Olympic Gender Debate: EXPLAINED
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this video, we explain the recent controversy surrounding gender identity in Olympic boxing after the Italian, Angela Carini, stopped fighting only 46 seconds into her matchup against Imane Khelif of Algeria, who had been barred from a women’s event last year.
We examine the biological differences between male and female athletes, testosterone suppression challenges, and competition fairness. We also explore the cultural and legal aspects of gender identity in the Middle East.
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It’s just so extremely sad we are even needing these conversations 🥴😵💫 thanks for the video Jason 🙏🏻
I have a friend who's daughter is androgen resistant. She developed as a voluptuous woman. That is the default when the body can't "produce" the male externals. As an 18-month old, her testies herniated so they found out when they were doing hernia surgery. It was a literal shock to the parents and the OB/GYN, since they did the visual check at birth and -- girl parts is girl parts -- she was a girl. She is a girl, lives as a girl, etc. The two "trans" in the boxing events are just plain men. Men men men. If these men had this condition, they would have developed as a female. Just following the actual science. If these men had this condition, that is a separate discussion. But the IBA has stated they do not. The Olympics made a bad call and a woman was brutally beaten.
She did develop as a woman has female organs but XY chromosomes. But you are too lazy to actually bother to get to the bottom of it... SMH
Honestly, I’m over it. I no longer care what the excuse is. It is apparent that person shouldn’t have fought a women. Our own eyes can see that.
Excellent video. So very interesting, helpful, and informative. Very well explained. Thank you Jason.
Pax Christi. 🙏
Thank you for this video. You always provide a compassionate response to these gender/sex related issues
If female sports aren’t exclusively XX female, then you no longer have female sports. You have male sports and co-ed sports. How many females are excelling in male sports?
That's a fair question, but the challenge is that some males also have two X chromosomes. So, each sports governing body needs to look at all the complexities of the different situations and make it as fair as possible for female athletes. But keep in mind that some females do have XY chromosomes. It's a chromosomal anomaly, but it does exist for some women.
I have a question -
Since the person with CAIS has XY with sry gene and testosterone (androgen) but the cells have insensitivity. Should that person be a male with a sexual development problem than a female with a sexual development problem?
BTW I read your book (Male, Female, Other?), and it was excellent!!
Thank you. Some intersex conditions are difficult to discern. For CAIS, I think a strong case could be made to base the person's sex upon her phenotype, meaning the observable characteristics of a woman, rather than the XY chromosome set.
@@Chastityproject Thanks for the response. God bless
This is such pertinent information.
Since when is XY considered a female?
I'm tired of this topic. My response is to Support conservative, traditional, unwoke Christianity in All its denominations.
I learned about all the trans women in Iran a year or so ago. I wonder if they do successful bottom surgeries in Iran, but i couldn’t find out anything on it at that time. I don’t think it is a surgery that should be done; however, if they are going to do it, then they should use the most successful techniques. Bottom surgery has such a high failure rate that it shouldn’t even be discussed as an option by doctors. Surgeries have to have a minimum success rate in order for hospitals to allow the surgery & bottom surgery is nowhere near the number. I discussed it with family members who work in medicine & surgery. The only time it’s even possible to talk about performing such a surgery is if the patient is terminal, there are no other meds or treatments, the surgery is an experimental one that may save people with that disease one day. Even if all those things are true, they’d have to have an ethics committee agree to allow the surgery to go forward & the patient has to be psychologically prepared for it making things worse or killing them sooner & still agree to it for the betterment of mankind. The people who are allies & supporting those horrible bottom surgeries are causing suffering & death to those people they think they are helping. I have nerve & muscle damage in that area , which has also caused bladder issues too. I can’t work, can barely do anything, I’m in constant pain, etc. I did medium grocery shop yesterday, couldn’t sleep well last night from the pain, can barely walk, & will be in bed all day today & maybe tomorrow too. This happens every time I do pretty minor things. I’ve heard Exulansic on sub stack reading reddit posts or video clips from trans patients when she was here on RUclips, & the patients with bottom surgery have some of the exact problems I have so I know how they are suffering. Their bladder issues are so much worse & cause terrible infections due to rerouting the plumbing. They are going to start dying from urinary tract infections &/or they are going to die by suicide because they can’t take the physical pain & the psychological agony of not being able to do anything, ho anywhere without getting sick & being in more pain for days. When their suffering comes out in full in the next few decades, we must demand the journalists, activists who hid the truth about this issue to be held accountable as well.
Can we steer away from nonsense like "identify as" and stick to biological facts, please?
I am Taiwanese and Lin from Taiwan was born a female. She never changed her gender. Everyman in Taiwan has to serve time in the army so this gender thing is not a joke here. She is a female boxer and calling her a man is an insult that she doesn’t deserve. I stand with my country and our female boxer.
