Are the "Boys" divided, deluded or worse? Wajahat & Ayesha Siddiqa debate the Pak Army
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- The #Boys are back in town, but they're in trouble. The faceoff with the #PTI has put the #pakistanarmy in a mess when it comes to public support, unity of command, and the most important factor: morale.
#wajahatsaeedkhan debates with leading military scholar #ayeshasiddiqa, about what's next with the world's fifth largest fighting force, considering that #imrankhan has won the latest round.
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Bio: Wajahat S. Khan is an Emmy-nominated journalist and author reporting on Indo-Pacific security and focusing on the Af-Pak conflict. An Adjunct Professor at New York University’s Center of Global Affairs and a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at Washington’s Atlantic Council, Khan is a graduate of the Columbia University School of Journalism and the University of Michigan, and Pakistan’s only Shorenstein Fellow from Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government. He has reported from 16 countries covering conflict, diplomacy, and media for digital, cable and network news. During the final years of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan, Khan was bureau chief in Kabul and Islamabad for NBC News, and embedded with over a hundred NATO, Afghan, Indian and Pakistani military units as he covered South Asia for leading British, Indian and Pakistani networks and publications since the beginning of the 2001 U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. He frequently dabbles in cricket, and is the author of the 2019 Amazon / Harper Collins sports bestseller, Game Changer: Being Shahid Afridi. He lives between New York City, London and Karachi and drives a very, very fast car.
Ayesha Siddiqa is an intelligent person. She has a decent grip on the subject of Pakistan Army. Invite her more often 👍
I realized a marked difference of demeanor between expression of men of letters and women of letters.
If Ayesha had less to worry about her status and presentstion and had she been talking to her mom she had this to say
Mujhe lugta he k Asim Munir (AM) ki maa ne kisi qabooliyet ki ghari me jo dua AM k liye ki ho gi wo poori hoi he. Or AM ne tender age me hifz k doran jo maarein khYein hain un ki badolat ye aik shattered personality ka admi tha or he.
Is ko is k barŕe bahaduri or afsari ka sabq dete rahe or ye bichara apni Mental health me sink hota raha.
On another level he looks like a severe case of child abuse. This explains why he is on the move at critical junctures. And this also explains Ayeshas observation that he is a tool to handle IK.
But but but ....I also want to take it to a different direction and pray for a touch of sympathy. Had he courage to say no he wd not hv joined army had he courage he wd not hv accepted any promotion. Had he courage he wd not hv pledged to NS. He seems not to be the one intentionally taking decisions. He is no courage to either say no or do anything against the people around him to displease them.
He is at the LOWEST level of MH. HAVE SOME SYMPATHY.
Please on western media she is very anti Imran Khan and anti PTI. She is very pro PPP and PLMN. Wouldn't be surprised if she is on their payroll!!!
@@samiyamlk5well said ❤
@@samiyamlk5 may be OTS is also a factor
Listening to Dr.Ayesha was a treat
Great analysis by a learned person. But most of our rulers are not for Pakistan and it’s growth. People have to take charge
She is pro PDM and anti Imran. Mega biased
Ye aunti imran Khan k khilaf h
Excellent analysis...some theories could be speculated but historical evidence is enough to validate. Thanks for initiating this interview and do bring her often in future discussions .
Brilliant analysis and really sad to see that our state institutions are in dilemma
Pakistan Zindabad…. Perfect, powerful and in-depth analysis on current affairs of Pak Army .. we know COAS is in trouble .. but he has bought this chair at the price of honor .. now he is indebted to the investors, and resulted is the chaos that country is suffering.. Dr Ayesha rightly mentioned overhauling that is needed in institutions but the matter is who has the guts to do that .. only Khan if he gets the team and power will be able to do!
Great show … Bravo 👏
She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.
Mere Bhi Pakistan zinda bad ni hora zinda bhag hota he apna Nara sahi krne ka waqt agya he
Khan indeed has a great team or super cabinet that consists of Pinki Peerni, Farah Gogi, Usman Buzdar, Shiekh Talli, Fawad Halwai, Pervez Illahi(Punjab ka Sabse bada daaku) and finally Youthia Bandiyal.
What we have seen khan in ten tears he is the worst of all he will install another buzdar as coas and what will happen you can never imagine.. he has gang of theif in his team as pinki pirni andfarah goggi as competent team. If khan ever come into power I am seeing chaos and clashes in pakistan.
@@tseringangchuk5420 and not to forget their leader whonthey now say deserves respect pf a.prophet.
In Pakistan: Anarchy, Lawlessness is the law. Reign Of Terror is the form/system. Corruption is the main business.
They r following british empire's footsteps.
Let's not forget current problem is Sharif Buying out Munir. Something this highly biased lady didn't say!!!! She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.
