EXCLUSIVE!! | A Future Addition to YOUR BUSHCRAFT GEAR?? | Introducing you to the Tactical Tarp
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- I take a FIRST EVER look at something being used by specialist military forces. This tactical tarp is due to be on the civilian market soon and is quite possibly the future of bushcraft gear.
This is the Tactical Insulated Tarp System designed and created by Brigantes.
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Here in Norway they have a similar product called a fjellduk (mountain cover) by a company called Jerven(wolverine) which has been used by hunters and the Norwegian services for +-30 years....amazing piece of kit, versatile and very hard wearing with a 10 yr guarantee 😳. Love the channel keep up the good work 😎
I use a very similar method to your secret Velcro one. If ever I hit my thumb with a rock inserting pegs I invariably end up squealing like a pig, causing the surrounding wild life to think "Phew, it's just a pig putting up a tarp" Cheers Nick.
I use an Army surplus blanket as a capote wrap as in the N American style so it acts as a coat
Add a poncho to that and you are waterproof, either as a poncho, wrap, or tarp
For $40...
And it works very well
Great video. Interesting bit of kit. You may want to take a look at the Helikon Tex swagman roll. Blanket, sleeping bag, poncho and under quilt for a hammock in one. Works inside a poncho as a liner too. Superb bit of kit, poncho when sitting around camp, extra warmth at bedtime. 👍🏼
I was thinking the same. Ideal for high seats on a deer stalk.
It would be interesting to compare this to a jerven, they are both in the same price bracket (depending on which Jerven version) and I suspect the Jerven is a more adaptable concept (removable liner etc). I toyed with the idea of a Jerven, but thought I wouldn't get the use for the price, so I bought a swagman roll and poncho instead....brilliant bit of kit. I've used the swagman as a lightweight sleeping bag, a sleeping bag inner, a blanket, as a bivi liner, as a poncho liner (thought its a bit too warm it in UK). Now that I've got the swagman I really don't see the need for these more expensive concepts.
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 In the stuff sack it packs down to same size as the jungle sleeping bag (smaller than the lightweight) but with a little extra effort it packs into its own pocket even smaller. Weighs 745g. It is water resistent but won't stand up to a downpour, so you need to pack a poncho too. As a sleeping bag I've found it about as warm as the lightweight bag on its own, if a little more 'snug', which I quite like!
I have a swagman and a jerven with the lighter insulation. Both went on my camp with me last week. Super toasty.
Very nice piece of kit! It seems to be inspired by the Jerven Fjellduken, which is incredibly useful in the colder months. I really like the dual sides of your tarp. The camouflage side is quite reminiscent of an old WW2 era Sumpftarn (swamp or marsh) camouflage. It is a very effective pattern. Cheers,
Jess
yes I would prefer the Jerven Bag
Why reinvent the wheel when there is a tried and tested product
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 All the same, great piece of kit. 🤝
I've got a 243cm x 143cm version of the Jerven mountain bag (also got a smaller one), and it's my main tent/tarp/poncho/post hunting tool.
It makes you feel we've finally beat nature properly.
As several other comments already suggest, this product is very similar to the norwegian Jervenduk. What is interesting about this, is that members of the norwegian military use this piece of equipment to make a shelter that we like to call a cocoon. To do this you just suspend the two corners to two trees or a ridgeline so that its barely above the ground or slightly touching. When you lay a sleeping pad inside and lay down in it its essentially a suspended tube ( still on the ground), but because of the zippers you can protect yourself from all sides, its waterproof and insolated and becomes a shelter and sleeping system in one, and takes little time to put up. «top tip» if you suspend it with the zippers up its easier to climb in but during heavy rain its recommended to have the zipper facing down and crawl in from the sides. I bet you could put this model up in a similar matter. I dont know if this model you have is as warm as the jervenduk but we rangers in the norwegian army can sleep in cocoons during the winter without sleeping bags. Would love to see you test out that model in this fashion. Love the channel and keep up the good work.
