The most promising idea for a stun setting isn't a dazzler though, instead it's a two stage energy weapon that uses ultraviolet lasers to set up short lived ionized gas trails that can then be used to deliver an electric shock. So it's like a taser without wires.
I don't really see the advantage. Seems like alot more trouble to make it work and a less effective delivery mechanism. Taser prongs can go through clothing and there seems like less of a chance of unusual effects sending the beams in unintended directions. I mean, some materials including some plasma can reflect even uv lasers and the electricity will be able to follow the reflected path as well.
Saying that laser weapons have effectively unlimited ammo as long as they have a supply of energy, is like saying conventional guns have effectively unlimited ammo provided they have a supply of bullets.
Very true, laser weapons to shoot down missiles are mounted on ships, because the generator to provide the energy is too big to mount on a truck or tank. They basically build a ship around the weapon.
There’s also the problem of cooling, you can imagine just a few shots would heat the lenses and other assemblies to white-hot temperatures, so you need some sort of elaborate cooling or massive heat sinks and heat pumps (or big tank of liquid nitrogen) to cart around as well.
@@MichaelEilers So assuming we can make portable lasers in the near future its likely man portable ones would be what? One time fired weapons that has a single use battery and possible destruction of the lens used?
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent like the video says the current lasers need an entire nuclear destroyer or big field deployed truck to work. It would need a huge leap forward in battery technology, like an entire power plant in your hand.
@@MichaelEilers Not that far fetched given how in the last 70 years computers went from machines the size of rooms into literally your phone and or watch. I would imagine battery tech would improve as well and has.
People Mist, or perhaps Mist People is either a great name for a punk band, or a horror story waiting to be written. As always, great writing Kevin. (And let's not forget Simon's ego; good reading Simon).
@@GameHammerCG "Okay, Gordon Ramsey says 'Set phaser to "marinate" and apply to target for 1 minute. Then set phaser to "roast" for 30 minutes, turning target every 5 minutes to ensure even cooking."
Phaser being a combination/acronym of "Phased Energy Rectification" was superseded by ST: Enterprise. They're now seemingly meant to be a combination of the Phase Modulated Weapons of Humans (seemingly a form of plasma weapon) and the Laser-based directed energy weapons of other members of the Federation, though they actually work in the same way as always.
It's been sometime since I've rewatched TNG and what not... but didn't they mention that disruptors are way more gruesome as they are designed not only to kill and destroy; but also make it hurt the whole time. Phasers on kill and vaporise are supposed to be more "humane."
There's nothing humane about any weapon that can kill you just levels of pain and torture you experience before actually dying. Unless a weapon can put you into a state of deep sleep and it then in essence shuts off your entire nervous system like turning off permanently the energy to the electrical wiring to a room it wouldn't be humane in the least imo. As they say the best way to die is while you sleep because you simply never wake up. Any other way you'll experience varying degrees of pain and torture from said pain until you'd actually die.
@@RCAvhstapeIve been terrified about that possibility for a long time. I mean think about it. The evidence we have is that each time our brain changes state our experience changes as well. MAYBE that means once the brain stops so does experience...but an empirically equivalent (to the living) theory is that without a new brain state the last experience never ends.
If you've ever seen District 9 or The Watchmen, when hit with an energy weapon or Doctor Manhattan's energy bolts, people explode into a bloody mess. This is probably more realistic than people expect.
In reality, this isn't what would happen if someone was shot by a laser measuring in the 100s of kilowatts class. The laser would burn you and set your clothes on fire (depending on what you were wearing). It takes time for the laser to heat up the spot of the target it is aimed at. You would need a significantly more powerful laser to make someone explode from their bodies water content being heated so rapidly that it explosively expands into steam. The only way this could happen is the laser would have to be heating them up to millions of degrees Fahrenheit in an instant. The amount of power the laser would need to be able to do this is a laughably huge number. I remember watching a video on this from Austin on Shoddycast where he actually did the math. The dude is hilarious and I'd highly recommend his videos. Lasers are great, but I think particle beam weapons are the real future of deadly directed energy weapons. A particle beam essentially destroys the molecular bonds of whatever object or person it is firing at causing the materials own atomic matrix to destabilize. It would basically tear you apart at the molecular level. The crazy thing is, these weapons are very realistic, being heavily researched and I believe several prototypes already exist.
@@f3nixfire a particle beam has the downside of having a literal subatomic beam width and thus only affecting an incredibly small area. It would be like punching a hole in someone with the world’s thinnest pin. They might not ever notice and would only die of infection. A man stuck his head in a particle accelerator (I believe this was covered by Simon?) and the beam passed right through his head and he survived, and that was a megajoule class accelerator.
I agree about the laser, it needs time on target to heat it up and destroy it. It’s not one shot, the laser tracks and puts out a continuous beam or pulsed beam. The person would turn to carbon slowly and that’s a good insulator against heat, so it would do less damage over time with more energy redirected.
Well electric cars have a sound generator for safety reasons and Borla has created an "exhaust system" for the Mustang Mach E that can create the sound of different engines. So I'm sure there will be an aftermarket for custom lazer weapon sounds. lol
The nonlethal aspect of phasers has always intrigued me the most. It would revolutionize self-defense and policework if you could reliably stun a target, not be tethered to them, and have many shots at your disposal.
Plus civilian models might omit the “ kill” setting entirely as a civilian cc holder is not trying to kill somebody but simply end the fight. I had a road rage incident ( for which I’m serving 2 years probation for) had they had a device that would have dazzled or temporarily incapacitated the person attempting to corner me then I could have used it to end the fight and allowed me to leave. The fight was ended and I was able to flee without hurting anyone
I think what intrigued me was the phaser's Utility as a tool. I nearly always carry a pocket knife not because it is useful as a weapon, Most pocket knifes kind of suck as weapons, but because the are incredibly handy as tools in your daily life, how many times have you had to look for a knife to open a package. then we see the phaser, Which can be used as a saw, a carving laser, a cutting torch, or a tool to heat up rocks, I am sure it could even be used as an emergency medical tool as well such as to cauterize a wound or amputate a limb. I mean think about a firefighter being able to cut open a locked or metal door to get to people trapped on the side? or cut away parts of the bonded metal of an accident to get to people trapped inside.
