Ep 32: How Much Food is Imported and Can Local Farms Feed Our Small Town
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2024
- This week Al, Ben and Jason talk about their week and give statistics on how much food people consume in a year. Also, can our own town be fed from small farms only? Ben talks about smoking with real wood and thoughts on Jason's cured ham. Al, talks barn doors and getting a smoker.
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Homestead Shop Talk is a weekly audio podcast hosted by Jason Contreras (@sowtheland), Ben Hollar (@thehollarhomestead) and Al Lumnah (@lumnahacres). Three dudes with different homesteads talking about homestead life, content creation, growing a homestead and building a life worth living for. Thanks for listening! #homesteadshoptalkpodcast
We find it pretty amazing that we watch each of the three of you individually and now we’re hooked on your podcast. Keep it up guys. I wish you could get your wives to do one of these
Good idea! I would love one week for their wives to take over!
I'm the same way! Watch all 3 as well. I would love to see the wives so this on occasion as well. I know they are busy farm mommas, but they have a ton they can educate us on as well.
Love your shows!! Thank you each for all you do, share, and teach!!
When I was a child growing up in the 50’s and 60’s in Ks. We had small corner grocery stores about every 6 blocks. They all had their own butchers and most of the Veggies and fruit were seasonal from local gardeners and farmers. They slowly closed up shop late 60’s and 70’s. Also gone with them was penny candy.
...and the gasoline was 49 cents a gallon....and the attendant pumped it for you and washed your windshield....
I watch every episode, wouldn't miss it ever.
I need my dose of knowledge every week. Keep these coming.
Always very interesting.
God bless you and your families. ❤❤❤
The three of you are very interestingly matched in a lot of ways. Exchanging ideas and compliments on projects done exhibits great character. I have to admit before this podcast series I wasn’t aware of Sow the Land and Holler Homestead but now I watch all three of you religiously. Keep up the videos I’m hooked. 👍👍👍
friday night, glass of wine, homestead shop talk , life is good
Fascinating discussion! Always is.
Good podcast. Thank you.
Smoked trout is what I grew up on. We could ALWAYS catch fish. Smoked trout is my favorite.
Smoked eel was mine! Difficult to find in the USA.
Very good 👍 I been watch this padcase love it 👍👍
If we get to SHTF times and the store shelves are empty you will not have an issue with customers for food of any type. Local areas will find a way to protect the growers and keep them producing. The problem is that some items will be hard to get and folks will have to learn to substitute or change menus. Ben's lard will be a major priority for a lot of purposes.
Lard for sure will be on everyone's must have list.
A real test would be to study up on depression era farming here in the states and compare regions. I know it can be done because one side of my family had a thousand acre farm at that time about an hour south of St. Louis. They also had fifteen kids to feed. About a hundred acres was tree and nut farm with walnut and hickory primarily and they harvested and used those nuts. They raised pigs near the barn and had chickens also three milk cows by the time I knew but likely more when all the kids were still home. They also raised a good herd of beef cattle. Most of the land across the creek was used for corn and hay. And any excess cream was made into butter to trade for salt, flour and baking soda. So they baked a lot of bread and biscuits. The folks I talked to down south did a lot with corn meal instead of flour because it was cheaper and readily available. You can pretty much tell the differences by cook books and what was regional cuisine. That was defined by what was local and available. New England is pretty famous for seafood it seems. Clam chowder but also corn chowder. Pretty sure a lot of fish stews and such. It would be interesting to collect up some stories from members of all these channels about their families in the depression era farming and do some videos on that.
Looking back, I don't know HOW my grandpa did it. He raised a family of 9 being a farmer. I know they were poor. But, they always had food. He later expanded into just cattle toward the end of his life. He died when I was 18. Out of all my family including my parents that have passed on, HE would be the one I would love to talk to just for ONE DAY. When he died he had 180 acres and had money in every bank in the county because he didn't trust ANY of them. On his deathbed he told my dad and uncles where to find some cash he buried. It was under the chicken coup. My dad said it was a good thing that my grandma didn't know where and how much all that money was. LOL She was so different than my grandpa. He is now my hero for how and what he did. He was born in 1908. My grandma on the other hand was mean and ornery. Never got how those two stayed together over 60 years. My dad RAN as fast as he could away from farm life and joined the Army. That's a whole other story!! I grew up in a totally different world. But, I loved going to my grandpas farm. Only three children are left from my grandparents. One lives on some of the acreage. All the rest was sold off at different points by my dad and his brothers and sisters. That brings tears to my eyes now. Oh how I wish I could have had just a few acres of that land. But, I was 18 and had no say. Honestly, at that age, I didn't care because I didn't understand then what I understand now.
