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  • @HowNOT2
    @HowNOT2  Год назад +19

    I hope you can see the drop tower through the trees. Please be safe if you do stupid stuff at home!
    Z2 Drill Powered Pulley - hownot2.store/products/z2
    LineScale3 - hownot2.store/products/linescale-3

    • @ohokcool
      @ohokcool Год назад

      LOL

    • @TrueHelpTV
      @TrueHelpTV 11 месяцев назад

      boiling water should clean your quick release without damaging it.

  • @ryenschimerman2127
    @ryenschimerman2127 Год назад +53

    Ryan has become that super enthusiastic science teacher I loved in middle school, and I'm all about it.

  • @mikegibson8426
    @mikegibson8426 Год назад +7

    The process is not boring. Anyone watching this wants to hear the details or they wouldn't be watching in the first place.

  • @robbob_the_climber
    @robbob_the_climber Год назад +16

    The wealth and collective knowledge that you share with each and every video you put out just gets better and better thanks man I appreciate everything you do!❤🎉❤

  • @OTOss8
    @OTOss8 11 месяцев назад +4

    I don't rock climb. I never have. Not a single day in my life. The most I've ever climbed was the tree that used to be in the front yard of my childhood home. It had boards nailed to it to assist in that endeavour. This was very interesting though. I'm not sure why RUclips recommended this to me but I'm glad it did. I've learned a little bit about your world and that's a really cool thing. Cheers.

    • @BRENDANTHERED
      @BRENDANTHERED 2 месяца назад

      Have you started climbing yet?

  • @bobohunter1776
    @bobohunter1776 Год назад +12

    I'd be interested in seeing some rope course/ challenge course stuff tested (eye bolts, LEAP anchors, lobster claws, aircraft cable, actual elements, etc). I know the ACCT has some pretty strict standards but I haven't been able to find anything on their testing process.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад +13

      That is on the agenda. Bobby is currently building challenge courses with a ACCT PVM.

    • @bobohunter1776
      @bobohunter1776 Год назад +3

      ​@@HowNOT2 Awesome! When you mentioned rope courses at the beginning that made me think of that, but I didn't expect you to already be working on a video of them.

  • @tomsmith3045
    @tomsmith3045 11 месяцев назад +1

    This was awesome! There is so much work that happens between theory and reality in engineering that people never see. So you don't want to hear this, but there's another way to drop test things besides a tower or tree. A really deep well! Or a mine shaft. And as a bonus, it's potentially way more dangerous than towers. But if you have access to an old mine shaft, and don't mine the potential of losing some of your gear forever, it might be an option. :)

  • @RenatoUtsch
    @RenatoUtsch Год назад +3

    YES! I LOVE seeing the systems you use for testing

  • @lewisrichards6572
    @lewisrichards6572 Год назад +4

    Super cool video!!! A lot more work going on behind the scenes then one might think. Appreciate it!

  • @satanaz
    @satanaz Год назад +1

    man, even though I have given up on many cool projects in the past, just because I hit a wall, or the results were not good enough, it is always hard to grasp how much work goes into a simple YT video, explaining physics.
    I've been there, I should known better
    but this video really illustrates how hard it is to go through the process. appreciate you sharing! Even if it made the whole process even longer, by having to script and record this extra bit

  • @ushi120
    @ushi120 Год назад

    Perfect demonstration! Thx Ryan and your team to put all your efforts into this videos, for us.
    👏👏👏👍❤

  • @Outsidersman
    @Outsidersman Год назад +5

    18.47 that Biner is not properly closed. 😅 (Of course Ryan has a second attachment point, so super good enough.)

  • @DanNacht
    @DanNacht Год назад +1

    loved the behind the scenes! .....Also loved the Drill powered pulley, may be my next impulse buy

  • @dan-dan-da-treeman
    @dan-dan-da-treeman 9 месяцев назад

    More complicated but you could set a negative speed line to hold the weights close to the tree. Love the set up. I will be visiting the store soon. My body thanks you folks. Send it!

  • @perstaffanlundgren
    @perstaffanlundgren 10 месяцев назад

    Winches that work well for back and forward /up down operations , is does that wind up the rope wire rope or the drum without having a end going out, or Winches that pull the rope wire
    "straight through "
    The capstan type where the rope goes around the drum several times and "out the back" , dont work very well when letting rope /wire out due to the rope rolling out will get under the rope of the drum.
    There are "rope pullers" / wire pullers that will work with endless ropes , in out .. and motorized winches that do the same.

  • @climbingtaiwan
    @climbingtaiwan Год назад

    Loving these transparent (behind the scenes) videos. We're all building off of each other's experiences and knowledge.

