Incredibly entertaining TAS, I never once considered that you could land on a target without deploying the ball wings, but to see that doing so still allows you to walk around on them was insane!
First time my brother and I ever played this, we didn't think to press "A", so we just kept running off the end of the ramp to our doom, wondering how we were supposed to get to any of the targets with a ball. I see now we had the right idea all along.
I didn't even know that you could roll casually on the targets, if you can miraculously reach it! That is the coolest tidbit I've ever seen, for this series!
I wonder how many people would be surprised to hear that round 3 was actually more challenging to make than rounds 1 or 4? Banana & wind RNG + Difficult flight + Speed preservation. Round 3 had it out for me 0_0
The ammount of detail they put into this game is astounding. The fact they put bananas on the ramps makes me wonder if they also indended the single bananas on the targets to be collected by swooping down and grabbing them. Its only through this perfected form of play could I finally see the full scope of the what the people designing monkey flight were going for.
this deserves to get a boom in attention, it's a fantastic high score tas that gives surprise after surprise with how much you can take advantage of smb's physics
I'm pretty sure this might be THE most magical TAS the concept of gaming could possibly offer. I do not want to know all the drugs you used to allow your brain to think up this routing, let alone perform it in an actual run.
As for “thinking up the routing”, this whole thing happened just because I had the funny idea to reach the targets without opening wings. I could’ve never guessed the bombs would allow for literally every bunch to be collected, I didnt even know they affected ball-rolling gameplay at all! It made me jump the first time one exploded and i went flying into the air 0_0
Absolutely jaw-dropping. I never knew that if you had enough speed to reach the target without flying you could still roll around. It makes sense, though. Very entertaining TAS :)
The moment I discovered the bomb hits sent the ball flying into the air, I went into a similar hysterical laughing fit xD It’s SO silly that they actually function that way even before the ball’s wings have been closed
04:08 & 11:07 My favorite parts where Gongon looks so dead after all the shenanigans from Rounds 1 & 4 with the announcer saying "excellent" and the triumphant music playing.
person who has no access to the internet but goes to their arcade to play monkey ball every week going on the internet for the first time and searching "monkey ball" and discovering the existence of gongon and is having a breakthrough cue that one gif of the glasses guy's mind exploding in space
The first time he turned back to hit the ramp a second time I started laughing, wild strategy. Haven't played this game in years but i've played enough to know i'd be playing with a god if he doubled back on the start ramp mid-run.
That's actually the post-bomb animation, Gon Gon is stuck in that animation because we've hit the bombs but the game never expected us to do that before opening the wings. It's the same reason the ball spins out and loses all its speed when we finally do open the wings later in that round, cuz the ball is set to a spin-out state when we hit the bombs but the spin out can't happen while the wings arent open :0
I didnt keep track of hours, but it took a lot of work over the course of about a week. The TAS file has 27,600 re-records (AKA # of times i loaded a savestate)
The reason I was able to scoot around on the stages was because Monkey Target goes through 3 modes in sequence: Rolling, Flying, then Dropping. The normal “dropping” state after u close ur wings gives u no control over the ball, and ends the round by collecting points on whatever target ur on (including the starting ramp, which gives u 1 point while saying “oh no!”) Because I was able to use janky ramp collision to reach the first target on rounds 1 and 4 without opening wings, I never needed to enter the “Drop” state where u lose control of the ball, so I could roll around collecting bananas as much as i pleased. The bombs ended up being an unexpected ally for being able to get as many bunches as possible before opening the ball’s wings, since they could boost my height by a ton without any flying needed.