The best piece of advice my grandpa every gave me was this. I had just turned 16 and got my first job at MickeyD's. I was so excited to tell him. He said, Honey, that's all well and good. Just don't eat there. They take the sickest, half dead cows at auction. I never forgot that. That was in 1983.
@@theIAMofME I really believe that was the key to their success. THEY OWNED THE LAND and usually they built every building on the place themselves without a mortgage. No debt and bank the profits by living below their means. And yes, divorce was not allowed so they stayed together no matter what. If it got too bad they would send the wife away to the nut house for shock treatments. Doctors would go along an help.
This is a very good topic.
Fifty years ago we had roadside stands in my area. Mostly tomatoes and sweet corn during season but also string beans, bell peppers, melons and eggs. Too many of the farmer's markets I have seen are selling the same produce as stores, buying wholesale and selling at farmer's market prices. At least the stands were on the land where stuff was grown. I do believe that if I was young, I could do that especially with some high tunnels and make a good living but not going to try at seventy. Not sure on regulations on a lot of products but good butter should be a great item to sell if you had extra milk. Raw milk is a gamble as illegal most places but often they look the other way if discrete. Most sources in our area are Amish and the authorities don't want the religious freedom issues so they rarely crack down.
No Ben, we love cooking times. Never repetitive. ❤❤❤
In 2022, I grew green beans, tomatoes and radishes, carrots, cucumbers, watermelons and Okra and 14 pineapple plants in the back yard and Elderberries along the back yard fence line. After I had canned 28 quarts and 32 pints of green beans me dear boy said that I probably was finished. and I asked him how many weeks are in a year. One jar of green beans each week did not seem to be enough. #PressOnRegardless Yesterday was our 60th wedding anniversary and this week had him pickup 12, 40 pound bags of compost soil and and 10 bags of top soil. When he complained I said ok, next time I will just order a dump truck load. Well that ended Mr. Honey's complaint. Yes, big smile boys.
Iwach you And. Never missed a video 👍💪the door is art
New Mexico is incentivizing people on snap benefits to go to the farmers markets by doubling their snap dollars at the farmers markets.
I have noticed going to our farmers markets in different areas of the state that some thrive and others not as much. Prices vary from market to market as well depending on area.
Referring to your comments on WWII and rationing/grow your own that sprang up here in England, apparently everyone says that they were never so healthy as during that period, eating their own produce and having it limited too. It's fascinating to talk to anyone from that era over here that are still left about the innovative ways they made do!*! ❤
Jason you might want to watch COG HILL FAMILY FARM. They recently had doors built locally (AL) that are about the size you will have on your barn. Might give you some ideas.
Yup.. those Cog Hill barn doors are Seriously large. They are sliders as I recall.
WWII Virginia in the mountains according to my Granny was beans & bacon and beans & beans with cornbread, potatoes, yams, onions, and wine-sap apples.
I love those series of life in Tudor, Victorian and the war farming shows. It was also great watching the colony and pioneer living series that were done in US.
Enjoyed another great podcast
We used to smoke our bacon with Apple Wood.
I was born at the end of WW2 but my husband is older and remembers some of the grow for victory schemes. One was every farm had to grow so many acres of potatoes. As farmers you know some land is suitable for potatoes and some is not, but 'they' knew best. There is no blanket rule. Hopefully lessons were learnt! Most farms I knew then had a mixture of animals. Old McDonald type farms. 💕💕🌻🌻
Fun always ❤from Ontario Canada
Carpenter bees hate almond oil and citrus oil.
Thanks guys. I really enjoyed the podcast.
Those Victortian, Edwardian and WWII series were brilliant - all the people taking part were historians on food/farming etc. The advantage is that in UK you can still find the infrastructure still in existance to do these kind of things.
Topic Idea: Have you ever had any old or traditional methods that work better than modern equipment/automation in certain situations? (i.e., food preservation, crop treatment, animal care, carpentry, etc.)
If you stay polyurethane on the wood it will keep the bees away. Do a few coats. The bees like bare wood not a coating on it.
