Russia doing 'terribly badly' in Ukraine as war economy causes problems for the Kremlin | Robert Fox
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- "Long term, Russia cannot go on at this level. It's consuming so much of its economy."
Putin's war is going "terribly badly" but Ukraine is showing signs of fatigue and "could crack", claims Defence Editor of the Evening Standard Robert Fox.
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Ukraine is fighting an existential war. Even if it bends, it won't break. Russia on the other hand has stretched its economy and society so far that it very well might.
I am Russian. And if people only knew what inflation we have and what it has done to pensioners😢
That's why Russia was doomed to failure before it started.
@@dpelpal Really???You are the victim? Nobody cares anymore until your CRIMELIN burns!!
@@dpelpal - shame - grow a spine
Even if Russia 'wins' in the short term, takes control of Ukraine, there are now generations of Ukrainians that are radicalised and will despise Russia and will demand an independent Ukraine.
Putin is an old man and will be dead and gone within a decade. The land of Ukraine is here to stay and no one in Ukraine will forget this invasion for many generations to come.
Zelensky was comedian. He turned Russia into one big joke😂
@Bootsa1727 He _did_ say "Kyiv three days". There are tons of clips
For a minute there you almost lost me.
@@govinda102000 You too are laughing at Rushin' army? 🤭
@@govinda102000are you lost? Follow Russian ship Moskva
@@alhambrabiker1476 Or the 27 other Rushin' ships Ukraine has now sunk😅
Block Orban at EU, and kick out Russia from UN Security Council…
Why, just because a few noobs cannot handle democracy?😂
They won't cos they are all cowards full of talk and f#$k all else
How I agree.
Unfortunately the UN was set up with this idea that important nations of the day like the UK and US and France etc... and the USSR would remain forever as important countries. That was short sighted, very short sighted, it worries me so many diplomats and politicians worldwide can be so wrong despite their knowledge... So Russia as a permanent member of the security council can't be removed.
Ditto .
Imagine deliberately targeting a children's hospital. Pure evil.
Слава Україні! 💙💛
Russia will have to pay for putin's crimes. Poland will take Kaliningrad Krolowiec and Finland will take back Carelia and china will take half sibir ...putin was catastrophic for russia. A free democratic russia will be after the fall of criminal dictator putin.
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How did they manage to do it with a Ukrainian SAM missile? Thats like double evil, making Ukraine hit their own hospital. So there were no military targets around then?
What state today doesn't target civilizations, hospitals and schools during war? It has been total since WWI.
With US SUPPORT!
Russian have US approval, and they confirm their actions.
Russian celebrate and laught at the naive... european NATO members ...
ALL damage is deliberate ever since the Czar invaded.
@@raymondg7565 Not to mention the world laughing at the Rushin' army🤭
@@dpelpal😅
I feel horrible for civilians 😢
There must be different measures of bravado in Russia. I don't see how bombing a children's hospital and medical clinic makes you look like a winner. Its quite shameful and unbecoming of a civilized nation.
Russia is not civilized.
I don't understand the purpose
Russia is not a civilised nation. It is one small step up from serfdom.
ruzzia is not a 'civilised country', it is a medieval dictatorship.
NATO calls this sort of thing 'collateral damage'. It was a phrase cin constant use during the wars in the M.E. especially with Obama's drone program that would hit weddings and funnerals.
If Russia has 18 months, then Ukraine needs a commitment from the West etc. for five times that.
Possibly, although from what I've seen, just a commitment of 12 months would probably be enough for Ukraine to grind Russia to a defeat, because as Russias economy is cracking and it's stockpiles grow empty, it'll lose a lot of it's pushing power on the frontlines, esspecially as Ukraine seems to keep chipping away at Russias fleet of glide bomb carrying aircraft (F16s will expedite that massively).
After that, Ukraine seems to be on rather solid ground in terms of it's domestic production of stuff like drones, which are effective enough to enable them to hold territory quite well.
Combined, if the prediction is accurate (and 18 months is actually on the long end for Russias economy breaking, although it's about on track for running it's stockpiles dry) then Ukraine could probably hold on the remaining 8 months and keep hitting Russias economic stuff during that time.
But don't worry, from what I've seen, a lot of Eastern European countries are committed to supplying Ukraine artillery shells for at least 2 years, with production ramping up significantly, which is definitely long enough to grind Russia into giving up all the territory they've stollen.
Waste of money
@CountDuckEgg
You would rather let Russia conquer Ukraine so that then Russian imperialist forces continue further west and invade a NATO country so that NATO countries are at full scale war with Russia which will cost a heck of a lot more money and will mean casualties of NATO soldiers?