The other non-obvious thing at play during rounds 3 and 5 in particular is banana-RNG. The bananas in Monkey Target are randomly generated, so both their amount and position will change depending on which frame u pressed A to move on from the previous round. This meant for the stages where I needed to get lots of fly-by singles, I needed to use savestates to keep re-rolling the RNG for those rounds by pressing A at slightly different times until I got bananas in a clean line that i could fly through, plus wind that points in a helpful direction (the wind direction + strength is determined by the same RNG). This was particularly obnoxious on Round 3, where I needed to get at least 9 fly-by singles to reach the next x3-multiplier on the powerup list. Every time I got a layout with lines of 3 on each target, I never had enough speed to get that final bunch. It was only once I lucked out with that insane line of 6 fly-by bananas on the first target where I was able to skip target 2 and BARELY have enough speed to get the final bunch with all 9 fly-by singles i wanted. This combination of precise flying and obnoxious RNG made round 3 harder the hardest in the tas, Im glad that map only shows up once ‘^-^
@@QueenOfPessimism According to my input recording file, just over 27,600. The real number may be a little bit higher because of going back to an old input recording when having to re-do a round at some point, but it's a good estimate of ~30,000.
I never would have thought that people optimise the Monkey Target game, but DAMNNNNNN GON GON PLAYS A GOOD MONKEY TARGET (seriously, what the... i could barely even land on the targets lol)
To be honest, my original idea was just to reach the targets, get like a few singles, and then open wings to get like 10 more bunches. I did NOT expect the bombs to actually shoot the ball into the air, allowing for literally every banana to be collected on rounds 1 and 4 0_0
Did not know something like this existed. That being said I am fully ready to enjoy the next 13 and a half minutes of my life watching this Ok I posted that before watching the video obviously and now that I'm even partway through I'm immediately blown away
You lose control of the ball after closing the wings, so once the ball stops rolling if it lands on the ramp the game awards literally 1 point and says "Oh no!" as a little easter egg :0
I came here to brag that I have on atleast 10 times playing against my cousins and brother we hit a 500 with 3x. I thought the TAS would do this but im like 2 mins in and this dudes not even opened the damn ball😂 Anyone else do the 3X 500 landing?
The current score record for 5-round actually hits the x3 500 landing at every round where that powerup is available, it's a really fun challenge :D ruclips.net/video/htehd9AigXw/видео.html
For bombs, I just went with what I was given, but the banana counts on rounds 1 and 4 needed to be high enough for me to reach the next powerup cycle, so I did use RNG manip for that! (As well as for banana positions on all the other rounds, for workable flight patterns)
Because of how bounce restitution works in Monkey Ball, chaining infinite height off consecutive bomb bounces unfortunately doesnt seem possible. However, in Round 4 I got a looot of height from hitting 3 bombs that happened to spawn close together. Makes me also wonder how much height u would get from hitting 4 bombs at once from high up. I know distance-wise Monkey Target does have an invisible barrier, but I have no clue if there's an invisible barrier for height too 0_0
I believe that is a feature unique to Monkey Target 2 (the version in SMB2) which has a much different scoring system. Would be neat to see a TAS with it tho, just not sure if I’d be the one to do it :P
Pretty much exactly correct. The only reason I was able to use the bombs in rounds 1 and 4 is because the targets are JUST close enough to the start ramp to be able to make the distance without entering flight mode. Since the targets are much further on the other 2 maps, I had to opt for optimizing the flight patterns (which actually proved to be just as hard as the more flashy-looking bomb shenanigans, especially on round 3!)
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10/10 loved the bit where the monkey hit the target
I liked that part too :]
"Just land on the platform!"
"We're not aiming for the platform!"
"The bananas are too tasty!" :]
Incredibly entertaining TAS, I never once considered that you could land on a target without deploying the ball wings, but to see that doing so still allows you to walk around on them was insane!
the people in the blimp watching GonGon get thrashed around by the hand of god for 10 minutes: 👁️👄👁️
I clicked on a Monkey Target video. I WAS NOT EXPECTING Monkey Pinball?!?!
Gongon is being split into subatomic monkey particles in there lmaooo
First time my brother and I ever played this, we didn't think to press "A", so we just kept running off the end of the ramp to our doom, wondering how we were supposed to get to any of the targets with a ball.
I see now we had the right idea all along.
That’s so awesome xD
Your brother probably replicated this TAS in real time then. XD
One of the most wicked TASes I've ever seen, awesome job!
