weapon..this rifle was stock and was legal under federal guidelines..
@Jose Stickman The dismissal was regarding the weapon being Illegal, under the minimum federal requirement for barrel length and overall length..
I can't believe this country has gone so haywire that the national guard needs to be called upon in reference to the verdict.
Unfortunately I can believe that, rational thinking and common sense are a rare commodity in the present day and age where lies are seen as fact and delusions are a badge of honor.
Wow. This prosecution team is flat out ridiculous, they knew that was a bogus charge and they kept going for it even though they knew it was a lie? Just wow. These prosecutors need to be disbarred and charged!!!!
I'm glad that u get it 😌
These prosecutors need to be charged and arrested. They'll charge Rittenhouse for having a short barrel after measuring it and knowing it's legal, yet still argue and try to prosecute Kyle for it anyways. What kind of a disgusting country do we live in where we allow scumbags to purposefully try to lock people up on charges they know are false?
There should be a complete audit of this case after it’s completed and they must be held accountable
Totalitarian
Not going to happen.
the bottom line is what the jury decides period.
You should hear all the pundits on HLN. Every attorney on that network is talking about how wonderful a job this prosecutor is doing.
The prosecutors now have two clearly false charges dropped. They don’t own a tape measure? Amazing!!!
Probably couldn’t operate it if they had one!
It's much more complicated than barrel length. The possession statute is awkwardly worded which is why the judge struggled with it.
Don't attack others, don't get killed.
Especially when they’re holding a weapon.
Don’t bring a skateboard to a gun fight 😂
@@EncinasPro YOLO hahaha
Dear Judge Emmett Sullivan,
This is how a judge is supposed to behave...ruling on the law, not on politics.
Great coment!!!
Imagine listening to all of that and coming to this conclusion. What a sad world.
It must have hurt the prosecutors feelings having to conclude the rifle met the requirements for it to be legal and ultimately dismissed
If I am ever charged with murder I want these prosecutors to prosecute me ( :
The kid is innocent… don’t show up looking for trouble and attacking people!!! That way someone doesn’t need to defend themselves!!!
The rioters?
People are worried about the kids defending the ISA
@@goodcoffeehelps you didn't even watch one minute of the trial, did you
Just a matter of time before "Defendent acquitted of ALL charges and CASE DISMISSED". Good riddance
Total disregard for the law on the part of the prosecution. Besides that, they are apparently only borderline literate.
@Jose Stickman Under Wisconsin Legislature 948.60 Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18 and read the exemptions part 3 section C noting if it's a rifle or shotgun rather than a short barrel you have to violate both provisions not just one and 29.304 you can only violate if you are under 16 years of age regardless of what you are doing. As such Kyle's weapon was legal for him to carry.
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(c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593.
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Then go to the below and see it's not possible to violate that part unless you are under 16.
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29.304 Restrictions on hunting and use of firearms by persons under 16 years of age.
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@Jose Stickman You might want to consider taking your own advice. If the statute is constitutionally invalid rather than just stating due to exemptions listed it doesn't apply to him that would have the same result of it not being enforceable.
I get you really wish the law was written in a way to lock up this person you feel should be in jail but wishful thinking does not change what the law was at the time of the incident being charged. If laws could be changed on the fly to allow convictions of those the state doesn't like we would have no protection under the law.
It makes sense that as written the law was not going to pass originally so exemptions that left some restrictions in place for those under 18 like not allowing short barrel riffles but allowed other riffles at 16-17 and below that with additional restrictions. This is part of the life of a bill attempting to become law. They sometimes require compromise in order to pass.
Throwing mud to see if it sticks! 3 times the prosecution ridicule Kyle for using the 5th. The Judge made a ruling, and the prosecution ignored the Judge's ruling and the constitution. Free kyle.
That skateboard swinging was a deadly dangerous weapon.. was the skateboard offered as an exhibit??
The defense tried to get the skateboard but thr family of the guy who swung refused to hand it over.
@@dtrez3866 subpoenas/warrants are optional? Interesting.
@@nicholasbarth114 I don't know. But I do know the prosecution made mention in the trial about the skateboard but I think it was the skateboard dude's sister who refused to hand it over. The defense were saying that they wished it was in evidence but it is not because the family refused to hand it over.
