The Hyundai i30N Review - Part 1: It's Good, But...
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2019
- The #Hyundai #i30N is a masterpiece. Everyone keeps saying how good it is. So good is it, that it has taken many months of trying to convince Hyundai to lend theirs to me.
Finally, I got my hands on one - so let's see just how good it really is.
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Owned one since March, it still manages to put a smile on my face 2700 miles later 😁😁
The only thing that worries me about this car is the MPG
I've had mine for 2 weeks, put 600km on it so far and currently averaging 8.6L/100km. It's nearly broken in so I'll get to stretch it soon.
@@donkeysunited that's quite decent tbh. Has that been in N mode or just normal?
Oh definitely Normal mode! I've heard that full N mode and hard driving can push it over 20 L/100km (whatever that is in mpg). If you can avoid aggressive accelerating and braking, it's reasonably ok on the fuel. Not great, but reasonable for the kind of car it is.
Do you ever wish it had more power?
30 shirts in 1 shirt, that's brilliant...
It's an impressive piece of kit, as the Brits like to say.
Regular, solid content! This channel is getting seriously good 👍🏼
I've recently test driven the i30N and the salesman is a Silverstone racing instructor with loads of racing and instructing experience he has even worked as an instructor at the Nürburgring and he made several points about the suspension setup. Road driving use normal and leave it alone, some UK tracks you could use the sport setting and Silverstone is smooth enough for N mode damping. If you were lapping the Ring though leave it in normal. Also the softer LSD setting is helpful in road use as it gives a bit more steering feel but either is fine.
Fabulous cars. I've had mine for 6 months now, put 6,000 miles on it and it's been brilliant. So much fun to lob down a good bit of road, and inspires bags of confidence. Albert Biermann knows what he's doing.
I have owned one for a couple of years now. It is the most fun I have had driving a car since I drove the original Mini back in 1982. The handling is out of this world. I took a bend(30%) at around 60-70 miles an hour and it did not even hint at losing grip. I am too chicken to push it any further as if i smash it up, then its me who loses out. I recommend it so much. One thing if you are not familiar with LSD, then you will soon enough when you go round a tight corner. There are two stories going around about the meaning of "N". One is Nurburgring where it was tested and the second is that it is the first letter of the Korean city that is the home of Hyundai.
Did I read correctly that the i30N pops and bangs are actually part of an anti-lag system as in rally cars? If true that's pretty cool that they're not just engineered for the sake of sound
If it's turbo on the engine the pops are indeed turbo lag pops, it happens for many reasons. But yes on the N cars it is because of that.
They are engineered for the sake of sound. The anti-lag system that uses ignition cuts, doesn’t work the same as real anti-lag in rally cars which is a direct intake on the turbo manifold.
I own this car and I am blown away at Hyundai's first attempt at a genuine hot hatch. A couple gripes include a mediocre stereo system and a boring interior- particularly the doors and front dash. Also no rear AC vents or USB charge points or an extendable centre console. Other than those minor gripes, this car is phenomenal. Genuinely surprised at how well it handles corners and how composed and refined it is. The car feels solid and planted, barely noticeable wind or tyre noise from inside and the exhaust is great, turns heads constantly. I bought mine in Polar White fully optioned, including the panoramic sunroof (highly recommend). I 100% agree with the steering and comparing it to the Golf GTI which I've driven, it is definitely better. I wish to get it tuned in the coming months.
What about passenger comfort? Can you have a couple of old people in the back seats for a couple of hours without turning them into "sacks of bone"?
@@larsulven1852 I've never had any elderly people in the back but I've sat in the back and I'm 6 feet tall, leg room is fine and so is headroom, if you have 3 in the back then obviously it will be a bit of a squeeze. But for an elderly person, it will be more than fine. Recommend testing it out yourself so you're 100% sure.
@@syd_jzx100 how is the stereo system any tweeters etc ?
@@ph-ju1fo Honestly man, not the best. Only real thing I'm disappointed about.