That's a really strange, illogical attitude.
Why would you want to spend even more money later on and have NATO casualties and sacrifice Ukraine in the process instead of saving money and lives by stopping Russian forces now in Ukraine?
You sound like someone who would refuse to pay to fix a hole in your house even though it's going to cost you much more money later to repair the damage caused when rain and animals go through the hole into your house.
@@CountDuckEgg You mean, just like the war against the Nazis!
@@geofflepper3207 I don't care at all about Ukraine. Ukraine is supposed to be a 'sovereign, independent' country. It can defend itself.
A Sudetenland peace is no peace at all. We should have learned that by now.
There's no more reason to take Western promises seriously than there is to take Russia's. So only material guarantees of security are viable.
NATO seriously needs to up its game and get its assorted industry to start pumping out ammo and kit as if its going out of style.... cos if they don't Russia will just see that as a green light to do whatever they like.
Absolument vrai !
@@mickelodiansurname9578 agree totally
Count down for crimean bridge
Count down for criminal dictator putin
Hysterical.
@@walterbenja7052 😂 COPE dude ...the bridge is fine
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qrI wonder what it must be like to wake up each day as a Russian bot, knowing you have no soul.
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qri am sure your real name is Ivan Putinov Russian Bot
@@realitycheck4156 That's old and boring dude lol...I'm Greek. Ivan is not a Greek name! sorry to disappoint you
“The Kyiv regime” really????
I stopped listening after he uttered that sentence.
@@andyb6866 he lost all credibility at that point, from “pessimist” to Russian shill in a phrase.
Yep, it's a regime without democratic legitimacy because the Cokehead of Kiev refuses to hold elections.
Regime doesn't really have any connotations in proper usage, he is probably just posh.
@@bevgroves8062 he means the "current" Kyiv regime, it's like saying the Washington regime. Referring to the current administration.
Despite the massive stockpile of Soviet weapons and putting the economy on a war footing, Russia is being pummeled by a much smaller army
Wake up people! It's 1938 again.
And the US has a choice of Chamberlain or Mussolini.
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Agreed. The world is sleep walking into another world war.
Zelensky used to be a comedian and became a serious politician. Putin was a serious politician and became a joke.
Putinowsky has never been serious ... he was lying from the beginning as learned at the secret service ... liying deceiving denying ... nothing more to say😎
Serious politician that ruined his own country with fertility rate near 0.78 pear woman, millions migrants with low chance to return and hungeds thousents of dead and wounded. Very serious politician
@@xuzisnwn talking about Russia?
@@xuzisnwnputin this that to them
Russia lost on day one. Now they're just deciding on how much they want to bleed before they give up and retreat.
Such as in Kherson and Kharkiv, and Kyiv. Now Russia lose Vovchansk.
Imagine, Russia 20 times larger than Ukraine, has lost 550,000 men, cannot even take 10% of second poorest country in Europe😂
@@dpelpaltheir incompetence is legendary
@@tomw.6757 Russian army is now laughed at the world over lol.
Not as much as TR
@@stu281 I am Russian live Samara. Do you know what it's like living in a country with people laughing at your army? Russian army is mixture of old alcoholics and loser without job. This is why Russia has now lost half the land they had in Ukraine since 2022.
Why are we allowing Russia to get away with this?? WHY???😡😡😡😡😡
They don't need our permission and we can't do anything about it anyway.
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I feel so sad for the innocent ppl n babies
Everyone does this, nothing new. US and Israel have done the same.
This war started in 2014
Initiated by azov brigade (Ukraine)
Where will Putin be stopped if not in Ukraine?
Slava Ukraine! 💙💛💙💛💙💛❤❤
Героям сала
He’s desperate for a ceasefire. That’s why he “offered” Ukraine to end hostilities if they agreed to give up the occupied territories. And when that ridiculous gambit didn’t work, he sent Orban to meet with Zelenskyy.
False. Russia is crushing the Ukrainian military. Ukraine has lost 500,000 dead, Russia less that 80,000. Putin gave them one last chance to negotiate, and it was refused. Now Ukraine will be destroyed and it’s their fault for refusing multiple offers of a peaceful solution by Russia. The next move will be Russia forcing the complete surrender by Ukraine.
Russia just passed Japan as the 4th biggest economy in the world and getting stronger. Their military has tripled in size. Russia has always been winning, and now they have won.
