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RUclips is such a bunch of weak babies. I think the reason they take videos down for barely a real reason is for them to be able to steal the monetary value of some videos so they can keep making more and more money for google..
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When I clicked on the video, but before watching it, I assumed the Loki name *was* just because it was throwing a wrench into the current understanding of dinosaurs. lol
I would love to see more episodes of Clint in conversation with experts in different fields, especially on paleontology. I am fond of dinosaurs, but I would also love to see more discussion of synapsid "mammal like reptiles" like Dimetrodon and Gorgonops.
@mathewritchie well he was forced to solve an issue he had put the gods in. Turning into a mare to distract the Jotuns working horse was part of that. There is a reoccurring pattern in mythology of Loki causing problems, and then proceed to go through some form of punishment or humiliation as a consequence of his actions. In this case, ending up r@p*3d by a horse in a mare form
I and many others are of the opinion that Lokiceratops is a species of Medusaceratops or synonymous with M. lokii. Cranial characteristics are how ceratopsids are diagnosed, and the strongly asymmetrical nature of the holotype specimen suggests the material may be nondiagnostic; we don’t have a reliable control. Furthermore, Lokiceratops occurs at the same level as Medusaceratops. Moreover, many specimens of Styracosaurus show an insane degree of individual variation with no clear trend, including asymmetrical specimens. It demonstrates that ceratopsids can show vastly different cranial characteristics and still represent the same taxon. One of the few convincing characters pertaining to Lokiceratops is that of the ischium, which is kinked about halfway down. This is unlike every other ceratopsid known and it’s very unusual for a postcranial element to be a distinct autapomorphy. Keep your eyes peeled for further analysis of the material
@The_Dinosaur_Heretic Just curious, what is your background in paleontology? You obviously know what you're talking about and its great to see contra-opinions that are well reasoned.
I have to remember to read between the lines when you say things... 👀 We literally just talked about doing Dinosaur related content outside Dinosaur December 12 hours ago! 😂
I would enjoy that as well, given that I've taken up fossil hunting recently and have been finding tons of gastropod fossils. I would like to know more about the little fellers I'm finding
With the limited number of fossils, is it also possible that these individuals had particularly asymmetry just like some cows have horn asymmetry even though most cow horns are fairly symmetric
His point was that the highest likelihood is that the most common specimen is also the most likely preserved. It’s possible you are correct. However, more specimen of this particular species would be required.
Oh my gosh, watching two incredibly intelligent and nerdy guys geek out about dinosaurs and talk really high level (at least by my standards) is officially one of my favorite things. This was a delight and I could watch another 10 of these.
Here's why I love this channel: two scientists discussing a clade of extinct dinosaurs, correcting each other on nomenclature, ie, subfamily vs. family. The words are important when trying to explain evolution. Most popular sources, and most content creators, are not as careful, and possibly don't know. I, for one, really appreciate the technical accuracy.
One counter-argument to the whole juvenile Velociraptor being a glider thing is that the Gobi desert in the Cretaceous largely resembled how it is today, there weren't tall trees to Glide from. The famous fighting dinosaur fossil was likely preserved because a sand dune fell on it, not exactly a forested area
Clint having an annotated and visually supported, nerdy and academic conversation with a specialist academic and field worker in a scientific field different from his own? I think I have a new favorite kind of Clint video! (Though phylogenies are so, so delightful!) Also, as a Latinist I am absolutely loving all of the scientific nomenclature!
Regarding the chance it is just deformed, properly analyzed, we need to use Bayes theorem and include both how rare it is that a species is asymmetric and the chance an individual is the result of unusual development, mutation etc I think if you do that it turns out a lot less improbable than suggested
Definitely a job for Bayes theorem rather than precise statistics, but the prior for being a newly discovered species is quite high. Dozens of new valid dinosaur taxa turn up every year.