@@matthewcaughey8898 interesting idea, but I do think it would limit its usefulness as a tool, and keep in mind a phaser even on its lowest setting at close range or with someone in poor health is not a non-lethal weapon. it is at best less than lethal as they can kill. But I do think those models will also be available.
@@BabyMakR less than lethal has there uses, there are more tasers and pepper spray or bear mace sold in the US than firearms, And I am sure that a setting that would let you cut some one out of a car wreck would be a lethal setting if you shoot some with it. are you saying you would not want it because it can kill?
There is a stun weapon which consists of two UV lasers which ionize the air and electrical charge can be sent down the two beams completing the circuit on the target. Its quite effective like a tazer but no wires with unlimited shots till the battery runs out. It would probably leave a couple nice round burns also but be quite effective even at quite a distance. I believe there are working prototypes of this as another engineer told me he was working on this tech. We are closer than you think.
In one episode of the original star trek a starship captain said he used up all their phaser's power and powerpacks against a horde of opponents so they were not unlimited.
pretty sure the image they used for the directed energy weapons heading was a 25mm airbursting grenade launcher prototype. That'll certainly direct some energy for you. He didn't mention a microwave beam intended to be used to disperse crowds by making them uncomfortably warm, and the sonic weapon used to defeat pirates by that cruise ship in '05 because they're not lasers or laser like but darn if I don't feel like they deserved honorable mention...
Per some fan-written techno-babble, The disintegration function of phasers was accomplished by disassembling the target at a sub-atomic level. So, a human doesn't produce a cloud of steam, but rather a bunch of harmless quarks which don't expand into a messy cloud. Maybe this is accomplished by neutralizing the gluons (gluons also being the source of much of our mass)?
I think focused sound waves at the resonant frequency of a human skull to crack it open at a distance will happen before phasers.. This probably exists already...
in an rpg i used to play , Rifts, they explained that lasers did make a pew sound, and had recoil, because they sold better. The logic was people belived the damage was greater when they heard the shot and felt the recoil, which is all generated by the gun seperately
Have you done a video on ion implanter’s? Ion in planners are primarily used in the manufacture of semi conductors these days - that’s computer chips… But from what I understand their origin was space-based particle accelerators to blow ICBMs out of the air. May be a cool video, especially the way you were riders, right! Great job!!
I prefer the term "disintegrated" to "vaporized." Whenever something or someone was disintegrated by a phaser, they were effectively converted to energy with near 100% efficiency, and that links the phaser technology to transporter technology. It's most... logical, don't you think? 🖖
I'll be that guy: light *is* subject to gravity. It changes the geodesic that it follows, and gravitational lensing is a thing. But you're probably not going to be firing around a black hole, so you're making a good approximation.
Dude, I will be referring your vid regarding the after-effects of "smoking" a person with phaser-fire from this point forward! To think, vaporizing a person with phaser-fire, would create an explosive event, would literally change the Star Trek combat arc tremendously !
The commentator's comment that a phaser set on stun would not hurt you is incorrect. The series has established that repeated phaser stun hits do cause injury. A specific instance would be the TNG episode "Samaritan Snare" where Lt. Laforge is shot multiple times with phasers on stun and seen having difficulty moving around afterwards. The Enterprise's doctor expressed concern that Laforge had been stunned several times.
Remember when Lasers were just limited to blacklight, smoke-filled, indoor maze? At least those Lasers came with an order of onion rings after the match.
@@rogerwilco5918 Huh? Are you not aware that he pointed a gun and pulled the trigger killing his employee irl? He interviewed saying he never pulled the trigger, which is a lie. I was making fun of that.
@@azchris1979 Why would an actor know anything about phasers *or* guns?? Did you know when actors play doctors on tv they're not actually doctors?? That's what you hire a professional for.. Would you trust an actor with your life?? Hell, I was a non-com in the army and we didn't even trust each other at a range. That's why we put guys in charge that know what they're doing to clear hot weapons and "rod them off the range".
The major hindrance i see for any sort of portable energy weapon is the energy source. Even as it stands our current battery technology is lagging behind almost all other tech
As Mythbusters showed, blaster pulses do not travel at the speed of light. In fact they seem slower than bullets. We will have food replicators before we have hand held phasers.
I recall seeing something on a large energy weapon the US government has on some of their ships, they also mentioned that handheld energy weapons are against the current geneva conventions so you'd pretty much have to rewrite war rules before even getting this far
Laser light may not make noise but the weapon would probably still make noise. Degaussers use electro magnets to wipe hard drives. Magnets are silent but the device charges up then releases a Hugh amount of current to create the field and then wipe the drive. That process creates a very loud pop noise. Something similar may happen with laser rifles
you put enough wattage into something and it will disintegrate, lol, try sticking your hand into the path of a plasma cutting torch and see what happens :)
In Wrath of Khan when Kirk shot the critter that crawled out of Chekov's ear it left a nasty stain on the deck, but when Terrel shot himself he just vanished. Should've left a big mess behind.
*not to mention that the amount of heat such a weapon would produce when discharged did not also instantly vaporize or carbonize the one using it...sorry my suspension of disbelief threshold also includes a very effective BS filter*
Just like the ADS ( Active Denial System) whether Microwave or Soundwave are already in service. Not to mention that Lazer Weapons are being installed on some U.S. NAVY SHIPS already. And being tested at like 100-300 MW ranges. Star Trek was innovative in bringing new Tech into being, the Communicator=Cell Phone, Pad=like I-pad or other Pads. Along with other Tech innovations ahead of their time. Even Nikola Tesla said that in the Future we would be able to Face communicate with others around the World with a Device held in our hands. Granted the Sonic Screwdriver is WAY out there but..... The Doctor himself even said that Time "is a weekly wobbly timey-wimey thing" quoting the 10th Doctor here, David Tennant. And as the Roman's said "Time Will Out", translating to basically Time Will Tell. And whom knows what the Undiscovered Country (Future) will bring. Here another quote this from Star Trek, when Chancellor Gorkon said it in the Movie.