So true
only rule of law will curb all these problems that's why v support IK
Seriously man, I hate this society jaha per tumhara sirf taruf chalay Kay may army officer ya police may DSP ho. Why bro why? Keo taruf chahiye bas CNIC lo and see that I'm a citizen of Pakistan just as you
Pakistan Army owns the country with 25 millions slaves but in most countries, the country owns it's army.
Malik Riaz ko b ap slave lagta hai?ya Nishant group, ya nawaz group
You mean 250 million slaves!
Enemy BOT spotted
Imran Khan vs Pak Army Establishment !
Who's betting on Imran Khan as the ultimate winner.
ITS 2300MIL ,23 CURROR LOG
One of the best Vlogs of yours WJS, very soft but critical conversation; speakers like Dr Aisha, Dr Moeed bring this critical academic perspective. Need more of such shows.
2:05 - Loved the line, you said to Inc.! Haha! Always nice to hear her! Genius!
These Generals are making the whole of Pakistan look disgusting with their actions
Nothing will happen.
Here in bloody Paki society , bloody Law supports & protect the criminals , money launderers , usurpers , land grabbers & corrupt elite(rather rogues)..
Unfortunately the real rogues are Boots & Guns....
What have civilian goverments acheived.?
@Mohd Iqbal was there any civilian Govt. .? I doubt.
The corrupt generals need to go
@@mohdiqbal8972 after a long period of time PAK has got a most honest and visionary leader as IK. So pls support him to come to power as political party. He has vision to direct the country in a positive way.
Taking about corruption of politicians and ignoring army is ignorance at its best
no, not talking about wadera shahis and the same army whoch engineered ANARI KHAN'S election in 2018 is very misleading
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Excellent discussion - great insight by Dr. Ayesha - thanks, Wajahat, for allowing us to listen to her views firsthand as she wasn't in my good books(I'm sure there must be other "ex-fiftheyes") - cleared many misconceptions about her - all the credit goes to IK and many those like you who put their lives at stake and many who laid down their lives to get this menace exposed right in broad daylight.
One last request to clear up things 100% - in your next interaction with Dr. Ayesha, we request she raises Pakistan Zindabad along with you.
I remember military inc. our teacher asked us to read during Phd course....
Brilliant, balanced and none biased discussion 👏 👍
جناب محترم برادر وجاھت سعید خان صاحب اور محترمہ بہن عائشہ صدیقہ صاحبہ اج اپ دونوں دوستوں کا وی لاگ سنا ھے۔ اپ نے بہت تفصیل سے پاک ارمی کے حالات بیان کئے ہیں۔ میں اپکے لیے اور بھائی وجاھت سعید خان صاحب کے لئے اللہ تعالٰی سے دعا گو ھوں اللہ تعالٰی اپ سب کیلے اسانیاں پیدا کر دے تاکہ اپ اپنے وطن عزیز پاکستان واپس جا سیکں امین ثم آمین انشاءاللہ۔ اللہ نگہبان۔
Salute to Mam Dr. Aysha, being public procurement professional I would like to read her books on army procurement to gain knowledge as well as to judge insights in that...❤
. Thanks wajahat❤
بہت اچھی گفتگو تھی۔پاکستان ژندہ باد
Thank God you included Ms Ayesha Siddiqa. I am glad to hear her perspective. Surprised to hear that the army chief flew to Qatr. What was the need to? Who did he go to? No Asim Muneer is nervous. His visit to Qatr shows this!
Really exceptionally analysis by Ayasha Siddiqa. I really enjoyed the whole vlog.
Another fantastic and thought provoking discussion… It seems from the context of the logic pertaining to the acceptability of Asim Munir is stemming from a diluted nucleus that is equivalent to animosity. In other words requirement or the job description for the next army chief was to ensure the person should hate Imran Khan. Using the word hate not envy because the next army chief had to make this a personal agenda. If that’s the case then Asim Munir was a mediocre but a choice that fits the bill. And your point on stacking the deck is absolutely the pointed end of a needle. Would be awesome to hear your complete thoughts. This roaming around and not being put; is he investing or in search of a hide out. Do u think he has some clarity that he is entrapped or deceived by Bajwa.
Ayesha Siddiqa ji continues to amaze me with the insights she shares. I admire her keen observation at events and the way she arrives at conclusions is just awesome.
Very brilliant talk by professor Ayesha Siddiqa.
Another good discussion Wajahat and absolutely intellectual guest. Thankyou so much 😊
great discussion Wajahat Sahb..Thank you so much
Wajahat Bhai Once a Staunch CHEERLEADER OF THE BOYS……..turned ROGUE…..great analysis though
Shukr
Conclusion:- Generals rule the Pakistan and be calm it’s nothing new in history just we were ignorant for several decades.
My father was Adjutant 8 Baluch during the war 71, and later POW! Was Captain!