@@johnscanlon8467 That's certainly true and I'm not even suggesting it is one of the existing species. But that's a different question than whether asymmetric horns are a standard feature of whatever species it is (could be a new species but still usually symetric). So for that question the low chance that it's an unusual individual gets balanced by the fact that almost all species discovered are symetrical.
Not just birds of paradise, its also seen in different beetles. Like if you see an atlas beetle, hercules, all kinds of rhino and stag beetles they can differ so much in number of horns, from one to five, shape from straight to really curved, numver of "teeth" on horns etc. While females are mostly all the same, differing only in size basically.
I work at the lab that worked on loki! And rhave worked with ethan! Ethan is so knowledgeable and passionate about dinosaurs and explains things in away thats wasy to understand! I hopes he comes on this channel more!
Yes, finding one specimen of a new species means we must assume that it's not a mutated individual as that would be highly unlikely, but that's assuming that it is a new species. We shouldn't jump to conclusions with so little evidence... that being only this one specimen. We do have multiple specimens of medusaceratops, therefore finding a mutated medusa is more likely than finding a new species. Laying all assumption aside, we can only deduce that it is what it is... a ceratopsian with an asymmetrical frill. Should we find more samples of asymmetrical frills matching this one, that would point toward it being a new species. It could go either way at this point.
@@risky_busine55 I think you misunderstood... When they said that, they were talking specifically about the two main horns over the eyes, not the asymmetry of the frill. They wouldn't have gone on for half an hour about it being specifically named for its asymmetry if it was all due to post mortem deformation.
@@Wolfie54545 I'm well aware of that... and I'll admit that there are several things about this specimen that point to it possibly being a new species. I'm just pointing out that scientists often jump to conclusions that later end up being debunked and reversed. As I said before, this one could go either way...
I'm not completely convinced by the "it's unlikely it isn't a malformed individual" thing, but your know, anything could be and this video was still very fascinating. Who knows. Hope we can find more evidence and know for sure. Either way, ceratopsians are amazing
Watching these 2 need out over dinosaurs is cool. New guy( I forgot name) is clearly a compeant speaker and able to "dumb it down" without sounding insulting. Honestly if he had a youtube I'd prob follow. But it's fun watching Clint learn and involve in the education. Also so jealous that he gets access to these prints
Yes please bring Ethan back. I love y’all’s interactions and knowledge. A trex video with you two sounds amazing. I don’t mind the tangents either because it’s so fun watching y’all get excited over sharing info
Clint, maybe this is an oddly specific request, but I’d love it if you made a video on the Ice Age Megafauna. Specifically Megatherium, and it’s relationship with humans - one of my favourite extinct animals of all time. Love the vids.
This is such a cool video and so well made. I really appreciate that you take the time to have a serious discussion with a hands-on expert in the field, without rushing or reaching for soundbites - but you also make time to explain details and enjoy a few tangents. Superb work.
I feel bad it took me this long to watch this video! Ethan was a fantastic guest and it really warmed my heart to see the two of them nerding out over their love of T-rex 🥰 Some incredible and in depth information in this video, thoroughly enjoyed it as always, Clint!
Interesting find. It’s amazing how much dinosaur species have changed in appearance since I was a child. Not only that, but the number of new species discovered. When I was young theropods were upright walkers with tails that touched the ground and by the time I was in high school, they all changed. Skin textures changed after discovering preserved skin in the fossil record. Feathers, no one would have thought any dinosaur had feathers when I was a kid. Love this stuff.
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the interview format was great and a good addition to your channel. So yes to more like this in the future please! And connecting one of your previous videos, I'd love you to geek out with a geologist as well.
Hey Clint, could you make a video on animal classifications? Would be nice to see your way of explaining the different categories that make up the classification system
Great video and interview Clint! Hope to see more videos like this on the channel and a huge thank you to Ethan! I learned so much from this that I did not know. 🎉 Here's to many more great videos! Cheers! 🎉
22:14 I thought it was the horns that get absorbed into the body to make the dome instead of it getting the material from its environment which could take a long time similar to how triceratops juveniles having spikes on their frills that is later lost in adults.