This video was recommended to me about April, and with the Tactical Insulated Tarp, aka T.I.T. for short. I thought it was an April fools joke, turned out to be pretty useful bit of kit in certain cases. Keep up the good videos! :)
Looks pretty good for all you fishermen out there 😉
Would have loved that for when I was in NI on ops sitting for days in a hedge.
Looks good. Funny thing is when I first saw the camo pattern all I could think was that it looked like the camo used in the movie "Return of the Jedi" when they were in the forest.
Still looks like it would work, just funny.
I was thinking dennison pattern WWII camo
Return of the Jedi might have been the inspiration 😉
GREAT BIT OF KIT NICK IF THE SPECIALISED MOUNTAIN TROOPS ARE USING IT IT MUST BE WORTHY AWESOME SNEAK PEAK HAVE AN AWESOME DAY... 🤗
Pretty neat. I can definitely see this doing a job for folks working or living outdoors in the colder months. Multi use items are definitely the way to go to save space/weight, even if they may not do each job individually as well as specialist bits of kit.
Great video, interesting bit of kit. Be interesting to hear how it holds up on a icy/frosty☃️ day.
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 Thanks will be good to see how it hold up as it’s currently a pricey bit of kit👍
I think it also needs a label that says "This way up" or, something that you can see in low light. You dont want to be mucking around in the dark trying to get in on properly. I do like the rest of it though and agree with your analysis. 👍
Looks like another modified poncho liner and choices in the market are good but the swagman roll and the mountain serape look alot more comfortable to wear. Their zipper could be fixed with a reversible pull tab and agree that it could use couple more tie down points
Essentially a Jervenbag. I have had one for years.Much heavier but then it has a lot more insulation (for use in Scandinavia, so makes sense) and it is physically larger.
Toby the insulation should be comparable if not greater than the Jerven. The intent was to take the concept of the Jerven and make it lighter, more packable and better suited to fast and light operations.
Hello Nick. I think the four-sided shape is called a Trapezoid. Just saying.
I'll get my coat on the way out.
Small, light and waterproof. Living off of a motorcycle and sleeping in the wilderness this ticks a lot of boxes, especially now winter is here. Really don't like the white though and would like to see how it performs in the rain/long term. Nice review mate!
1:03 - it has a camo side.
@@buttheyreinvestmentsdear3132 That is a saving grace. It's just that I'm stealth camping most of the time, so for me, the white side is a liability. I guess it won't stay white for long!
Snow
@@FoxADV interesting m8 do ya just bike around the country....what do ya do for cash food etc....sorry for asking...just seems like alot of peeps are doing this an rebelling modern society, and I 4 1 can't blame em....Great review too...
@@margueritemitchell1829 Indeed!
Ive run 'tuck tape' along zippers to avoid that pinch. Blue is stronger than red (and less conspicuous).
I like keeping a couple tarp clamps which help for odd setups and weigh very little.
I knew the "tactical velcro" thing was coming, yet it still cracked me up 🤣 Great stuff Nick!
interesting concept. but i can't stop thinking that a side opening lightweight proofed sleeping bag sewn into an old basha/poncho would do the same thing👍
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 sounds like a plan!
Great video as always Nick. It's on my kit list when the price drops a bit and, will come in handy when SWMBO kicks me out of the motorhome after I've had a skinful. 👍
Some woman my brother owns? Never seen that acronym lol.
@@OldNavajoTricks She Who Must Be Obeyed
Lolz! 😁👍
Lol, Goddamned Sundaybrain letting me down haha :-D
For one, there is the fjellduken. Might be interesting to compare. Second there is a way cheaper alternative. Take a Poncho and a woobie and you're good to Go vor a fraction of the price. Never was disapointed with it and If need be you can light a candle inside.
Great piece of kit Nick, anything light weight and for cold weather will be expensive because of the types of materials used, I believe (and I do not want to upset anyone) if you can't afford the right kit to stay safe, don't go.