Actually we have had laser like weapons sine the 1940s. My grandfather served in WW2 and he related to me a story that while he was in Europe he personally witnessed a demonstration of a very powerful laser like weapon that with one pulse a section of stone wall measuring 50 ft long by 10 ft high was reduced to dust in less than a second. I know it sounds unbelievable but my grandfather was know for his honesty and reliability with our community I have never doubted his story and neither has anyone else in our family.
Oof, one glaring correction I need to make thanks to an awkwardly worded sentence: Yes, the strong nuclear force absolutely exists. We've talked about it in several videos on this channel. However, magically striping away the strong nuclear force from matter is not a thing that exists. That's totally my bad for how I worded it.
Another plus to laser weapons is if used in urban combat other than setting fires potentially there could be less infrastructure damage than using bullets
The future of weapons is terrifying. But what I don't understand about Star Trek is replicators/transporters would be the most effective weapon ever invented and yet they are never used that way. Why shoot at an enemy when you could just rearrange their atoms into a sandwich?
When lightning strikes a tree, it vaporizes the water and sap inside which causes a violent explosion that can turn the entire tree into flaming splinters. Much like what a phaser would do to you!
Without the required pew pew sounds, the people will riot. Thankfully, energy weapons are effective against mobs. But eventually manufacturers will give into the madness and install speakers, as they did with electric cars that make vroom sounds to satisfy those with simple cravings.
Trouble with a laser rifle is that its effects would be absolutely horrific. On impact with any fleshy bit would actually boil away water and/or cause a small explosion.
The most ghastly futuristic handheld weapon I can think of is a Sandman’s pistol from Logan’s Run. IIRC it fired a phosphorus pellet through a water chamber fast enough to delay the reaction until it hit the target. Nasty that.
I have a feeling if any personal energy weapons like the phaser became readily available, Congress would probably restrict civilian models to stun setting only.
We have directed energy weapons, as for phasers, well you may want to invest in a lead apron. The phaser removes the attachment to the strong nuclear force, in other words whatever you are aiming at will just start irradiating everything around it.
Inevitability of laser and particle beam directed energy weapons is very real since more subtle use of such weapons is what should be considered such as how Keitaro Yoshihara of Riken and Casparian of Central Erupe have used high frequency laser optical traps to produce nimbus storm clouds or even an industrial process chemical reactor machine tools to churn out who knew weapons or someone trying to refuel spacecraft might redirect debris for a casual weapon.
The Star Trek Universe should absolutely write in the 1600x expansion effects of Vaporization... it would be a good plot deterrent against over-using the feature and modern CGI could handle it pretty well.
There was a DS9 episode set on a planet on the other side of the wormhole where people who were killed would come back to life but could never leave the planet afterwards without dying permanently. The inhabitants were engaged in constant warfare and had given up on energy weapons because they didn't do enough damage. They did gloss over what would happen to someone who was disintegrated by the weapon. I imagine there would be people in today's world who would prefer firearms to energy weapons because the energy weapon wouldn't be scary enough. The sound of gunfire would be part of the appeal for them.
Think I would want both. Traditional firearms don’t need to be charged or any special material (whatever fuel it would use), this would be an advantage when depleted. Also traditional firearms have a range limit where it nose dives into the ground or moves slow enough to be less lethal. A light gun or laser gun would go far longer making hunting challenging as I now have to know what’s behind my target all the way until the earth curves enough to put the “bullet” into space.
1 guy, JUST ONE...has ever stuck his head in an active particle accelerator, and the results were insane. It basically cut a very narrow 'beam' thru his brain. not a literal beam, but the area affected was very narrow and the tissue was instantly destroyed. ...It was only a couple seconds and he lived, albeit with some noticeable disabilities. So, mobile phaser may not be realistic in next century but a ship with a particle accelerator totally could be made.
Interesting note; in Roddenberry's original writers guide the Enterprise was originally launched with x-ray lasers and particle beams. phasers where an upgrade that permitted ftl combat.
@@JoeShmoism very interesting. Never read that. I'm forgetting the guy who initially pioneered the notion (I do believe it was a sci fi writer contemporary to Heinlein) but they brought the notion of a 2 part system 1) ground based high-energy laser beam (prob gotta be sustained petawatts or above) 2) the spacecraft with a 'semi-circle dish that could gimble (in place of main accelerating thruster nozzle) OR a large panel (I think gold or silver) very much like some flexible solar panels... In both cases the beam would hit the spacecraft giving it ability to slowly accelerate. There is a lot of particle physics involved, and the process is complex but basically you're bombarding a 'receiver' with the laser: akin to somebody throwing ping-pong balls at a large helium party balloon...Do so with enough, and you can 'slowly nudge it', do it with a ton and you can continually accelerate it via a billion nudges/sec. etc. There are arguments of which EM bandwidth it'd be most effective: but usually the 2 that are considered are Xray and High-energy Microwave. Depends on the max distance from ground to spacecraft, but the approach isn't too great probably past something like pluto, regardless of receiver size or initial energy at base station...due to things like beam spread/propagation. Still, conservative estimates put that we could get craft up to something in the 0.2-0.5c speed with this method. Right now we can't even get to 0.0001c Naturally, the issue is energy loss during maneuvers like an Oberth (banking/slingshotting off planet/moon)...bcuz you need to expend energy to excelerate out of the gravity well (thus gaining dV. The other MORE critical issue you'd have to solve is stopping: even if your destination is a star system you'd need either 1) another 'counter' beam station that hits your front and slows you down 2) a lot of precise orbital maneuvers and Aerobraking (brushing the top of the atmosphere to create drag and 'bleed off' your excel speed (dV)). This creates a crapton of heat stress though. and w/o fuel to counter it: its a "get it right 1st time, because no second change" type situation...which would be sketchy to say least. As far as safety in all this goes: Lead is still one of the best known materials (and easiest to manipulate) to absorb particles. So you just shield your craft in it (making it weigh a crapton, cuz it prob needs 1-2ft of it).
