Thanks for the review/comparison. ARC really has potential for productivity. Hope they can improve more, esp in terms of power consumption. When comparing it to competitors for gaming, this card is far less efficient.
These are very interesting results... I would have liked to see this compared to a 7700 XT or 7800 XT, being that those two cards both have dual media encoders, unlike the 4070, which I believe only has a single media encoder.
It's amazing to see how well Arc gets on in productivity. I've been daily driving an A750 in my gaming/editing PC for the whole of January for content on my channel. I have to say, in Premiere I've noticed no difference in timeline playback, but encododing does feel a little longer. For my workflow with Sony 10 bit 4:2:2 4K footage, the Arc A750 has been incredible!
@@ProYamYamPC that's so awesome!!! Maybe i can still squeeze a few more years from my very old AMD pc and swap my also very old 1660 super with that gpu! Thanks for responding! 🙏
I bought an a580 as an HTPC video codec accelerator.... CPU is sometimes high when playing high bitrate 4K60 but it's been very well behaved in Ubuntu (minimal install of latest version, no special/additional steps)
so does this address the lack of quicksync in Ryzen CPUs entirely? like if we had a 7950x, 4070, and ARC in second slot? i want a Frankenstein PC, but mixing red, green, and blue might end you up with a poopy brown. i want to know if ARC would be utilized in that scenario for anything
Hey tech notice, there are some incorrect and missing data in the Power Draw/ Consumption slide. Please check the table and do the necessary changes. I love your videos.
@@PtrmrkksPlease check 17:18 and see if I had made any baseless claims. Clearly 150 is not equal to 179 so why do they have the same percentages? The Ambient temperatures don't have the percentages mentioned.
One thing to keep in mind is DOSBox doesn't work with Arc cards anymore, since 3.5 months ago with driver 4676. From what I've seen of Intel's response about this, they may never fix that. If you don't have any old games that depend on DOSBox it's a great card though.
as a gamer (im on a apu right now ) would u recomend to me to go with this gpu for gaming and content creation ? since im on a budget (450/500 dollars for the full build)
Can I use this gpu (ARC A580) with rtx 4070 in the same PC that has a ryzen CPU? Would I then be able to use intel quick sync form A580 without changing my CPU or GPU?
right off the bat your video is wrong, All The Nvidia cards starting with the 4060 and up supports AV1 H.264 and H.265 etc and I am seeing so many misconceptions in the comments below I don't even know where to start. So lets start with intel's deep link Technology, if you have a late model intel cpu with onboard graphics it can act as a video card accelerator in Adobe and daVinci resolve the intel Arc cards support it natively, but I am not seeing anything that says it won't work with AMD or Nvidia cards. as for encoding All of Nvidia's consumer cards with a few exceptions have 5 media encoders unlocked not 2 in fact even now they are only capped via the drivers, so they don't compete with the commercial line up of Quatro's
Now I’m wondering what running a dual GPU setup would do with those intel Arc GPUs? Could 2 a580s or 2 a770s completely destroy a Nvidia 4080 or 4090 or do they not scale well with multiple GPUs? Or even running a 4070 with an a580 for a secondary GPU
Me too but you must have full pcie16 gen4 with working SAM or ReBar enabled to work properly which i don't know how juch is doable on mainstream motherboards or how rebar will be working with something like Xeon but with xeons pcie lanes will won't be bottleneck but i am not sure about rebar on xeon platform or threadripper
They don’t scale unfortunately and Intel plans to not have that ability for consumers. They have bigger issues at the moment trying to provide support for older games. Though I was delighted to find my a770m could run vampire the masquerade bloodlines from 2004 after applying the unofficial patch.
even the A770 doesnt hold up to a 2060 super this is utter fiction, intel cards have longer render times than AMD, not sure how he came up these numbers, but they are not normal and not supported by any other valid bench marks,there is something wrong with his testing i assume thats why allot of standard tests were not able to be done, but a RTX 2060 super will get stomped by a 3060 ti the a770 doesnt get close but that just looking render times , the intel are not good for rendering or gaming
Short answer: Yes How: IDK... at least, in numbers, 2 Intel Arc a770 (that has 16gb of ram) can beat a Nvidia 4090 (that has 24gb of ram), the deal is how do the «combinated» GPU of those 2 GPUs.
Can you please include a render time of a sample project video. So that we could understand better about its performance. This benchmarks will be better for understanding the realtime performance.
If " a750 and rtx 3050 is the same prize..which one is good choice considering cuda cores, driver optimization,future supports etc. I will do graphics disign using photoshop,illustrator,maya,blender,3ds max... And gunnir or intel which one will better for arc a750? Thanks.