It's a nice car but I only wished they didn't cheap out on the interior and creature comforts. A sister car of it, the Cerato GT hatchback gets leather and heated/cooled seats and is a far more liveable car. I just wished they had a more powerful powertrain. THere is only so much you can tune a 1.6litre engine. I'm already putting custom brembo 4 pot brakes on them, coilovers, engine support mods to take it to 300-350hp. It just doesn't have the cool gadgets like adjustable dampers (I have to physically turn a knob for the soft/stiff setting) and LSD which would be a costly mod.
For.. N mode.. selecting N mode 😳 on the home interface.. to get the N settings.. makes sense to me 🤔
Marvellous, and a Hyundai supplied press car too, I imagine! Very pleased you have managed to review one of these.
Your comments on the exhaust sounds are 100% correct in my opinion.
Another good review, of a car that has recently appeared on my radar. Really love the pops and bangs. I’m childish I know, but it’s the little things in life.😉
Robert Rishel I tried it today for the first time. In 2nd gear, get the engine over 5k revs and then lift off the accelerator for some lovely pops
Subscribed. I like your reviews mate and the mix of cars reviewed. Cheers👍
Great review, i really like your style of making video’s. But tell some more about your Saab😊
Clearly you prefer hot patches!
Very good
Best comment I've read for ages.
LOL :D
Pressing the N button without varying any specific settings is primarily for track use. Which the factory warranty covers conditionally.
Great video, looking forward to the comparison with the Type R.
For custom settings the ‘N’ button would have been my first choice.
Had mine 4 days. Amazing car! That rev matching!
Would love to drive this car. I see one driving around where I live. Looks great. I do remember hearing that the head of Hyundai N division used to be the head of BMW M. Which is probably why it drives so well. I have yet to drive and review one myself but one day I will. I do like the Hyundai/Kia cars.
You nailed it, N is M plus one. Turned up to eleven, as they would have you believe!! Looking at these at the moment, so this is great 👍 Also bang on about the pops and bangs 👍 Pun intended 😎
Good, honest and informative vid. You come across as a trustworthy journo (i.e. one whose opinion isn't bought and paid for). Thanks for the info.
Thanks
Thats so weird.. I literally searched whether you'd done an i30N review last night and the very next day you upload one
Honestly cannot wait to pick mine up hopefully next week!
Jay. How old was the i30N you drove. I drove one at Millbrook at the N day in 2018 and shortly after Hyundai admitted they were working on revised suspension settings to soften things up a bit as it was agreed it was too stiff and fidgety. Longer bump stops were also mentioned at the time. This has already been incorporated in the i30N fastback. Just wondering if your car had the new settings too.
Do you review and do not know what N means? Namyang - Nurburgring! Namyang is Hyundai R&D Centre in Korea and Νurburgring where the i30 N was further developed and tested.
I still like ("M"+1). Maybe I'm just a bit sad!
It was driven there after it was made. Wasn't developed there at all.
@@aaronlean1350 yes it was
Of course it helps that the head honcho responsible for developing a lot of the M cars moved to Hyundai...
Nice review Jay you've made me feel good about owning one. My biggest gripe though is the MPG it is very poor but insurance premiums are silly low . Swings and roundabouts come to mind .
Yes, I agree. Insurance is v.cheap on this but MPG is mid 20’s for me (the commute my wife does kills the mileage I’m afraid) so it’s not necessarily the cars fault! 35-38mpg can be achieved on motorway runs easily enough. It’s a beast of a car and makes me smile every time I know I’m going to drive it. Anyway, nice review. I use N Custom with the Suspension on the softest setting and the steering Normal . Everything else maxed out and it seems to offer the best mix.
@@crocoman776 I also have N custom with normal suspension or I'd be visiting the dentist more often than I'd like.
@@follyfour506 How does the car do in Eco mode? I only work about 1 - 2 miles from home but in the winter I'm driving in every day so just curious how it would handle it. How often do you fill her up?
@@dgzxx15x48 Hey did you ever hear back?
@@jenniferleary5713 No I didn’t really pursue the i30N much, I love it and was definitely considering it, but I went for an older Golf GTI for now, maybe in a few more years 😫😂
good vid again buddy! iv drove the new civic r and must say did shock me just how good it really was! but this is cool car that if only it had a little more power!