@@djdrack4681 it's one of many things they screwed up in the Enterprise series. As much as I enjoyed it. Again referencing the original writers guide, Earth's first contact with an alien race was with the Orions and contact was audio only. Zephram Cochran was a gold Orion who sent the plans for the warp drive to Earth via radio. He sent the plans to enable a face to face meeting. Also there were originally several colors of Orions. The greens were the slave class but I think the slavers were supposed to be red or gold. Some gold Orions could pass for Terran humans some could not.
Someone from 200 years ago would have difficulty predicting the technology that exists today. Who knows what will exist in another 200 years? There will probably be new inventions we haven't even thought of yet
First like! Wow Phasers! My fav thing of them in Star Trek has been the stun feature. That they can be nonlethal. In science fiction I have heard other names for them such as blasters and stunners.
Whether the weapon is lethal enough or not most likely will not stop arms researchers from trying to develop ever more powerful weapons. Our history shows that this is so. We seem to always be searching for more powerful ways to end one another. We are a most dangerous species.
Even watching Star Trek TNG as a kid I realized that phasers were getting a little out of hand. There was one episode (don't remember exactly which show it was) the phaser used had a remote sentry setting. At that point, why bother with being hand operated? Just add a anti-grav/impulse drive and give all the red shirts a personal protection drone.
although phasers can vaporize stuff if used in low power settings or shooting something with a bigger mass when its used in the show / movies at full power on people they are not vaporized they are deintegrated at the atomic level. but i do agree should be some kind of shockwave and or fireball when the water turns back to oxygen and hydrogen and ignites, not sure how noticeable it would look or feel in practice though if used at a distance on a target. you should definitely feel heat emanating from the target though if close enough.
Not "Vaporize". Probably what happened to my car antenna 📡 hit by lightning ⚡⚡💩...Which was very cooly and instantly "ionized" with a metallic screech...It happened so fast outside the windshield. It suddenly reminded me of the shootout in the TOS: Wrath of Khan....I think that's what they were going for.... 😆 😂.....
Just a thought, wouldn't it make sense to add the pew pew noise, so you can tell who miss fired their weapon into the back of the CO'S head during a live fir exercise?
A high-powered laser could kill people right now. The biggest challenge I see is energy storage. Gunpowder releases very large amounts of energy that we can mostly channel into a small projectile; what else can compare to that level of chemical energy in such a small package?
UN: Hey USA, how are you coming with that non-lethal Dazzler? US: Looks like we are going to have to cancel it. The temporary blindness we were hoping for might sometimes be permanent... UN: Yeah, that's too bad. So you better not use them. Back to Assault rifles and other projectile weapons then.. US: Yeah, that's for the best...
We will have hand held Gaus, or rail guns, before directed energy weapons. Even once we have the weapons, the energy storage will be the limiting factor.
I am 65 years old. When I was about 7 years old I saw a commercial for a kids laser pistol that was strong enouph to pop a balloon at about 10 to 15 feet. I saw it once and then never saw it again.
I realize Simon is much given to mild exaggeration on his topics, but, 3000MPH (or 4.4KFps) is faster than any rifle bullet I've heard of. Not even that new 'thingy' the US army was testing couple yrs ago did that. Now, that rail gun the US navy tinkered with was doing some real hypersonic velocities. Got to enjoy Simon's enthusiasm.
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The most promising idea for a stun setting isn't a dazzler though, instead it's a two stage energy weapon that uses ultraviolet lasers to set up short lived ionized gas trails that can then be used to deliver an electric shock. So it's like a taser without wires.
aka the electrolaser en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolaser
I thought this project died like 8 years ago has it picked up yet anyone ?
@Cannabis Dreams It does sound like something you could pick up at the local CS town.
That's how lighting forks form: ionized air. So someone would be able to protect themselves from that effect by just being grounded.
I don't really see the advantage. Seems like alot more trouble to make it work and a less effective delivery mechanism. Taser prongs can go through clothing and there seems like less of a chance of unusual effects sending the beams in unintended directions.
I mean, some materials including some plasma can reflect even uv lasers and the electricity will be able to follow the reflected path as well.
Saying that laser weapons have effectively unlimited ammo as long as they have a supply of energy, is like saying conventional guns have effectively unlimited ammo provided they have a supply of bullets.
Very true, laser weapons to shoot down missiles are mounted on ships, because the generator to provide the energy is too big to mount on a truck or tank. They basically build a ship around the weapon.
There’s also the problem of cooling, you can imagine just a few shots would heat the lenses and other assemblies to white-hot temperatures, so you need some sort of elaborate cooling or massive heat sinks and heat pumps (or big tank of liquid nitrogen) to cart around as well.
@@MichaelEilers So assuming we can make portable lasers in the near future its likely man portable ones would be what? One time fired weapons that has a single use battery and possible destruction of the lens used?
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent like the video says the current lasers need an entire nuclear destroyer or big field deployed truck to work. It would need a huge leap forward in battery technology, like an entire power plant in your hand.
@@MichaelEilers Not that far fetched given how in the last 70 years computers went from machines the size of rooms into literally your phone and or watch. I would imagine battery tech would improve as well and has.
People Mist, or perhaps Mist People is either a great name for a punk band, or a horror story waiting to be written. As always, great writing Kevin. (And let's not forget Simon's ego; good reading Simon).
Thanks!
Both epic band names!!!
I’m happy to not have the “vapourise a dude” function on a phaser if I can have the “heat up a rock so you don’t freeze to death” function instead.
That can also be used as a "heat up a dude until he cooks to death" function.
@@RCAvhstape Hmm… might come in useful, depending on how long you’re likely to be stranded…
@@GameHammerCG "Okay, Gordon Ramsey says 'Set phaser to "marinate" and apply to target for 1 minute. Then set phaser to "roast" for 30 minutes, turning target every 5 minutes to ensure even cooking."
Now using the US army as an example, the setting would not be Vaporize a dude, but more like just Vaporize, or Point toward enemy ONLY!!
Phaser being a combination/acronym of "Phased Energy Rectification" was superseded by ST: Enterprise.
They're now seemingly meant to be a combination of the Phase Modulated Weapons of Humans (seemingly a form of plasma weapon) and the Laser-based directed energy weapons of other members of the Federation, though they actually work in the same way as always.
So they're wakefield accelerators? I would honestly be interested to see if those could be weaponized.