Very interestling! Question: Puget systems ranked the 4070 at almost the same level as the 4070ti for performance on Davinci Resolve. Does the dual encoding on the 4070ti really make it better on Resolve? If so, in which scenarios? I wonder how Puget could have missed this. Thanks so much.
You know, I've been building PC's since Intel BX chipset was the thing to have (I'm 50+ with 20+ years in on-site tech support of anything from Cisco equipment to storage, virtualisation and computing clusters taking entire floors on industrial scale). Back in the days, No internet, so next PC related magazine issue was highly anticipated. Recently I've decided to build something for my boys and to catch up with the trends and check what's available out there... Back to the point, honestly, from the entire ocean of youtubers and channels covering this topic, THREE are totally standing out from the crowd - Yourself for content creating setups, Optimum for gaming rigs and Mr Matt Lee who turns the boring process of putting computer bits together into an experience worth every minute i put into it as a viewer. I can only commend you for the amount if work you've put in this video alone, the sheer amount of information and the way it was presented to us. For that, I thank you!!
@@theTechNotice ah, I must have missed it. Though that really kinda just makes the A750 look alot better. If you just tested it with the same driver as the a580. Assumedly that'd be a decent performance bump.
It seems (at least for the time being..) like Intel is creating stopgap GPUs for non-3D creators. Pretty smart way to approach the scene imo. Being a 3D creator myself I can also appreciate the lack of potential buyers remorse that could've stemmed from someone new to the GPU market coming in all of a sudden and trouncing all over the performance of a card I just had to shell out a ton of money for. 😆
Thanks, surprisingly good card. Could you possibly also do a comparison on deep link enabled vs disabled? Idle power draw is also useful to include in tests. (My setup: arc a770 + 13600k on Asus z790 proart + proart monotor)
A few months after the A380 came out I used it in conjunction with a RTX 3050 and UHD770 with Premiere and Handbrake and saw 30%-70% usage with the A380 and UDH770 when rendering a basic video. One of the best choices I could make.
Could not find the test bench setup to see if this setup uses the internal igpu and quicksync for both nvidia and Intel. It's hard to judge exactly what these results mean as cpu nvme and ram can make a difference. Will wait for updated drivers as it's not fully stable yet, but certainly great progress from Intel How does it compare to a mac m2 ultra as this card with a 13500 and ddr4 would be under $800 and beat out the best bang system, as well as giving apple a run for its money in Adobe uses
Thanks. I suppose this makes sense if comparing cards across platforms, but if Intel cannot combine the igpu in the ARC cards and nvidia can benefit from the igpu, then the match could be closer for those with 12th gen and 13th gen cpu's. I still think arc is a winner with this platform. Will have to wait on final arc drivers.
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Love the intro!
And i love to see the Intel graphics getting some wins.
More competition is always better.
Thanks for the review/comparison. ARC really has potential for productivity. Hope they can improve more, esp in terms of power consumption. When comparing it to competitors for gaming, this card is far less efficient.
AMD CPU + Intel GPU
Intel CPU + AMD GPU
The perfect couple. Good times!
And both have better drivers(open-source) than Nvidia for Linux/steam !!
nah intel + intel would be better cuz amd cpu + arc gpu could lead to some issues like in gaming u would get some problem with xess
These are very interesting results... I would have liked to see this compared to a 7700 XT or 7800 XT, being that those two cards both have dual media encoders, unlike the 4070, which I believe only has a single media encoder.
the 7700 XT render times are about the same as a RTX 2060 super and RX 6800 , a rtx 3060TI will cut those render times by around 40% across the board,
Could you please add this GPU to "YOUR" editing rig to see if adding Quicksync to an already powerful build makes any difference
It's amazing to see how well Arc gets on in productivity. I've been daily driving an A750 in my gaming/editing PC for the whole of January for content on my channel. I have to say, in Premiere I've noticed no difference in timeline playback, but encododing does feel a little longer. For my workflow with Sony 10 bit 4:2:2 4K footage, the Arc A750 has been incredible!
hows timeline 10 bit 422 playback of the a750 in premiere?
@@blessyo4 it’s brilliant, I don’t even need to create proxies. Sony A7 IV footage.