I love how Gongon’s screams of absolute agony are in time with the music at some points
I didn't even know that you could roll casually on the targets, if you can miraculously reach it! That is the coolest tidbit I've ever seen, for this series!
Aha, so that's how you get the bunches below the ramp, noted
Also, walking on the targets feels so wrong lmao, nutty TAS
There's banana's under the ramp? Thar means the expected someone to do some of this craziness. Really great work!
I wonder how many people would be surprised to hear that round 3 was actually more challenging to make than rounds 1 or 4?
Banana & wind RNG + Difficult flight + Speed preservation. Round 3 had it out for me 0_0
Holy cow, that was so much cooler than I expected. Mind blowing.
easily the most fun ive had watching a monkey ball tas!
One of the most entertaining TASes I've ever seen, amazing job Nambo!
Monkey Targer
HOLY SMOKES. I never would have thought anything like that would be possible. That was CRAZY. Excellent Job.
The ammount of detail they put into this game is astounding. The fact they put bananas on the ramps makes me wonder if they also indended the single bananas on the targets to be collected by swooping down and grabbing them. Its only through this perfected form of play could I finally see the full scope of the what the people designing monkey flight were going for.
actually terrifying to watch! i'm obsessed with that perfect swoop getting the platform bananas on round 3. incredible work and holy hell.
this deserves to get a boom in attention, it's a fantastic high score tas that gives surprise after surprise with how much you can take advantage of smb's physics
I'm pretty sure this might be THE most magical TAS the concept of gaming could possibly offer.
I do not want to know all the drugs you used to allow your brain to think up this routing, let alone perform it in an actual run.
As for “thinking up the routing”, this whole thing happened just because I had the funny idea to reach the targets without opening wings. I could’ve never guessed the bombs would allow for literally every bunch to be collected, I didnt even know they affected ball-rolling gameplay at all! It made me jump the first time one exploded and i went flying into the air 0_0
@namb0 did it jumpscare you when you first hit the bomb
@@SD-MB-BB-CRYes, it totally did! I remember shouting out loud and the people i was discord calling with asked me what was going on xD
Needs way more attention goddamn. Definitely going in my top 5 craziest TASes
Absolutely jaw-dropping. I never knew that if you had enough speed to reach the target without flying you could still roll around. It makes sense, though. Very entertaining TAS :)
I’ve been thinking about how cool a monkey target TAS would be for years, very cool to see someone finally make one!
Namb0 once again being the GREATEST to ever do it
ultimate dopeness times eleven
I played this all the time as a kid, and I started laughing hysterically at how absolutely insane that first round was. Blew my mind.
The moment I discovered the bomb hits sent the ball flying into the air, I went into a similar hysterical laughing fit xD
It’s SO silly that they actually function that way even before the ball’s wings have been closed
04:08 & 11:07
My favorite parts where Gongon looks so dead after all the shenanigans from Rounds 1 & 4 with the announcer saying "excellent" and the triumphant music playing.
This TAS guy? Obviously a cheater. You can tell because he unlocked GonGon, which has never been done before.
person who has no access to the internet but goes to their arcade to play monkey ball every week going on the internet for the first time and searching "monkey ball" and discovering the existence of gongon and is having a breakthrough cue that one gif of the glasses guy's mind exploding in space
Epic sauce
This is incredibly awesome!!
Holy shit this is nuts! I've never seen anyone land on the targets without opeining the ball.
When i was very young i used to always wonder if it was even possible, u can actually get pretty dang close outside of TAS on that first map 0_0
unbelievable! so awesome!
The first time he turned back to hit the ramp a second time I started laughing, wild strategy. Haven't played this game in years but i've played enough to know i'd be playing with a god if he doubled back on the start ramp mid-run.