Good to know. It took us a while to figure out up here in NH what they were. Grrrrr
This was a very interesting concept on growing food for a whole community. I don't think there are enough people who want to grow food even if there is the land....that is unless it became a life or death situation. I love famer's markets but I can't afford to shop there. $5.00 for 1 lg. tomato is out of the question. Thanks for sharing the statistics though. I also watched those BBC shows about the Victorian era and the Edwardian area. They were great shows. Until next time, y'all have a Blessed day.
Female carpenter bees DO sting. But rarely out of the hole where she has her eggs. Good talk guys!!
We're on the border of PA and NJ every spring we would play bee mitten 😂
Hi guys ☕️ happy Friday
Hello 👋
When we lived in south New Jersey we had carpenter bees. I made a trellis out of branches, and they took it down in one summer. We also had carpenter ants, which we had to put down ant bait pellets around the foundation of the house and the few trees in the yard. I fixed some loose tile in the shower, and found ants in the wood behind the tile!
I wish more people would cover this topic. Waiting for a crisis to happen is kinda late to start thinking about feeding your community.
Good show guys! 💖
We have carpenter bees here in northern Michigan! They are Huge and destructive.
I’ve lived in SE Lower Michigan for 80 years and never heard of carpenter bees before. You live and learn🤷🏽♀️😊👍🏽
AL your area I’m thinking of Maple Syrup 😊
Everyone has to eat to survive , it's a no brainer ! I have thought about renting garden space but don't want the xtra stress ! Just grow what they want, have a road side shop for now !!!!!
Hello gentlemen,
Hello there
I’m from Kern County too! My dad was a farmer there for 47 years. Potatoes, carrots, oranges, melons. Good stuff. Now I’m in Central Oregon and all that good food is old by the time it gets here and costs SO much more. 😢
Oh my, Coq au vin quail is the best!!! Try it Jason. You'll love it ❤❤❤
We are living on social security and I used to go to the farmers market. But with cost of groceries we can’t afford to buy there anymore.
Every person with a small patch of earth should start a garden this year. It’s going to be imperative in time. Container gardens. Trellis gardens. I think people would be surprised what they can supply in a small space. I ve always had a veggie garden. Lots of blueberry bushes, blackberry and raspberry. A handful of strawberry but I m expanding year by year and definitely eat seasonally during these months. I share with my mom and my neighbors too. I started growing pumpkins last year and I m hooked. Was able to freeze a lot for myself and my dogs. Have enlarged that area then amended with compost, manure, leaves, a thorough soaking and tarp. I did roll back the tarp for a good snowfall last month. When melted I recovered it. Planning out my beds as we speak and getting ready to order seeds I m low or out of. Also moving my strawberries to their own larger garden area so they spread out and produce more. I live in a tract house 1960’s style ranch house on a small plot of land. I know it’s more space than many people have but a patio would produce a lot with container gardens as long as good sun and lots of water. Also optimum soil, manure, compost etc in the containers.
Love the Victorian farm, edwardian farm, wartime farm, monestary farm series. Highly recommend! Got to visit the place where Edwardian farm was filmed, when I visited my sisters in-laws 8 years ago. I was totally fan-girling!😂
Thanks for this video!
I've been trying to get my tiny rural town (292)..to invest in community gardens for 3 years! No taker's! Our county has only a little over 3,700, people. We do have 1 farmers market, but it's mostly jams, jellies, some baked items...but I can tell that the ones selling fruit/vegetables get them from somewhere else.
Was part of a group setting up community gardens 50 years ago. We pursued it 3 years. HUGE disaster. 2/3 of the folks quit after the 1st month when they found out how much work was involved. Ended up bush-hogging most of the garden spots because of the weed jungle. Most folks do better and produce more in small backyard raised beds because they are handier than traveling to a community garden area, thus they can weed daily vs weekly or bi-weekly.
@alancummings5008 I had great luck with my first attempt at raised bed cucumbers. 🥒 on a trellis. Probably all this rain.. comming off a drought helped. A bit of work for sure.
We had to seal or paint any wood. That did keep them away.
Hay Jason. An idea for your barn door. Put in a 2 piece sliding and on one side cut in a 36 in. door that swings open for normal every day use. Hope this helps. Never miss an episode.
Afternoon guys. 👍👍👍👍
Quail is yummy! I grow quail in an aviary on deep litter. Quail eggs have so much more nutrition per volume than chicken eggs. They start laying at 6.5-8 weeks old and they are at butcher weight at 8 weeks old. No special equipment needed for processing and they are not covered in most city ordinances. They are an excellent source of meat and eggs, especially for small properties and urban properties.
