3 entire minutes of pain and suffering, and then when the Picardy Third happened in the last chord I was so caught off-guard. I felt disoriented yet satisfied. Through the entire journey of turmoil, it somehow took me to a happy place in the very last moment. Perhaps it's symbolic of a depressed person's life before they ultimately give in, and is released from the torture through the gift of death itself. I love Chopin's music.
I’m having a very hard day today and was craving to hear this. I’d forgotten about the major cadence at the end, which was so reminiscent of Bach’s keyboard works, always ending in major, even though the entire piece was in minor. This chord was the symbol of hope. Yes, I needed to hear this piece for comfort and melancholy, but then needed to be reminded that there is always hope. There is always tomorrow. And there is always light after darkness. Thank you Chopin for giving this piece to the world.
It's the phrase "on the verge of tears" that evokes the emotion, because right when the tears start is generally when the emotion is the strongest, after which the tears are merely an indicator that you have felt something thus continuing only because you have started. Once this has passed you eventually forget why and unless you can remember you stop.
@@Roescoe to be more precise, the emotion is strongest right before the tears start because once they do, they have a "cleaning" effect that helps reducing sadness and calms the mind.
I love it, Pollini has not so dark character in his touch and way of playing, it makes it sound unusual. Interesting mix, sadness, melancholy, even sorrow with brightness and agility.
I'm learning this piece right now, I love it! It has such lovely tone color. I also like the use of chromatics within the middle sections of the piece. It really prolongs the modulation from e-flat minor into E major.
Yes same. I just learned that piece. Technically not challenging... but musically its Such a difficult piece. The pain and sorrow through the piece which ends with a glimps of hope... Just amazing
I also started to play it today. I didn’t come very far, but i will continue practicing. I just finished the nocturne op 48 no 1. This one was difficult 😮💨
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Talvez, o mais expressivo, denso, peculiar e profundamente solitário de todos os estudos do Mestre.
It's a song with a depressing and lyrical melody reminiscent of Nocturne. I think Pollini is a very good representation of this subtlety. It requires sensitive and delicate touches, which Pollini did very well.
the thing is that all of you are wrong because keys don't have much of a specific feeling across everything. For chopin, maybe Eb minor is like satan's key. Not for everyone though, so no, Eb minor is not satan's key. Besides, if it was, satan wouldn't believe in superstition.
Much like op 48 no 2, you can really feel Chopin's pain and despair in this piece. To me, this piece is pain that turns into anger and chaos, before realizing that the pain still persists regardless of the defense mechanism.
I wish I knew what you meant. How do you guys related all this to this music? In cinematic music, the emotions are more pronounced, and whatever else is done to it so it's obvious to the untrained ear. But classical music - most of us laymen just hear beautiful music, not stories. How do people do this?
@@rudrarudram937 Well, I can't speak for others. But I can answer your question from my own perspective. First of all, I want you to remember that music is art, and that there is no "right" way to interpret it. Obviously there is the interpretation that the creator had in mind. However, I would wager my description matches pretty closely with Chopin's intentions. And I seriously doubt anybody would interpret this piece as anything but sad or melancholic. To answer your question, I do have a personality trait that makes me more sensitive to sensory input, it's kind of a curse at times but I feel like perhaps I might feel the music on a "deeper" level than the average person and thus it maybe tends to have a greater emotional impact on me. But ultimately, as I was alluding to in the previous sentence, it mostly comes from my emotions, when I listen to Chopin's music it really triggers something inside me, and for several classical piano pieces there are times where I cannot put words to the feelings that the piece invokes, it's just too ineffable. This piece is very sad, it's the more ambiguous pieces that are hard to interpret. I feel like this is probably one of the reasons I like Chopin so much, I relate to the feelings of despair and hopelessness, albeit our very different circumstances. I also have read a fair bit about Chopin and his life, and I know he was in poor health for pretty much his entire life & suffered greatly, so his feelings were expressed through the piano notes. TL;DR: Music is art, interpret it as you deem fit. My emotional intuition is the main driving force for how I feel during a piece, although as I said, sometimes that feeling is just ineffable.