Good ol' Ethan, our resident T. rex superfan. I'm also hoping we get to work on some dromaeosaurs some day, but ceratopsians are probably my favorite dinos to work on... like Loki here! The hollow space in the orbital horns also expands as Centrosaurs age, which implies that Loki was a relatively old individual, if I remember what Mark says about it correctly. The hollow horns probably are also a big contributor to the crushing and deformation in the fossil, giving him the lop-sided quizzical brow look. When comparing Medusaceratops with Loki, the angle and length of the frills are a bit different, with Medusa's frills generally having a broad, somewhat round shape, whereas Loki has a taller, thinner rectangular frill. There's a pathology on the right jugal near his eye that I haven't seen anyone ever mention outside of when we were assembling and restoring the skull. It's a feature that we alluded to in the life sculpture we also produced (currently on display at the Natural History Museum of Utah)
1) Triceratops also does the thing of when getting mature the epiparietals dissapear into the frill. So in Marginocephalians both Triceratops and Pachycephalosaurus could be do the same thing while growing up, "absorbing" their spikes 2) Lokiceratops case could be the same of the two headed snakes found in the fossil record. The probability was around 0 to found and yet, they are the strange nutated individual of a species that lacks that weirdness
Adding on for your second point, we observe today that reptiles have a significantly higher survival rate when it comes to rather severe mutations, up to and including multi headed individuals. It would be intriguing to determine how far back that goes.
It's a shame this didn't get more views than some of your other content. This was wonderful I enjoyed this so much!! I hope you do more interviews soon. Someone mentioned prehistoric synapsids like gorgonopsid, that would be so cool!!!
*Could Lokicerators be just a hybrid or cross specie between Medusaceratops and Albertaceratops?* As especially when looking at crosses/hybrids like Mules, Ligers, Savannah etc, they will get bigger than their parents, and have mixed qualities of their parents but also look differently from them aswell. That difference in genes could of also resulted in them being asymmetrical (especially when it comes to unique horn shapes, like what's seen with crossing different goat breeds with distinctive horn shapes). In many cases crosses/hybrids can be sterile if they aren't closely related, but you did say the Medusa and Alberta are closely related. So it could be possible for them to be crossing, or at the very least originated as a cross and became their own species (which is not uncommon in birds). .... Tho I do find it a bit frustrating when he keeps comparing Dinosaurs to modern day animals. As just because certain trait doesn't occur in modern animals doesn't mean it's impossible for Dinosaurs to have traits that seem weird or backwards to them.
@@introvertedequinesamsara6593 If that were the case, Albertaceratops and Medusaceratops would have to be the same genus. Resolving the taxonomy of these animals takes priority before speculating that Lokiceratops is a hybrid of the two animals. Similarly, you need to prove Albertaceratops’ presence in the lower Judith River before making that assertion. Currently, it’s unknown from that formation
@@The_Dinosaur_Heretic youre right, establishing the taxonomic relationships between them is crucial before making claims about potential hybridization
While I agree on the point that dinosaurs may have done things that are absurd or “backwards”: what are we supposed to use to get an idea of ecological interactions and developmental changes if not living animals of similar sizes? Like, clearly your hybrid idea relies on knowing modern day birds do sometimes hybridize with other birds of the same genus, but it would require Albertaceratops and Medusaceratops to provably have lived in the same areas sometimes as someone else already pointed out, and that they’re actually different species of a same genus or they would have been too dissimilar (like how you can cross breed lions with tigers, but not with cheetahs).
Maybe this is a weird detail, but thanks for the graphic @ 11:55 - I think this is the first time I ever saw a female human in one of these size comparison graphs. Not just in relation to dinosaurs, but any animals in general are always sized up to male or indistinct humans. Not sure if you picked it on purpose, but I noticed in a good way, to feel included is a nice feeling.
