I had the distinct pleasure of seeing Mr. Koons give a talk at MICA while I was studying there... It was just amazing watching the mindless sputum dribbling out of his mouth as he attempted to discuss his work... and then the deer-in-headlights look on his face when the students began tearing him apart with questions about his work and the bullshit he stands for.
Not true, he has received high honors and awards for his drawings and paintings in the past. Listen to what he says. Not always right away dismiss something.
He is an artist, he maybe a bad artist (I used to hate his work with a passion but over time I have come to appreciate certain parts of his ouvre, like the steel sculptures) but if Duchamp is an artist then so is Koons.
Kevin Agee Right, but the actors get just as much, if not more praise for their work as the director. Here the people making this are not going to be known by the majority of the people who experience this art. So your comparison fails to answer Ed's concern. There's no way around it. This may be acceptable in certain high society art circles but to the average person in public this is a sham and will never truly reach them.
No way around it? Koons is the artist, there is a long history of studios like this where the artist supervises the production of the artwork. That's one way around it.
Ed Tillman: ...kinda like Bob Vila on his "This Old House" show where he'd just walk around talking to people who are actually doing the work but not do any of it himself.
Thank you. Much like Warhol, Jeff is an orchestrator of huge ideas about space, color, kinetics, time, composition etc.. You cant do grand things (scale and concept wise) by yourself. Thanks for being sharp enough to notice that.
Koons is going down in history as one of the greatest artists period.like it or not. he sells at the highest prices, and gets his name and mug in the books. whoever can do that for the longest amount of time wins. picasso is the most referenced artist in books...and therefore is the most recognized, known, and important. more than art, this guy has mastered marketing and image.
Well said my friend. MY jury is out on Koons as a true artist. I guess he is by definition but he frustrates me. Overall, I love what he does I guess because it is conceived, composited, and ultimately cretated from his mind if not his direct hand. I prefer that someone's hands touch something they call artWORK. The definition of art has been defined by the individual, whether we agree with it or not.
The workers perform similar tasks to a factory worker, and are most likely getting more pay. Personally I think it's really interesting to see what an artist (especially of Koons calibre) can do with practically unlimited money.
LUNDI 25 SEPTEMBRE 2017 - MONSIEUR MARCEL DUCHAMP - DADA - POP - RICHARD HAMILTON - ANDY WARHOL - ROY LICHTENSTEIN - ROBERT RAUSCHENBERG - RICHARD PRINCE - CLAES OLDENBURG - DONALD JUDD - JOSEPH KOSUTH - DANIEL BUREN - GUNTHER VON HAGENS - DAMIEN HIRST - JEFF KOONS
There we have it people, mr Koons has found the meaning of art! "A vehicle of acceptance." Why on earth have people been debating this topic for so long when they could have simply asked Jeff Koons? Jeez...
@CatZula Yes, they did. Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Rembrandt, Carravaggio, Rodin,... Yes, they did. There were a few, and I mean a few, that did not but you could count them on one or two hands. It is more than safe to say that "the masters" used, exclusively, assistants and apprentices. Look them up and stop embarrassing yourself on here.
Koons has a history with LACMA director. Deitch helped him out in years past with those gawd awful chrome "balloon" sculptures. It is no surprise the two have buddied up again...more than anything these works point to the nauseating politics behind major American art institutions
Yes. I see exactly and your right. I think the novelty and glamour wears off quickly. Actually a nightmare to live that type of existance. Thanks for your intelligence.
It is astounding that such a giant of the artworld can so disconnected with the society in which he lives and thrives so very well. It seems very wrong that someone so handsoff, irrelevant, vacuous and inarticulate has been allowed to rise to such heights. Shame on the art establishment.
I truly believe and have good reason to believe that it is an inside trading secret society kind of deal. Not sure about this case in particular but high art in general. Or in other words, expensive art.
I love him being a perfectionist, his works are impeccable sublime. Perfect reflections, inapprehansible amenity, perfect illusion. Would like to have him pay a visit to our studio. :)
Envious are we? Dont rip a guy for loving what he does and getting paid millions of dollars to do it. Marcel Duchamp once said "The artist of the future will merely point at what he has done and say its art, and it will be art. He will no longer have to wait on the judgement of others to confirm his life's work and passion." Think about that.
It's called Conceptualism, that means that everything is fair game and can be interpretated as art. You obviously don't understand art or the history of art...do you.