I believe you meant the op.48 no.1, the nocturne in c minor. Unless you actually meant the op.48 no.2, nocturne in f-sharp minor. If you did mean 48-2, I apologize in advance. For me, I can feel similar pain in 48-1, especially during the 'Doppio movimento', marked with 'agitato'.
I am trying to learn this before I start piano lessons this fall. I need to learn how to play piano. I've played guitar for almost 8 and a half years and this piano etude and other works like this are what touch my soul the deepest
While this etude is dark just like the A minor and E minor preludes, there is a struggle and fight towards a resolution and light which is reached at the end whereas the preludes to me are suffocating in their bleakness.
you're right, anyone can do it, but not over the course of a few months...I have a knack for music too. :) It's been awhile since you posted your original comment, can you play this yet? Prolly not. Definitely. Relax, virtuosos aren't made in a year! Not even Chopin. :) Be patient, you'll get it one day!
Nope. I have a knack for picking up musical instruments and figuring pieces out. I never went into lessons, but I have a decent hang on this. I imagine my technique on piano is just fucking awful, but it sounds alright. I just wish I had the sort of expression that Pollini has (now that there would be some wishful thinking). I think anyone can play advanced works if they just know how to properly practice and do it a lot. It's something I learned from my years as a guitar player and instructor.
The time signature is 6/8. 2-in-a-bar. The score is marked 69 dotted crotchets per minute: Andante.This is less than half speed. This sounds like Largo! Molto lugubre.
Well, I can tell you what I responded to: It said that the first time (s)he listened to this etude it almost went unnoticed; (s)he didn't pay much attention to it, but then as time went by it became one if his/her favorites; that it was almost natural at first to be dazzled by so many other etudes, like op. 10 n°3, n°4, n°12 but then you can't help it but being captivated by this one.
I literally had the same thoughts. I like all the Etudes especially no. 3. As time went on, this one started to grow onto me a lot. Now I'm listening to it over and over again and have started learning it.
Yeah sure you can probably play it but its an ARCT piece from what I remember. I would personally just for some Chopin preludes or Liszt consolations or liebestraum.
@Barrack Obama Vlogs He wanted his music to be played as he wrote it. When Liszt added his own embellishments to one of Chopin's pieces, Chopin was mad.
@@afriendlymusician3829 I believe that was because Liszt added ornaments to a nocturne (or another lyrical piece) to make it more virtuosic, while Chopin preferred the poeticness of the piece, so he wanted the notes to be played like he intended it (imo Chopin's lyrical pieces always use less=more). I like to believe that Chopin didn't care about strict tempo so much, but more about making the music speak (without using extreme rubato, Chopin didn't like that)
don't you hate when you click on (Show the comment) and the comment doesn't exist anymore? and then people thumb up the reply comment and you have no idea what the response was to? and you might as well go along and thumb up the reply comment because you just want to agree with everyone else? and isn't it even stranger when the comment I am writing right now gets thumbed up because people agree with me?
3 entire minutes of pain and suffering, and then when the Picardy Third happened in the last chord I was so caught off-guard. I felt disoriented yet satisfied. Through the entire journey of turmoil, it somehow took me to a happy place in the very last moment. Perhaps it's symbolic of a depressed person's life before they ultimately give in, and is released from the torture through the gift of death itself.
I love Chopin's music.
Okay this comment is really good
But if you are a Christian, you are out of luck; death is no gift in comparison to the infinite torture in hell that immediately follows.
@@TheRojo387 even if you are a Christian and believe that there is no hell, it doesnt matter what you believe.
So the Christians Will be just fine
@@TheRojo387 I personally believe that God brings everyone into heaven
I’m having a very hard day today and was craving to hear this. I’d forgotten about the major cadence at the end, which was so reminiscent of Bach’s keyboard works, always ending in major, even though the entire piece was in minor. This chord was the symbol of hope. Yes, I needed to hear this piece for comfort and melancholy, but then needed to be reminded that there is always hope. There is always tomorrow. And there is always light after darkness.