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RUclips is such a bunch of weak babies. I think the reason they take videos down for barely a real reason is for them to be able to steal the monetary value of some videos so they can keep making more and more money for google..
The odd part is RUclips is fine with a Scare Tactics ad that, to me, heavily implies cannibalism during this video...
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We really, really don’t mind it isn’t Dinosaur December 😁
Seriously though 😂
Every month can be dinosaur month as far as I’m concerned lol 🦖
even if we did the "life finds a way." reference made up for it
One might even say we are into this kind of things.
It's still Sauropsid September.
Dinosaur Dseptember!
You'd only expect a dinosaur called "the trickster god's horned face" would be the one to throw a wrench into the current understanding of dinosaurs
When I clicked on the video, but before watching it, I assumed the Loki name *was* just because it was throwing a wrench into the current understanding of dinosaurs. lol
But, is it the HAGFISH of ceratopsians?
Ahhhhhh!!!!! GOD TIER!! A paleontology video with an active field scientist. You sirs have won the Internet
"I have chased T-Rex through three states." This is perhaps the most metal explanation of paleontology ever.
Smokey and The T-Rex😂
I would love to see more episodes of Clint in conversation with experts in different fields, especially on paleontology. I am fond of dinosaurs, but I would also love to see more discussion of synapsid "mammal like reptiles" like Dimetrodon and Gorgonops.
His infectiously cheerful and delighted attitude would enliven ANY subject and make it accessible!
Yes, I would love a video on synapsids part 1: everything but the mammals.
Them: "We don't know if Loki was a male or a female."
Me, a mythology nerd: "It really just depended on what kind of mischief he was up to that day."
Didn`t he turn into a mare,and give birth to an octopod flying horse?
@@mathewritchie Yes.
@@mathewritchie Yep! 😆
@mathewritchie well he was forced to solve an issue he had put the gods in. Turning into a mare to distract the Jotuns working horse was part of that.
There is a reoccurring pattern in mythology of Loki causing problems, and then proceed to go through some form of punishment or humiliation as a consequence of his actions.
In this case, ending up r@p*3d by a horse in a mare form
@@merlith4650 Yep, that's exactly right. We joke about it, but it's actually a rather unpleasant story. Lol
but is Lokiceratops the best pet?
Handleability: 1/5. Broke my house instantly
availability 0/5: extinct
It's low key the best pet
upfront cost also not great🤣
@@hic_tuslike with rats where the cage is usually the biggest upfront cost, the biggest cost for a lokiceratops is usually the time machine
I and many others are of the opinion that Lokiceratops is a species of Medusaceratops or synonymous with M. lokii. Cranial characteristics are how ceratopsids are diagnosed, and the strongly asymmetrical nature of the holotype specimen suggests the material may be nondiagnostic; we don’t have a reliable control. Furthermore, Lokiceratops occurs at the same level as Medusaceratops. Moreover, many specimens of Styracosaurus show an insane degree of individual variation with no clear trend, including asymmetrical specimens. It demonstrates that ceratopsids can show vastly different cranial characteristics and still represent the same taxon. One of the few convincing characters pertaining to Lokiceratops is that of the ischium, which is kinked about halfway down. This is unlike every other ceratopsid known and it’s very unusual for a postcranial element to be a distinct autapomorphy. Keep your eyes peeled for further analysis of the material
What makes one a dinosaur heretic?
Edit: btw, how did you get here 8 hours early?...
Patron @@CainXVII
@The_Dinosaur_Heretic
Just curious, what is your background in paleontology? You obviously know what you're talking about and its great to see contra-opinions that are well reasoned.
@Neidzwiedz1 Honestly, anyone can be a paleontologist now courtesy of the internet.
when he said battering ram pachyrhinosaurus it made me cringe lol
I have to remember to read between the lines when you say things... 👀
We literally just talked about doing Dinosaur related content outside Dinosaur December 12 hours ago! 😂
12 hours,well that was quick
You got a preview and you didn't even know! 😂
I still want a gastropods video! Animals with photosynthesis? Yes please!