  • @BoBandits
    @BoBandits Год назад

    It is great to see you growing so rapidly now!

  • @matiascamprubi-soms7719
    @matiascamprubi-soms7719 Год назад +2

    I would definitely consider that Z2 device for use in tree work. Sometimes it is nice to get an easy ride to the top with 50# of rigging line, a big block, and a 20# chainsaw.

  • @markifi
    @markifi Год назад +1

    very neat. there's also the harken lokhead winch for this kind of stuff.
    i used to do that crossed ziptie thing on my via ferrata carabiners. now i just use a scaffold knot instead. it's annoying when they can rotate

    • @wdedelman
      @wdedelman Год назад +1

      Or the new Harken Top crank 500 winch!

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад +1

      @@wdedelman The harken ones are nice but they require mounting and are $2000

  • @wdedelman
    @wdedelman Год назад +2

    For lifting stuff I would go for the Harken Riggerswinch 200 or 500. (200kg or 500kg), which has been replaced recently by the Topcrank winch 500. It is two-speed and has a manual crank. You can buy an adapter for a (angeled) drill. It will haul easily (I've been testing it last month with over 250m of rope and a weight of 300+ kg).
    For personal ascent you can consider buying the new Skylotec ICX which allso complies to the machine guidelines (European laws when using powered machines).

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад +1

      I considered a Topcrank 500 but it looks like it has to be mounted and it costs $2000k. I've used them on sail boats and they are nice. Releasing a load can sometimes have the same issues as a capstan.
      I didn't see where to buy a Skylotec ICX but the acx is 18,000 and is basically a Ronin. Got to feed the end of the rope through the device instead of installing it anywhere. I really like being able to add and remove this device from the system at any point.

  • @brucewessels4739
    @brucewessels4739 Год назад

    Thank you for all the effort. Your videos are amazing.🎉

  • @photobillyexplores
    @photobillyexplores 11 месяцев назад

    thought about a tiptie around the soft shackle under the anchor? little pinch might keep it flying off again

  • @pendarischneider
    @pendarischneider Год назад

    Wonderful work, thank you. On the topic of what weight to drop I sympathise with the need to keep things small enough for safe handling. Consider making the total weight from multiples of about 20kg. Build them with an eye top and bottom, then shackle together as many as you need in place at the bottom of the drop. This will allow you 20-40-50-80-100kg testing as you wish. The predictable downside is the metal on metal crash as these 20kg metal sausages do a train crash simulation on impact... good slow mo for a few times. I think they will survive, but this assertion will need to be tested of course. 😉

  • @photobillyexplores
    @photobillyexplores 11 месяцев назад

    fantastic work, id be happy to watch a live steam once in a while like behind the sceans!!

  • @josephvargas187
    @josephvargas187 11 месяцев назад

    I figured it out, you’re the linustechtips of climbing. Amazing

  • @CheyenneWills
    @CheyenneWills Год назад

    Question.. why not take the Drill Powered Pulley up into the tree with you and pull from above? That way should be able to make any adjustments directly...

  • @dgoodman1484
    @dgoodman1484 11 месяцев назад

    Hmm, a linescale and a tree? Seems like a simple thing to test a couple different diameter branches say 6” out from the trunk and see what they break at. Not the best plan but I’ve seen once or twice guys trying to get a line up as high as possible without always tying in! May have even done it myself once. 😁👍🏼

  • @niclemaitre
    @niclemaitre Год назад

    I'd be interested. We have a Harken Rigger 500, and burnt out a Milwaukee SuperHawg several times trying to raise ~200 kg with some edge friction using a main and belay setup. We've moved to twin tension (load sharing two rope systems) now and I wonder how this would perform as a raising device, with one on each rope.

  • @hoggif
    @hoggif Год назад

    That was interesting to see behind the scenes.

  • @sdersham
    @sdersham 11 месяцев назад

    Your second safety line carabiner was open on the bolt when you showed the connections. 😅

  • @alexandern8hgeg5e9
    @alexandern8hgeg5e9 Год назад

    2:34 About the square tubing I think it's negligible. But the "self-pinching" effect of these 2 rocks is a thing.
    About the square tubing: The forces that are responsible for the failure are from the dropped weight and they are transferred through the rope which is already stretching way more than the square tubing. So if it had stayed in place it couldn't have added that much more stretch to the rope.