Thank you Chopin for giving this piece to the world.
Almost in tears listening this.. Chopin's soul was here...
Why do people are always only "almost" in tears, according to their post ?? Did you never cry listening a piece or what ?
It's the phrase "on the verge of tears" that evokes the emotion, because right when the tears start is generally when the emotion is the strongest, after which the tears are merely an indicator that you have felt something thus continuing only because you have started. Once this has passed you eventually forget why and unless you can remember you stop.
@@Roescoe to be more precise, the emotion is strongest right before the tears start because once they do, they have a "cleaning" effect that helps reducing sadness and calms the mind.
@@vincent-ataramaniko Lol wow I guess I wrote that 3 years ago, still is true, a strange thing to say, but true.
@@Roescoe not a strange thing to say imo. I found what you wrote very true and interesting.
I feel the pain thru this... 200 years later world changed shit changed but the emotions are still the same
I love it, Pollini has not so dark character in his touch and way of playing, it makes it sound unusual. Interesting mix, sadness, melancholy, even sorrow with brightness and agility.
this one makes me sob, you can literally feel the pain within the first 10 seconds
!! That last note is a tear drop landing on clay. What ecstacy.
An absolute hammer. How modern is this! An Chopin wrote it when he was 20!!
Chopin, amazing genius! Beaultiful and complex.
I'm learning this piece right now, I love it! It has such lovely tone color. I also like the use of chromatics within the middle sections of the piece. It really prolongs the modulation from e-flat minor into E major.
Yes same.
I just learned that piece. Technically not challenging... but musically its Such a difficult piece.
The pain and sorrow through the piece which ends with a glimps of hope... Just amazing
I also started to play it today. I didn’t come very far, but i will continue practicing. I just finished the nocturne op 48 no 1. This one was difficult 😮💨
Talvez, o mais expressivo, denso, peculiar e profundamente solitário de todos os estudos do Mestre.
It's a song with a depressing and lyrical melody reminiscent of Nocturne. I think Pollini is a very good representation of this subtlety. It requires sensitive and delicate touches, which Pollini did very well.
Chopin was very disturbed. I hope he replace his pain in heaven.
if i could play Chopin on piano i don't think i'd be showing up for work anymore.........
How's Chopin going now?
So can you play chopin now ?
@@levraidunoobHe's a very famous pianist now. I just came back from his concert.
This makes me feel uneasy and paranoid...................
Op. 25 no. 7 is also delightful...
If Satan had a key, it would be Eb minor.
I get it.
You know? Chopin's the devil trill prelude?
Egg MCMUFFIN To me, it’s like a crimson orange, but ranging to almost pinkish red or maroon.
the thing is that all of you are wrong because keys don't have much of a specific feeling across everything. For chopin, maybe Eb minor is like satan's key. Not for everyone though, so no, Eb minor is not satan's key.
Besides, if it was, satan wouldn't believe in superstition.
Daybrink He was expressing his opinion. Like you said, it might not be everybody’s, but it’s still his.
Juan Santos I’d correct your spelling, but I know phones are pieces of shit to type on.
Much like op 48 no 2, you can really feel Chopin's pain and despair in this piece. To me, this piece is pain that turns into anger and chaos, before realizing that the pain still persists regardless of the defense mechanism.
I wish I knew what you meant. How do you guys related all this to this music? In cinematic music, the emotions are more pronounced, and whatever else is done to it so it's obvious to the untrained ear. But classical music - most of us laymen just hear beautiful music, not stories. How do people do this?
@@rudrarudram937 Well, I can't speak for others. But I can answer your question from my own perspective.
First of all, I want you to remember that music is art, and that there is no "right" way to interpret it. Obviously there is the interpretation that the creator had in mind. However, I would wager my description matches pretty closely with Chopin's intentions. And I seriously doubt anybody would interpret this piece as anything but sad or melancholic.
To answer your question, I do have a personality trait that makes me more sensitive to sensory input, it's kind of a curse at times but I feel like perhaps I might feel the music on a "deeper" level than the average person and thus it maybe tends to have a greater emotional impact on me.