Those cute little leaf sheep nudibranchs
Gastropods are so much cooler than dinosaurs
I would enjoy that as well, given that I've taken up fossil hunting recently and have been finding tons of gastropod fossils. I would like to know more about the little fellers I'm finding
25:11 - “its a realistic attitude” was so cold 💀
0:35 I love that your guest is directly involved in the discovery. That is a fantastic get!
I'm never going to complain about a dinosaur video outside of Dinosaur December. Dinosaurs are rad!
Stinkin rad!
Omg his tattoo skin portfolio is so cool! I love nerd 😂 We rock lol
That's some clean blackwork he's got there. Whoever his artist is did a great job.
@@YochevedDesignsesp with the sun exposure from working in the field
Bring this guy back in December.
Also, more interviews with researchers please.
Can we please get an armadillo video
Yes!
@@ClintsReptiles Hi Clint my friends and I always talk about how you make our day!
Armadillosuchus
@@ClintsReptilesyou should do a more indepth video on beaked whales
@@AllanTidgwellThis sounds like a German Latin joke! Suchen is searching 😂
With the limited number of fossils, is it also possible that these individuals had particularly asymmetry just like some cows have horn asymmetry even though most cow horns are fairly symmetric
His point was that the highest likelihood is that the most common specimen is also the most likely preserved.
It’s possible you are correct. However, more specimen of this particular species would be required.
Oh my gosh, watching two incredibly intelligent and nerdy guys geek out about dinosaurs and talk really high level (at least by my standards) is officially one of my favorite things. This was a delight and I could watch another 10 of these.
Here's why I love this channel: two scientists discussing a clade of extinct dinosaurs, correcting each other on nomenclature, ie, subfamily vs. family. The words are important when trying to explain evolution. Most popular sources, and most content creators, are not as careful, and possibly don't know. I, for one, really appreciate the technical accuracy.
One counter-argument to the whole juvenile Velociraptor being a glider thing is that the Gobi desert in the Cretaceous largely resembled how it is today, there weren't tall trees to Glide from. The famous fighting dinosaur fossil was likely preserved because a sand dune fell on it, not exactly a forested area
You can jump from the top of dunes. Maybe you glide from dune to dune and dive at prey you find.
This guy is really good at explaining things in an easy to understand way that doesnt make you feel dumb! Kudos
Clint having an annotated and visually supported, nerdy and academic conversation with a specialist academic and field worker in a scientific field different from his own? I think I have a new favorite kind of Clint video! (Though phylogenies are so, so delightful!)
Also, as a Latinist I am absolutely loving all of the scientific nomenclature!
Regarding the chance it is just deformed, properly analyzed, we need to use Bayes theorem and include both how rare it is that a species is asymmetric and the chance an individual is the result of unusual development, mutation etc
I think if you do that it turns out a lot less improbable than suggested
Definitely a job for Bayes theorem rather than precise statistics, but the prior for being a newly discovered species is quite high. Dozens of new valid dinosaur taxa turn up every year.
@@johnscanlon8467 That's certainly true and I'm not even suggesting it is one of the existing species. But that's a different question than whether asymmetric horns are a standard feature of whatever species it is (could be a new species but still usually symetric). So for that question the low chance that it's an unusual individual gets balanced by the fact that almost all species discovered are symetrical.
Not just birds of paradise, its also seen in different beetles. Like if you see an atlas beetle, hercules, all kinds of rhino and stag beetles they can differ so much in number of horns, from one to five, shape from straight to really curved, numver of "teeth" on horns etc. While females are mostly all the same, differing only in size basically.
Two scientists just having a chat is one of my favourite formats tbh
whatsinmy AI fixes this. Lokiceratops reshaping dinosaur understanding.
These two gentlemen are living the absolute dream! Clearly doing what they love and sharing it for our benefit. ❤
I would love nothing more than a six hour live stream of you two just nerding out about dinosaurs ngl
Really need more youtube vids where an expert gets to ramble excitedly about their field like this!