More power wouldn't improve it to be honest
The N comes from the name of the Hyundai R&D in Korea.
Which is called 'Namyang' each car is designed around a different track.
The i30N is designed around track #3 at Namyang.
Good review but Sport+ suspension is absolutely brilliant for fun driving...do not listen to that nonsense 😂 IF you actually push the car hard enough, you can chuck it around most country road bends at 60mph no issue...KEEP IT IN NORMAL SUSPENSION AND YOU'LL BE IN A BUSH. Same with the steering. If you have it in Normal mode, every crack and dip in the road will throw you off. Keep it in Sport + and it doesn't react and keeps the car aligned. (Sorry but it really annoyed me that he said it ruins the car if you use N mode)
would be interesting to see a review on the RCZ R, yes its not a new car, but i would like your take on it
I actually have one of these and you just set the car in n custom and put the suspension in the softest setting and lighten the steering and it's amazing fun. Plus I have only seen 1 other one on the road near me and it feels more exclusive admittedly the stereo is not great but I've found I just like hearing the car anyway. And 26mpg is good I barely get 20mpg but if your worried about economy buy a boring hatch not one of these
I own the i30N. Reviewer pretty much nails how the car feels. By the way, you can turn of the pops and bangs ang keep the Sport+ exhaust sound, by setting Engine Response to SPORT.
Glad I got it right
Top of my list in a few months when it's time to return the Polo GTi...which with no 3dr version anymore, has lost me... sitting in one of the i30N's, I was extremely impressed!
Shite!!! you own a polo GTI! QUICK, GET RID OF IT BEFORE IT BECOMES A MONEY PIT!!!
@@shanemitchell5807 It was fine, not a single issue in the 3 years of ownership. I had the 1.8 version though, the 1.4 supercharged one yeah...that had issues.
@@chriswilcox8977 Any new(2009 to current model) VAG product is utter trash! The older products were somewhat OK.
@@shanemitchell5807 I felt my Polo Blue GT was a superb car in 2014. Fab economy and 60 in a shade longer than the GTi. The GTi was good personally, but not much better to drive than the Blue GT. In ways the GT was nicer overall.
Great review.
How would you say it compares to the mk7 fiesta st? I like the fiesta but hate how hard the ride is.
I've considered trading it in for an i30n in the future as i like the idea of the adjustable suspension but I'm not sure as a package the hyundai would still be a downgrade over the fiesta st
It's great to hear someone else who agrees that ultra stiff suspension isn't the best for everyday roads. Something that flows with the road, rather than try and beat it in to submission with nothing more than sheer stubbornness. 😁
It is just incredible how amazing they did at their first attempt! The golf needed 30 years to get this good and they just nailed it
It helps when you poach top engineers from Europe...
Plagiarism is great isn’t it. Buy a Golf GTI and pull it to bits . Take everything it does and turn it up a bit. Price it lower. Hey presto. It’s Korea.
@@Buck3366 lol i dont think they stole anything really important from vw. or at least nobody knows
You have to be joking right?
자신의 게임에서 골프 GTI를 이길. That was The note left on Albert Beirmanns desk from day one. I know I sound like a fanboy and I’m not I find the Golf ok. Just ok. But it is the most well known hot hatch ever made and Korea went all nukes a blazing to try and,for want of a better phrase,piss on it’s cornflakes.They did a good job and I’m even getting over the badge issue and considering one as my next daily.
Really enjoyed that one. As a massive Honda fan and S2000 driver for the last 15 years or so, I’d love a type r.... if it weren’t for the fussy, plastic cobblers going on. This appeals somehow as a left-field alternative especially as I’ve seen used ones at the £20k’ish mark. Alongside the S2000 of course! In reality I’m more likely to get an ep3 or fn2 civic cos I like my motoring depreciation free. Yes I’m tight! Look forward to the next episode....