@@dtrez3866 that's absurd it at the scene.
@@nicholasbarth114 I'm just telling you what the defense said during the trial.
This is a fishing expedition by the prosecution team! Binger just admitted to having a personal conversation with one of the jurors, telling that juror that he/she would be the professional juror in the deciding factor the Faith of Mr. Rittenhouse's future! That's a classic case of tampering with a jury! Binger and the entire Prosecution team were Sworn to uphold the Constitution and Our Laws, unfortunately they're excusing the Actions of the real criminals in order to prosecute a kid who acted in self defense! The prosecutor's are criminal's themselves
Dismiss all charges self defense is not a chargeable action.
DA is being all quiet so he can say he lost the case "because the Judge wouldn't let him play his little games"! .... and good for him! Great Judge
You also probably believe Trumpster won too😂😂😂your a 🤡 clown
JRG- He's quiet because he's smart.
@@rudybaker8301 If he's a clown, you're the entire circus.
How the hell can a DA place a charge when he himself knows that the rifle is not considered a short barreled rifle? How????
Simply through the 'color' of law . Whether it can be proven is a different thing.
God that is despicable.
Because they're not held accountable for their actions and they don't care who's lives they destroy with their lies.
@@DonziGT230 Absolute immunity sucks.
All charges should be dropped!!
The prosecution has more holes than Joseph Rosenbaum.
😂😂😂
Ahaha, this comment was made NOT soon enough.
Just 2 more dead voters for Biden. Damn.
Is anyone watching the prosecutor right now? Is he really that dumb? “He dropped the fire extinguisher to raise his weapon”… oh the fire extinguisher he was using to put OUT FIRES?!…so he WAS there to help? It’s hilarious that the prosecutor is this bad?!
I am really disliking that prosecutor. Did you hear him go on about "lying that he was an EMT"? I didn't think he was also charged with impersonating an EMT. I follow a live streamer that carries a medic kit. That's what Kyle had as well.
Unfortunately the prosecution is even dumber!
@@deannam5072 not to mention is own witness also lied for that same reason
Yeah Kyle is guilty of one thing, wanting to help. Not sure that's against the law though.
It is being done on purpose.
Tell ‘em judge!!! This is a bs case
The prosecutors are really trying to charge him with something they know is NOT illegal. WTH.
WTF
That's what black people have been saying 🙄
@@keenanschouten2582 OH OK, yeah lets continue to bring false racism into this smfh
@@fkngr8 two sherifs just resigned for being found part of the kkk. Hiw many blacks had they falsely arrested?
@@keenanschouten2582 that has absolutely NOTHING to do with this case. Race has no business in this case. Not EVERYTHING is about race. Seems to me that if racism were still a problem that it was historically that your trying to portray that it still currently is, that President Obama would have taken steps to stomp it out. In his 8 years in office. Gtfoh
I'm so happy for Kyle!!! 💞💞💯maybe there is hope still left
Let's go Brandon
Jus changed my ring tone to Lets go Brandon
Did I interpret that right? They knew the rifle didn't meet the requirements for the charge, but made an "exception" so it could be brought to the jury anyway? How is that even legal?
they thought the lamen would go "Oh so a 17 year old cant open carry a rifle" which seems logical, but the law says they can as long as its not a short barrel -- which M&P 15s are 16" stock... (meeting state/fed requirements so they dont get sued lol)
Yup. A lot of people look down their noses at defence attorneys because they defend people who are guilty. Some prosecutors are even worse.
And the sad part is if He was a punk with a gun he would be out by now. Laughing at the justice .
These prosecutors belong on CNN and MSNBC not in court
This judge is absolutely amazing
How can a district attorney bring a charge when they know that the rifle in question was legal? Incompetence or corruption or both?
This is ridiculous and border line illegal drop all charges send him home. This is description.
UGGH SEND HIM HOME?🤨 Sean Hannity asked his mother if he goes into a similar situation in the future would he still handle it this way and she said yes that’s the type of person he is!! So they should set him free so he can do it again!?🧐🤔🤨😒
@@trebor5296 Hopefully, yeah. Ideally if he could just step in for the next 1,000 people who get attacked by radical leftists and do the exact same things each time, that would solve 99% of our country's problems.