If I could like this twice I would. I loved this deep dive on a ceratopsid dinosaur. Great work!
I think I could listen to many conversations between these two good fellas
I work at the lab that worked on loki! And rhave worked with ethan! Ethan is so knowledgeable and passionate about dinosaurs and explains things in away thats wasy to understand! I hopes he comes on this channel more!
Hey, don't forget the narvals, snails, flounders, etc.!
(Ok, I understand, the reindeer is the best example here. :) )
I like the video
I loved the deep-dive into the different types of ceratopsians!
Clint I really loved this interview! Ceratopsians are my favorite dinosaurs and I appreciate the opportunity to learn more! Yes to the interviews!!!!
Yes, finding one specimen of a new species means we must assume that it's not a mutated individual as that would be highly unlikely, but that's assuming that it is a new species. We shouldn't jump to conclusions with so little evidence... that being only this one specimen. We do have multiple specimens of medusaceratops, therefore finding a mutated medusa is more likely than finding a new species. Laying all assumption aside, we can only deduce that it is what it is... a ceratopsian with an asymmetrical frill. Should we find more samples of asymmetrical frills matching this one, that would point toward it being a new species. It could go either way at this point.
Did you not watch the video? They literally said explicitly that the asymmetry could have been the result of post mortem deformation.
@@risky_busine55 I think you misunderstood... When they said that, they were talking specifically about the two main horns over the eyes, not the asymmetry of the frill. They wouldn't have gone on for half an hour about it being specifically named for its asymmetry if it was all due to post mortem deformation.
Dude this shot happens all the time. Species get recategorized constantly. You’d be surprised how much they can tell from very little.
@@Wolfie54545 I'm well aware of that... and I'll admit that there are several things about this specimen that point to it possibly being a new species. I'm just pointing out that scientists often jump to conclusions that later end up being debunked and reversed. As I said before, this one could go either way...
I think the lack of a nose horn is the clincher.
I'm not completely convinced by the "it's unlikely it isn't a malformed individual" thing, but your know, anything could be and this video was still very fascinating.
Who knows. Hope we can find more evidence and know for sure. Either way, ceratopsians are amazing
Wow! I never expected to see someone with my name on Clint's Reptiles!
Watching these 2 need out over dinosaurs is cool.
New guy( I forgot name) is clearly a compeant speaker and able to "dumb it down" without sounding insulting.
Honestly if he had a youtube I'd prob follow.
But it's fun watching Clint learn and involve in the education. Also so jealous that he gets access to these prints
My cat is named Loki and ceratops are my favorite dinosaurs. I NEED Lokiceratops to be its own species. I will not allow anyone to suggest otherwise.
Heck yeah! I'd love to see more interviews with palaeontologists (not to mention zoologists, botanists, etc.) willing to talk about their field!
Uh-oh... How many people are going to be donating chicken skeletons to Clint now?
Underrated comment
I have a duck skeleton in my fridge he's welcome to
Yes please bring Ethan back. I love y’all’s interactions and knowledge. A trex video with you two sounds amazing. I don’t mind the tangents either because it’s so fun watching y’all get excited over sharing info
Clint, maybe this is an oddly specific request, but I’d love it if you made a video on the Ice Age Megafauna. Specifically Megatherium, and it’s relationship with humans - one of my favourite extinct animals of all time. Love the vids.
Clint, I love your content so much! I love dinosaurs! This is great! You're my inspiration to get into zoology, thank you so much.
Excited to watch this new one, Clint! And still looking forward to your collab with Steve from YDAW!!
Great @ 0:07 .... What a tease! I had to search the clip for the fun extra 6 seconds.
This is such a cool video and so well made. I really appreciate that you take the time to have a serious discussion with a hands-on expert in the field, without rushing or reaching for soundbites - but you also make time to explain details and enjoy a few tangents. Superb work.