He does turn out a very high quality product and that you can't deny. As far as him not doing the work you must be unfamiliar with art history as many famous artists use helpers who did everything from mix paint or carve the rough fiqure of a sculpture especially if they do large works or have many projects going. An example would be the sculptor who did the Statue of Liberty of course he was not going to do all the work himself.
Who has a non meaning full comment on this? just me? aight, i cant be the only one using this for a middle school project..right? damn my spelling sucks
***** He does turn out a very high quality product and that you can't deny. As far as him not doing the work you must be unfamiliar with art history as many famous artists use helpers who did everything from mix paint or carve the rough fiqure of a sculpture especially if they do large works or have many projects going. An example would be the sculptor who did the Statue of Liberty of course he was not going to do all the work himself.
This train piece infuriates me. The LACMA pitched tens of millions of dollars (I cant remember, it was either 10 or 40 mill) to buy/install the piece. And for what? The public either doesnt understand it, or hates it. Can you imagine what all the young, aspiring artists struggling in this economy could have done with some of that money? All the great, new art that could be made if LACMA invested that 10 million into a generation who actually needs the money? These institutions are clueless.
Love this video. Also love all the haters. Why tf does this guy bother you so much? No really, trace back your questions and realize the source of it all.
This is minimising the impact he has on the culture. An artist who has been working at his or her own art for years, will understand what one needs to go through to get to true freedom of expression. He is inspiring, at least for the ones that really understand what this is about. People use art and culture to nurture their humanity.
Thank you for understanding, I begin to feel it's not that much FUN being an xxx actor, it's like calling an escort home and worse - with no privacy !!! kind of mechanic, don't you think ?stinkriverstudios ?
lol why all the hating? Im sure he wouldnt give two shits what anyone thinks, i would definately like to see his bank account, and most of his work I think is really good.
He's a hack, and if my father bankrolled my 'visions'. If I 'tell you' what I envision, then you do the drawings, and those drawings go into a factory and the factory makes the work. Then ships it back to me, I put it on a pedestal and say…"I am an artist, this is MY art?" "Speak softly and carry a big check book" He is an idiot magnet, and I suppose I should be grateful, that he pools a certain…mmm, dare I say..eliminate in the art world. I am grateful for the removal of these art-sheep. He knows it's a shame, he's demeanor is a shame, it's all thought out and part of his act. But go ahead, and line up and eew and ahh at super sized, 99cent store toys.
all this guy does is take other peoples' images and mash them together. uncreative, unoriginal and talentless. how does he not get sued by these properties?
I had the distinct pleasure of seeing Mr. Koons give a talk at MICA while I was studying there... It was just amazing watching the mindless sputum dribbling out of his mouth as he attempted to discuss his work... and then the deer-in-headlights look on his face when the students began tearing him apart with questions about his work and the bullshit he stands for.
He doesn't even make them with his own hands. He's the DJ Khaled of Art.
Lol
I don't like Koon's art at all, but I can say that in Renaissance times there were many factories like these making sculptures and paintings
Koons isn't an artist, he just a salesman.
Not true, he has received high honors and awards for his drawings and paintings in the past. Listen to what he says. Not always right away dismiss something.
@@nicolareddwoodd4681 His work is just pure shit. Selling for millions of dollars, he's a hack.
He is an artist, he maybe a bad artist (I used to hate his work with a passion but over time I have come to appreciate certain parts of his ouvre, like the steel sculptures) but if Duchamp is an artist then so is Koons.
The people working for him are the Artists he is just someone...
I have seen some of Koon's work in person and I find them mesmerising.
Hahaha
@@jscomp9529 a lot can happen in 7 years. i still agree with my earlier statement, but for a totally different reason
@@7kurisu he and his work is disgusting rubbish.
@@7kurisu Actually you are right, except that you find mesmerizing the work that his employees made. Koons did not make it.
@@customlovestudio232i 100% agree. Koons is a capitalist exploiter not really an artist
So telling, Mr. Koons spends the whole video talking about making his art, while other people are in the background actually making it.
it's like directing a movie. think of it that way
Kevin Agee Right, but the actors get just as much, if not more praise for their work as the director. Here the people making this are not going to be known by the majority of the people who experience this art. So your comparison fails to answer Ed's concern. There's no way around it. This may be acceptable in certain high society art circles but to the average person in public this is a sham and will never truly reach them.
No way around it? Koons is the artist, there is a long history of studios like this where the artist supervises the production of the artwork. That's one way around it.
Ed Tillman: ...kinda like Bob Vila on his "This Old House" show where he'd just walk around talking to people who are actually doing the work but not do any of it himself.