It is better to be safe than hoping you can get rescued, we go out for fun, I think it is a good price for what it can do compared to other products for the same conditions.
ps if any of your mates are on the artic patrols and should happen to lose one I'm sure we can come to an agreement. 😂
Chears Nick,, 👍👍☕
I have a helikon tex Swagman roll, very similar, very useful, I use it as a summer sleeping bag and a winter liner also as a general around camp wearable blanket.
I heard that its difficult to use as a sleeping bag if you're broad shouldered. Is that your experience?
@@robertsadler9079 yes as a sleeping bag it is quite tight at the shoulders but I only ever use it in the summer and having the top quarter unzipped but held in place by an elastic toggle that is there can help overcome this.
I've noticed they've gone up in price recently, I don't think I'd have paid the asking price now. They do a cheaper swagman "basic" the difference I think is only the outer fabric material is different and pockets are missing.
I love my swagman but it is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none, very versatile but sometimes a bag is better, I can recommend the snugpak jungle bag for a lightweight summer bag they do a jungle blanket too.
Back in the '90's professional footballers had something akin to a body sized crisp packet to climb into during breaks in cold weather training. Interesting how the best ideas keep evolving. Would be keen to see a 48hr test review. And just for Christmas, a tactical velcro removal special if you please!
Finally a product that competes with the jerven bag, and varusteleka's clones. Let's hope prices come down !
Thanks mate. Good video. I'll look for this to hit the market.
I use a Deer Bleat when I do stuff like that. Good practice for Deer season.
First thing I noticed is that beast of a wooly pully ..... ¼ zips are my favourite, I guess it's real wool, where can I get one?
Ok found it... Pinewood Hurricane half zip sweatshirt
Thank you very much 😎
Have a look online for clingon tarp clips. Really useful kit that can be used with any tarp to add a tie down wherever you need one. Once finished with, just unclip it.
Good job editing and keeping the information moving.
When pitching it as a A frame tarp if you ran the zip half way along you could peg the center on at least one side.
On the white side if you’re wearing it or using it in the snow that big black pocket is giving ya away. Maybe a white mesh pocket instead of black mesh to keep it all white. ~Bob, PA, USA
Great review Nick and an interesting piece of kit, as others have mentioned not dissimilar to the Jerven. That camo reminds me a bit of the German WW2 splinter cam.
As always, a good honest review of equipment..
Interesting special forces skirt or kilt we wear pants hunting in the States. As a shelter with both ends open it wouldn’t be that warm. Yes having your arms out is great for guard duty better than a sleeping bag but they could just change the zipper design and add arm holes and a two pice zip for the main bag. Warmer and not carrying a second bag . Have fun and stay safe.
Looks a handy piece of kit,, but a bit Gucci for me, a wee tarp/poncho and a snugpack jungle blanket does it for me, with some bungy cord, sinching things up, having kit that is multi purpose, really helps, or as a backup, all very well, having great gear, till the weather conspires, then its good to have additional options.
As some of your audience has commented upon already that this prototype is similar to the jerven fjellduken; which is about 500g heavier.
I would suspect Brigantes will continue to develop this bit of kit in order to appeal to the hunter-gatherer market as well as to the MODUK for their SF. Early days.
Certainly would be on my wish list Nick.
Good appraisal.
You are right about the weight difference. There is also a big difference in packed volume. This first edition does have available stock to support trials but we have made them available to the general public as we think it is a really functional product.
@@matthewwilliams2064 Thanks for that mate.
That looks ok if it comes out at a decent price. The Brigantes website looks canny too. Oh, and I love the abbreviation for the system😄
I've been like looking at similar stuff from Finland and even surfer fleece type garments that zip up and have a water/showerproof outer covering. Thanks for posting.
Tactical Insulated Tarp System, you say? I'm quite fond of those as it happens.