It's been sometime since I've rewatched TNG and what not... but didn't they mention that disruptors are way more gruesome as they are designed not only to kill and destroy; but also make it hurt the whole time. Phasers on kill and vaporise are supposed to be more "humane."
In most cases being dead in Star Trek is a one way streak especially if your not friends with Q or wear a red shirt.
There's nothing humane about any weapon that can kill you just levels of pain and torture you experience before actually dying. Unless a weapon can put you into a state of deep sleep and it then in essence shuts off your entire nervous system like turning off permanently the energy to the electrical wiring to a room it wouldn't be humane in the least imo. As they say the best way to die is while you sleep because you simply never wake up. Any other way you'll experience varying degrees of pain and torture from said pain until you'd actually die.
@@Albert_Wesker_1969 Maybe when you die time slows down and stops at that last final moment, so you feel pain FOREVER. Just a thought.
@@RCAvhstapeIve been terrified about that possibility for a long time.
I mean think about it. The evidence we have is that each time our brain changes state our experience changes as well. MAYBE that means once the brain stops so does experience...but an empirically equivalent (to the living) theory is that without a new brain state the last experience never ends.
And I can't remember if that was all disruptors or specifically the ones the Klingons or someone else used.
"breathing in people mist" ..... now that's fuckin' metal
If you've ever seen District 9 or The Watchmen, when hit with an energy weapon or Doctor Manhattan's energy bolts, people explode into a bloody mess. This is probably more realistic than people expect.
*pretty much...a very nasty mess would result*
One would hope so.
In reality, this isn't what would happen if someone was shot by a laser measuring in the 100s of kilowatts class. The laser would burn you and set your clothes on fire (depending on what you were wearing).
It takes time for the laser to heat up the spot of the target it is aimed at. You would need a significantly more powerful laser to make someone explode from their bodies water content being heated so rapidly that it explosively expands into steam.
The only way this could happen is the laser would have to be heating them up to millions of degrees Fahrenheit in an instant. The amount of power the laser would need to be able to do this is a laughably huge number. I remember watching a video on this from Austin on Shoddycast where he actually did the math. The dude is hilarious and I'd highly recommend his videos.
Lasers are great, but I think particle beam weapons are the real future of deadly directed energy weapons. A particle beam essentially destroys the molecular bonds of whatever object or person it is firing at causing the materials own atomic matrix to destabilize. It would basically tear you apart at the molecular level. The crazy thing is, these weapons are very realistic, being heavily researched and I believe several prototypes already exist.
@@f3nixfire a particle beam has the downside of having a literal subatomic beam width and thus only affecting an incredibly small area. It would be like punching a hole in someone with the world’s thinnest pin. They might not ever notice and would only die of infection. A man stuck his head in a particle accelerator (I believe this was covered by Simon?) and the beam passed right through his head and he survived, and that was a megajoule class accelerator.
I agree about the laser, it needs time on target to heat it up and destroy it. It’s not one shot, the laser tracks and puts out a continuous beam or pulsed beam. The person would turn to carbon slowly and that’s a good insulator against heat, so it would do less damage over time with more energy redirected.
Well electric cars have a sound generator for safety reasons and Borla has created an "exhaust system" for the Mustang Mach E that can create the sound of different engines. So I'm sure there will be an aftermarket for custom lazer weapon sounds. lol
*but it's much more fun to make the sounds yourself by running around saying PewPewPew*
@@scottmantooth8785 rather than the weapon start to play the theme to Star Wars as it fires.
But is there a Jetsons car sound? That would be my go to.
Why
There’s a reason people buy silencers
The nonlethal aspect of phasers has always intrigued me the most. It would revolutionize self-defense and policework if you could reliably stun a target, not be tethered to them, and have many shots at your disposal.
Plus civilian models might omit the “ kill” setting entirely as a civilian cc holder is not trying to kill somebody but simply end the fight. I had a road rage incident ( for which I’m serving 2 years probation for) had they had a device that would have dazzled or temporarily incapacitated the person attempting to corner me then I could have used it to end the fight and allowed me to leave. The fight was ended and I was able to flee without hurting anyone
I think what intrigued me was the phaser's Utility as a tool. I nearly always carry a pocket knife not because it is useful as a weapon, Most pocket knifes kind of suck as weapons, but because the are incredibly handy as tools in your daily life, how many times have you had to look for a knife to open a package. then we see the phaser, Which can be used as a saw, a carving laser, a cutting torch, or a tool to heat up rocks, I am sure it could even be used as an emergency medical tool as well such as to cauterize a wound or amputate a limb. I mean think about a firefighter being able to cut open a locked or metal door to get to people trapped on the side? or cut away parts of the bonded metal of an accident to get to people trapped inside.
@@matthewcaughey8898 interesting idea, but I do think it would limit its usefulness as a tool, and keep in mind a phaser even on its lowest setting at close range or with someone in poor health is not a non-lethal weapon. it is at best less than lethal as they can kill. But I do think those models will also be available.
Except in America, it would be demanded that the non-lethal option was removed.
@@BabyMakR less than lethal has there uses, there are more tasers and pepper spray or bear mace sold in the US than firearms, And I am sure that a setting that would let you cut some one out of a car wreck would be a lethal setting if you shoot some with it. are you saying you would not want it because it can kill?
There is a stun weapon which consists of two UV lasers which ionize the air and electrical charge can be sent down the two beams completing the circuit on the target. Its quite effective like a tazer but no wires with unlimited shots till the battery runs out. It would probably leave a couple nice round burns also but be quite effective even at quite a distance. I believe there are working prototypes of this as another engineer told me he was working on this tech. We are closer than you think.
I now know to stand at least 50 meters away from my target.
Thank you for that handy tip.
I just want to ride my hoverboard while shooting my phaser rifle with lightsaber bayonet.