Really? Look at this person, he looks like a dude
Khalif and Lin are female victims experiencing oppression and bullying led by IBA in this event. IBA failed to show any evidence but statements on their press conference to proof the two female players possess XY chromosomes.
In a scientific research, measurements matter. The consistency and accuracy decide whether the measurement is suitable or not. Where, what and how did IBA examine the athletes are the keys to show public that their ‘claims’ are trustworthy. To disclose the measurements is not a privacy issue, but IBA kept them secret.
Why?
Additionally, Khalif and Lin stated they are females again and again. They were born female. Lin even holds certification from qualified hospital.
Why their statements cannot be accepted?
How can people judge them without solid proof?
It is so easy for such a big and powerful organisation to oppress and bully athletes from small countries like Khalif and Lin. All IBA needs to do is to ‘claim’ they are men.
BTW, Lin’s appeal was rejected by IBA after her Bronze medal was withdrawn. When a journalist asked about Lin’s situation at the press conference IBA held, their answer was they respect China, and Taiwan, where Lin is from, belongs to China. Clearly, the whole thing is a political issue to IBA.
I'm sorry to break it to you but if they have testicles, inside or out, they are men, they also might have an underdeveloped penis but still a penis. They don't have uterus or ovaries so they are not females.
Jason saying benching 285 as nothing is wild 😂
If it is an XY is a man, they have testes, and don't have uterus or ovaries, even if they are underdeveloped as males, that's the truth, defending truth cannot be masked with charity discourse. Obviously they might have thought in the beginning they were females, but the reality is that they are not and female integrity should be protected.
Fr.Clinton Sensat-
"I am not an Imane Khelif apologist. But here are a few things I know.
1. She's not male. Please stop saying she's a man. A female with CCSD is still female, even if she has XY chromosomes. Having XY chromosomes is not the end of the story, scientifically. The SRY gene on the Y chromosome has to work for a person to be male. We learned XY in high school as a convenient scientific shorthand for when things work normally, just like we learned the Bohr model of the atom. It's amazing how many people on my feed became genetic biologists over the weekend.
We share 98.8% of DNA with chimps. That doesn't make us chimps. Not even the IBA has ever said Imane was male. They just said she had something that gave her competitive advantage. And to people who scream "just look at him!" go look at Brittney Griner and get back to me.
2. It may be that Imane has a CCSD (DSD; intersex; etc.) If so, this would have been a good time to have a calm and thoughtful debate about where people with CCSDs belong in athletics. There are currently no rules for that in the Olympics. It would have been good to think through what that means. Instead, people are just screaming about a man in woman's boxing.
In case you didn't know, there are lots of people with CCSDs in the world. A small percentage, sure, but a small percentage of 8 billion people is still a lot of people. And they're watching the frothing, seething hate delivered against this woman because she is or may be intersex. That's...not a good look.
3. As Catholics, and Christians more generally, we're in what has become a zero sum fight over sexuality and gender. This would have been a marvelous time to show our depth and thoughtfulness on the issue. It would have been great to be able to calmly articulate the difference between someone who is born sexually ambiguous or with a congenital sexual condition and a man who claims to be a woman. Because by equating the two, you give our opponents every advantage to claim transgenderism is just as much something you're born with as CCSDs are.
I'm going to get to Christian love next. But we've FAILED on being witnesses of Christian TRUTH here. Publicly, loudly, and utterly avoidably, we've failed.
4. AND we've failed in love! Imane, if she has a CCSD, has had an incredibly difficult life. Do you think that life was made easier by growing up in a country town in a conservative Muslim country? SHE'S A PERSON. Even if our considered opinion is that she shouldn't be competing in women's boxing, where has all this hate come from? Why are we posting gotcha pictures of the way her shorts fold or what she looks like running? Why are we constantly screaming that a woman with a medical condition is a man engaging in domestic abuse in the ring?
My brothers and sisters in Christ - what the heck?
How is that even remotely moral? I'm not some sappy liberal saying we should always be nice and never call out evil. But this? This reaction? My goodness. Gossip is not less sinful because it's done online. Slander is not less sinful because it's on social media. Hatred doesn't become justified because it's against an Olympic athlete.
I know I'm going to catch hell for this post. But I'm a priest, and as a priest I have a moral duty to say this is wrong. I've watched with horror as many people I love and respect publicly sin over this issue. It has to stop.
A woman with a medical condition shouldn't get all your hate even if you don't believe she should be competing in a sport you've probably never watched before.
I was horrified by the Last Supper tableau. But this issue has been a far greater blight on Christianity's public face, and we did it to ourselves.