But ultimately, as I was alluding to in the previous sentence, it mostly comes from my emotions, when I listen to Chopin's music it really triggers something inside me, and for several classical piano pieces there are times where I cannot put words to the feelings that the piece invokes, it's just too ineffable. This piece is very sad, it's the more ambiguous pieces that are hard to interpret. I feel like this is probably one of the reasons I like Chopin so much, I relate to the feelings of despair and hopelessness, albeit our very different circumstances.
I also have read a fair bit about Chopin and his life, and I know he was in poor health for pretty much his entire life & suffered greatly, so his feelings were expressed through the piano notes.
TL;DR: Music is art, interpret it as you deem fit. My emotional intuition is the main driving force for how I feel during a piece, although as I said, sometimes that feeling is just ineffable.
I believe you meant the op.48 no.1, the nocturne in c minor. Unless you actually meant the op.48 no.2, nocturne in f-sharp minor.
If you did mean 48-2, I apologize in advance. For me, I can feel similar pain in 48-1, especially during the 'Doppio movimento', marked with 'agitato'.
@@jiyoukang660 I was talking about 48/2 but you could say the exact same thing about 48/1
@@ihateslopers4694 aha, I see.
The real challenge is that winding middle voice!! Just learned this etude this semester and I’m doing it for our recital!
What level is this piece?
@@walidkeyrouz2434 RCM ARCT, Henle level 7
@@walidkeyrouz2434 Henle 7 kind of.
I am trying to learn this before I start piano lessons this fall. I need to learn how to play piano. I've played guitar for almost 8 and a half years and this piano etude and other works like this are what touch my soul the deepest
I also studied guitar and I'm a self-taught pianist 😁
So... You learnt it?
Dude this is a hard piece.
@@k123ason not really
@@leo17921 if you play it like it is written yes it is a hard piece.
Alguna vez me aprendí este estudio y nunca olvidaré las sensaciones que experimenté al interpretarlo. u_u
Me pasa igual es maravilloso
While this etude is dark just like the A minor and E minor preludes, there is a struggle and fight towards a resolution and light which is reached at the end whereas the preludes to me are suffocating in their bleakness.
Many thanks!! Voted up and subscribed
Wonderful music !!!!!
I feel like Chopin wrote this about his hallucinations.
uff, Chopin tenía sentimientos muy intensos..
you're right, anyone can do it, but not over the course of a few months...I have a knack for music too. :)
It's been awhile since you posted your original comment, can you play this yet? Prolly not. Definitely. Relax, virtuosos aren't made in a year! Not even Chopin. :) Be patient, you'll get it one day!
Hey
Nope. I have a knack for picking up musical instruments and figuring pieces out. I never went into lessons, but I have a decent hang on this. I imagine my technique on piano is just fucking awful, but it sounds alright. I just wish I had the sort of expression that Pollini has (now that there would be some wishful thinking).
I think anyone can play advanced works if they just know how to properly practice and do it a lot. It's something I learned from my years as a guitar player and instructor.
RIP Maestro Pollini 🥀
You can really hear the influence of J.S Bach in this etude i think.Partly because of that repeated sequential pattern.Chopin adored Bach.
That sequential pattern isn’t just in this etude but in all of his etudes.
@@juanramonsilva1067 ALL?! Really?! are you sure about that!?? :-)
@@fennelleastman8816 Yes. If you find one that doesn’t use sequential patterns please let me know :)
I wonder if Chopin knew about Schubert's g-flat major impromptu when he wrote this.
Likely he did not. Just a guess
@stefanstern7851 Chopin knew who Schubert was, but I don't think he really admired him.
1:46 - 2:12 wow
мой самый любимый и загадочный этюд Шопена!
Желаете ли ещё послушать Шопена? 😁 ruclips.net/video/EPTVEiQL4FY/видео.html
The time signature is 6/8. 2-in-a-bar. The score is marked 69 dotted crotchets per minute: Andante.This is less than half speed. This sounds like Largo! Molto lugubre.