See no one uses Gongon...everyone mains Baby, so there you have it. Use Gongon next time. XD
Literally how
Why is Gongon shaking in trauma on the 1st one lol
That's actually the post-bomb animation, Gon Gon is stuck in that animation because we've hit the bombs but the game never expected us to do that before opening the wings. It's the same reason the ball spins out and loses all its speed when we finally do open the wings later in that round, cuz the ball is set to a spin-out state when we hit the bombs but the spin out can't happen while the wings arent open :0
Wow! You did the thing! : D
Rolling around on the targets was literally a childhood dream of mine :D
8:50-9:06 Yo who taught GonGon how to freestyle to the beat like that
Also known as gongon’s bad day
No monkeys were harmed during the making of this TAS.
a LOT of monkeys fell in the water 0_0
I thiiiink they're ok tho? :P
oh so thats how you're sposed to get those bananas
SOME OF THE BEST MONKEYBALL IVE SEEN IN YEARS
Oh no, you got the bomb penalty!
...Why are you going bananas?
There’s no way. This is so fucking sick!
This is the craziest TAS I have ever seen
Very entertaining!
Monkey Target Was A Fun Party Game On Super Monkey Ball
Amazing work, I never knew you could do any of that in Target before?
How many hours in total did this take to complete?
I didnt keep track of hours, but it took a lot of work over the course of about a week. The TAS file has 27,600 re-records (AKA # of times i loaded a savestate)
fantastic
I would love a commentary on how some of this is done. Especially when u are scooting on the stages!
The reason I was able to scoot around on the stages was because Monkey Target goes through 3 modes in sequence: Rolling, Flying, then Dropping. The normal “dropping” state after u close ur wings gives u no control over the ball, and ends the round by collecting points on whatever target ur on (including the starting ramp, which gives u 1 point while saying “oh no!”)
Because I was able to use janky ramp collision to reach the first target on rounds 1 and 4 without opening wings, I never needed to enter the “Drop” state where u lose control of the ball, so I could roll around collecting bananas as much as i pleased. The bombs ended up being an unexpected ally for being able to get as many bunches as possible before opening the ball’s wings, since they could boost my height by a ton without any flying needed.
The other non-obvious thing at play during rounds 3 and 5 in particular is banana-RNG. The bananas in Monkey Target are randomly generated, so both their amount and position will change depending on which frame u pressed A to move on from the previous round. This meant for the stages where I needed to get lots of fly-by singles, I needed to use savestates to keep re-rolling the RNG for those rounds by pressing A at slightly different times until I got bananas in a clean line that i could fly through, plus wind that points in a helpful direction (the wind direction + strength is determined by the same RNG).
This was particularly obnoxious on Round 3, where I needed to get at least 9 fly-by singles to reach the next x3-multiplier on the powerup list. Every time I got a layout with lines of 3 on each target, I never had enough speed to get that final bunch. It was only once I lucked out with that insane line of 6 fly-by bananas on the first target where I was able to skip target 2 and BARELY have enough speed to get the final bunch with all 9 fly-by singles i wanted. This combination of precise flying and obnoxious RNG made round 3 harder the hardest in the tas, Im glad that map only shows up once ‘^-^
@@namb0 this is indispensable information, thank you! How many re records did you end up having?
@@QueenOfPessimism According to my input recording file, just over 27,600. The real number may be a little bit higher because of going back to an old input recording when having to re-do a round at some point, but it's a good estimate of ~30,000.
This video is pretty bananas…
Man this takes me back, thank you
I never would have thought that people optimise the Monkey Target game, but DAMNNNNNN GON GON PLAYS A GOOD MONKEY TARGET
(seriously, what the... i could barely even land on the targets lol)
i love the amount of gliding speed at 6:16
I Did This Super Monkey Ball Monkey Target When I Was A Kid
truly a legend of the game
This is the most convoluted strategy in all of TASing
Even for a TAS, this is some bullshit 😂
How do you even begin to map this out
To be honest, my original idea was just to reach the targets, get like a few singles, and then open wings to get like 10 more bunches. I did NOT expect the bombs to actually shoot the ball into the air, allowing for literally every banana to be collected on rounds 1 and 4 0_0
Man, amazing what having little squirrel fingers can accomplish
4:06 Gongong Lands On The Skinny Platform
Did not know something like this existed. That being said I am fully ready to enjoy the next 13 and a half minutes of my life watching this
Ok I posted that before watching the video obviously and now that I'm even partway through I'm immediately blown away
🤯🤯🤯
0:26 Bomb 💣
This is so sick
Clearly I've been playing this mode wrong....for years....