Breathing in people mist LMFAO! I almost fell off my couch 🤣
For what its worth i remember Buck Rodgers stating their weapons distrupted nervous systems
A shotgun will disrupt a nervous system, too! 🤯
imagine when a killer can utterly disintegrate their victim
Laser guns might not make noise,
but the person firing them is definitely going to say "pew pew" 😉👌🏽
In one episode of the original star trek a starship captain said he used up all their phaser's power and powerpacks against a horde of opponents so they were not unlimited.
pretty sure the image they used for the directed energy weapons heading was a 25mm airbursting grenade launcher prototype. That'll certainly direct some energy for you. He didn't mention a microwave beam intended to be used to disperse crowds by making them uncomfortably warm, and the sonic weapon used to defeat pirates by that cruise ship in '05 because they're not lasers or laser like but darn if I don't feel like they deserved honorable mention...
A Stargate weapons examination would be an interesting follow on subject...
Per some fan-written techno-babble,
The disintegration function of phasers was accomplished by disassembling the target at a sub-atomic level. So, a human doesn't produce a cloud of steam, but rather a bunch of harmless quarks which don't expand into a messy cloud.
Maybe this is accomplished by neutralizing the gluons (gluons also being the source of much of our mass)?
i think the part with the Lasers from Akira is a really good depiction of how they might work.
A beam of light that can travel through glass?!?! Outrageous!!!
Oh c'mon, I've been dreaming of this since was 10yo! "How dare you??? You've stolen my childhood!!!"
Interesting topic you presented and keep it up!
I think focused sound waves at the resonant frequency of a human skull to crack it open at a distance will happen before phasers.. This probably exists already...
Considering a phaser is just an extremely sophisticated laser and we use lasers to guide missiles, bombs, and bullets we technically already are.
Can you imagine the gun control when a real phaser shows up. No bodies.
One step closer to the invention of the trusty lasgun.
Never underestimate the power of a board with a nail in it. You do that and you invite destruction onto yourself and your whole kingdom
One big advantage of laser weapon is almost zero recoil. That’ll improve accuracy dramatically.
Pew Pew noise should be mandatory on all laser weapons.
in an rpg i used to play , Rifts, they explained that lasers did make a pew sound, and had recoil, because they sold better. The logic was people belived the damage was greater when they heard the shot and felt the recoil, which is all generated by the gun seperately
Have you done a video on ion implanter’s?
Ion in planners are primarily used in the manufacture of semi conductors these days - that’s computer chips… But from what I understand their origin was space-based particle accelerators to blow ICBMs out of the air.
May be a cool video, especially the way you were riders, right! Great job!!
I prefer the term "disintegrated" to "vaporized." Whenever something or someone was disintegrated by a phaser, they were effectively converted to energy with near 100% efficiency, and that links the phaser technology to transporter technology. It's most... logical, don't you think? 🖖
I'll be that guy: light *is* subject to gravity. It changes the geodesic that it follows, and gravitational lensing is a thing. But you're probably not going to be firing around a black hole, so you're making a good approximation.
Its cool that the first gunpowder weapon is a canon from the 12 th century and today we have laser weapons on truck's (lasercanons)
Dude, I will be referring your vid regarding the after-effects of "smoking" a person with phaser-fire from this point forward! To think, vaporizing a person with phaser-fire, would create an explosive event, would literally change the Star Trek combat arc tremendously !
"Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines!"
The commentator's comment that a phaser set on stun would not hurt you is incorrect. The series has established that repeated phaser stun hits do cause injury. A specific instance would be the TNG episode "Samaritan Snare" where Lt. Laforge is shot multiple times with phasers on stun and seen having difficulty moving around afterwards. The Enterprise's doctor expressed concern that Laforge had been stunned several times.
Remember when Lasers were just limited to blacklight, smoke-filled, indoor maze? At least those Lasers came with an order of onion rings after the match.
Alec Baldwin: "I would never set a phaser to kill...never ever."
What would Alec Baldwin know about phasers, he's an actor??
I recommend you get a professional to help him.
@@rogerwilco5918 Huh? Are you not aware that he pointed a gun and pulled the trigger killing his employee irl? He interviewed saying he never pulled the trigger, which is a lie. I was making fun of that.
@@azchris1979 Why would an actor know anything about phasers *or* guns?? Did you know when actors play doctors on tv they're not actually doctors?? That's what you hire a professional for..
Would you trust an actor with your life?? Hell, I was a non-com in the army and we didn't even trust each other at a range. That's why we put guys in charge that know what they're doing to clear hot weapons and "rod them off the range".
"5Mj is a crazy amount of energy for a hand weapon."
The canonical output for a laser rifle in Warhammer 40k is 40Mj. Pew pew.
The major hindrance i see for any sort of portable energy weapon is the energy source. Even as it stands our current battery technology is lagging behind almost all other tech
Simon is a madman! Another channel which I just found! 🤯
As Mythbusters showed, blaster pulses do not travel at the speed of light. In fact they seem slower than bullets.
We will have food replicators before we have hand held phasers.
What's a "blaster pulse"?
*food replicators that could be programmed to replicate organic explosives of hyper contagions...lovely, all very lovely*
Star wars blasters and star trek phasers are very different technologies
A blaster isn't a laser though. A blaster spits out a ball of plasma which has mass as opposed to a laser which is EM radiation.
@@Andrew-zq3ip Oh, so they tested those on Mythbusters then? Cool, where can I get a blaster?
The future is less Star Trek Phasers and more 40k Lasguns
I recall seeing something on a large energy weapon the US government has on some of their ships, they also mentioned that handheld energy weapons are against the current geneva conventions so you'd pretty much have to rewrite war rules before even getting this far
Laser light may not make noise but the weapon would probably still make noise.
Degaussers use electro magnets to wipe hard drives. Magnets are silent but the device charges up then releases a Hugh amount of current to create the field and then wipe the drive. That process creates a very loud pop noise. Something similar may happen with laser rifles
I'm stunned I thought killing was just a human phase
The most absurd thing with Star Trek phasers was their supposed capacity to vaporise any given target and without leaving any trace.
At the very least there would be a pile of ash left over. I'm thinking like in fallout lol
you put enough wattage into something and it will disintegrate, lol, try sticking your hand into the path of a plasma cutting torch and see what happens :)
In Wrath of Khan when Kirk shot the critter that crawled out of Chekov's ear it left a nasty stain on the deck, but when Terrel shot himself he just vanished. Should've left a big mess behind.