@@trebor5296 he did nothing wrong. He was doing the right thing wish we had more young men just like him.
@@danielgriffin8132 Yes he did!! And his mother said he would do it the EXACT SAME WAY IN A SIMILAR SITUATION!! He should have STAYED HOME AND NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED!!
@@chrisdelzell8467 You and your DANGEROUS RACIST PROUD BOYS WANT AMERICA TO HAVE A CIVIL WAR!! You’re the 99% that’s RUINING THE COUNTRY!!
Hopefully these arguments are in front of the jury. The prosecution was caught looking stupid or worse in the effort to throw the book at him.
They did threaten to throw somebody out for recording the faces of jury. So it’s more then likely they are witnessing these arguments.
They're usually not discussed in front of the jury
Pray for a fair trial and Kyle is set free
Mate, can you tell me what the fks going on? From Scotland and don't know the ins/outs of this, looked it up online and still don't fully get what happened 🤷♂️ mental that 'Merica has this live streamed on youtubes 😂
We need more judges like this and way less prosecutor's like that.
Moe and Curly for the Prosecution. Larry figure out how to read a tape measure and didn't show up for this last debacle.
Prosecution should have been held in contempt. Their conduct is pathetic and wastes the valuable time of the court. Measure it to find out the answer to the question in the courtroom, simple as that.
Should’ve just called it a “prop gun” charges dismissed
Ha! Legally allowed to have the gun at 17 because of barrel length. Kyle dotted all I and T’s, no crime here except for the guy that pointed a gun at Kyle, the guy that threatened to kill Kyle, & the guy that hit Kyle in the neck with 🛹
Gonna be hilarious how the lefties react when our boy Kyle walks free
But what if the jury sends their ballots by mail?
@@rebeccabush9391 🤣😂
I don’t think right or left has anything to do with this.
@@rebeccabush9391 or goes through a machine.
The judge will make sure. Victims can't be called victims. Defense can call them rioters & looters. Sounds fair to me! There will be an investigation into this judge who should be removed from the justice system.
They should all be dismissed..FJB
As a retired police officer this is very troubling. I would never pursue charges against someone’s liberty or freedom if I could not find elements of an offense to file charges against an individual. I’m not understanding the criminal justice system anymore I guess.
The prosecution has gone from being defeated by their own witnesses to now being shown up by a tape measure. lol. Free Kyle!
This makes me sick. Criminals now have more rights in America
criminals? Which criminal? He is innocent. This country has law and order as much as you want to believe this kid is guilty but he is not. He was attacked and he did self defense. The cross examination showed when they asked one of the witnesses that he chases him and when he pointed the gun at him was the time he pull the trigger. This is self defense in United States. You don’t like these laws then simply move to any other countries doesn’t have these laws so your won’t get sick. Simple
@@pouya2002 I think he means the rioters.
Oh make sense now. I thought they meant to say that he is a criminal. Sorry
Rioters and pedophiles have the rights?
Boy oh Boy! The prosecution just hit another one outa the park for the defence. Great job Boys, pretty soon you'll be standing there with nothing but your "briefs". LOL
This prosecution needs to be removed from ever practicing law again! EVER! The statutes are right there in black and white. It is not a maybe it is, maybe it is not. It is NOT a SBR!! Period!! A simple tape measuring event, that even a 2nd grader could do, will prove without a doubt, that this rifle does NOT fall under the guidelines set forth by the ATF on SBR's. This whole fiasco should have been dismissed from the very beginning by the Judge! Clearly self defense all day long!
Can't they see? It's all about the 2 amendment rights to defend yourself!
Has everyone in that DA office been huffing paint? Never seen such behavior.