They also made MQM,they raised Bhutto!in case she forgot!
پاکستان کے خلاف بہت سارے محاز کھولے گئے۔ کچھ ہم نے خود کھولے اور کافی سارے ہمارے خلاف کھولے گئے۔
This statement says all in itself!
SO TRUE!!
Interesting information is shared by Dr. Ayesha in this Vlog.
But why a grade 22 officer should decide that who should rule the country. This is reason public is angry from Army, by this policy, Army will loose further support from public and it’s very dangerous.
One of the footage shows the window panes of guard room and main building were already broken when the first boys of the mob entered the CCH in Lahore.
I have new found respect for Ayesha Siddiqa - thank you Wajahat!
Amazing, this lady was defending Bajwa and co on ABC news Australia after the Operation Regime Change. She is so anti Imran that she can hug the Gens
Well Welll... Good to see that you called her on the show.... ❤ Keep it up WSJ
Very comprehensive and detailed dissection of a extremely complex situation
Thinking? Thinking is what they aren't capable of!
Wow, @Wajahat Sahib, your program is seriously mind-blowing! I totally think you should convert your place into a kickass podcast studio. You've got the potential to be the bilingual version of Joe Rogan, no offense to your already impressive resume. You've got mad connections, man. So, picture this: 2 to 3-hour sessions packed with awesome content and real talk, just like her. And let's not forget, you're an amazing listener too. You know exactly when to jump in and drop some wisdom. It's like an art, bro. MashAllah. Take care, stay blessed, and stay safe. Oh, by the way, I used to work at Shure, so hit me up if you need anything with that sweet employee discount.
Wajahat your English is excellent! You don't need to be nervous before anyone.
She is an Army person for sure & sugar-coated anti Imran....
On ground, right now, no one is more powerful than IK....
COAS knows IK can give him the unlimited power to control & he is a sensible man...
Her points were senseless
I have only just started listening to your vlogs (my Mrs suggested that I do😅), I am liking what I hear! Well done n keep it up!
Your analysis at the end and ISPR statement points toward the theory that all these installations were damaged deliberately, with the help of ISI.
Wajahat my friend, I have been watching all of your shows, this very show was outstanding
Zaheer
Very thought provoking and in my view the best podcast so far. Explaining the politics of Army with facts and history rather than mere bashing like by Adil raja. However he has is own place and l watch him usually when l am frustrated at the Army.
عائشہ صدیقہ کو سننا بڑے حوصلے کا کام ہے لیکن ان کا تجزیہ بہت بہترین ہے۔
Please ask her to speed up
Clearly this lady is a pro spin doctor. She effectively pitched that Nawaz Shareef tried to de-politicise army and didnt talk about "saada chief" mentality of Nawaz Shareef which is implemented even right now !
She is clearly down playing Imran Khan and spinning things.
Completely agree she disappointed me
100% She is KNOWN TO BE THE MOUTH PIECE of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI. Her opinion is tarnished and I wouldn't be surprised if she is on the payroll of shairf or Zadri
She scares me, like the devil in disguise
in all countries army chief is below PM, so what if NS wanted that way.
Your knowledge and her knowledge is on different level. Sometimes it is good to be humble and learn what she wants to say.
Abdul.Qadoos..sb.
Welcome.
Muneer cinc...has some..Merits..some Demerits...!!!
Imran .ko بھت زبردست ۔۔ صلح۔۔ کی پیش کش کی۔
Imran very Proud.
While she talks a lot of sense the one thing people like her cannot grasp is that Khan has genuine support on the ground. His support base has been increasing since 1996 every single year army did not help increase his support base
I think I am going to read her content now. Your content is seriously underrated brother with so much potential.
Thanks for this insightful episode.. looking forward to read her books.
They have to choose the right path in order to secure their position back......
میں اوورسیز پاکستاني ہوں، عمران خان نے مجھے اپنے ملک سے پیار اور محبت کرنا سکھایا ہے اور ہمارے اندر فخر ، ہمت ، وقار پیدا کیا ہے
IK Zindabad💪🇵🇰🦅..
Not even once this analyst mentioned that he was selected not only by BAJWA bug by NS also, this one fact adds lot of dimensions to the analysis. As a public health specialist I would say that the Data collection is all skewed.
You the real man…
Man From Michigan Yar lady is a professional problem creator she didn’t answer your questions since you are her admirer you accept her but you need her back in your blog and ask her your questions again 🎉
She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.
Absolutely right analysis by wajahat SB, infact security agencies given strong message to handlers and Chief justice about high pressure from public and uncontrolled panic situation in the country. so therefore finally supreme court intervene and realease to İmran Khan.
