I know MARTA wants to focus on BRT which I think could be useful in East Atlanta , but I really do think a streetcar to Ponce City Market would seriously make a difference for Atlanta Tourism and for residents
Brisbane's new Metro pilot test vehicle is also a good example of combined Rubber tyred Tram/Train and Bus Rapid Transit system. And it is battery-powered, so it is Eco-Friendly. Once the project is fully complete and all the vehicles are rolled out, there will even be flash chargers at the end of every route/line that can charge one whole unit in under 5 minutes. Its design allows it to be expanded anywhere at a lower cost, as it can run on any road, ranging from Bus lanes along a busy road to brand new fully dedicated Transitways and even de-clog existing Transitways by using their right of way. In Brisbane, once complete, the Metro will use existing Transitways (or Busways, as locals refer to them) will focus on going into the city and getting buses out of the city, making more space for pedestrians and Bike infrastructure. In addition, this allows for brand new Circular Bus routes radiating around the city between different suburbs, allowing better connections to both major Bus Station, the existing Queensland Rail System and even the new metro. I think many U.S. cities can adopt systems similar to Brisbane's new metro, as it is very cheap and easy to convert car based infrastructure and the vehicles can even run on Roads which only require bus priority upgrades.
good to see this. But American downtowns full of detached buildings (skyscrapers ) with empty space between them is less walkable than European style cities. Makes a big difference.
Heres something you may find interesting. :) The name of my country has nothing to do with the interesting and delicious bird 'turkey'...... .....but the name of the bird does have a connection with the name of my country, let me explain. :) In the past 40 years 37 countries have changed their name, partially or fully. Obviously one can not change the name of an apple or an orange etc in other languages, but country names are like peoples' individual names, so if you're named John we don't call you Karen. :) Name of my country has always been Türkiye, it's been known as such since around the 1200's. The name it self has a suffix, '-iye', that is Turk-iye, where the -iye suffix means 'land of/belonging to', just like the Latin suffix of '-ia', which exists in such country names like Austr-ia, Austral-ia, Indones-ia etc. Basically, the use of '-iye/-ia' is the same as the the use of '-land' suffix in country names like Ire(Eire)-land, Po(le)-land, Eng(Anglo)-land and so on and so on. Many would remember the country Czechoslovak-ia which changed it's name to Czech Republic and a few years ago changed that to Czechia (that is Czech-ia). The Latin suffix -ia probably originates from Turkish -iye as Turkish been over 10,000 years is much older than Latin which is around 1300 years old. Spelled in different languages in different ways to phonetically resemble (to sound like) 'Türkiye' we got various spellings like; Turq-uía (in Spanish), Turch-ia (in Italian), Turq-uie (in French) Turk-ei (in German) Turk-ey (in English) Mind you this was way before the animal we currently know as turkey was found by the europeans when they explored the north americas. The bird was first sent to europe from north americas in the year 1519, so up until that point there was no bird named turkey.... ...they came across the bird and thought it was a specie of the fowl/chicken they had been buying from the country of Turkiye at the time, so they named the bird 'Turkey Fowl' to define 'Turkish Chicken'... ....just like how a dog breed is known as German Shepherd (because it's from Germany), American Bulldog, British Terrier, Greek Harehound etc etc. In time you don't get to call the harehound simply as Greek or you don't call the terrier Britirsh, or shepherd as simply German, but in time the Turkish Fowl started to be called just 'Turkey' and later 'turkey', and this went on for hundreds of years. Now in modern times, this caused confusion, especially when we have people across the world unable to point to their own country on an atlas. Basically we didn't change the name of our country, we changed the mistake made in the English language. : ) So, there's some tid bit information for you to have a great day, if you read upto this point you have a great night too, ohh just have a wonderfull life. : ) Best wishes. ;)
You know MARTA, when you promise us light rail and give us gloried busses, telling us 'this is way cheaper' is not a consolation. Yeah, If you promise to give me $10,000 it would be way cheaper to just give me $5000 instead. Doesn't make me feel any less lied to or screwed over.