@@ProYamYamPC that's so awesome!!! Maybe i can still squeeze a few more years from my very old AMD pc and swap my also very old 1660 super with that gpu! Thanks for responding! 🙏
I bought an a580 as an HTPC video codec accelerator.... CPU is sometimes high when playing high bitrate 4K60 but it's been very well behaved in Ubuntu (minimal install of latest version, no special/additional steps)
so does this address the lack of quicksync in Ryzen CPUs entirely? like if we had a 7950x, 4070, and ARC in second slot? i want a Frankenstein PC, but mixing red, green, and blue might end you up with a poopy brown. i want to know if ARC would be utilized in that scenario for anything
Now only let intel make rtx 4090 equivalent and can go full blue pc
Hey tech notice, there are some incorrect and missing data in the Power Draw/ Consumption slide. Please check the table and do the necessary changes. I love your videos.
You made a statement without providing any facts .. what is wrong with what he says ?
@@PtrmrkksPlease check 17:18 and see if I had made any baseless claims. Clearly 150 is not equal to 179 so why do they have the same percentages? The Ambient temperatures don't have the percentages mentioned.
One thing to keep in mind is DOSBox doesn't work with Arc cards anymore, since 3.5 months ago with driver 4676. From what I've seen of Intel's response about this, they may never fix that. If you don't have any old games that depend on DOSBox it's a great card though.
Amazing video!
as a gamer (im on a apu right now ) would u recomend to me to go with this gpu for gaming and content creation ? since im on a budget (450/500 dollars for the full build)
I cannot understand Gamer Nexus and Hardware Unboxed have very different opinion about this card.
because they are testing for games. productivity is a different field.
Can I use this gpu (ARC A580) with rtx 4070 in the same PC that has a ryzen CPU? Would I then be able to use intel quick sync form A580 without changing my CPU or GPU?
Does using this card with a Ryzen CPU enable Intel quick sync?
it should
you got some data on the graphs mixed up but good reviewer otherwise.
how many 4k transcode can you get on this card for plex??
could you od some deeplink bechmark?
Just shows how bad the Nvidia cards are over priced..
Hello ... I just want to ask ... will see a performance boost in editing 4k videos in Premiere Pro if I pair ARC A580 with my i7 12700k cpu?
If you don't have a GPU already then YES.
How does this perform in terms of cad based applications like
3d design and FEA
USING software like
Solid edge
Solid works
Ansys
Thanks
The a770 works perfectly fine, I’d imagine the 580 or 380 would work well too.
Can I pair it with Ryzen 5 5500 and a B450 mobo? Will it hinder performance since the cpu and mobo is pcie 3.0?
Thanks in advance❤
if i was u id save more and go with the am5 platform to have a better upgreading path
Nice
right off the bat your video is wrong, All The Nvidia cards starting with the 4060 and up supports AV1 H.264 and H.265 etc and I am seeing so many misconceptions in the comments below I don't even know where to start. So lets start with intel's deep link Technology, if you have a late model intel cpu with onboard graphics it can act as a video card accelerator in Adobe and daVinci resolve the intel Arc cards support it natively, but I am not seeing anything that says it won't work with AMD or Nvidia cards. as for encoding All of Nvidia's consumer cards with a few exceptions have 5 media encoders unlocked not 2 in fact even now they are only capped via the drivers, so they don't compete with the commercial line up of Quatro's
I was getting really excited until you mentioned it crashes with AE 🙁
Doesn't anymore BTW, new drovers have improved performance in Adobe :)
@@theTechNotice I'm very tempted now, my budget is very tight, thanks for the update! 😂
Now we just need to give Nvidia an x86 license 😩😩😩😩
Now I’m wondering what running a dual GPU setup would do with those intel Arc GPUs? Could 2 a580s or 2 a770s completely destroy a Nvidia 4080 or 4090 or do they not scale well with multiple GPUs? Or even running a 4070 with an a580 for a secondary GPU
Me too but you must have full pcie16 gen4 with working SAM or ReBar enabled to work properly which i don't know how juch is doable on mainstream motherboards or how rebar will be working with something like Xeon but with xeons pcie lanes will won't be bottleneck but i am not sure about rebar on xeon platform or threadripper
They don’t scale unfortunately and Intel plans to not have that ability for consumers. They have bigger issues at the moment trying to provide support for older games. Though I was delighted to find my a770m could run vampire the masquerade bloodlines from 2004 after applying the unofficial patch.
even the A770 doesnt hold up to a 2060 super this is utter fiction, intel cards have longer render times than AMD, not sure how he came up these numbers, but they are not normal and not supported by any other valid bench marks,there is something wrong with his testing i assume thats why allot of standard tests were not able to be done, but a RTX 2060 super will get stomped by a 3060 ti the a770 doesnt get close but that just looking render times , the intel are not good for rendering or gaming
Short answer: Yes
How: IDK... at least, in numbers, 2 Intel Arc a770 (that has 16gb of ram) can beat a Nvidia 4090 (that has 24gb of ram), the deal is how do the «combinated» GPU of those 2 GPUs.
