@@juzyx I have a theory that Abe got captured by CG and torture her for the data of the second generation Grimms model and because of the torture she got mind switch which results of her becoming Grave
@@hakem705She has the same helmet as Abe plus like others stated she has the same attributes as Abe did as a technician, plus even after the mind switches she still never abandoned Cinderella, so yeah, that's gotta be her
Imagine volunteering to make yourself the first Mass Produced so you can serve humanity tirelessly without stop and in the end you're labeled as traitor. At this point, this probably the first time she received a recognition.
Man knowing how abe created second generation goddess squad of which were considered failures and traitors of humanity This complement from mana must have meant alot for her To have at least contributed something good and not filled with bad memories
Grave (with these outfit): By Mana, I'm going back to the battlefield Mana: Not dressed like that, you aren't young lady! Grave (with playable outfit & face reveal and show her with her 999.999.999+ aura): Better? Mana (with sparkling eyes while being amazed): *Yas bitch slay!!!*
don't nikkes kinda of look like they do cause they envision their perfect self? considering that new models can't actually grow muscle mass like old ones i think that's the case, her perception of herself changed over a hundred years, which represented in a new body
Old Nikke Models can actually train their bodies like regular humans to gain muscle this was revealed in on of the Outpost stories Involving Romani and Laplace as Romani revealed to Laplace that she can't grow muscles or get stronger via conventional training as she is a newer model of Nikke so Grave/Abe definitely gained that physique via training and carrying around heavy stuff like the coffin for Cinderella for years and years. what I do find weird is Abe has a Thiccer body type than the regular Product 23 like Pinne and she's a mass produced Nikke so they should look the same at the start but Abe is noticeably thiccer my only theory is maybe Product 23s have that body type but is hidden due to the armor around them like what D does or Abe is the original Product 23 and the rest of the Product 23s are modeled after her but was streamed lined.
@@HaiseKuromeruMMD nikke could get a mind switch if they if they change parts too much or too often, in goddess squat only Rapunzel who has yet to get a mind switch, because she sacrifices her memory every year to maintain her old memory of all the goddess squat member, she also can maintain her own body since she has healing ability, so she doesn't need to change parts as often as other member.. it really is amazing how Grave/Abe also didn't get a mind switch after all those years, and sad because she has to endure all those memory by herself...
Remember that Syuen has to behave herself unless she wants to be “recruited” to the Commander’s team. I know Enik said she wouldn’t be able to do that until she found a replacement CEO for Missilis, but she’s had plenty of time to do so…
The fact grave cried after hearing that mustve meant alot to her
Every ambitious sort wants to make their mark in history, tortured souls go on expecting they accomplished nothing
Mana: Abe-Senpai
abe is grave!?
@@hakem705 It's pretty obvious though. Who else can repair Cinderella?
@@hakem705 Abe is Grave yeah, possibly went thru quite a few mind switches to lose her original personality
@@juzyx I have a theory that Abe got captured by CG and torture her for the data of the second generation Grimms model and because of the torture she got mind switch which results of her becoming Grave
@@hakem705She has the same helmet as Abe plus like others stated she has the same attributes as Abe did as a technician, plus even after the mind switches she still never abandoned Cinderella, so yeah, that's gotta be her
Mana had a hunch about Abe.
That is because abe is grave!
@@jasonpamatmat3797 really??
1:17 She was thinking " why she wants to.......oh i got it" it seems two geniuses think alike
Imagine volunteering to make yourself the first Mass Produced so you can serve humanity tirelessly without stop and in the end you're labeled as traitor.
At this point, this probably the first time she received a recognition.
Commander: Like Original Grave
Man knowing how abe created second generation goddess squad of which were considered failures and traitors of humanity
This complement from mana must have meant alot for her
To have at least contributed something good and not filled with bad memories
Grave (with these outfit): By Mana, I'm going back to the battlefield
Mana: Not dressed like that, you aren't young lady!
Grave (with playable outfit & face reveal and show her with her 999.999.999+ aura): Better?
Mana (with sparkling eyes while being amazed): *Yas bitch slay!!!*
i kinda like this older looks of her. looks cooler if you ask me
Don't forget her tomboy energy 👩💪⛓️⚰️
I wonder how Abe look so tall and muscular than her original body, maybe she switch to another body or she got upgrade on her own 🤔?
she reached puberty
don't nikkes kinda of look like they do cause they envision their perfect self? considering that new models can't actually grow muscle mass like old ones i think that's the case, her perception of herself changed over a hundred years, which represented in a new body
Old Nikke Models can actually train their bodies like regular humans to gain muscle this was revealed in on of the Outpost stories Involving Romani and Laplace as Romani revealed to Laplace that she can't grow muscles or get stronger via conventional training as she is a newer model of Nikke so Grave/Abe definitely gained that physique via training and carrying around heavy stuff like the coffin for Cinderella for years and years.
what I do find weird is Abe has a Thiccer body type than the regular Product 23 like Pinne and she's a mass produced Nikke so they should look the same at the start but Abe is noticeably thiccer my only theory is maybe Product 23s have that body type but is hidden due to the armor around them like what D does or Abe is the original Product 23 and the rest of the Product 23s are modeled after her but was streamed lined.
Mana already told shikikum that grave body is 100 years old and it's mass produced nikke
@@HaiseKuromeruMMD nikke could get a mind switch if they if they change parts too much or too often, in goddess squat only Rapunzel who has yet to get a mind switch, because she sacrifices her memory every year to maintain her old memory of all the goddess squat member, she also can maintain her own body since she has healing ability, so she doesn't need to change parts as often as other member..
it really is amazing how Grave/Abe also didn't get a mind switch after all those years, and sad because she has to endure all those memory by herself...
Grave: Laying the foundation? I was there when it was written.
Mana: ........... Alright grandma, it's time to bed
Mana is the GoAT
Wait... Mana is Nikke too?
Just like Abe-Grave?
Umm, yeah. Mana is a NIKKE too.
Always have been
Mana best girl, change my mind
We all be praising Mana now but remember she's MMR, A Research team under Missilis XD All in all, Syuen and Jien will get whiff of all this.
Remember that Syuen has to behave herself unless she wants to be “recruited” to the Commander’s team. I know Enik said she wouldn’t be able to do that until she found a replacement CEO for Missilis, but she’s had plenty of time to do so…
Mana tried to teach her Grand-Grand-Grand-Grandmommy how to suck eggs
so,confirmed mana is a nikke too? (i used to think she was human)
Yes, she's a NIKKE, like her partner in M.M.R. Ether.
She's been a Nikke forever. It's very understandable how people wouldn't know though
I really wish for an Alter Grave or Skin that makes her remember her past
Has anyone else noticed that Abe kind of looks like Product 23
Is this from the new campaign chapters cuz holy hell doesn’t that mean they are in the ark?
Its the reclamation site on the surface
@ but from the campaign right?
@@jorgequintero8141 yup
@@jorgequintero8141Basically, this is from Chapter 33. So yeah, this is from new campaign Chapter.
Mana playeable when?
Well, a lot of people already asked for that. Too bad it seems for the next one after this 2nd Anniv, it will be Flora. But yeah, let's wait and see.
why do you want technicians to shoot
waiting for mana banner, maybe she's a support or defender, I'll pull for her banner if release
Cinderella core one or grave?
@@skully2860 Grave
Hahaha nice i am first...wait am i ?? Nvm