I feel bad it took me this long to watch this video! Ethan was a fantastic guest and it really warmed my heart to see the two of them nerding out over their love of T-rex 🥰 Some incredible and in depth information in this video, thoroughly enjoyed it as always, Clint!
Interesting find. It’s amazing how much dinosaur species have changed in appearance since I was a child. Not only that, but the number of new species discovered. When I was young theropods were upright walkers with tails that touched the ground and by the time I was in high school, they all changed. Skin textures changed after discovering preserved skin in the fossil record. Feathers, no one would have thought any dinosaur had feathers when I was a kid. Love this stuff.
Triceratopcians of paradise
Did not expect it but imimmediately existed about the idea
Clint holding the triceratops horn is my spirit animal
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Good to be educated by an expert ! Thank you and your guest.
Well- I DEFINITELY want to see more interviews like this! That's awesome!
So fascinating hearing the process behind field paleontology, it's such a vast subject with so much to discover.
I'm generally not a fan of tats, but I just have to make an exception. Those are cool.
What if, in millions of years, human descendants or aliens find one car fossil… and it’s a Nissan Cube
They're going to find millions of car "fossils". Cars aren't biodegradable.
Love, love, love this type of video! Hopefully there might be more interviews this Dinosaur December.
the interview format was great and a good addition to your channel. So yes to more like this in the future please! And connecting one of your previous videos, I'd love you to geek out with a geologist as well.
Can you make a frog phylogeny video pls (day 6)
Hey Clint, could you make a video on animal classifications? Would be nice to see your way of explaining the different categories that make up the classification system
Love the dinosaur content no matter the month. Being able to see new species and those I've never heard of before is awesome.
Thank you for clearing up the misconception regarding what classifies as a Thagomizer, much appreciated
Great video and interview Clint! Hope to see more videos like this on the channel and a huge thank you to Ethan! I learned so much from this that I did not know. 🎉 Here's to many more great videos! Cheers! 🎉
Absolutely love the interview format! Definitely interested in more with scientists, rescues, and/or ethical breeders.
youre great at interviewing people, you always ask great questions that lead to really interesting answers.
Very cool. Would love to see more videos like this, in addition to your usual content (‘cause those are fun too).
22:14 I thought it was the horns that get absorbed into the body to make the dome instead of it getting the material from its environment which could take a long time similar to how triceratops juveniles having spikes on their frills that is later lost in adults.
Good ol' Ethan, our resident T. rex superfan. I'm also hoping we get to work on some dromaeosaurs some day, but ceratopsians are probably my favorite dinos to work on... like Loki here!
The hollow space in the orbital horns also expands as Centrosaurs age, which implies that Loki was a relatively old individual, if I remember what Mark says about it correctly. The hollow horns probably are also a big contributor to the crushing and deformation in the fossil, giving him the lop-sided quizzical brow look.
When comparing Medusaceratops with Loki, the angle and length of the frills are a bit different, with Medusa's frills generally having a broad, somewhat round shape, whereas Loki has a taller, thinner rectangular frill.
There's a pathology on the right jugal near his eye that I haven't seen anyone ever mention outside of when we were assembling and restoring the skull. It's a feature that we alluded to in the life sculpture we also produced (currently on display at the Natural History Museum of Utah)
This format is excellent, please include it in the mix.
FASCINATING! I’m not huge into dinosaurs, but you held my attention the entire time! And I’m easy to distract.
Great video, I love this style. One of my favorites because he gives all sides, and then states evidence.
Great guest, knowledgeable and enthusiastic!
1) Triceratops also does the thing of when getting mature the epiparietals dissapear into the frill. So in Marginocephalians both Triceratops and Pachycephalosaurus could be do the same thing while growing up, "absorbing" their spikes
2) Lokiceratops case could be the same of the two headed snakes found in the fossil record. The probability was around 0 to found and yet, they are the strange nutated individual of a species that lacks that weirdness
Adding on for your second point, we observe today that reptiles have a significantly higher survival rate when it comes to rather severe mutations, up to and including multi headed individuals. It would be intriguing to determine how far back that goes.
as always,quality content,and super informative. much love Clint!💪❤
I LOVE CERATOPSIANS! Thanks for finally giving them a dedicated video
I really enjoyed this program. Please do more on dinosaurs. Absolutely loved it!