Why would you want to spend 10x the tax payers dollars for something that does essentially the same thing? I’d rather have 10x the miles of BRT than some small section of shitty light rail than takes decades to develop
In one breath you say BRT will save us money to build, and then in the same news day we read that your BRT projects are going to cost nearly 50% more than you budgeted and take longer. Instead of pretending these projects are going to cost less, just build the LRT lines that citizens are asking you for at a price that you're going to eventually charge us for BRT anyway? If my tax money is going to get mismanaged, I'd rather it be on something nice.
The cost of all projects is going up due to various factors, including inflation and staffing resources. The fact that BRT is cheaper than LRT remains true - even as the cost of all projects rises simultaneously.
What also remains true is MARTA hasn’t made any significant investment in rail in my lifetime, nor does it have any intention to. You can’t deliver projects on time or on budget, and you refuse to listen to public input. MARTA remains an embarrassment to Atlantans, both as a network and as an agency.
@@MARTAtransit street car is not the type of "rail" project that is going to have an impact on the city. Streetcars aren't even rail anyway. Dominic M is asking for pizza and you're offering tomato sauce and cheese on a bagel
never thought about a BRT being beautiful and maybe its just this section of the route but the section I see is beautiful and if most of it built/when built is built to this level of separation by landscaping then it is going to be the best/most beautiful BRT in the world!!!!!!
It can currently take 45 minutes to go a few miles in that area in a car thanks to all this new development. Better functioning mass transit will be necessary just for survival moving forward.
@@Jason_Taverner This line also connects two transit centers the Northwest and the one to the South which both of them have connections to the HOV lane system. Also the line will be extended downtown as well.
2 years after is debut and on average only 800 daily ridership. Idk how they can brag about how this is a better option when there’s abysmal ridership and it really took them 4 years to build a bus route
Yeah ridership is low because the other transit lines planned to connect to this haven't been built yet and the line opened in the middle of Covid. The two lines in the design phase right now will link Downtown/Midtown to Uptown. Also this BRT line is being extended in to one of the densest neighborhoods in the city with plans for the extension to open by 2026.
Yeah, I think that would be better for the environment but in the meantime appreciate the ambience and just buy a pair of headphones if you don't like the sound of the bus.
Now THIS is more like it. I was afraid these kinds of bus systems wouldn't exist at all in America. I'm from Switzerland, and even without BRT, our bus stops have the height of bus entry level, so (with kneeling enabled) wheelchairs could get on and off the bus without anyone helping them, through the middle door actually (no matter if bendy or rigid since in Switzerland nearly all 40 foot busses have 3 doors and the 60 foot bendies have 3 up to 5 doors, and we have 80 foot bi-articulated busses in a lot of towns, even smaller ones such as Luzern or St. Gallen where those big busses operate instead of trams which is much cheaper in maintenance etc.
Luzern is a lovely city with the most charming mountain vistas. I remember the first time I laid over there while taking the TGV from Paris to Milan, I was blown away. Switzerland is amazing( you’ve also got the best water in the world)
Bob Ethington lies in this video. This wasn't light rail because John Culberson repeatedly blocked light rail funding until he left Congress in 2019 over "safety" fears in his NIMBY district.
MARTA is all in on BRT propaganda. If you build it like it is supposed to be done...dedicated ROW, traffic light preference, and "rail-like" stations...then maybe...but as cost over runs happen, the frequency will be reduced and more of it will enter mixed traffic. You know that is going to happen. We need to hold MARTA's feet to the fire that they will deliver exactly what is promised, and they need to promise these things.
And if they don't put a hard division on the lane then drivers will just not respect the right of way and drive in the bus lane, making the entire system useless.
