Big Wagh! Tier List!

Tell me what you think about my thoughts on Big Wagh! unit power in the comments. It's a big list...

[@MapOfTheLost]

very new to Aos and I've been getting bodied by my friends slaves to darkness army, these videos have been immensely helpful to understand the faction better, really appreciate the work you put into these

[@MossDogAoS]

You are very welcome. Use noisy racket and dissapearin' act on his chosen 😜

[@Malevodjia]

Hi, thanks for the vidéo.
It's very difficult to round up all those datas in Big Waaagh.
I think swampcalla shaman more in the S tier because the poison of the shaman is way more of an improvement on the damage output on boltboyz , also it's very common with recent battletome to face army with 5/6 ward so mortal wound are quite essential to have, and you don't have much slot for Hero left because you need at least 1 warchanter (more likely 2 one to heal unit the other for -1 to hit on ennemy ) and 1 Bonessplitter wizard to get waaagh points and so cost wise I would run at least 1 shaman & 1 unit of 6 boltboyz, if you go with 2 unit of boltboyz there is pros and cons to consider to choose between Shaman an Sludgeraker (mostly spellwise compare to other faction wizards), and if you consider to include Gutripaz because of the followings.
I will probably up Gutripaz on B tier for the same reason plus the recent changes. Put them right behind Ardboyz (who can come back on a 4 up; 2 out of five got a ward on 6) with the 2" range of the stickas, this can be a pretty strong and deadly conbination (Poison on Gutripaz + warsong -1 to hit on ennemy targeting ardboyz)
There is probably much more to consider especially Bonesspliterwize ward and how do they interract with they're wizard, inner warscroll habilities, but it's gonna be to long for a youtube comment :) .

[@MossDogAoS]

Sounds like you should be making videos too!

[@Malevodjia]

@@MossDogAoS Haha thanks a lot, but I'm still fairly new to the hobby.
And i'm more cumfortable commenting than making content.
But keep going you doing great for the Waaagh !

[@davidcampbell621]

Savage big boss is unusual, he can make another hero fight after, so you can go all in on the meme and have 2-6 of them fight in succession.

[@MossDogAoS]

Seems fun!

[@davidcampbell621]

While I wouldn't move gutrippaz up to B tier, I think theres a strong case for taking 1 unit of them if you run supa sneaky.
Supa sneaky happens before turn order, so if you get outdropped its nice to have a throwaway unit to alpha screen with or throw onto an objective, for those times when using it on a mirebrute/boltboyz/etc is a bad idea.

[@MossDogAoS]

Why not a unit of Ardboyz instead?

[@davidcampbell621]

@@MossDogAoS supa sneaky is kruleboyz keyworded unfortunately. I'd much rather use some 'ardboyz for it.

[@MossDogAoS]

@@davidcampbell621 Good point.

[@Jabber_AoS]

Hobgrots are a great screen and cheaper

[@custodesdan1089]

I’d reconsider gutrippaz and savage/maniak boarboyz. A unit of 10 gutrippaz could have 30-40 attacks with 6s doing 2 mortals. Boarboyz can utilize glowinging green tusks making them much fightier

[@MossDogAoS]

30-40 attacks with two mortals? What am I missing. I see 21 attacks with 1 mortal.

[@custodesdan1089]

The waaagh gives 1 and the no pile in command gives 1 and add the sludgeraker aura for and extra mortal on 6s

[@sheepys551]

@@custodesdan1089 what no pile in command?

[@custodesdan1089]

No retreat, No surrender

[@markpandelidis2079]

Krondspine not going to survive as well as a unit of goregruntas..........he can't be killed in a single turn and he always kills his points. I agree he's not worth taking. But atleast say the correct thing lol. He is way more survivable than 6 goregruntas. And he doesn't count as being slain so he denies battle tactics

[@MossDogAoS]

Correct.

[@shadowolfnara4749]

I think ya missed 1 for the named units "The Kunnin Krew" that has "Mannok Da Kunnin " but i can agree to this teir to some extent but really play what you want ill run 20 savage orruks as a big regiments just to have some bonesplitterz yes they got the short end of stick on the big waaagh. But again it for fun for me. I love yhe idea or this hoard army and having the ironjawz up front kruleboyz mid range giving support and bonesplitterz to help fill in gaps i may have plus i want my big waaagh to each hve their own un-orruk skin colors like its the outcast orruks banging together

[@MossDogAoS]

Nice.

[@msugajski]

You said that hobgrots cannot be taken as battleline in big waagh, only in kruleboyz. But the rule on gutripaz say, for each unit of gutripaz you can take hogrotsa as battleline in your army. Doesn't say kruleboyz army. And the app lets you chose a slot for Hobgrot as battleline or other. So am I missing something? Is there an FAQ that says you can't do this in big waagh?

[@MossDogAoS]

I was just assuming it was for KBs only. Looks like I was wrong :)
Still wouldn't take a unit of Gutrippaz thought.

[@Sabush1]

Maybe I missed it, but Gordrakk is great. Better than a Megaboss on Mawkrusha because his Voice of Gork-ability works on all units, not just Ironjawz. Sending him out early to kill something small is good for many reasons because it ramps both Waaagh faster and his Strength From Victory-ability.

[@Sabush1]

Also Gobsprakk is A-tier imo because he gives access to all the Kruleboyz-spells, and some of those spells are amazing and the rest are situationally good.

[@MossDogAoS]

I disagree. I would site the same arguments for Maw-crusha; too many points doing nothing. However, I agree that he is better. His triple command is good for all Orruks.

[@MossDogAoS]

@@Sabush1 but with no bonus to cast, you won't see them go off consistently enough.

[@markpandelidis2079]

Hed-KRAKA. It's head cracker is what his name is. Also yoi said Gobsprakk is a 3 csst, he's only 2. Iron skull boyz are much harder hitting, they have rend and more damage. And you missed Kunnin' krew. But its F tier lol

[@MossDogAoS]

He's so bad I refuse to speak his name. 👋

[@markpandelidis2079]

@@MossDogAoS lol

[@CPyJIb]

Gobsprak is a B tier in Big Waaagh ?

[@MossDogAoS]

This was 6 months ago. :)

[@CPyJIb]

@@MossDogAoS points updates and rule changes were not in effect 6 months ago ?

[@MossDogAoS]

I can't remember what I had for breakfast ;)@@CPyJIb