@@kevinagee111 then hes not an artist hes an art director, just like spielberg is not called an actor
Thank you. Much like Warhol, Jeff is an orchestrator of huge ideas about space, color, kinetics, time, composition etc..
You cant do grand things (scale and concept wise) by yourself. Thanks for being sharp enough to notice that.
All the marketing in the world won't change lead into gold, or a hustler into a genius.
Koons is going down in history as one of the greatest artists period.like it or not. he sells at the highest prices, and gets his name and mug in the books. whoever can do that for the longest amount of time wins. picasso is the most referenced artist in books...and therefore is the most recognized, known, and important. more than art, this guy has mastered marketing and image.
He is going down in history as a good marketing sales straight white man. No ones thinks he is a good artist.
'Koons is a vehicle of B.S.'
Well said my friend. MY jury is out on Koons as a true artist. I guess he is by definition but he frustrates me. Overall, I love what he does I guess because it is conceived, composited, and ultimately cretated from his mind if not his direct hand. I prefer that someone's hands touch something they call artWORK. The definition of art has been defined by the individual, whether we agree with it or not.
something sinister behind that gigantic smile
a creative, competent and intelligent man, that can bring his art to fruition.
I never noticed this before.... he talks and acts just like a fundamentalist televangelist or cult leader.
yes that’s part of his art
I will always like Jeff Koons.
The workers perform similar tasks to a factory worker, and are most likely getting more pay. Personally I think it's really interesting to see what an artist (especially of Koons calibre) can do with practically unlimited money.
LUNDI 25 SEPTEMBRE 2017 - MONSIEUR MARCEL DUCHAMP - DADA - POP - RICHARD HAMILTON - ANDY WARHOL - ROY LICHTENSTEIN - ROBERT RAUSCHENBERG - RICHARD PRINCE - CLAES OLDENBURG - DONALD JUDD - JOSEPH KOSUTH - DANIEL BUREN - GUNTHER VON HAGENS - DAMIEN HIRST - JEFF KOONS
he doesnt even do anything but boss ppl around he's not an artist, he's a manager, the real artists are the assistants
There we have it people, mr Koons has found the meaning of art!
"A vehicle of acceptance."
Why on earth have people been debating this topic for so long when they could have simply asked Jeff Koons? Jeez...
@CatZula Yes, they did. Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Rembrandt, Carravaggio, Rodin,... Yes, they did. There were a few, and I mean a few, that did not but you could count them on one or two hands. It is more than safe to say that "the masters" used, exclusively, assistants and apprentices. Look them up and stop embarrassing yourself on here.
He should have a big sign on his studio... "Welcome to the Money Factory"
Koons has a history with LACMA director. Deitch helped him out in years past with those gawd awful chrome "balloon" sculptures. It is no surprise the two have buddied up again...more than anything these works point to the nauseating politics behind major American art institutions
He said his Play Doh sculpture was “very Freudian” and “had the fullness of the 20th Century”
This is very interesting. Leading up to his recent masterclass video perhaps
Mr. KOON I am admire of your art. People like you make life richer thanks for all your work
Yes. I see exactly and your right. I think the novelty and glamour wears off quickly. Actually a nightmare to live that type of existance. Thanks for your intelligence.
Thank you.
Traducción porfavor !!!
the train was kinda cool but it sucks those people have to be in that building. Going to get the colorful lung from all that paint.
I would be super interested to know how his workers are all these years later....
You had me at “secretions”! plenty of those on display!!
yes. point well made my friend.
He is just a businessman, with slaves under his feet. he don't want coworkers or helpers for HIS work, he want painters and slaves.
A second hand car salesman made good. The art world’s biggest joker in the pack.
It is astounding that such a giant of the artworld can so disconnected with the society in which he lives and thrives so very well. It seems very wrong that someone so handsoff, irrelevant, vacuous and inarticulate has been allowed to rise to such heights. Shame on the art establishment.
What a horrid celebration of kitsch, that should be the title of his exhibition.
The perfect encapsulation of the vacuous Neo- Liberal artist.
Not in the slightest, his work is lovely ...
nonsense
for as succesful as he is at least he should make his own pieces
I truly believe and have good reason to believe that it is an inside trading secret society kind of deal. Not sure about this case in particular but high art in general. Or in other words, expensive art.
I love him being a perfectionist, his works are impeccable sublime. Perfect reflections, inapprehansible amenity, perfect illusion.