This was absolutely fascinating! You should totally do more with this guest
I would absolutely love some videos about prehistoric mammals, especially prehistoric canines!!!
It's a shame this didn't get more views than some of your other content. This was wonderful I enjoyed this so much!! I hope you do more interviews soon. Someone mentioned prehistoric synapsids like gorgonopsid, that would be so cool!!!
This was amazing!
You can tell he lives for what he does
Oooo! Exciting video and guest. ♡
Yes please! More videos like this! This was awesome!
You have a unique way of explaining complex ideas!
I hope we get Ornithomimosauria in Dinosaur December!
I LOVE this video and guest, would love more like this - thanks!
Ceratopsians are fascinating, the sheer variety of them is insane!
Hey! I’m taking Dinosaur December into my Afterschool and Winterbreak Childcare program this year, thanks Clint!
*Could Lokicerators be just a hybrid or cross specie between Medusaceratops and Albertaceratops?*
As especially when looking at crosses/hybrids like Mules, Ligers, Savannah etc, they will get bigger than their parents, and have mixed qualities of their parents but also look differently from them aswell. That difference in genes could of also resulted in them being asymmetrical (especially when it comes to unique horn shapes, like what's seen with crossing different goat breeds with distinctive horn shapes). In many cases crosses/hybrids can be sterile if they aren't closely related, but you did say the Medusa and Alberta are closely related. So it could be possible for them to be crossing, or at the very least originated as a cross and became their own species (which is not uncommon in birds).
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Tho I do find it a bit frustrating when he keeps comparing Dinosaurs to modern day animals. As just because certain trait doesn't occur in modern animals doesn't mean it's impossible for Dinosaurs to have traits that seem weird or backwards to them.
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If that were the case, Albertaceratops and Medusaceratops would have to be the same genus. Resolving the taxonomy of these animals takes priority before speculating that Lokiceratops is a hybrid of the two animals. Similarly, you need to prove Albertaceratops’ presence in the lower Judith River before making that assertion. Currently, it’s unknown from that formation
@@The_Dinosaur_Heretic youre right, establishing the taxonomic relationships between them is crucial before making claims about potential hybridization
While I agree on the point that dinosaurs may have done things that are absurd or “backwards”: what are we supposed to use to get an idea of ecological interactions and developmental changes if not living animals of similar sizes? Like, clearly your hybrid idea relies on knowing modern day birds do sometimes hybridize with other birds of the same genus, but it would require Albertaceratops and Medusaceratops to provably have lived in the same areas sometimes as someone else already pointed out, and that they’re actually different species of a same genus or they would have been too dissimilar (like how you can cross breed lions with tigers, but not with cheetahs).
This young man was so interesting! Thank you for sharing his research with us
He is a great teacher summing up the frills, belateral etc. Learned a lot in nano moments.Loki me!
Maybe this is a weird detail, but thanks for the graphic @ 11:55 - I think this is the first time I ever saw a female human in one of these size comparison graphs. Not just in relation to dinosaurs, but any animals in general are always sized up to male or indistinct humans. Not sure if you picked it on purpose, but I noticed in a good way, to feel included is a nice feeling.
Clint that was a great video. Thank's for sharing
I'm SO excited to listen to this video but man the tattoo portfolio is giving SUCH Newt from Pacific Rim vibes. Amazing!
Ethan is an amazing guest and I can't wait for more episodes with him!
Lowkey, this was my favorite video based on a loki.
Great guest, very interesting conversation.
Is Thagomizer named after Gary Larson? I feel like it is
It is.
It was named after the late Thag Simmons.
Yes, some paleontologists are still salty about it.
*by Larson