I'm asking people to think, and pray, and, if necessary, repent.
I'm tired of saying it, but we need to be better."
Sorry to tell you but you are wrong. An XY male with a defective sex gene expression doesn’t make a default female. There is an old sexist saying that women are just defective men or a byproduct of men. Please don’t give that credence.
Hello to Crystalina!
Hope she's doing well..
"I officially made the Women U.S. Soccer National Team. Please watch me playing at the Olympics!!" LOL
Parents need to explain the rules & proper manners to all environments to their kids. Then if there’s an allergy or some preference that doesn’t align with your kid, then you tell them that people don’t have to change everything in the world to cater to them; they need eat before they go, pack their own snacks, etc. That’s exactly what my Mom did for me. She explained it a very loving but firm wat & told me that I can expect the world to revolve around me even though our family revolves around the kids we had to understand that the rest of the world doesn’t think the world revolves around us. I’m thankful that my family dealt with my extreme picky eating like that. If that hadn’t, I would’ve gone to every bday party, sleepover, etc. & demanded special food, complained about how terrible the food was, & people would’ve stopped inviting me because I would’ve been a pain in the butt.
Parents need to explain the rules & proper manners to all environments to their kids. Then if there’s an allergy or some preference that doesn’t align with your kid, then you tell them that people don’t have to change everything in the world to cater to them; they need eat before they go, pack their own snacks, etc. That’s exactly what my Mom did for me. She explained it a very loving but firm wat & told me that I can expect the world to revolve around me even though our family revolves around the kids we had to understand that the rest of the world doesn’t think the world revolves around us.
You literally said that they had the same athleticism until puberty and now they’re different bc of testosterone levels. That means if their testosterone levels were suppressed to that of the average female, there would be no advantage
Maybe the levels they have now are higher than what you’d be happy with and if you want that changed you can absolutely be an advocate for that but you’re defeating your own argument
Good question. When a male goes through puberty, the testosterone combined with his genetics triggers a very different change than it does in a woman's body, through estrogen and her genetics. If you gave a girl T through puberty, she would not turn out with the physical traits of a man at the end of puberty. This is why a Dallas soccer team of 15-year-old boys defeated the US women's national team not long ago.
Wasn’t Yahweh androgynous? Wasn’t he both male and female. Isn’t this why we were all made in his own image? Both male AND female rather than male OR female? Aren’t all anatomical males Transsexuals? Didn’t they all start out with a proto-vagina and then only later transition to a male phallus? Isn’t a male phallus simply a renovated vagina? Didn’t the greatest clinical psychiatrist and psychologist of the 2Oth century, Carl Gustav Jung, demonstrate that the human psyche is androgynous just like Yahweh himself. Isn’t Mother Nature and her natural world LGBT rather than Heterosexual. Aren’t many animals bi-sexual? Don’t some of them transition from one sex to the other? Isn't exclusive Heterosexuality unnatural and abnormal? Doesn't it contradict known Western Science as well as the natural world? Aren’t the sexual teachings of the Roman Catholic Empire just as wrong as their teachings on human slavery used to be? Until rather recently? See the brilliant and amusing Peacock documentary titled: QUEER PLANET.💙
Lots of fair questions there. God is not androgynous or both male and female because God is outside of the categories of sexed biological beings. Indeed, in an embryonic stage, both male and female embryos look similar, but they're also vastly different from a genetic perspective. So, it's scientifically false to claim that males transition to females. If nature were not heterosexual, all living beings that do not reproduce asexually would become extinct in one generation, and that's why it is intrinsically ordered towards procreation. That being said, some animals do exhibit sexual behaviors with members of the same sex, but it's typically in the realm of dominance behaviors. But, we need to keep in mind that some animals eat their own young. So, we should temper our desire to imitate the beasts. In terms of animals changing their sex, feweer than 1% do, and it's called sequential hermaphroditism. For example, the Gobi fish. But, humans lack this trait. Our sexed is fixed, and is revealed in every cell of the body that has a nucleus.
@@Chastityproject According to Jewish tradition YAHWEH is androgynous. Both male and female. I assume that you are not Jewish? I never said that males transition to females in the womb. I said that proto-females transition to males which is a scientific fact which faith based folks don't seem to understand. If you watch the recent Peacock documentary titled: QUEER PLANET you will see and hear from scientists that Mother Nature has never been heterosexual but has always been LGBT. Many animals have opposite-sex for procreation but many have same-sex for bonding. And bonding is very important for group stability. Think of Lions and Giraffes and Hyenas and Monkeys. And are not Human Beings 95% DNA similar to Apes? And there are also a number of animals which transition from one sex to the other. Please watch the many scientists on QUEER PLANET so that you can better understand what you clearly don't. 💙