I like the energy weapon effect from District 9 where the people just explode in a bloody mist with chunks flying away in every direction lol.
*not to mention that the amount of heat such a weapon would produce when discharged did not also instantly vaporize or carbonize the one using it...sorry my suspension of disbelief threshold also includes a very effective BS filter*
Just like the ADS ( Active Denial System) whether Microwave or Soundwave are already in service. Not to mention that Lazer Weapons are being installed on some U.S. NAVY SHIPS already. And being tested at like 100-300 MW ranges.
Star Trek was innovative in bringing new Tech into being, the Communicator=Cell Phone, Pad=like I-pad or other Pads. Along with other Tech innovations ahead of their time.
Even Nikola Tesla said that in the Future we would be able to Face communicate with others around the World with a Device held in our hands.
Granted the Sonic Screwdriver is WAY out there but.....
The Doctor himself even said that Time "is a weekly wobbly timey-wimey thing" quoting the 10th Doctor here, David Tennant.
And as the Roman's said "Time Will Out", translating to basically Time Will Tell.
And whom knows what the Undiscovered Country (Future) will bring. Here another quote this from Star Trek, when Chancellor Gorkon said it in the Movie.
He don't hate on the board with a nail in it!
I want Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.
In addition to being silent and possibly invisible, there'd be no recoil, making them more accurate as well.
And Gas taking up more space than the liquid is also how steam engines work!
Actually we have had laser like weapons sine the 1940s. My grandfather served in WW2 and he related to me a story that while he was in Europe he personally witnessed a demonstration of a very powerful laser like weapon that with one pulse a section of stone wall measuring 50 ft long by 10 ft high was reduced to dust in less than a second. I know it sounds unbelievable but my grandfather was know for his honesty and reliability with our community I have never doubted his story and neither has anyone else in our family.
Oof, one glaring correction I need to make thanks to an awkwardly worded sentence:
Yes, the strong nuclear force absolutely exists. We've talked about it in several videos on this channel. However, magically striping away the strong nuclear force from matter is not a thing that exists. That's totally my bad for how I worded it.
I don't want to live in a future where the ray guns don't go 'pew pew.'
Another plus to laser weapons is if used in urban combat other than setting fires potentially there could be less infrastructure damage than using bullets
5-10 megajoules puts the phaser in the realm of the WW2 German 88mm and 128mm antitank guns.
Minor correction: the fastest bullet in the world from a man portable weapon, can achieve at or around 4,100 feet per second. .220 Swift
Vaporizing sounds almost like an explosion.
It's not the technology it's the battery technology that's holding us back
The future of weapons is terrifying. But what I don't understand about Star Trek is replicators/transporters would be the most effective weapon ever invented and yet they are never used that way. Why shoot at an enemy when you could just rearrange their atoms into a sandwich?
soon there will be a National Ray-Gun Association 😅
When lightning strikes a tree, it vaporizes the water and sap inside which causes a violent explosion that can turn the entire tree into flaming splinters.
Much like what a phaser would do to you!
Without the required pew pew sounds, the people will riot.
Thankfully, energy weapons are effective against mobs.
But eventually manufacturers will give into the madness and install speakers,
as they did with electric cars that make vroom sounds to satisfy those with simple cravings.
Trouble with a laser rifle is that its effects would be absolutely horrific. On impact with any fleshy bit would actually boil away water and/or cause a small explosion.
I like how you treat the claims made by countries like China and Iran equally as credible as those made by religions
The most ghastly futuristic handheld weapon I can think of is a Sandman’s pistol from Logan’s Run. IIRC it fired a phosphorus pellet through a water chamber fast enough to delay the reaction until it hit the target. Nasty that.
To answer the question "How Soon Until We're Killing Each Other With Phasers?", not soon enough! But better yet, give us Klingon Disrupters instead.
I have a feeling if any personal energy weapons like the phaser became readily available, Congress would probably restrict civilian models to stun setting only.
If even allowed one
We have directed energy weapons, as for phasers, well you may want to invest in a lead apron. The phaser removes the attachment to the strong nuclear force, in other words whatever you are aiming at will just start irradiating everything around it.
Laser rifle accuracy in the close vicinity of a black hole is doubtful, however. Gravity does have at least a small effect on light.
Inevitability of laser and particle beam directed energy weapons is very real since more subtle use of such weapons is what should be considered such as how Keitaro Yoshihara of Riken and Casparian of Central Erupe have used high frequency laser optical traps to produce nimbus storm clouds or even an industrial process chemical reactor machine tools to churn out who knew weapons or someone trying to refuel spacecraft might redirect debris for a casual weapon.
The Star Trek Universe should absolutely write in the 1600x expansion effects of Vaporization... it would be a good plot deterrent against over-using the feature and modern CGI could handle it pretty well.
"Set phasers to fun or death"
Strong Nuclear Force does exist...they call it the Strong Interaction nowadays, but that actually is a thing.
Their proper name would be 'disrupters', as they disrupt the cohesive 'strong force' bond between the atomic particles.
There was a DS9 episode set on a planet on the other side of the wormhole where people who were killed would come back to life but could never leave the planet afterwards without dying permanently. The inhabitants were engaged in constant warfare and had given up on energy weapons because they didn't do enough damage. They did gloss over what would happen to someone who was disintegrated by the weapon. I imagine there would be people in today's world who would prefer firearms to energy weapons because the energy weapon wouldn't be scary enough. The sound of gunfire would be part of the appeal for them.
Think I would want both. Traditional firearms don’t need to be charged or any special material (whatever fuel it would use), this would be an advantage when depleted. Also traditional firearms have a range limit where it nose dives into the ground or moves slow enough to be less lethal. A light gun or laser gun would go far longer making hunting challenging as I now have to know what’s behind my target all the way until the earth curves enough to put the “bullet” into space.
Simon is loving every minute of this shit
Thanks guys
'we come in peace, shoot to kill'.
1 guy, JUST ONE...has ever stuck his head in an active particle accelerator, and the results were insane.
It basically cut a very narrow 'beam' thru his brain. not a literal beam, but the area affected was very narrow and the tissue was instantly destroyed.