Your doors turned out beautifully, Al!
Great your father in law was there to help hang them up.
It was a cool video.
I think in the near future people are going to be heading to local farmers a lot more
Lowe’s, Home Depot. Carpenters Bee Trap about $20. I give my Thumbs up 👍 🐝
Mmm quail wrapped in bacon-yes please. Quail is usually 2 per adult. I was thinking about rabbits the other day. If rabbits reproduce so fast, why isn’t it sold in stores? And if you can actually find it, it’s expensive. Have you ever had rabbit fricassee? Yum o la! Makes me want to start a rabbit farm. Very easy to skin too. Nice pelts. And great compost! Quail eggs are for pickling with Cajun spices and eaten as a snack or on salads. Mmm I can’t talk about food without getting hungry lol. ✌🏻
40:00 I think California grows like almost 70% of our produce at the grocery store. In the future...that may be a huge hole we have to fill. Great show!!!
Ben needs to give away bacon!? I volunteer! -Mike
🇦🇺in the 1970’s when interest rates were 18%, my parents had access to rabbit meat. A friend would trap rabbits on the back acreage for the airport, he would dress it for mum. It helped to stretch the food budget.
LOVE you all 3!!! Keep it up!!
Thanks so much!!
I am lucky to have an organic farmer literally a quarter of a mile from me, who rents my front field, which is about 3 acres. He also has 3 other larger fields that probably total 12 acres, +or-. So, on approximately 15 acres, he grows enough to supply the local food co-op in Montpelier, the co-op in Plainfield, VT, the farmer's markets in our town, and several other local towns, he sells to 2 of the largest restaurants in town, and has a small roadside store where he sells produce, eggs, local milk, local raw honey and cheese, and local grassfed meat. AND he sells to Whole Foods in Boston! It's absolutely amazing the amount of food that can be grown in good soil. We live in a flood plain, so we contend with that.
Just to answer Al, I've actually grown okra pretty consistently here in chilly old VT. Peppers used to be hard to grow, but the weather is changing, and so peppers are now happier up here, too. We DO have a short growing window here, but we're not too far south of the bottom of Alaska in terms of light in summer, so it's light at 5am and the light stays until 9:30, 9:40 at night around the equinox. I know some of you watch Simple Living Alaska, and you've seen the kind of veggies they grow up there!
Yes, frugality was necessary during the depression and the World Wars, food rationing was big, and housewives were taught how to garden if they didn't know, and how to use the odd cuts of meat and strange veggies that were rationed out. How to substitute one thing for another was also a big thing, as often families didn't have all the ingredients. I know that willow and poplar branches contain acetylsalicylic acid, which is what aspirin is made of. If you make tea out of the tender ends of willow or poplar branches, it is a pain reliever. Oregano is antiseptic, when made into a tea it will be effective in cleansing wounds. Just make sure the oregano itself has been washed, so is free of dust and dirt. Many, many cooking herbs are also medicinal herbs. Great and interesting podcast, you guys keep things very lively!
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Hello gentlemen, great podcast! Thanks for this, very interesting and informative! Take care!
Glad you enjoyed it!
For that dry ham maybe you can shred the meat into gravy and make S.O.S for toast.
Carpenter bee's are amazing pollinators, give them something else to do. When we planted BUTTERFLY BUSHES, it took a couple years to get big, but now the bees, wasps, butterflies, hummingbirds, are all busy on all those flowers
Love this podcast! Ben - I would love to see a video of Casey's operation. I know he's too busy to do RUclips any more but I've learned so much from his videos.
Check out Jason he has 2 videos of Casey’s farm on his Sow the Land channel
@@Homesteadshoptalk Will do! I must have missed those 2 videos.
Tori knows how much they sell she has spread sheets for everything:)
Al, what are you looking at up there? 😊❤❤❤
great projects this past week, guys.
❤ this podcast is so great as you all give each other great ideas and those who watch. So informative with you 3 bouncing off each other with constructive guides on "how too" curing, making gates, financials...love all each of your personal channels plus your get together podcast.
Hey Gang 👋🇨🇦 Allways nice to see the Three Musketeers 👍, God's Good Blessings to you and your beautiful family's keep up the great work love U guys XOXOXO stay safe and healthy
Calif. has always been called the food basket, lived there all my life, found the produce the best from anywhere else I have tried.