I understand the whole rioting stuff and everyone trying to bring attention to the problem with cops getting away with murder, but this was 100% self defense , a lot of people will disagree saying he should have never had an AR next to rioters but imagine what would've happened to him if he didn't have his gun, they would've stomped the kids face in without a doubt , he was scared for his life , got hit in the head with a skate board , kicked in the face with boots on and had a Whole HANDGUN pointed at his head (mind you he had already heard gunshots from another person). The guy with the handgun literally said himself that this kid didn't show any aggression towards anyone , he was asking people if they needed medical attention etc . Do I have to remind everyone that 100% of the people that didn't try harming him didn't get shot. My condolences go out to the families that lost their loved ones and it's a VERY unfortunate situation, but the proof is in the pudding.
I agree with every single word u spoke but understanding the rioting..there are many ways other than violence and burning down innocent peoples businesses .this is their livelihood..how they provide for their families..and the many employees who work there..they had nothing to do with anything so why make them suffer? Why put innocent people in harm's way to prove a point .they were snatching people out of their cars..blocking the roads..jumping on cars with kids inside..thats not acceptable and not the proper way to get your point across..but everything else u said is right on the money and I agree 100 percent
Ever heard of collateral damage?
This idea that Kyle would have been killed had he not have a weapon is a logical fallacy. You're totally dismissing that he would have never been a target for violence if he was simply running around with a medic bag to help people. Appearing in a protest against police with an AR-15 on the side of police is provocation by itself. He chose a side and became a target when he could have quietly helped people and put out fires. So, we have no idea what would have happened, but since we're playing a game of assumptions one can assume no one would be dead that night if it wasn't for Kyle Rittenhouse being there that night with a firearm.
@@Bangs_Theory talk about logical fallacies yet your automatically saying KR picked sides
@@attiliobociccio6963 Your comment lacks refutation, try again.
Prosecution can't seem to keep their story straight and can't seem to stop contradicting themselves
Not helping their case 🤣😂
I mean they had something on “he was the aggressor” their own witness proved that wasn’t true and now they are back to square one and had hours to come up with a new story😂
That prosecutor need to be disbarred or made an attorney for something besides criminal law or with the state
Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero
Heroe? More like a punk that the police allowed to patrol the streets with a weapon and kill two people, not even arresting him on site. This after he was caught on audio where he stated he wanted to shoot looters and caught on video helping another punk beat a girl. By the way, after the shooting caught on video having a beer with the Proud Boys while putting up a white supremacist sign. The judge did not permit that evidence in court, but it reflects Kyle's behavior and personality. I worked a career by military heroes; Kyle is a punk that went looking for trouble in another state and killed two people. And yes, he will probably get away with it, and kill again.
@@felixcoqui cry more 😢😭 wahh wahh
He needs to be free
@@felixcoqui you are so falsely informed that I actually feel bad.
@@felixcoqui I guess you should be the prosecutor in trial then since you know so much
The whole fkn case should be dismissed
The fat guy really didn't want to admit it. It all comes out in court. This case has shown how the media have covered loads of things up to sway the court of public opinion. That prosecution team should be removed immediately & investigated. I can see a lot of lawsuits stemming from this.
I hope the judge recommends to the board that these clowns be disbarred. They have been egregiously out of bounds for multiple things. Witness intimidation, wrongful charges, introducing evidence that was not allowed, questioning the defendant's right to silence.... it's just crazy
I have a feeling that they wanted it to go to the jury, even though the length it's a simple fact of measuring the length, because they know that jurors sometimes "bargain" on charges. ie: Well I'll agree to say guilty on this if you say he was guilty on that. It's total BS that that happens, but it does.
To a non gun person it isn't that simple. The barrel screws into the receiver. Do they measure starting at the end of the receiver or is the screwed in part of the barrel included in the length? Not knowing the jury could measure barrel wrong. Prosecution knows this.
@@rosssmith9870 interesting way to think about it. I'm glad the judge could see past that BS
A lot of lefties will need safety blankets and a large corner when he is found not guilty
I hope so but juries are unpredictable and the prosecutor is willing to lie to make the case stick.
All the blankets to be supplied by the national guard.
This is taking forever. Let the kid go home already. We saw the videos at every angle! What else is there to talk about?
Self defense case however sad 🙏 for justice
Letting the jury measure the barrel length. Did I hear that right, that it was even a consideration. A jury is not qualified to measure the length of a barrel, especially because they have no idea where the barrel begins and ends per the legal definition. If they measure it wrong, which they certainly will, the length would appear less than 16". If this was an unmodified, OEM Smith M&P then the very reputable company has already done the measuring, and anything past that is a waste of time.