Valentina Lisitsa and Vladimir Horowitz play it even slower.
Well, I can tell you what I responded to: It said that the first time (s)he listened to this etude it almost went unnoticed; (s)he didn't pay much attention to it, but then as time went by it became one if his/her favorites; that it was almost natural at first to be dazzled by so many other etudes, like op. 10 n°3, n°4, n°12 but then you can't help it but being captivated by this one.
I literally had the same thoughts. I like all the Etudes especially no. 3. As time went on, this one started to grow onto me a lot. Now I'm listening to it over and over again and have started learning it.
Chopin operate in difficult keys often like in op25 nr6
나는 쇼튀드 중에 딴 곡보다 이게 제일 좋음.. 25-5번이랑
와 진심 공감
Beautiful!
Eb minor is my favorite key ngl
He is completely ignoring the metronome indication. Why? Because playing this in Single Beat absolutely doesn't make sense.
Rip Pollini
Mesure 8 Pollini joue un do bécarre deuxième accord de main droite et qui est la bonne harmonie.
negli studi è insuperabile
sgheez sei un grande
Più op. 10 che 25
Tanks adam neely also this comment ruins 69 comments :(
What video?
Bruno Neureiter dont remember
anyone think i can approach after just reaching level 10 RCM repertoire?
Yeah sure you can probably play it but its an ARCT piece from what I remember. I would personally just for some Chopin preludes or Liszt consolations or liebestraum.
You definitely can.
Torrents of Spring. 1989
Pollini n.1
irraggiungibile bellezza.
Why is it that minor tonalities inspire sadness, melancholy, etc, all negative feelings? I've always been curious to know that.
There are minor pieces that are happy too. In addition, a lot of sad pieces are in major keys too so there's no set rule on this.
@@wtzhangwtzhang9439 can you tell me a few minor pieces than don't sound sad?
@@ignacioclerici5341 Mendelssohn’s Rondo Capricioso, Chopin Sonata 3 finale, Chopin etude op 25 no 4
@@wtzhangwtzhang9439 thanks i'll check them out
im crying
1:12 😭
thanks. yeah i agree now :)
What's up with bashing someone, who's just daydreaming? And he didn't even say `master`, but learn.
And bmajor also devulish
The 'rat(survivor) is ALLOWED TO MOCK, RIP DOWN CHOPINHEART FEELINGS EVEN IN CLOSE TO HOLY NESS CHOPIN HIMSELF IN MODERN TIME. BEWARE IT KILLS ART
No one plays this even remotely close to the tempo marked by Chopin.
@Barrack Obama Vlogs He wanted his music to be played as he wrote it. When Liszt added his own embellishments to one of Chopin's pieces, Chopin was mad.
@@afriendlymusician3829 I believe that was because Liszt added ornaments to a nocturne (or another lyrical piece) to make it more virtuosic, while Chopin preferred the poeticness of the piece, so he wanted the notes to be played like he intended it (imo Chopin's lyrical pieces always use less=more). I like to believe that Chopin didn't care about strict tempo so much, but more about making the music speak (without using extreme rubato, Chopin didn't like that)
@@thingiezz i agree with chopin lol, liszt's ornaments suck
One of the very few Chopin pieces I like
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This sounds like Liebestraum on cannabis.
Chopin use opium and it reflect in his compositions
Bmajor difficult
???
don't you hate when you click on (Show the comment) and the comment doesn't exist anymore? and then people thumb up the reply comment and you have no idea what the response was to? and you might as well go along and thumb up the reply comment because you just want to agree with everyone else? and isn't it even stranger when the comment I am writing right now gets thumbed up because people agree with me?
again and again
What a harsh, ugly piano sound. Completely ruins the piece.
ioannes tritemius well you’re a fucking idiot. How about that?
Clean your ears a little bit
Doing that makes Pollini sound even worse.
There are some Chopin-Pollini recordings with this grandpiano.
Pollini is my favorite pianist and this is my favorite recording of this piece :)