Would like to have him pay a visit to our studio. :)
Envious are we? Dont rip a guy for loving what he does and getting paid millions of dollars to do it. Marcel Duchamp once said "The artist of the future will merely point at what he has done and say its art, and it will be art. He will no longer have to wait on the judgement of others to confirm his life's work and passion."
Think about that.
It's called Conceptualism, that means that everything is fair game and can be interpretated as art. You obviously don't understand art or the history of art...do you.
this is jeff koons, are you dumb?
Yeah,he's cute.
You can tel he does not allow anyone to talk or look at him 😂
Koons is not an artist. He's an industrial designer.
I really wish this pretentious crook gets exposed someday
Yea. You ara an inflatable water toy cast in human flesh. Incredible.
Koons industrial fabric
He's great...more power too him!
Some Interesting Art There
stinkriverstudios, I fully understand your point, never expect from an xxx star(Cicciolina) to have a fair character !!!
He does turn out a very high quality product and that you can't deny.
As far as him not doing the work you must be unfamiliar with art history as many famous artists use helpers who did everything from mix paint or carve the rough fiqure of a sculpture especially if they do large works or have many projects going.
An example would be the sculptor who did the Statue of Liberty of course he was not going to do all the work himself.
few are as loathed as he in the real art world
@Estragon17 he does!
who this? and why is he in Tate? I tought you have to be artist to exibit in Tate...
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I'm a bit apprehensive of those artists who pay others to employ "their" specific ideas and subsequently claim them as their own.
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I wonder how much of his narcissism is for the cameras.
The "we" is never "we", Jeff koon is so overestimate.
Who has a non meaning full comment on this? just me? aight, i cant be the only one using this for a middle school project..right? damn my spelling sucks
strip mall of the art world.
*****
He does turn out a very high quality product and that you can't deny.
As far as him not doing the work you must be unfamiliar with art history as many famous artists use helpers who did everything from mix paint or carve the rough fiqure of a sculpture especially if they do large works or have many projects going.
An example would be the sculptor who did the Statue of Liberty of course he was not going to do all the work himself.
This train piece infuriates me. The LACMA pitched tens of millions of dollars (I cant remember, it was either 10 or 40 mill) to buy/install the piece. And for what? The public either doesnt understand it, or hates it.
Can you imagine what all the young, aspiring artists struggling in this economy could have done with some of that money? All the great, new art that could be made if LACMA invested that 10 million into a generation who actually needs the money?
These institutions are clueless.
That's not an artist; that's a CEO.
Hilarious
He's not a real artist. He's a real crook. The man was rich in selling garbage.
Love this video. Also love all the haters. Why tf does this guy bother you so much? No really, trace back your questions and realize the source of it all.
This is minimising the impact he has on the culture. An artist who has been working at his or her own art for years, will understand what one needs to go through to get to true freedom of expression. He is inspiring, at least for the ones that really understand what this is about.
People use art and culture to nurture their humanity.
Thank you for understanding, I begin to feel it's not that much FUN being an xxx actor, it's like calling an escort home and worse - with no privacy !!! kind of mechanic, don't you think ?stinkriverstudios ?
The original Mr. Brainwash.
willy wonka art factory
Go APU lolz
lol why all the hating? Im sure he wouldnt give two shits what anyone thinks, i would definately like to see his bank account, and most of his work I think is really good.
@Estragon17 just because he talks slow and gentle? get real.
Or just focus on Janet and Tyra... lol
Consumeristic Capitalistic Art, more like a vehicle of generating money.
I might add, Koons is a narcissist.
He's a hack, and if my father bankrolled my 'visions'. If I 'tell you' what I envision, then you do the drawings, and those drawings go into a factory and the factory makes the work. Then ships it back to me, I put it on a pedestal and say…"I am an artist, this is MY art?" "Speak softly and carry a big check book" He is an idiot magnet, and I suppose I should be grateful, that he pools a certain…mmm, dare I say..eliminate in the art world. I am grateful for the removal of these art-sheep. He knows it's a shame, he's demeanor is a shame, it's all thought out and part of his act. But go ahead, and line up and eew and ahh at super sized, 99cent store toys.
This is not art
all this guy does is take other peoples' images and mash them together. uncreative, unoriginal and talentless. how does he not get sued by these properties?
Oooooooooooh Shit! I'm outta of here.
He's an usurper, galleries that exhibit his work should be boycotted
He's no artist. Any person who has self-respect shouldn't work for him.
Utter bs. Money laundering scam
Disgusting. This is not art.
Acceptance of his copy cat BS :-D
No. No, No