Their is a difference between brt and lrt! Brt: low quality, low speed, low cost and more flexibility Lrt: high quality, high speed, high cost and less flexibility "We dont have the monies" then get a job! Delaying light rail because of costs isnt cool man! Just get a job!
I don't really care what others think, I personally don't like going to train stations all the time and riding the train isn't really always fun for me. Sometimes we can be really high up and it can scare the living crap out of me because I have a extreme fear of heights. Sometimes we can be going really fast and it's way too loud to be going fast in a tunnel. Plus bear can be a bunch of dirty things everywhere which I obviously do not like and I don't know anyone who does. Things that belong in a toilet. Also people who need help screaming and acting like they are talking to someone and no one is really there, and that's pretty scary. This on the other hand makes it to where you don't have to worry about that. My only concern is why on Earth is this on the channel for a entirely different city transit line? It makes no sense, I can't get through the video knowing that it's not even going to be for our city most likely, due to the fact that they keep saying that it will and then they keep saying that it will be through Houston. Either way I just am not keeping my hopes up and if it does start existing that will be cool.
We get it, Atlanta isn’t getting any new light rail.. Please just deliver something useful and restore the public’s faith in Marta
Like extending the red line instead of building an entire new brt corridor.
I know MARTA wants to focus on BRT which I think could be useful in East Atlanta , but I really do think a streetcar to Ponce City Market would seriously make a difference for Atlanta Tourism and for residents
That is actually much further along than other BRT projects
A street car? What the fuck?
BRT has its place but it’s NOT the same as light rail.
Why doesn't this series have more views!
Brisbane's new Metro pilot test vehicle is also a good example of combined Rubber tyred Tram/Train and Bus Rapid Transit system. And it is battery-powered, so it is Eco-Friendly. Once the project is fully complete and all the vehicles are rolled out, there will even be flash chargers at the end of every route/line that can charge one whole unit in under 5 minutes. Its design allows it to be expanded anywhere at a lower cost, as it can run on any road, ranging from Bus lanes along a busy road to brand new fully dedicated Transitways and even de-clog existing Transitways by using their right of way. In Brisbane, once complete, the Metro will use existing Transitways (or Busways, as locals refer to them) will focus on going into the city and getting buses out of the city, making more space for pedestrians and Bike infrastructure. In addition, this allows for brand new Circular Bus routes radiating around the city between different suburbs, allowing better connections to both major Bus Station, the existing Queensland Rail System and even the new metro.
I think many U.S. cities can adopt systems similar to Brisbane's new metro, as it is very cheap and easy to convert car based infrastructure and the vehicles can even run on Roads which only require bus priority upgrades.
good to see this. But American downtowns full of detached buildings (skyscrapers ) with empty space between them is less walkable than European style cities. Makes a big difference.
Excellent Recommendation!
Give Houston the rail we want.
Heres something you may find interesting. :)
The name of my country has nothing to do with the interesting and delicious bird 'turkey'......
.....but the name of the bird does have a connection with the name of my country, let me explain. :)
In the past 40 years 37 countries have changed their name, partially or fully.
Obviously one can not change the name of an apple or an orange etc in other languages,
but country names are like peoples' individual names, so if you're named John we don't call you Karen. :)
Name of my country has always been Türkiye, it's been known as such since around the 1200's.
The name it self has a suffix, '-iye', that is Turk-iye, where the -iye suffix means 'land of/belonging to',
just like the Latin suffix of '-ia', which exists in such country names like
Austr-ia, Austral-ia, Indones-ia etc.
Basically, the use of '-iye/-ia' is the same as the the use of '-land' suffix in country names like
Ire(Eire)-land, Po(le)-land, Eng(Anglo)-land and so on and so on.
Many would remember the country Czechoslovak-ia which changed it's name to Czech Republic and a few years ago changed that to Czechia (that is Czech-ia).
The Latin suffix -ia probably originates from Turkish -iye as Turkish been over 10,000 years is much older than Latin which is around 1300 years old.