  • @TheRopeAccessChannel
    @TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад

    I love this video!! Great to see the BTS of the process. The amount of work that goes into a 5 second clip in a video is enormous man!.
    That Z2 is useless for rope access work in the EU I think. It is not certified for anything. What happens if you let go of the handle during descent?
    It is perfect for what you are doing though ;-)

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  11 месяцев назад +1

      The teeth engage and you go no where if you let go of handle. All those certs cost so much that it is an awesome tool when you don’t need the certs.

    • @TheRopeAccessChannel
      @TheRopeAccessChannel 11 месяцев назад

      @@HowNOT2 that sounds like a good deal. Not that expensive and does what it is supposed to do as long as there is no client who wants certs for everything. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @slowgold20
    @slowgold20 Год назад +3

    That Z2 device is interesting. Looks like they scaled up a Skylotech Milan and added a ratcheting gear. Is there someone else making a similar device? I wouldn't want to use it for rope access without a lot more research. Using it for ascent only seems cool, but using it as a descender is triggering my Spidey senses. Imported rigging gear is impossible to avoid at this point--you typically won't find domestically produced wire rope anywhere, and the industry has kinda just accepted that. But every other vendor we use for rope access or rigging gear must either be a US company or major offices in the US or other countries that cooperate with the US legal system, traceability marks, etc... I don't like the idea of using complex rigging gear with a broken chain of liability. Maybe for personal use it doesn't matter so much, but this device is too expensive for that lol!

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад

      Good feedback.

    • @slowgold20
      @slowgold20 Год назад

      at risk of taking it to seriously as I tend to do sometimes... if you are importing them directly the chain of liability ends with you.@@HowNOT2

    • @wdedelman
      @wdedelman Год назад +1

      Well, the Ronin winch is end-feed. You cannot pass a labeled piece of rope trough. The new Skylotec ICX is a much cheaper alternative for their proven ACX and costs about 1/2.

    • @lw671
      @lw671 Год назад

      Am I right, this device is not certified to any international standard? Maybe I would be carefull as advertising it for personal lifting....

    • @climbingtaiwan
      @climbingtaiwan 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@lw671According to the manufacturer, it's been tested and qualified for the standard : XF 494-2004, "Fall arrest equipment for fire fighting". It's a standard under China's Safety Industry Standards. But not an International one.

  • @alexandern8hgeg5e9
    @alexandern8hgeg5e9 Год назад

    5:55 You could add a bit of dynamic rope to simulate "squishiness". To fully simulate it you would probably also need some damping.

  • @adamreynolds3863
    @adamreynolds3863 Год назад

    damn thats a lot of set up! i never realized how complex this was!

  • @ryanpenrod1859
    @ryanpenrod1859 Год назад

    I think you live very close to me, that place has got that hilltop-above-puget-sound look.

  • @GabrielJones
    @GabrielJones 11 месяцев назад

    Please review the SuperHandy portable electric capstan.

  • @djohnspangler
    @djohnspangler Год назад +1

    Do you adjust for the camera adding 15 lbs?

  • @monkemode8128
    @monkemode8128 11 месяцев назад

    I'm only commenting here because it's your latest video, but I think it would be really cool if you set up the dynos on a real highline, climb, and/or rappel and see what forces are over time. I imagine it'll be what's expected but it's nice to verify and even better if there are any unexpected results.

  • @timmo971
    @timmo971 11 месяцев назад

    Climbers! (Tsk tsk from a ropey) I can’t believe you decided to climb the tree when you have a battery ascender on hand. It’s not an everyday item so that’d be like a holiday to me.

  • @m.a.6478
    @m.a.6478 Год назад +1

    Sooo, it does work with metric feet right?

  • @PaulSteMarie
    @PaulSteMarie Год назад

    Couldn't you use a second cord to make a 100' (or whatever) bight in the row, put the load cell on top, and then cut the second cord to allow the main rope to drop 100' freefall and bottom out?
    I don't know jack diddliy squat about climbing, but that little capstan or reel or whatever you want to call it is the best damn little come-along alternative i think I've seen. That would be real handy for, say, pulling a machine tool up into a tilt trailer or similar.

  • @Zogg1281
    @Zogg1281 Год назад

    You know when you have to move the really heavy weight back to the tree? You could try attaching your green lifting rope to it and use the winch to drag it back to the tree for you. Just throwing the thought out there for you as sometimes it's hard to see simple ideas when you are so close to a project.
    Also, that winch looks amazing, I just wish I could justify spending that much money when I'd be using it once a week as part of a hobby 😂

  • @JGnLAU8OAWF6
    @JGnLAU8OAWF6 Год назад

    Yay, natural dropping tower!