I severed in Recon/LRS in the Army and grew up hunting. Being able to sit static for long periods of time we’re not easy in the winter for us. Because of weight, we were forced to just wrap up in our poncho liners that were designed and rated for tropical or hot weather zones. About 15 years ago I received the Felljegen camo hid system. Which is similar to this. Although, it uses a reflective inside that really keeps you warm. And it comes with sleeves to help keep your lower arms warm and camo on the outside of the system. The camo is also much better. This really seems like a swagman roll from Helicon system. It’s not bad. But sadly over priced. I’m sure the Mountain warfare people behind this could have come up with something just as good for cheaper. My Kifaru poncho liner is cheaper and can do the same???
We call those Ponchos in the US.
My concerns would be condensation and weight.
I think it's probably good when it's very cold.
I like the breathable shell idea with adjustable layers underneath.
I almost wonder if they could add some loops to the fabric to act as extra tie-out points and spots where scrim or foliage can be placed to increase the camouflage. Give the user plenty of options.
Can second the comment regarding Jervan bag. Did actually make my own version using pertex outer down onto a USMC woobie blanket!
Very interesting piece of gear !!
Hello mi friend an thanks for sharing this. It's a great bit of kit. Very useful an the camouflage is good. Tc Andy
Fantastic review, I think wearing it in a LUP roll appeals more to me than a tarp but saying that a great all rounder.
This seems to be potentially the soldier new recce blanket? Do you remember the old US Army poncho liner British soldier used to crow about, the quilted blanket in the old US woodland camo pattern that rolled up small but gave you a good insulation even when wet/damp? This reminds me of that but with the little extras like zipping yourself into it, arm holes etc. Maybe the white/camo would not be best suited to temperate ops, perhaps camo/khaki? If I was wet, cold and potentially sitting in the back of a troop carrying vehicle (TCV) for a while this would be an absolute dream.
the US army originally trialed this concept back in the 1980s,
think it was even on limited issue for awhile but was to expensive and dropped.
The Germans and Austrians played with the idea of sleeping bags with arms or arm holes that could be worn (no tarp feature thou) and walked about in.
To me this looks like a stripped down, lightweight Jerven bag .... i have a primaloft king size jerven (silly expensive) it could and has be used as a 2-3 season sleeping bag but for winter i tend to use it as a double size bivi bag, (its not perfect, as it has mild condensation issues, think it is more suited to snowy conditions rather than the wet uk) ... i would recommend testing this out before you plan to use it, you might be able to get away with a jungle bag or softie suit inside it even in a UK winter)
OMM make some good kit - the Kamleika jacket is a fell running classic. Quality (specifically durability) of their jackets has sadly decreased in recent years though so hopefully this holds up to abuse.
I'm not military but I can see the compromises probably make sense if it's a single item for sniper duties and as a shelter. Otherwise I wonder if it's competitive with a £35 DD tarp as a pure shelter. I guess the insulation does nothing with the standard tarp conf, and probably too small to do many of the other, more enclosed tarp set-ups? Another interesting video, many thanks!
Nice kit! 💜
So interesting moving between communitys...
Its a bit funny to se things that are a couple of years old (materials and sutch) in the thrue hike/ultralight community are "new" to the "tactical community".
As a ultralight hiker and a active serving Marine its so interesting how far behind the tactical/milirairy community are...
We need to get that base weight down in the militairy! That material are still quite heavy to me, but its a step in the right direction. (700g are heavy in the ultralightcommunity, but its right on par for a synthetic product and that design benefis from being synthetic so good choice. I prefer synthetic even if its a bit heavyer as an insulation)
According to physiotherapists research thats bean done in the swedish militairy and confirmed by civilian studys you should not carry more then 15% of your body weight...
For me thats about 15kg...
If I put on my kit and backpack at work at the marines its about 42kg total...
There's the answer to a lot of the injuries service staff gets...
In combat terms there is a slight issue with body warming gear in cold environments. And that is that you stand out like a sore thumb under infra red or thermal imaging optics.