And that didn work either. So yet another $1 billion missile barrage with a little dramatic and sensationalist effect.
not just occupied territory; the "offer" was for Ukraine to give up even more than what is occupied.
Putin should not wish to ever cross my path
i really hope this nato conference will unshackle Ukraine's ability to defend iteself and ffs biden grow some cojones and stop tip toing around russia,
He's waiting till after the election.
@@nicocrestmere9688 i hope so really do
Amen to that !
I feel bad for all the people and children in this war 😢
Ukraine has motivation on its side.
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He is living in the past and out of touch with reality
This is one of the few shows I can watch without getting stomach cramps because the linguistic abilities are such that the host and interviewees actually use proper grammar, thank you Times it's respite for me
Wanna buy my bridge?
Stop Putin now
The problem is not matter how badly Russia is doing, its still keeping on 'doing'.....obviously it has a much larger appetite for pain.
Russia had its first 1917 revolution less than three years into WW1.
Maybe the Russian people are not willing to put up with this amount of suffering due to a pointless war for a full three years without revolting.
Of course it's true that Russia stayed in WW1 after the first revolution but still the second 1917 revolution indicated that the Russian people really start getting upset when a pointless war goes past three years.
Maybe that suggests the possibility of a Russian revolution by late next spring if the war is still going on at that point.
Another winter of Russians freezing in the dark in their apartments is not going to make them happy.
I feel bad for innocent victims esp children 😢
Going down the toilet bowl.
Toilet bowl looted from Ukraine.
trump is the toilet, the sewer
NATO is a snivelling child,the Ukrainians are magnificent.
No not really, NATO does. It have a mandate to get involved directly. Ukrainians though are indeed magnificent 👍
Good clip. Thought-provoking questions and answers. Fox lays out some of the underlying basics very well.
I used to read Robert Fox in the Independent. A great journalist. Honest, truthful and incisive. Many journalists could learn from him. Pity that many don't.
Hahahaha, because the truth is 180 degrees different.
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White 💙💛
Why Ukraine lost. American politics of old men
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Mark Rutte, not an old man, but very very experienced and quite an old fox. So an old man in other words.
Not when compared to Biden and Trump - he's 57. I think to be an old man you need to be in your 70s and there are plenty of 70 year olds fitter and sharper than people in their 30s.
Mark Rutte is easy to underestimate is what he is trying to say.
Trump whistler
Weeks away, really?😂
Such ignorance with such certainty
Russia doing terribly badly? Really?
This channel and its hysterical fanfic is always good for a chuckle.
Thanks!
Why separate US and NATO if it is the same thing. Where does the money come from mainly for NATO?
1000+ men per day to get a half kilo. will the men run out before the land runs out?
I suggest you bust out a calculator. At the current rate, Russia can keep going for hundreds of years... well... if we entirely ignore economic needs for a labor force etc.
Anyway, the point is they aren't running out of men anytime soon.
They will run out of money long before they run out of people.
You are correct they won't run out of men, however most of the deaths on the russian side consist of actual military personnel and maybe some reserve soldiers. It will at some point result to more drafted working men who are less capable and experienced in war, it is starting to near that point as there have been quite a few mobilisations in Russia over the past year r@@a5cent
@@a5cent Russia has a male population crisis and this is why Putin is trying to bring in a law for women to have children. 500K soldiers either dead or badly wounded. They will not be having kids, paying tax. This is Russias problem as their reserves are running out. They may not run out of men soon however their economy will be in ruins. When the war is over they will have to pay massive amounts of money to compensate Ukraine. Let’s also not forget that winter is coming and at the rate Russia is loosing refining capacity they are going to suffer somewhat.
I am confident because of what is at stake. NATO won't let Ukrain lose.
US would, creating their superior ubermench... collonial identity.
i really hope you are right
they also are not giving them enough to win
@ganrimmonim
Not much is at stake for NATO for Russia however it is, we have one side having nothing to lose and the other that have everything to loose, you high expectations of NATO would only be true if Russia actully went on invading more countries, Ukraine alone is not that much of power grab
“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous." George Orwell.
Actually, Putin can’t afford for the war to continue. He desperately wants a ceasefire without offering anything.
"The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." Oscar Wilde.
“The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie.¨ Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn
@@boink800 so clearly you're against MAGA idiocy and the coming Trump kleptocracy? Wise man....
Gaaaaaahhhh why are we STILL going on about giving him what he wants followed by but what if he doesn't stop? Sooooo frustrating SOOOOO dull.
Terribly badly is a double adjective.
This war won’t go 18 months
Oh I believe it will last at least another two years.