  • @alexstarr1589
    @alexstarr1589 Год назад +1

    When raising the weight, you said the quick release is all that's holding it. Why not back it up with something until right before you're ready to do the test?
    Edit: watched the rest of the video and at least with the setup done in this video, there doesn't seem to be a good reason not to put in some backup. I was wondering if you would remotely trigger the test from the ground, but you're releasing the weight from right by the LineScale so I would definitely recommend backing up that quick release!

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад

      Yes, sometimes we can do that with a long soft shackle that's loose and removable, but if we lift the sample up much higher than the LS3, it's not practical to access it to remove it.

    • @alexstarr1589
      @alexstarr1589 Год назад

      @@HowNOT2 Yeah, that makes sense. Just to spit-ball a few other ideas:
      1. Does the QR shackle have a safety pin of some sort? Perhaps that could be rigged up with its own release line so that you need 2 lines to be pulled in the correct sequence to release the weight.
      2. There are remotely-releasable hitches that you could use to tie your release line so that the hitch must be undone before the release line will pull on the QR shackle. For example, the highwayman's hitch. That would require pulling longer and harder on the release line before the QR would release. You'd have to make sure that there isn't any slack in the line between the QR and the hitch, since you wouldn't want that portion of the line to be able to snag on anything.
      Hope that makes sense. Just trying to help add layers of safety!

  • @TheHackysack
    @TheHackysack Год назад

    7:51 The drop tower in Lodi? Lodi is a town I live in. Did I mishear you or is there actually another town with the same name (because I seriously doubt you live near me lol)?

  • @smokijo3163
    @smokijo3163 11 месяцев назад

    Probably a silly question, but whatis the difference between a Metric foot and an Imperial foot?

  • @Whateva67
    @Whateva67 Год назад

    R u in Northern California here?

  • @miketyson8658
    @miketyson8658 10 месяцев назад

    My only suggestion as a climbing arborist would be, walk your rope down the hill and use your z2 to winch the 150lb "dummy" back up, instead of humping it up the hill.

  • @richardsmith9918
    @richardsmith9918 6 месяцев назад

    How do you fabricate the dienima soft shackles? I weight close to 230lb 104.5kg just drop me we will all feel better 😨

  • @GeoffSobering
    @GeoffSobering Год назад

    Just curious: how many lifts do you get from one drill battery?

  • @bradley3549
    @bradley3549 Год назад

    That Z2 looks like it would be super slick if it just had a motor built into it and took a common power tool battery.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад

      Then it would cost more around $3000-$4000. I like it being lighter and more flexible.

    • @bradley3549
      @bradley3549 Год назад

      @@HowNOT2 Seems like the Ronin et-al is kind of overkill - batteries, motors and controllers aren't that expensive these days, but maybe that's in favor of line speed. What kind of speed are you seeing out of the Z2 with your hand drill?

  • @philmiller2465
    @philmiller2465 Год назад

    You look cold in this one. Ryan in double puffy jacket degrees

  • @satanaz
    @satanaz Год назад

    can you have a fall bigger than 2x fall?

    • @satanaz
      @satanaz Год назад

      just realized after posting this that with via-ferrata it is fairly easy to get more than 2-factor fall

  • @nickford5549
    @nickford5549 Год назад

    As an electrician that pulls a lot of rope that’s awesome

  • @Pinginman
    @Pinginman 11 месяцев назад

    Has anyone here ever heard of blue ox rope I'm just curious I hear about it from friends wanted some other people's word if they have used it

  • @crakkbone
    @crakkbone 7 месяцев назад

    Oh. Ur not hurting da tree. ❤

  • @jesseshort8
    @jesseshort8 Год назад +57

    Tree worker here, that mulch volcano around the trunk is doing more harm to that tree than dropping stuff from it as long as you drop it close to the trunk.

    • @winterwatson6811
      @winterwatson6811 Год назад +11

      while mulch volcanos are to be avoided, it looks like there is still some flare above ground. not ideal but the tree should be able to breath okay

    • @robbob_the_climber
      @robbob_the_climber Год назад +6

      He didn’t put the mulch around there I’m assuming😂😂 and do you not see the root flare Tree Worker?? That mulch is not causing any problems

    • @arpytrooper2604
      @arpytrooper2604 Год назад +5

      ​@@robbob_the_climberthat's the point, he didn't put it there and he's doing less damage to it than the mulch volcano thus he's not doing much damage to it at all

    • @robbob_the_climber
      @robbob_the_climber Год назад

      @@arpytrooper2604 🤙

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад +12

      @@winterwatson6811 The dirt goes up to that edge of the tree. We really aren't covering any part of the tree. I just didn't want to have it land in the dirt that's angled away from the base of the tree.