Can you please include a render time of a sample project video. So that we could understand better about its performance.
This benchmarks will be better for understanding the realtime performance.
i have a AMD cpu and Nvdia gpu......would adding a A580 to my build help because i don`t have Quicksyn
Once Battlemage drops, I am retiring my 3080TI.
Hi bro I've watching you for a long time. I have question which is better arc a770 16gb vs rtx 3060ti?
Arc A770 by a mile in real world testing
If " a750 and rtx 3050 is the same prize..which one is good choice considering cuda cores, driver optimization,future supports etc. I will do graphics disign using photoshop,illustrator,maya,blender,3ds max...
And gunnir or intel which one will better for arc a750?
Thanks.
Gunnir has more memory clock other than that everything is the same.
I just want to know if I can do AI with it, play games, video editing :)
Great Video by the way.🤩
🙂 thats really neat, thanks for the comparisons
"CUDA cores"... What kind of a magic my 7900 xtx is on when running CUDA apps then??
Very interestling! Question: Puget systems ranked the 4070 at almost the same level as the 4070ti for performance on Davinci Resolve. Does the dual encoding on the 4070ti really make it better on Resolve? If so, in which scenarios? I wonder how Puget could have missed this. Thanks so much.
A770 doesn't have a ga106 gpu
Boy Ain't no way!
I need 3 now!🤣🤣🤣🤣
24gb of VRAM for under 550 usd, let's go!!!
is arc a580 better than rx 6600 in blender and editing software?
You know, I've been building PC's since Intel BX chipset was the thing to have (I'm 50+ with 20+ years in on-site tech support of anything from Cisco equipment to storage, virtualisation and computing clusters taking entire floors on industrial scale). Back in the days, No internet, so next PC related magazine issue was highly anticipated. Recently I've decided to build something for my boys and to catch up with the trends and check what's available out there...
Back to the point, honestly, from the entire ocean of youtubers and channels covering this topic, THREE are totally standing out from the crowd - Yourself for content creating setups, Optimum for gaming rigs and Mr Matt Lee who turns the boring process of putting computer bits together into an experience worth every minute i put into it as a viewer.
I can only commend you for the amount if work you've put in this video alone, the sheer amount of information and the way it was presented to us. For that, I thank you!!
what do u think of gamer nexus?
How is the A750 slower in some cases? Theyre the same architecture!?
Mentioned this in the video, but a driver difference within 1 week :)
@@theTechNotice ah, I must have missed it. Though that really kinda just makes the A750 look alot better. If you just tested it with the same driver as the a580. Assumedly that'd be a decent performance bump.
I would never think I would praise Intel. 😎
Push! Push!! Push!!! Intel!!!
It seems (at least for the time being..) like Intel is creating stopgap GPUs for non-3D creators. Pretty smart way to approach the scene imo. Being a 3D creator myself I can also appreciate the lack of potential buyers remorse that could've stemmed from someone new to the GPU market coming in all of a sudden and trouncing all over the performance of a card I just had to shell out a ton of money for. 😆
Thanks, surprisingly good card.
Could you possibly also do a comparison on deep link enabled vs disabled?
Idle power draw is also useful to include in tests.
(My setup: arc a770 + 13600k on Asus z790 proart + proart monotor)
I have 3070x cup and rxt 2080it
I do video editing
What is ur opinion on arc 580
Should i change the gpu for better video editing performance
So i am really excited about new gen of Intel cpus with integrated ACM gpu i don't like laptops but that i must test and have
no davinci rompareL
A few months after the A380 came out I used it in conjunction with a RTX 3050 and UHD770 with Premiere and Handbrake and saw 30%-70% usage with the A380 and UDH770 when rendering a basic video. One of the best choices I could make.
Could not find the test bench setup to see if this setup uses the internal igpu and quicksync for both nvidia and Intel. It's hard to judge exactly what these results mean as cpu nvme and ram can make a difference. Will wait for updated drivers as it's not fully stable yet, but certainly great progress from Intel
How does it compare to a mac m2 ultra as this card with a 13500 and ddr4 would be under $800 and beat out the best bang system, as well as giving apple a run for its money in Adobe uses
iGPU is disabled in thr GPU testing.
Thanks. I suppose this makes sense if comparing cards across platforms, but if Intel cannot combine the igpu in the ARC cards and nvidia can benefit from the igpu, then the match could be closer for those with 12th gen and 13th gen cpu's. I still think arc is a winner with this platform. Will have to wait on final arc drivers.
No offense but I don't like Adobe so that makes you my enemy