Agreed the Hyundai is a much cleaner looking car
Pick up mine with luxury pack and sunroof in micron grey, blue led footwell lighting, performance blue is nice but not sure how long, great cars
What a refreshingly honest car review, loved it bud!!!!..... you got a new subscriber :) Cheers, Don (Dons Shed and Xplor Overland)
The colour is called N Storm and the N stands for Nurburgring as that is where it was developed and they built a HQ there
Albert Biermann lead the designed of this car, he headed BMW M division for many years before leaving to work for Kia Hyundai. Hence N - see what Biermann did there? I think Hyundai have a great future with him in charge, looking forward to more N cars..
"I don't know what 'N' stands for"... really, WTF! You didn't do much research before making this video... did you?
In is defence... he as said various times that in order to not be influenced by "the general media" opinion or the "paid rewiews" fake ideas... He chooses to read as little articles as possible about a car before driving it.
I do understand your point of view ... but this just proves once again that i didin't read the "Nurburgring and Namyang press release package"
@James Smith That's a lot of dots after my name, mate... three is enough!
@@BradGrove Kinda have to agree with Brad here. Please stop abusing the ellipsis.
You consider it a bad thing, but personally I find the 'judge it on it's merits, not it's press releases' approach to be quite good. Knowing what it's name means isn't as important as how it drives. Honestly..................................................
The i30n has been developed in ...Nurburgring and the ex enginer for the M models ( A.Bierman ) at BMW is now in Hyundai and make the ....N models
im from the united states and i own a 2021 hyundai veloster n and id love to know your opinion on it especially compared to this i30n and the stinger. Do you have the veloster n in britain?
ALSO SOMETHING INTERESTING: For my veloster n, the pops and bangs are very subtle and usually when shifting at high rpm, EXCEPT when you turn the air conditioning off., when you turn the ac off... it pops bangs and gurgles everytime you let off the gas from 2000rpm onward. i wonder if the i30n is the same since its mostly the same car
Very impressive car. Well it give the type r a run for its money?
Is this car have the GPF (partikel filter?)thanx
Are thess things reliable? Fancy jumping out of my M240i for one
Is this i30N with or without OPF filter?please??need to know for the beautiful pops and bangs..thanx
if you get a 19 plus plate, it has a GPF, but trust me the pops and bangs are no less with it
super job,gg, well done hyudai uk, just phoned dealer for a qoute
You're wearing my grandma's quilt. I like it, not sure why, but I like it. Where do you get your shirts?
Came across your channel searching for the I30N. Really appreciate the work you put into your video, and presentation. But I found your comments quite frustrating at times. If your buying an I30N, your not going in blind. You would pretty much know what it does out of the tin. Anyone moaning about the suspension being to stiff, needs to not buy a hot hatch, although I agree that the most aggressive settings can be too much for some uk roads, and are for use on a track which the Hyundai warranty covers. What really got me and as I see in so many videos, is when the cars being tickled and people talk about being on it. Don’t get me wrong, borrowed car, public road, but if your talking about being on it get your foot in man. What would be more interesting is to find out how much the LSD negates wheelspin with out TC on as it’s the first thing I would turn off.
If I gave this car what it could do on camera, I would be in a lot of trouble
Great review James, great product knowledge. And you are right hot hatches are the most fun and versatile for fast fun uk road driving enjoyment. I think I would still prefer the excellent Civic type R over this Hyundai. Although the i30N looks really fun to drive.
Everyone would prefer the Type R, but many of us can hardly think of affording the i30N... go figure the Type R, with emission taxes striking it in many countries, tyre replacement cost substantially higher (it wears 20" wheels) and so on.
Favourite review as i have this car :)
Jay, you weren't Mr Tumble in a previous life were you??😲
😂
Shhhhhh
The pops are pretty much a factory anti-lag system to keep the turbo spooling between gears from what I've heard.
The 1.4 Turbo Kia ceed has the same tech, yet the ceed gt doesn't 🤔
you are just another normal british i guess, totally not a car guy. but you got what the general public feels when using that car, so good job, mate.
I’m having a problem hearing you over that Shirt!!! 🥴🥴
Jay, How about getting a Stage 3 i30N to review??
In my opinion, your most professional presentation yet. Top line motoring journoes will have to up their game to keep you in check.
Great review. You are what I would call a thinking man's car buff. Don't see enough of them.