It's a big assumption to say the jurors don't understand the gun laws, or how to measure the length of the barrel. What makes any of them less knowledgeable than you?
@@robgionet9582 Maybe they are, maybe they are not, but you can't leave that to chance when someone's life is on the line.
This is what happens when partisan politics, the law and personal agendas collide.
So wait, the prosecution knew that the weapon did not qualify as a short barreled rifle. Yet they still went forward with the charge?
The day will come when the people will regain their rightful place in society and throw the book at these corrupt snakes in turn to see what sticks.
"We don't agree with the definition".... Well it isn't your job to disagree with what is considered an SBR.
Judge, we're not disputing the facts. However, we would still like the jury to deliberate on the charge because facts are sometime inconvenient...
So they don't believe the ATFs' definition of a "short barreled rifle" is appropriate??? Well that actually IS their definition, much the same as their definition of ' murder '.
Correction: the count was not for use of a dangerous weapon - it was for possession of an dangerous weapon by a minor.
This was dismissed because there were exemptions listed in the law itself that made it legal.
So many people in previous video comments hinged their entire arguments on him illegally possessing a firearm. This is a great moment.
I believe he was still to young to have it though. But for sure 100% he is not guilty of murder.
@@debrusk519 The "illegality" rested on two issues-
1) did he bring the rifle over State lines?
No, it was already in Wisconsin, as proven in the beginning of the trial.
2) was the rifle a restricted weapon due to type and size for Kyle's age?
Apparently, not.
If Wi. allows minors to possess long rifles and his AR meets the requirements, than it's not illegal.
@@debrusk519 you can be 16 or 17 in Wisconsin and carry a rifle or shotgun.
@@johnpatrick1647 ahh I stand correct I missed that.
@@debrusk519 That's what most people who argued this think but its not against the law
It’s not a short barrel rifle only when the judge says ok let’s measure it lmao
SIMPLE CLEAR CASE OF JUSTIFIED USE IN SELF DEFENSE OF DEADLY FORCE PERIOD
One by one, the false charges fall
I love this judge. He is representing himself with honor.
He does have bias, and the bias is justice. He is legally eliminating all the non-sense these prosecutors are bringing. He knows he’s under the lens of the nutties right now, just waiting for him to make a mistake so they can start the lynching. We all see the scheming these crooked ass prosecutors have done. I think he truly enjoys being the voice for us and the voice for justice.
So true!!
This shouldn’t even be in a court of law!
This trial reminds me of Monty Python, "She's a WITCH!! BURN HER!!" trial. I wonder if the DA is going to use the "If Kyle weighs the same as a duck, he's got to be a white supremist!" argument?
Should not even be a trial! Thankful for brave upholders of justice like the these defense attorneys and the judge!
Judge is determined to get as fair a trial as possible for this kid and we thank him for this
Wow, a fake charge from a prosecutor?
So it shows the lack of morals and downright dishonesty when the prosectuors knew it was legal, and yet still wanted to include the charge.
These people should be on trial for trying to falsify a charge against Kyle.
Kyle is a hero we need more kits like him
I think these prosecutors are totally incompetent! Waste of time!!! Case dismissed!!!
“Don’t believe your lying eyes!” -Prosecution
So the prosecutor doesn’t know the law or how to use a tape measure? LGB
No matter what side you support, it will go down in history. Really a strange series of events, no judgement really of either side. I just feel bad for Kyle for having to have gone through these circumstances. I felt for him when he was crying
You felt bad for a guy who’s white and got away with murdering two people?
@@DanielGarcia-ro6lq I feel bad for the circumstances of a a teenager who had to make an adult decision.
@@aztecwarrior9511 you mean the circumstance he put himself in?
@@NoizeTank everyone asks why he was there when they didn't ask why those three were there
@@aztecwarrior9511 they were protesting. Kyle was there to do what? A policeman’s job across state lines?
Surely this charge should never have been brought?
"I'm not going to rehash that ... "
means he doesn't know what to say.
Since when does a jury determine law?
When they vote by mail...