I'm doing a programming project, and I'm assuming the second strategy would be the easier of the two to program an AI for. I still haven't played the game yet, so maybe that's why I'm hesitant
Downloaded some "mastermind" app on my phone in the small hours, didn't know what it was. Didn't do too well on my own, so I found this video. The first strat in this video helped me beat 4x4x8 immediately (if the "difficulty" in the video is 8x4x10) and 8x4x10 just as quickly. Turned the difficulty up to extreme (10x8x12) and was left clueless once more. Gave the video another watch and thanks to your second strategy I was able to beat it within an hour. Don't know if you've tried it with 10 colours, 8 columns and 12 rows, but now you know your strategy is scalable (if you didn't already). :) You're a good teacher.
I prefer to place all eight colours in the first two rows. The number of pegs will tell you if you have duplicates or triples or quads. Then you can refine with subsequent guesses and have something useful to refer back to.
I have just started playing with duplicates, with some success.... depending on how you define success. Mine does not have a limit number of tries, and each stage alternates 4/5/6 colors. Focusing only on 4-color puzzles, I used to try 2 colors on the first try (like you did) but then switch to two new colors on the second try regardless of the feedback. I made some attempts on your method and I slightly improved the number of tries.
Great vid! To solve it faster, once you're positive about one, use that location to eliminate other colors until you're ready to solve. Wasted space if you keep placing a red peg. Thanks
@@fabiangilbrecht6871 In the video, due to the compression, it looks 100% blue. But in the game, www.webgamesonline.com/mastermind/ , it's actually purple....
Someone's video showed to use red as the control color for two spaces every time, and then two of every other color. So it would be red, red, green, green; red, red, blue, blue, etc. It works every time. The problem is, the game isn't any fun any more. It is a weird game - it is no fun to fly blind having no strategy, but the strategy takes all the suspense out of it. Guess we'll have to try the Super version.
Good video but there is one error with the first tactic at 0:38; It will never take you 8 rows on 8 colors to single out the colors of the code. After 7th row you have 100% knowledge of all colors of the code, since if only 3 rows have produced a match by the 7th row, the 8th color (with the 8th row) does *NOT* need to be tested for positive. We know its there.
5:17 why put another green in there when you can clearly see from the line before no green is in the line. Surely thats a waste of a space? Could've used that for another colour that had no yet been tested?
SphereOfHarry Yeah, but if another color was on there he wouldn't know if it was orange or that other color that triggered it. By using green, he knows it is the orange.
I consistently solve 8 color Mastermind in exactly 4 moves. I suspect the 5 move proofs are incorrect but wouldn't have any idea on how to prove this mathematically. Any takers?
Right they usually are allowed. You can use this strategy, or the other with duplicates. I should make an updated video... ruclips.net/video/BTVt1OKp7v0/видео.html
Literally just played this with my son for two straight hours searched this and he can’t even explain it because it’s that freaking complicated and luck is most of it playing with somebody you find yourself giving away with unintended hints
this guy actually isn't explaining the core tricks at all. check out some other videos that can explain what different patterns mean instead, it's much more helpful than just strategies
I usually play with duplicates allowed. 1st line I try 4 different colors. 2nd line I try the other 4 colors. This tells me in 2 lines if there are any duplicates and how many colors are duplicated.
I play with 6 pegs × 10 colors × 15 tries w/ repeats My method is simular to your second method. 🔴🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵 Starting with two colors, but one on the left, and 5 in the others. I cycle through the 10 colors this way. (Yeah I might be able to improve this.) Then the next move is all about getting to confirm the 6 colors. If I don't get 6 pegs total on the feedback, I will examine the lines with white pegs. But at the same time I will attempt to extract the color of peg #1. This roughly takes 1-3 moves. Then once peg #1 is found and all 5 other colors, it's just plunking them down and arranging them to win. Only in the worse case scenario do I lose in a puzzle this size, and only one move from victory. Which is why I play with 15 moves instead of 16. (Which would be boring since I can garrentee success at that length.) I average solution at 11, with my best at 7, with luck.)