Top notch shirt! I like the look of the N cars compared to the rest of the ugly hatchback class, but of course I’d prefer RWD and a V6. Imagine a manual stinger drivetrain in a C segment hatch or the Veloster, now we’re talking!
Sounds like those old BMW 1 Series hatchbacks, with extra turbos.
zoe sympathiser I am a sucker for an N52 1 Series, although I much prefer the cabrio and coupe to the hatches
Worzle Gummidge wants his shirt back 😉
Your giving our age group away lol shhh
I thought it was Stevie Wonder's.
Big lolz for Worzle.
Just missing the hat.
1. No you can not only choose the paint, there are 2 basic packages to choose from and you can choose to have a panoramic roof or the strut brace in the trunk. The 2 packages are a navigation pack (bigger screen and so on) and a comfort pack (leather seats, alcantara elements).
2. N stands for Namyang and Nürburgring.
3. There is a "premium sound option" just not in the configurator but in the accessories section. If you order this car you can tell the dealer to install the pack, which costs 400€.
4. The "N-setting" is a setup for a track, not for bumpy, broken roads, that's why there's Custom. Eventho I have to disagree you can very well drive in N-mode if your road is intact.
It's England, our roads are not intact!
I like these cars, hidden gem at the moment
Great review. I’m sure it’s a great car but it just doesn’t do it for me. I’d buy a m140i instead as I want a 6 Cylinder and 350bhp. If I was going for a fwd I’d get the civic type r as I love the over the top styling.
The N is for Nürnburgring because it was developed there
Love your reviews on cars, but Christ do you get your shirts from the same place as James may and Noel Edmonds
I wish that shirt came as an extra when we ordered an i30N. Lol.
Well the normal i30N has cloth seats, that would be reason enaugh for me to get the normal version over the performance version.
Likewise, leather seats are terrible and symbolic of how people just agree with consensus rather than objectively assessing things themselves. They are too hot, too cold, too sticky, too damage prone, and are literally stitched together rotting corpses, mmm luxurious!
Exactly Christopher! I couldnt find better words to explain my point! Although this is a point that shouldnt need any explanation really... yet so many people ignore both the actual objective quality of leather compared to other so much better option and the fact that its skin of innocent slaughtered animals.
I really enjoy your videos Jay, just get better and better.
Display screen from halfords ?
I would go with the performance model however I would much rather have 18" wheels with normal PS4 tyres. 19" wheels with rubber bands are crap unless you are on a track.
your clothing style is even weirder than Doug Demuro's, I like it
Test drive the dct today and absolutely love it, however they wanted the price of the type R! This is no match to a type R which I drove to the dealership 😂.
Nice review. Why wouldn’t one look in the manual for how to use the settings and once learned not forgotten? 👍🏻
back from part 2 .....the looks have been done by civic from the start a ek9 looks like a ek3 but it cant do ek9 things without doing a swap .
A good review, my son has the same model.
However the way you express yourself and your presentation of this car reminds me of 1990s top gear presenter Chris Goffey 😁
i30 N , N come from place where it was designed in Namyang and honed at Nurburgring.
5:02
I've driven N1 HYU ;p
1. N stands for Nürburgring
2. N-mode is for Nürnurgring or track-driving. If you put it into N-mode on your British roads it's your own fault. I think it's quite nice to have it in a "performance" version hot hatch and there is no need to select it on normal roads.
Not sure about the "N stands for Nürburgring" reference. I have read previously the N stands for Namyang, home to Hyundai Motor’s global R&D Centre.
And maybe ;) .... "N" stands for Nošovice too - Small village in Czech Republic near Hyundai factory - birthplace of this amazing fast devil!
Prob my first point is false. Indeed, Namyang sounds familiar to me, too.
This reminds me of the Yaris GRMN which means "Gazoo Racing Masters of Nürburgring" and yet it reads "German".
The context on one of your points is essential. It'd silly to use N mode on a bumpy back road. If you're on a race track though, go for your life.
I think the regular car would be better for younger people, as lower insurance, at least it is for me, however I’m going to get one in a few months
Great video! Since these have came out I've had a massive soft spot for them! Trouble is id rather an FK8!