If it's true that CC Lahore has resigned for right reasons; I shall stand and solute him for his courage! May Allah protect our beloved country and guide people in the power corridors as well as all of us. May Allah give courage to all of us to change and fear Allah. "One hour in pursuit of justice is better than 70 years to worship of Allah by spending every day fasting and every night spent praying." Prophet Mohammad (pbuh).
With all due respect to her, the people came out to protest, because they love IK and not only because they were angry of their lot after IK's removal. He, IK, is now the center of their hopes.
At the time of attack, commander along with his family was present at his residence
I believe that Imran Khan was successful in becoming a politician or coming into power because of his reputation as an honest person and a world class athlete, military only assisted by getting him a fair elections to some extent.
Honorable Lady! Ayesha Saddiqa
In depth analysis as always, Wajahat Khan ❤
10:30 - Wajahat Ayesha absolutely right!
What is this lady saying. It almost sounds she is urging Asim Munir to continue this confrontation while PTI. She is saying in six months if Asim Munir develops confidence he will be able to stand up to Imran khan. She should be saying Asim Munir should work on how to control his army to make it a better and non political army
She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.
OTS doesn't matter when you become Full Colonel you're just like PMA guys!
Finally happy about your guest ! 😊
It's Time tio Go was Told by Gen Gul Hassan to Gen Yahya.
It's not a precedence, it has happened b4.
Thank you.
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One important fact is that Pakistan is ground for Global Big Game.
This aspect needs to be looked into.
This fact makes Pakistan a high security state.
We can't change our geography.
This factor of being the playing field for Big Game determines all.
Yesterday it was Soviet Union Vs USA.
Today it's US Vs China.
It's a major factor
Mr, Wajahat, This is called unbiased, academic and non-political analysis. Feel the difference.
Bilkul I agree with you
I love the country. People come and go. The reason I like IK is the only one among the political crowd who stands out as the an honest, truthful and sincere.
But he is the most corrupt. Also, he is not competent.
Dr ayesha siddiqua very calm and up to date analysis
Playing on both sides...well done sir
He has to - otherwise remember Arshad Sharif
She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.
@@nisardar2652that's not a 'HAS' it's a 'WANT' his someone who would like to keep GOD happy but also not piss off the devil.. and people like that can never be fully trusted
What a country! Army chief is on foreign visit, P.M is celebrating coronation of U.K king, foreign minister is always in foreign and country is burning.
Wajahat is on fire
Wazahat Sahab, the conclusions you've given - I doubt that few organizations within Pak Army are not going to buy it. However you have a good command in English.
Miss you Imran Riaz khan
Your this style of vlogs are awesome, bring in different types of intellectuals and getting there perspective. Keep it up WSK!
Dear Wajahat please post videos daily your voice is like music to our ears we love to hear you listen to you every single day
Are you gay?
You are doing great 👍🏼 Love from every patriot ❤️
میری ذاتی راۂے ھے پاکستان میں صرف خلائ مخلوق کو رھنے دیں ہم سب پاکستانی چاۂنہ شفٹ ھو جاتے ھیں۔
عام شہری
GOOD NIGHT
Thank u baji for ur LORI
Miss Ayesha siddiqa is negating her own argument. She is saying that the generals are not in asim Munir control because most of them were appointed by his predecessor and they were not in favor of the vote of no confidence while we all know that the vote of no confidence was initiated by general bajwa with the support of these generals... or were they from Yugoslavia at that time
She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.
U failed to mention that outsider elements create turmoil nor the Nation / pti Workers
Great analysis of current military scenario . Lets hope things get better.
As always you came up with the most relevant informative show. Boht kch smjhny ko sochny ko mila ha Thanks for that keep it up. 💯
Thanks ma'am you give us awareness through military Inc 🥰🥰🥰
Ayesha Siddiqa's replies and analysis appeared guarded and tactfully tailored for a mostly Pakistani audience.
Could the fire of Corps Commander house was a deliberate action by Rana Sana and the intelligence agencies inorder to discredit PTI
100% Mooed Prizada thinks soo
Imran Khan always showed - ve wisdom with Islamic touch.
Sir as you both said in the last about plan of coas. My question how they cover up sentiments of people? If they succeed to agree the institute.
Thank you Wajahat Bhai. Ayesha G column I never used to miss ❤
Allah Pakistan 🇵🇰 k dushmano ko garqh karay tabah karay ameen
Hahah what an irony..right now the army and the most popular guy are going against each other..so are these 2 the main enemies ??
I would love a follow up podcast with Ayesha siddiqa.
Wajahat is on fire today!! Good job
She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.
Insha Allah something good will happen
Sir Jee, who you have brought today. Unimpressive lady
She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.
Hi
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Aysha Siddiqa, says one thing then denies it. She said Asim Munir is not able to do what he wants within the Army, but then when questioned if AM doesn't have control, she said no she is not saying that. Then the Sahir Shamshad thing she wrote, she has denied, etc. Am not terribly impressed.