How many times have we heard that now? I've lost count.
6 months from now this war ends from inside Russia when it’s house of cards collapse, it will happen when winter comes
yes it will
It will go until November when trump hands Putin the win
To hear you radio commentators from the UK speaking about NATO and the Ukraine war as well as China's presence near Taiwan, You seem to only discuss the US and our intentions and don't include your own in the UK?! You are our closest ally and part of the five eyes and part of NATO and have just as much to lose with Taiwan being taken over as we do
Well, that was interesting 👍🇺🇦🇮🇪🇺🇦
It is still baffling that Ukraine rejected two squadrons of Australian FA-18s two years ago. It was an autonomous Air Force with no restrictions on where or how the planes could be used.
It would take to long to learn them to fly.
@@MathyBoonen Same time as learning to fly an F-16, and they were ready a year before any F-16s were confirmed for Ukraine.
@@seanlander9321 we have ukr. Pilots for 2years now in training now. They didn´t know anything about flying this kind off plane. Shows how advanced they are compared to any su fighter they flew before. And those planes f16 or f18 need a big maintenace crew.
@@MathyBoonen Yep, the maintenance training and training equipment were all part of the Australian package, same with spares. The point is though that Australia hasn’t put any restrictions on donated weapons, whereas the F-16’s won’t be allowed over the Ukrainian border to tackle the Russian planes dropping glide bombs. So wouldn’t it have been smarter for Ukraine to have FA-18s without restrictions too, particularly since they have asked Washington for older versions for ground attack?
@@seanlander9321 i didn´t know australia donated crews also. My bad. Maybe the f16 is easyer than the f18? Don´t really know. All i know is that belgium and the netherlands are renewing their air force. So we have a lot off f16 that can be donated.
"Terribly badly" 🤣
Fox is grandstanding, but reading tea leaves. Where's Michael Clarke?
Yah that massive breakthrough the Russians made was just a tactical mistake by the Ukrainians 😂
What the one that floundered in Kharkiv? Yeah that's going GREAT
@@RockinDave1 a stoped advance doesn’t negate the breakthrough. The Ukrainians still lost a lot of ground.
@@Bunny-658Which Ukraine are now retaking, WITHOUT the massive losses that Russia took. Cope.
@@LL-vy5bj they aren’t though, the counter offensive failed.
Yeah they broke through but what use has it been to them? They failed to get their artillery within range of Kharkiv which was the main objective short of retaking Kharkiv itself, and it has also cost them far more than those square miles are worth militarily
They have struggled for many years without any significant improvement. I believe the Russians can sink to exceptionally low levels, as it seems ingrained in their culture.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 the western media coping bigtime
We have failed Ukraine. The US policy of giving too little, too late is proving to be the failure it was destined to be.
Has Ruble turned into Rubble yet? 😂😂
Yer Rasputin is doing very badly God is definitely not on his side ….
Despite your headline being an actual quote, I don’t think it represents the conversation in this video well…
If you ever heard the story about brother rabit and the tar baby Putin reminds me of brother rabit 😅😅
Looking forward to hearing from all those Reform voters about how Farage is right about praising Putin for being a "great operator". What a shower they all are
Arguing that the Nordic governments are "not that strong" may be true, but the attitude of staying within NATO will not change, regardless of who steers the ships.
They got about 18 months left he says. They said similar statements at the start if the war. How about making it so i can see a doctor in under a month in canada instead of starting ww3.
Heard all this before and Russia are still attacking.
Everyone is flexing their muscles other than Europe and the USA. Is it any wonder we are were we are. Will this Labour party step up to the plate?.
Everyone with a bit of brains knows that if Europe shows its muscles again and in unity nontheless, the world bleeds. Very few people in the Old World are truly into that.
😂😂😂😂😂 Oh, really? 🤓🤓🤓🤓
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
I've always enjoyed Times Radio's authoritative commentary on Ukraine, however, I switched off when I saw Adam Boulton. If I told you what I thought of him, the comment would be deleted by U tube.
Fox has got it. He understands the situation as well as anyone does.
Perhaps but his information about Trump is outdated. The US media is making Trump look like a winner but he's more of a whiner and losing quickly. Biden has appeared in public 18 times in the last few weeks. Trump has held "rallies" to sparse crowds who tend to leave after a few minutes because all he does is talk about himself and how badly he was treated. I have yet to hear one good thing he intends to do for the American people.
@@acreguy3156 Thanks for the update!
@@robinstevenson6690 Glad to help, Robin 👍.