8:13 day of the tentacle! 👍😂
Like I said mate, Ally AF 😄👍👍 I knew exactly what was coming with the velcro part, my Fiancée looked at me like a freak when I copied you exactly as you did it haha 🤣👍
Looks mint something I would look more into and get in the future for sure thanks mate
Another great vid Nick. Flash bit of kit with niche market as you say. Boffins hopefully take on your advice. I’ve got the same zipper syndrome. 😂😂 From a non-milspec perspective, from a hunting/bushcraft POV, (which I’m yet to test to full extent in colder months in Aus), is Helikon swagman roll coupled with poncho. Combined to be similar to the Tactical, or even more versatile, separate for shelter (poncho) and sleep system, (liner, hammock under quilt, blanky I’ve opted for basic as their are x2 types as you’d know. But if you want to watch your coin and like versatility, in my opinion, great option.
Keep up the good work mate. And yes, my Barney Rubble fingers hit the send again before I finished. 🤣🤝👍👌🇦🇺
This looks like a lightweight insulated jerven bag. Kinda a cross between the Helion-Tex swagman and the jerven truth be told. Yeah, when the price comes down, I might try to get one of these bags for the times the jerven is overkill.
I can see where it'd have much to recommend itself if you are severely limited in what kit you are able to carry. I'm not a fan of zippers in this set up... snaps, velcro, or even lace up. Good show !
Velcro, especially long sections, I would have thought would be non-tactical for the original intended users, maybe for civilian versions, but I do not personally like Velcro, even using the tactical technique shown on this channel, too noisy, I like to be quiet in the woods or field, like to be stealthy, avoiding scaring the wildlife, or alerting people who might try to do harm. Hard to trust people these days, better to be super careful. Better to be like the animals of the forest. Quiet snaps, I have seen these when joining a poncho liner to a poncho in many configurations, possibly bungee cord and loops or toggles, bungee cord would aid suspension too and take the wind shock when used as a shelter, lace-up using ball bungee or toggle bungee in short sections might work, but long cord lace-up would again be non tactical and slow when needing to bug out or in an emergency. I am a fan of bungee cord as it has multi uses and takes the wind shock strain out of fabrics under tension. Just mho, I am no expert but I have made a lot of my own gear and we learn by mistakes. I made many. Stay safe everyone
A great review! No doubt it's a VERY sexy piece of kit. I like the versatility & weight but the camo pattern could be improved (IMHO) However, for GPB 350 I'll put up with the extra weight of my Jerven fjellduken "hunter" bag. Keep up the great work
excellent concept and a pretty cool design, it reminds me of ww2 german tank camo wierdly. not so sure about having stark white backing camo, but a winter in norway with the snow and pine cover it would work well. would it do well as a basha? or quick deploy ghillie/sniper hide, i can think of so much fun to be had with that system combined with other kit. great content as always Nick.
Maybe use the pebble tie off method? Its hard to tell if the construction of the tarp would deal well with that.. plus the local zip being an issue. All the same its a decent looking design.
What we're waiting for is a camo dyneema tarp in mtp!
In mild conditions I would rather use a separate tarp or a poncho in addition to a poncho liner that doubles up as sleeping bag just like a HeliconTex swagman pro does. When you set up camp you’re losing your insulation unless you’re carrying an additional sleeping bag around. In that case you still have your insulation only in form of your sleeping bag. I simply doubt that this insulated tarp provides enough insulation against windchills.
But that’s only what I’d do and I’m not a soldier in arctic conditions.
The white is reflecting heat back toward you.
Lovely bit of kit definitely in the buy once cry once range for me .I like the old polish lavvu exactly for it’s duel use and very durable quality’s but definitely not light weight tho lol .another brilliant informative video thanks nick 💪🏕👍🔥🥩
Hi nick great Video as usual really good product for winter stay safe and well
That white 'liner' is exposing itself consistently in the woodland. In that respect the dual use is compromised.
When you went into the field.,
it caught against some dry twigs and things..
Does it have any Tear Resitance?
It looks quite delicate...
Not a deal breaker but something to be aware of when donning it.
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 Good.. good..
It Should be considered.. but we cannot be clumsy either?