Can't believe people do this for fun lol. Just not my thing but these types of puzzles are in a boardgame I'm attempting to play but can't unless I pass these in 4 moves.
This guy is totally 100% wrong!! His method is smart, but still relies on luck (as he says in the video. If you start with rows of one color and then keep one of that color for ever peg you will GUARANTEED WIN! It really is the best strategy.
Doing it that way can take up to 5 rows just to learn all the colors, then you need to figure out where the colors go. I've seen lots of people lose using the method you recommend. However, if the codemaker can repeat peg colors, and uses 3 or 4 of one color, the method you recommend works better than the one I showed in this video. Otherwise, this method can save some time getting to the solution. Thanks for watching! :)
You didn't have the option for duplicates selected. The code would never have more than one of each.
It would work nonetheless
@@TheFlyboy512 It would work but it's not the most efficient strategy.
I'm doing a programming project, and I'm assuming the second strategy would be the easier of the two to program an AI for. I still haven't played the game yet, so maybe that's why I'm hesitant
Downloaded some "mastermind" app on my phone in the small hours, didn't know what it was. Didn't do too well on my own, so I found this video. The first strat in this video helped me beat 4x4x8 immediately (if the "difficulty" in the video is 8x4x10) and 8x4x10 just as quickly. Turned the difficulty up to extreme (10x8x12) and was left clueless once more. Gave the video another watch and thanks to your second strategy I was able to beat it within an hour. Don't know if you've tried it with 10 colours, 8 columns and 12 rows, but now you know your strategy is scalable (if you didn't already). :) You're a good teacher.
Well, it doesn't work reliably. With some tweaks and a dab of improvisation I seem to enjoy a 60% success rate at the moment.
That's great! Good job!
I prefer to place all eight colours in the first two rows. The number of pegs will tell you if you have duplicates or triples or quads. Then you can refine with subsequent guesses and have something useful to refer back to.
That is another strategy! Good!
I have just started playing with duplicates, with some success.... depending on how you define success. Mine does not have a limit number of tries, and each stage alternates 4/5/6 colors. Focusing only on 4-color puzzles, I used to try 2 colors on the first try (like you did) but then switch to two new colors on the second try regardless of the feedback. I made some attempts on your method and I slightly improved the number of tries.
That's great! Keep playing and you'll find ways to make it quicker. Practice makes you see patterns on this.
Wait a minute... you are discussing strategies as if duplicates were possible, and yet, the "allow duplicates" box is unchecked. What is going on?
Yes, I didn't realize I had that box unchecked so I was playing as if duplicates were allowed.
Lol I came to the comments for this reason. XD
Great vid! To solve it faster, once you're positive about one, use that location to eliminate other colors until you're ready to solve. Wasted space if you keep placing a red peg. Thanks
That's a good idea!
Smart!
Dude…very slick.
Purple? It is blue
It is purple yes4me
@@fabiangilbrecht6871 It's Blue
I was right that was Blue. yes4me
@@fabiangilbrecht6871 In the video, due to the compression, it looks 100% blue. But in the game, www.webgamesonline.com/mastermind/ , it's actually purple....
it's black and gold
Someone's video showed to use red as the control color for two spaces every time, and then two of every other color. So it would be red, red, green, green; red, red, blue, blue, etc. It works every time. The problem is, the game isn't any fun any more.
It is a weird game - it is no fun to fly blind having no strategy, but the strategy takes all the suspense out of it. Guess we'll have to try the Super version.
That version would work pretty well, unless there is three of one color. Then it might just be confusing.
Here due to a Runescape puzzle. This helped a ton, ty. Cheers!
I hope bad karma hits whoever decided putting this puzzle on Runescape was a good idea
Good video but there is one error with the first tactic at 0:38; It will never take you 8 rows on 8 colors to single out the colors of the code. After 7th row you have 100% knowledge of all colors of the code, since if only 3 rows have produced a match by the 7th row, the 8th color (with the 8th row) does *NOT* need to be tested for positive. We know its there.
Great point! Thanks for sharing!
5:17 why put another green in there when you can clearly see from the line before no green is in the line. Surely thats a waste of a space? Could've used that for another colour that had no yet been tested?