  • @BurchellAtTheWharf
    @BurchellAtTheWharf 11 месяцев назад +1

    As a boat guy, i wood give er a try, 😅 26:55
    Have a man power Capstine and it does the capstine stuff 😆 but this electric er drill power ones are intriguing 😮😮

    • @BurchellAtTheWharf
      @BurchellAtTheWharf 11 месяцев назад

      @@kiereluurs1243 as a fisherman, I would give this a try.
      26:55 I have ahand crank powered captstand, and it works good but does the captstand flip an bite when it desides to do it's slip. But a drill powered one sounds like a good idea, but wonder how it would handle the saltwater life
      My original way was more fun though 🤣

  • @Profixt
    @Profixt Год назад

    I'll have people asking about Metric Feet now... sigh!

  • @joshrob316
    @joshrob316 Год назад

    About the video: Long, but good... (Insert your favorite Michael Scott meme)

  • @matthewgough9533
    @matthewgough9533 Год назад

    Everybody's right, or nobody is. - Sounds about right.

  • @octaneaandmusic
    @octaneaandmusic Год назад

    'Metric foot' lol

  • @michaelreader03
    @michaelreader03 Год назад +1

    Heyo! New vid!

  • @stereothrilla8374
    @stereothrilla8374 11 месяцев назад

    Surprised you don’t just reattach the main rope to move the dummy back over rather than doing it by hand.

  • @josiahnowak4418
    @josiahnowak4418 11 месяцев назад

    can you tes jb weld and jb weld quickest instead of your normal anchor glue?

  • @d21d3q
    @d21d3q Год назад +1

    Metric units overlay pls? ❤❤

    • @FBWJX
      @FBWJX Год назад

      He said metric foot

    • @d21d3q
      @d21d3q Год назад

      🤔

    • @leveller4
      @leveller4 Год назад +1

      Fall factor is unitless, it's a ratio of distance of fall to length of rope in the system. 2 ft fall on 2 ft of rope is a factor 1 fall, just as a 2m fall on 2m of rope would be a factor 1.

    • @leveller4
      @leveller4 Год назад

      Oh, unless you're talking about the weight dropped (150lbs ~= 68kg)

  • @mikerawdon8518
    @mikerawdon8518 11 месяцев назад +1

    Why are you dressed for 8000 meters when it's, what, maybe 40 F out?

  • @dinodouche
    @dinodouche 11 месяцев назад

    Bro, you need to reach out to ballistic dummy labs and have then make you a full body replica out of ballistic gel. You could put it in clothes and harness it would be cool for these tests

  • @wido123123
    @wido123123 Год назад +1

    Expert here: your test is invalid. You didn't crossloaded, the carabiners are too new, the slings are not used enough, the soft-shackles look too nice and I'm sure the micro-traction is adding to the force of the test.
    Did I missed anything 😬?

  • @buckcorrigan9595
    @buckcorrigan9595 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ryan, ..PLEASE...! You orient something, not orientate it....orient it properly, then it has been oriented....

  • @ujjc001
    @ujjc001 Год назад +2

    18:46 you're gonna die!!!

    • @SuraLeo
      @SuraLeo Год назад

      Why?

    • @deadfishporter
      @deadfishporter Год назад +1

      Ha! I just got to that point and got a good chuckle. ☠️

    • @jorygeerts9416
      @jorygeerts9416 Год назад +1

      ​@@SuraLeoOpen carabiner by the looks of it. Though the other one is probably closed, so yay for redundancy.

    • @SuraLeo
      @SuraLeo Год назад

      @@jorygeerts9416 didn't they do a test and found it was good enough*

  • @syringa-lutea
    @syringa-lutea Год назад

    @HowNOT2 I get that you're trying to grow the channel and have it be a good source of income, but I find the new clickbait-style video titles really annoying...it's impossible to know what's in the video and makes it really annoying to go back search again for something specific when they all are titled something generic

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад +2

      Please be patient. It's literally the difference in whether or not this channel makes it. The book I'm working on will organize all the content so it will be very easy and enjoyable to go through our entire library. I'm not trying to make this a good source of income.... I'm trying to make it sustainable. If a small fraction of people click on the video, the channel may end. The work I do and want to do isn't sustainable for channel with 10k subscribers.

    • @syringa-lutea
      @syringa-lutea Год назад

      @@HowNOT2 yeah, I assumed as much. Such is the system we live in. Appreciate everything you do!

  • @Iceberg86300
    @Iceberg86300 Год назад +1

    Just buy the NASA vehicle assembly building. Tallest indoor drop tower *_EVER,_* stairs, walk ways, and several gantry cranes. Couple more good months in the store & you should have more than enough money! 😁