Man casually nukes gorilla for like 5 minutes
That was the craziest TAS I have ever seen
I want to see a Birds Eye view of this playing out
Impressive! What happens if you open the wings and land back on the ramp? Does the game end or can you take off again?
You lose control of the ball after closing the wings, so once the ball stops rolling if it lands on the ramp the game awards literally 1 point and says "Oh no!" as a little easter egg :0
*_How can he keep getting away with it??_*
I came here to brag that I have on atleast 10 times playing against my cousins and brother we hit a 500 with 3x. I thought the TAS would do this but im like 2 mins in and this dudes not even opened the damn ball😂 Anyone else do the 3X 500 landing?
The current score record for 5-round actually hits the x3 500 landing at every round where that powerup is available, it's a really fun challenge :D ruclips.net/video/htehd9AigXw/видео.html
If i was a kid i would think this is done by a human and i can do it too lol good job nambo that was really entertaining (sorry for bad language)
GonGon go Speen 0:50, 1:23
😳
I love it
Someone has been playing way too much Monkey Ball!
On The Bottom Was A Bunch Of Banana 🍌 On Monkey Target Super Monkey Ball
Best Music ever!❤
Did you RNG manipulate the bomb spawns on rounds 1 and 4 at all or did you just roll with what you were given?
For bombs, I just went with what I was given, but the banana counts on rounds 1 and 4 needed to be high enough for me to reach the next powerup cycle, so I did use RNG manip for that! (As well as for banana positions on all the other rounds, for workable flight patterns)
@@namb0 Makes sense to me, great work on this!
Gon Gon
hilarious
Now I want to know... Just HOW much height and speed can you possibly get? And then how far can you fly with it?
Because of how bounce restitution works in Monkey Ball, chaining infinite height off consecutive bomb bounces unfortunately doesnt seem possible. However, in Round 4 I got a looot of height from hitting 3 bombs that happened to spawn close together. Makes me also wonder how much height u would get from hitting 4 bombs at once from high up. I know distance-wise Monkey Target does have an invisible barrier, but I have no clue if there's an invisible barrier for height too 0_0
I am curious if you can reach the blimp.
It's actually possible to get every banana... and land on a target... x.x
not quite sure if this is how monkey target works but you should try a multi-monkey tas. you know. The multiple monkeys that can change formations?
I believe that is a feature unique to Monkey Target 2 (the version in SMB2) which has a much different scoring system. Would be neat to see a TAS with it tho, just not sure if I’d be the one to do it :P
I think SEGA did not wanted you to do this...
How Many Times Gongon Hit The Bomb 💣 On Monkey Target
You’re insane! Holy crap that was amazing!
HUH?!?
lemme plug my game up … lol
TAS my ass, this isn’t a speed run this is a style run
What is the strat here? What makes him fly for 10x more distance? I'm guessing it's the reuse of the ramp, building up speed.
Its partly that, and in rounds 1 & 4 its because the bombs let the ball get tons and tons of excess height when u hit multiple at once.
10/10
I Landed On The Platform On Monkey Target
I’m curious why bombs weren’t used in every round, is it only possible to hop between targets on the first set?
Pretty much exactly correct. The only reason I was able to use the bombs in rounds 1 and 4 is because the targets are JUST close enough to the start ramp to be able to make the distance without entering flight mode. Since the targets are much further on the other 2 maps, I had to opt for optimizing the flight patterns (which actually proved to be just as hard as the more flashy-looking bomb shenanigans, especially on round 3!)
This
Does this work when you speed all the way to the targets with out gliding in monkey ball deluxe on ps2?
I actually am not sure! Never played ps2 or xbox deluxe, so I wouldnt know.
@@namb0 you can try it using the ps2 emulator but idk about the xbox emulator one
WTF!!!