Nice to see the after break up of Teletubbies Dipsy still on the "box" bless.
Do a mile drag race between old i10 and i30n
So... It's a worthy contender to replace my 230 bhp vRS Octavia then?
tricky dicky Octavia is family car lol
pops and bangs Well, thanks for pointing out the obvious, but that doesn’t answer the question.....
@@dickiemcvitie1752😂 fuck you’re Skoda
Great video
But Joesph wants his shirt back
Who's Joseph?
The Yellow Cursor you idiot
4:52 N is for Nurburgring where it was tested and also Namyang where the car was R&D.
12:04 The pops and bangs are actually there for a reason on this car; I believe it's part of the Anti lag system on the turbo. Engineering explained explains it a lot better than I would.
Its not really an anti lag system, its just a little over fuelling that you can turn onn or off, anti lag just sounds like a nice name to call it, and a proper system would destroy a turbo in less than 1000 miles due to the heat. Its like the diff, an electronically controlled mechanical diff, well yes and no, its not mechanical in the way a proper mechanical diff is (torsen etc) but its not a full electric one either. Its terminologies they like to use in marketing.
@@tonyb1223 just check the video engineering explained did.
@@e1337prodigy ive seen it, its not anti lag
It acts like anti lag.
@@e1337prodigy not even that, it may sound like anti lag, probably as close as it gets lol, it really does nothing to enhance the performance of the car, just some added noise mapped in :)
Pops and bangs on this car is for removing turbo lag.
A more affordable Honda Civic Type R, and a more exciting/reliable GTi and Focus ST.
Sleepy question is, is it better than the 2019 Corolla Hatchback?
Disagree. I test drove one of these from three different dealerships and really enjoyed each experience and thought it we be my next car. No. Ended up buying a DSG Golf GTI Performance. Slightly better level of luxury feel but nowhere near as exciting. I think I only bought the Golf because of depreciation worries in the back of my head. This is a new car from Hyundai and depreciation is an unknown at present. My ocal dealer said I could have their 1200mile demonstrator for £26000.
@@HyperBiker What is the initial price difference?
@@themarenda.
The new UK price difference is only a few thousand GBP but it depends on how far you spec up the GTi, of course.
@@HyperBiker i meant similar options, i have a bimmer and they are real assholes regarding equipment almost nothing except sat nav is included, i was wondering about tech package mostly like keyless entry and camera but nevermind
N is for Nurburgring where much of the testing took place.
I agree about the pops and bangs being overdone. This is the best coverage of the car I've so far seen. It also has the benefit of not being an embarrassment to be seem in, unlike the Civic unfortunately.
Best looking current hot hatch
"Maximum road feel." Yes it does! If the road is perfect than you can feel that and if the road is crap you can feel that too :P...But most of the roads are not prefect so we don´t want maximum road fell in "normal" cars. Just those for the track....I am gonna buy a new car very soon and it´s between Leon Cupra ST (300Hp, 7speed DSG, digital cocpit, 4WD, 5s 0-100km/h) and i30 Fastback N. Still can´t decide...Automatic vs manual, most fun to drive? The looks...and so on...Anyone else in same situation?
I want the veloster n to be available in england.
The only thing that concerns me with the i30N is the MPG other than that the rest of the car is perfect
It is very poor but it is a heavy car .
Id be really interested to compare it the 130i, at the limit and not tootling in traffic. Very different in price and age, but on paper the performance is near identical to the I30N performance.
I30n would destroy it
Raw numbers look near identical (130s actually slighter faster to 100) is it rolling in gear acceleration where it's faster? (thankyou turbo)
Handling, the 130 falls apart when pushing on, i30N just grips and goes
@@JayEmmOnCars This is true OOTB, you need to do the well documented handling/suspension upgrades +LSD to make it be what it should be and then it's a different story however
N is for Nurburgring where the car was developed and the location of Hyundai’s technical center!
Half right, N is for Namyang Hyundais r&d centre not the nurburgring.
Why not buy the performance pack version? I can think of around 3500 reasons. That's a fair chunk of money to find over and above the cost of the standard version, no matter how much perceived 'value for money' you're getting.