This small 1925 house only had a front door and a side door that was original when my mom bought it back in the early 70s she had the Carpenter that we used our family Carpenter turn the back wall into a back door and the back door has had a small porch with stairs and then when my mom got sick, we put a ramp and now we’re back to stairs and I had my Carpenter put a really cute deck in the back. It’s a small deck but it’s really cute but every time I think about that back door, it was never there. They opened it up and made it to a back door and the side door that used to exist. We’ve closed that up, so we have a front door and a back door..
We had ,So. New Jersey, had 4 days of sunlight in Jan.. Non so far this month.
Jason, Can you make the top outside corners angled with the same pitch as the roof then fill in the top corners of the opening at that same angle so that sliders will work?
Ben, a great job on the cow hide! Jason, loved the log cabin improvement. Al, those doors are beautiful. Al always shows great interest in the happenings on the homesteads and has good questions for Ben and Al. Ben, there is great interest in Megs doing in the house. Repetitive never comes to mind. California is known as the bread basket of the world. I can buy anything at any time! A great statement from Jason concerning eating seasonally. People would be amazed how much money they can save by also buying seasonally.
Jason, you could even try smoked vegetables. Like smoked carrots or potatoes.
Al smoked trout is the. BEST
Smoke some cheese too. Smoked paprika peppers. Go wild.100lb bacon Ben, the heart break of it all. LOL. JASON, I think your wood stove dried your ham out too much. I am guessing that the 15 % is wheat and beef and dairy from Canada. Fruit and veg from Mexico and a bit of winter fruit from South America. Bingo Jasen ...we must learn to eat seasonally. Great show.
Hi guys ..been so busy ..
At the beginning of the year you have so much stuff to do with the insurance the Medicare programs for my father-in-law. I did send in my taxes today just busy overall but I feel like I’ve been missing out on you. I don’t think I’ve been watching y’all the way I want to , we’re getting ready to have more rain this weekend it’s Friday and so I think we’re gonna get rain Saturday and Sunday and take a break for a little bit. We’ll get more and I think on the weekends we’re gonna be getting rain for a while I’ve been wanting to start seeds I haven’t been able to maybe tomorrow I’ll get to.🌱🌱🌱
Grain is a big import. I bet if it was a choice between growing your own as the only choice to eat you would adjust.
Maybe an answer would be like in Ithaca New York has a farmers market year round Just a few Acres makes his living like this... Check this out
Just imagiane the obesity rate going down if people didnt have all the processed food and had to relie on local whole foods.
Al, I was wondering if you are going to do maple syrup. I enjoyed that. Are you going to build a sugar shack next year?
This country is still the breadbasket of the world. Our farms, conventional or organic, are still more efficient than any where in the world. Much of the imported foods are specialty foods such as wine, cheese etc, with the exception of produce coming from Mexico and Central America.
113,158 population in my little town...... I think we'd need a pretty big pantry to feed everyone...😁
We live in Amish area and this draws many to our Farmers markets. We also have several Amish stores. Two are food, one is hardware and one is greenhouse supplies. I find the best values and quality.
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California is global food supplier.
COLLARD GREENS!!
Maybe we’ll be seeing goats on The Hollar Homestead soon! 🤔
Good ones guys
Goat meat is good! I don’t see any being sold in the stores though.
If the USA could model the way Southeast Asian countries feed the people from town to town and do waste anything there would be plenty of food to go around.
I think meat consumption also depends on the area you live in
Jason should just make a DrawBridge
Hi from Norway. I grow lot of Quail for som years ago. Quail eggs is Moore nutrients in what a hen egg is. Quail eggs can help people with allergy problems. I had a man how buy lot of eggs when he realized that this eggs was something he could eat. (He was normally allergy to other eggs. I had 300 Quail and collected their eggs and sold them to restaurants.
Interesting episode guys
It's Shou Sugi Ban ! No c or k in it !!!!! Lol 😂
raw milk dealer sounds kinda criminal lol hugsssss
Bananas, mangos and pineapples is the main part of the 15% I would think.
My cousin and his neighbor are both dairy farmers that sell to the same brand. During covid, 2 times they were not paid for the milk they had transported to the company. So he and his neighbor tried to buy the company out, and found out that they had already be bought by a Japanese company. 😢
Our city has roughly 80,000 people within its 13 sq miles of space. I really doubt we have enough free space to grow much food.Fortunatel Wal Mart is close LOL