Where is all your information coming from. = The Kremlin ?
8:38 Why do we have to watch an old man drinking?
Question please. Ukraine has control over its air space, that been the same as any other country. Therefore has it not the legal right to protect the same by inviting outside agents to launch missiles into its own airspace from outside it's borderline?.
For a country to be proud of the fact that they bombed a children’s hospital is truly saying something. I mean, I wouldn’t expect anything less from the same people that called invading the country that they invaded over two years ago a special military operation and said it would only take 10 days, but Ukraine still standing after two years the desperation is truly showing for Russia. Rest in peace to all of those poor victims, and may Ukraine have justice for them and everyone else the Russians have brutally murdered and their needless conquest for land that was never Russias to begin with
Doesn't understamd the situation if he thi ks Ukraine will break.
Yeah, he is speaking from someone that has live a life of privilege and safety. The Ukrainian people don't have the luxury of just giving up. They know what awaits them if they allow Russians to take control of their country.
Chamberlain is still hovering in the UK
Russia never had a chance.
By God we need to rebuild our armed services! We’re so busy selling stuff around the world that we’ve mistaken that for capability. We need personnel and top of the line vehicles and hardware, urgently!
Russia cant carry on like this forever but these people know absolutely nothing more than anyone else does...
Russia has been doing bad for how many years now?
Ukraine: Help! I’m winning!
Two and a half. The chairwoman of the central bank confirmed it. High interest rates/inflation. Low foreign investment/ Severe labor shortages. It's always the economy which lets down your ambitions.
@@stephenhill545 Really? Because I'm seeing the complete opposite. I'm also looking at nonbiased sources.
What are his credentials? What’s his pedigree? He has a way of weaving an odd propagandistic tale that I find disquieting.
You know what im done there is nothing that can ne said
What does Labour`s win mean for Ukraine?Will they be getting more support from the UK or less?
Same.
Starmer, in my opinion is a very weak man. What has he done whilst in opposition. Zero😮
Not as bad as Ukraine 😅
Were is the aid.f16 s time to get thumb out of your arss NOTO😡
f16s don't fly themselves you know, what do you want NATO to do?
Well Until Both Ukraine and Russia get to the peace table then this war will amount casualties for years to come, and neither side will run out of equipment and men needed Ukraine will get US Troops and Russia will get Chinese Troops. 50 years later it will still be broadcast here
Seems Russia has been defeating NATO in Ukraine terribly badly for the last couple of years.
If ukraine does not prevail what does it mean? It means, that even with all the American and Western arms, America and it's allies cannot defeat Russia. God help us !. At least I can speak a little Russian.
Terribly badly but occupies 30% of Ukraine's territory.
Occupancy is not free. Each time a cost is paid, the governed become either less willing to support or more hostile toward the current regime. Despite two years, Russia has yet to demonstrate a capability to conduct a coherent plan of action able to gain significant territory. Ultimately these cost have already relegated Russia from a first tier power (though they really were not initially). It has destroyed the future of its arms export industry - removed the ability to obtain full market price for resources and decimated an already extremely small demographic cohort. From a pure "power play" perspective, this move was a decade too early, but some leaders want to see results in their lifetime, so here we are. And even if successful, the gain of territory does not materially improve their future, just ensures the seeds of a future civil war because if there was not an Ukrainian identity in the past (which is a false assertion), there is one now as a result of the war. And future occupancy will always come with a fight for a solid decade to come. When a country starts a war it cannot finish - it is indeed going terribly badly.
@opieg7333
It will be extremely terribly bad to believe war casualties are only one-sided. Those pushing and feeding Ukraine to extinction sleep very soundly in their bed 1000s of miles away. Do not forget Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the whole of Central America. These, too, were made to believe they were being driven to better way of life instead of total apocalypse.
This war will be won and lost by economic factors. As the cold war was.
The copium in this comment section is hilarious
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You’ve been saying this for years. It still isn’t true.
That Biden comment is just ridiculous.
Its obvious that the Biden administration has promised weapons systems BUT has slow walked actual delivery. That's because Democrats want a negotiation solution not a war winner solution.
Ukraine ❤👍👍
I do not agree with a lot of what was said here,
Particularly about China attacking Taiwan by 2027
And also Re Trump been reelected
As well as his view on Ukraind cracking.
Hmmmmm
Straight propaganda
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Robert Fox, just another in a long line of Russian appeasers, this mans has past his usefulness.🙃
yup...if you're going to talk on the radio, be sure to maintain poor posture and keep covering your mouth with your fingers as you speak.