As always outstanding video keep up the fantastic work 🤚🤚👍👍
Hi Nick, I'm new to the channel, and am slowly building useable kit. More importantly, the sweater your wearing in the vid ? Where did you get it ? Woollen ? I want something more breathable than the usual fleece.
Great channel. Keep the vids coming.
That super spec ops velcro removal procedure is top notch! 😂 gets me everytime! The durrability of the bag does worry me a bit. And i’m not convinced about the multi purpose use. I do think you sweat like a pig in it. Not sure if that’s a plus. Nice change of subject there Nick! A suggestion maybe: Could you make a episode about axe use for bushcraft? Could be a series..
The feedback you are giving is exactly what they want..
And also the useful feedback within the comments..
The middle tension point is ESSENTIAL for such a small thing..
The end result will hopefully include that ...and a SNAG PROOF ZIP DESIGN
Utterly brill👍
The way you were sitting showed a whole heap of the white reversible side in your sniper hide! A nice bulls-eye, or should I say "balls-eye" for an enemy to aim at. Ouch! :-)
Maybe it would work well in the Canadian Shield terrain … i can hardly wait for it to be available in Canada … i would use it for hunting whitetail deer … Thank you for this video!
Reminds me of a Hilleberg Bivanorak, and the cam reminds me of the old pre dpm para smock, or something like fuzzy Norwegian cam pattern
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 When you had this laid out like an A shelter, I noticed a repetition of the brown shape which draws the attention, not a good point for a cam item surely, random would seem to be better. Anything that breaks the rule of cam regarding shape needs addressing, but being a prototype I guess that is well in hand. Nice idea, maybe adding loose sleeves and a hood/mantle (similar to those worn by monks or people in mediaeval times) would enhance it. My Jerven bag in conjunction with ponchos and snow poncho worked well, both very lightweight. Jerven is heavier though. Jerven means Wolverine, an animal supreme in any weather.
A cuban fiber poncho liner with tie out straps and zippers ? A good upgrade , maybe. But I understand that cuban fiber does not have a longterm durability that military gear needs.
Nick deploys the tactical velcro opening .. automatic like from me
Next level stuff
Reminds me a little of the Helikon Tex Swagman Roll Poncho.
Looks great but for the money you can get a swag man roll and a matching poncho and have a lot more options but that’s just my opinion
Tactical..
Insulated...
Tarp....
System...
... Well I'm sold on the acronym.
Brilliant and Insightful, practical review..../ preview..
really good job..
consice too..
(it might be fun to see a longer video for an extra or Patreon add on though... it did feel like there was more to view)?
But for the job in hand..,? Refreshingly to the point while still retaining engagement..
I just founded this channel and Im loving the content! Is it possible for you to show different skills and especially sleeping in winter/arctic conditions?
I own a swagman roll and in my head I was comparing it to that the entire time.
Awesomeness 🤘❤️
Check out Nate Morrison on how much to carry on a ruck march. He wrote a fascinating book called "Combat Conditioning". Based on his calculations, you were carrying far too much on your winter hike. I'd love to know if you agree with Nate or not.
Buy the helicon poncho liner, cheap and practical.
The Camo reminds me of Rhodesian brushstroke
Is there a NSN for this ?.Really good to see a video review of this bit of kit that i have only heard about in conversation.
Spent half the vid creasing up and the other thinking… actually pretty good but if kit! Also racking my brains where I heard that Velcro joke before.
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 😂
Nice show and tell there Nick informational like the tarp looks like a poncho liner but with zippers and tie down loops. 👏👍 that Tactical Velcro Removal Technique sounds like it works didn’t hear 👂 it at all so it works 😂🤣 👍👌✌️🪖🇺🇸
That's pretty cool. It's inspired me to want to do a similar, static test with a half segment of my Hungarian laavu 👍😁
Cool piece of kit that
How did you make that sound to cover the Velcro scratch, with your mouth? Also this looks like the Helikon Tex Swagman roll, have you tried it?