...It was only a couple seconds and he lived, albeit with some noticeable disabilities.
So, mobile phaser may not be realistic in next century but a ship with a particle accelerator totally could be made.
Interesting note; in Roddenberry's original writers guide the Enterprise was originally launched with x-ray lasers and particle beams. phasers where an upgrade that permitted ftl combat.
@@JoeShmoism very interesting. Never read that.
I'm forgetting the guy who initially pioneered the notion (I do believe it was a sci fi writer contemporary to Heinlein) but they brought the notion of a 2 part system 1) ground based high-energy laser beam (prob gotta be sustained petawatts or above) 2) the spacecraft with a 'semi-circle dish that could gimble (in place of main accelerating thruster nozzle) OR a large panel (I think gold or silver) very much like some flexible solar panels...
In both cases the beam would hit the spacecraft giving it ability to slowly accelerate. There is a lot of particle physics involved, and the process is complex but basically you're bombarding a 'receiver' with the laser: akin to somebody throwing ping-pong balls at a large helium party balloon...Do so with enough, and you can 'slowly nudge it', do it with a ton and you can continually accelerate it via a billion nudges/sec. etc.
There are arguments of which EM bandwidth it'd be most effective: but usually the 2 that are considered are Xray and High-energy Microwave.
Depends on the max distance from ground to spacecraft, but the approach isn't too great probably past something like pluto, regardless of receiver size or initial energy at base station...due to things like beam spread/propagation.
Still, conservative estimates put that we could get craft up to something in the 0.2-0.5c speed with this method. Right now we can't even get to 0.0001c
Naturally, the issue is energy loss during maneuvers like an Oberth (banking/slingshotting off planet/moon)...bcuz you need to expend energy to excelerate out of the gravity well (thus gaining dV. The other MORE critical issue you'd have to solve is stopping: even if your destination is a star system you'd need either
1) another 'counter' beam station that hits your front and slows you down
2) a lot of precise orbital maneuvers and Aerobraking (brushing the top of the atmosphere to create drag and 'bleed off' your excel speed (dV)). This creates a crapton of heat stress though. and w/o fuel to counter it: its a "get it right 1st time, because no second change" type situation...which would be sketchy to say least.
As far as safety in all this goes: Lead is still one of the best known materials (and easiest to manipulate) to absorb particles. So you just shield your craft in it (making it weigh a crapton, cuz it prob needs 1-2ft of it).
@@djdrack4681 it's one of many things they screwed up in the Enterprise series. As much as I enjoyed it.
Again referencing the original writers guide, Earth's first contact with an alien race was with the Orions and contact was audio only. Zephram Cochran was a gold Orion who sent the plans for the warp drive to Earth via radio. He sent the plans to enable a face to face meeting.
Also there were originally several colors of Orions. The greens were the slave class but I think the slavers were supposed to be red or gold. Some gold Orions could pass for Terran humans some could not.
Someone from 200 years ago would have difficulty predicting the technology that exists today. Who knows what will exist in another 200 years? There will probably be new inventions we haven't even thought of yet
I want some PHASER ACTION soon! HAHA!
The US navy has already deployed D.E.W on ships. The army put lasers on the C130. But, yes, ground deployment isn't a thing yet.
First like! Wow Phasers! My fav thing of them in Star Trek has been the stun feature. That they can be nonlethal. In science fiction I have heard other names for them such as blasters and stunners.
Whether the weapon is lethal enough or not most likely will not stop arms researchers from trying to develop ever more powerful weapons. Our history shows that this is so. We seem to always be searching for more powerful ways to end one another. We are a most dangerous species.
phasers are good but you have to love the simple no option just kill Disruptor that will blow off the users hand if it overheats
Even watching Star Trek TNG as a kid I realized that phasers were getting a little out of hand. There was one episode (don't remember exactly which show it was) the phaser used had a remote sentry setting. At that point, why bother with being hand operated? Just add a anti-grav/impulse drive and give all the red shirts a personal protection drone.
although phasers can vaporize stuff if used in low power settings or shooting something with a bigger mass when its used in the show / movies at full power on people they are not vaporized they are deintegrated at the atomic level. but i do agree should be some kind of shockwave and or fireball when the water turns back to oxygen and hydrogen and ignites, not sure how noticeable it would look or feel in practice though if used at a distance on a target. you should definitely feel heat emanating from the target though if close enough.
Not "Vaporize". Probably what happened to my car antenna 📡 hit by lightning ⚡⚡💩...Which was very cooly and instantly "ionized" with a metallic screech...It happened so fast outside the windshield. It suddenly reminded me of the shootout in the TOS: Wrath of Khan....I think that's what they were going for.... 😆 😂.....
Just a thought, wouldn't it make sense to add the pew pew noise, so you can tell who miss fired their weapon into the back of the CO'S head during a live fir exercise?
A high-powered laser could kill people right now. The biggest challenge I see is energy storage. Gunpowder releases very large amounts of energy that we can mostly channel into a small projectile; what else can compare to that level of chemical energy in such a small package?
UN: Hey USA, how are you coming with that non-lethal Dazzler?
US: Looks like we are going to have to cancel it. The temporary blindness we were hoping for might sometimes be permanent...
UN: Yeah, that's too bad. So you better not use them. Back to Assault rifles and other projectile weapons then..
US: Yeah, that's for the best...
We will have hand held Gaus, or rail guns, before directed energy weapons. Even once we have the weapons, the energy storage will be the limiting factor.
We could be doing it now if they can find a way to miniaturize all the components needed.
I am 65 years old. When I was about 7 years old I saw a commercial for a kids laser pistol that was strong enouph to pop a balloon at about 10 to 15 feet. I saw it once and then never saw it again.
Mate love and am astonished by your production levels and supply but wonder if you're not becoming like putting ice in a lovely glass of Hendrick's? 🤔
I realize Simon is much given to mild exaggeration on his topics, but, 3000MPH (or 4.4KFps) is faster than any rifle bullet I've heard of. Not even that new 'thingy' the US army was testing couple yrs ago did that. Now, that rail gun the US navy tinkered with was doing some real hypersonic velocities.
Got to enjoy Simon's enthusiasm.