SphereOfHarry Yeah, but if another color was on there he wouldn't know if it was orange or that other color that triggered it. By using green, he knows it is the orange.
Does anyone know the name of the young man from Nottingham UK who was a champion at this but died in a traffic accident around 1981?
Thank you. I really dont know how to play the game but your strategy makes it easy to play this game.. Thank you very much.
Glad to hear that!
I consistently solve 8 color Mastermind in exactly 4 moves. I suspect the 5 move proofs are incorrect but wouldn't have any idea on how to prove this mathematically.
Any takers?
can you advise how strategy for when duplicates are allowed? (I think they are allowed under normal rules.)
Right they usually are allowed. You can use this strategy, or the other with duplicates. I should make an updated video... ruclips.net/video/BTVt1OKp7v0/видео.html
Literally just played this with my son for two straight hours searched this and he can’t even explain it because it’s that freaking complicated and luck is most of it playing with somebody you find yourself giving away with unintended hints
this guy actually isn't explaining the core tricks at all. check out some other videos that can explain what different patterns mean instead, it's much more helpful than just strategies
I usually play with duplicates allowed. 1st line I try 4 different colors. 2nd line I try the other 4 colors. This tells me in 2 lines if there are any duplicates and how many colors are duplicated.
I like that method too. Thanks for sharing.
This was my original start but I thought there was a better way
I play with
6 pegs × 10 colors × 15 tries
w/ repeats
My method is simular to your second method.
🔴🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵
Starting with two colors, but one on the left, and 5 in the others. I cycle through the 10 colors this way. (Yeah I might be able to improve this.)
Then the next move is all about getting to confirm the 6 colors. If I don't get 6 pegs total on the feedback, I will examine the lines with white pegs. But at the same time I will attempt to extract the color of peg #1.
This roughly takes 1-3 moves.
Then once peg #1 is found and all 5 other colors, it's just plunking them down and arranging them to win.
Only in the worse case scenario do I lose in a puzzle this size, and only one move from victory. Which is why I play with 15 moves instead of 16. (Which would be boring since I can garrentee success at that length.) I average solution at 11, with my best at 7, with luck.)
That's great! I love the technique!
I make 4 completely random guesses and then solve it in one go off of that information.
Fantastic!
Prolly should have pressed allow duplicates
Can't believe people do this for fun lol. Just not my thing but these types of puzzles are in a boardgame I'm attempting to play but can't unless I pass these in 4 moves.
Dude. Was expecting the board game Mastermind. Helpful anyway .
But... it is Mastermind. Just a video game recreation
Huh?
This guy is totally 100% wrong!! His method is smart, but still relies on luck (as he says in the video. If you start with rows of one color and then keep one of that color for ever peg you will GUARANTEED WIN! It really is the best strategy.
Doing it that way can take up to 5 rows just to learn all the colors, then you need to figure out where the colors go. I've seen lots of people lose using the method you recommend. However, if the codemaker can repeat peg colors, and uses 3 or 4 of one color, the method you recommend works better than the one I showed in this video. Otherwise, this method can save some time getting to the solution. Thanks for watching! :)
Why are you calling blue, "purple"?
Because my son is color blind
5:30 u already know there's only 1 red since the game options doesn't allow duplicates :)
Yeah, I didn't realize that till later. lol
Shout out to the people here for freminik exiles
bro you color blind? It's clearly blue not purple
I can't take advice on logic from a guy who can't tell blue from purple
What if I'm a color blind genius?
Sorry your tactics seem under welcoming. They don’t appear to adjust that much for each scenario
I think the second strategy is the best.
Thanks! I like that one too!
I play the bord game and I always get it right on the 4th try
That's amazing! Good job!
This was very helpful
Fantastic! Glad it helped!
I'd like to play this game in multiplayer mode to challenge other people.
thanks
Great video thanks man
Greate vid! One of my favourite games :)
realy works
this makes no sense
Really
verybad
Thanks?
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I bet u don't remember commenting this...
@@eliotlong5184 Hahah. no i dont
You are color blind
I might be.