Spelled in different languages in different ways to phonetically resemble (to sound like) 'Türkiye'
we got various spellings like;
Turq-uía (in Spanish),
Turch-ia (in Italian),
Turq-uie (in French)
Turk-ei (in German)
Turk-ey (in English)
Mind you this was way before the animal we currently know as turkey was found by the europeans when they explored the north americas. The bird was first sent to europe from north americas in the year 1519, so up until that point there was no bird named turkey....
...they came across the bird and thought it was a specie of the fowl/chicken they had been buying from the country of Turkiye at the time, so they named the bird 'Turkey Fowl' to define 'Turkish Chicken'...
....just like how a dog breed is known as German Shepherd (because it's from Germany), American Bulldog, British Terrier, Greek Harehound etc etc.
In time you don't get to call the harehound simply as Greek or you don't call the terrier Britirsh, or shepherd as simply German,
but in time the Turkish Fowl started to be called just 'Turkey' and later 'turkey', and this went on for hundreds of years.
Now in modern times, this caused confusion, especially when we have people across the world unable to point to their own country on an atlas.
Basically we didn't change the name of our country, we changed the mistake made in the English language. : )
So, there's some tid bit information for you to have a great day, if you read upto this point you have a great night too, ohh just have a wonderfull life. : )
Best wishes. ;)
You know MARTA, when you promise us light rail and give us gloried busses, telling us 'this is way cheaper' is not a consolation. Yeah, If you promise to give me $10,000 it would be way cheaper to just give me $5000 instead. Doesn't make me feel any less lied to or screwed over.
Exactly. They are trying to sell a shitty bus and call it a train. It’s a failure on every level.
Why would you want to spend 10x the tax payers dollars for something that does essentially the same thing? I’d rather have 10x the miles of BRT than some small section of shitty light rail than takes decades to develop
What decades, new rail projects shouldn't take more than a few years to build. @@usernameryan5982
You want an overbudget, late disaster like the purple line in Maryland, instead????
Bring this to Nashville plz 🙏🏻
Great project.
Even though this is Houston, any notice the ATL Orkin truck @5:59 ?
In one breath you say BRT will save us money to build, and then in the same news day we read that your BRT projects are going to cost nearly 50% more than you budgeted and take longer.
Instead of pretending these projects are going to cost less, just build the LRT lines that citizens are asking you for at a price that you're going to eventually charge us for BRT anyway? If my tax money is going to get mismanaged, I'd rather it be on something nice.
The cost of all projects is going up due to various factors, including inflation and staffing resources. The fact that BRT is cheaper than LRT remains true - even as the cost of all projects rises simultaneously.
What also remains true is MARTA hasn’t made any significant investment in rail in my lifetime, nor does it have any intention to. You can’t deliver projects on time or on budget, and you refuse to listen to public input. MARTA remains an embarrassment to Atlantans, both as a network and as an agency.
@@Domirillo We invite you to join us next week as we discuss Streetcar East expansion. itsmarta.com/public-hearings-meetings.aspx
@@MARTAtransit Need more Marta train lines, going across each other.
@@MARTAtransit street car is not the type of "rail" project that is going to have an impact on the city. Streetcars aren't even rail anyway. Dominic M is asking for pizza and you're offering tomato sauce and cheese on a bagel
Also with the off-board fare system. What exactly is stopping people from just...not paying fare?
Ticket inspectors.
4:38 what is bob talking about?
I don’t get why not just have a rail system and use the HOV for extended connection to the Red Green and purple line
The street noise in this video is insane y’all need to not take inspiration from Houston
never thought about a BRT being beautiful and maybe its just this section of the route but the section I see is beautiful and if most of it built/when built is built to this level of separation by landscaping then it is going to be the best/most beautiful BRT in the world!!!!!!
Landscaping is essential. There’s nothing else that makes people feel like being in an environment 👫🌳
They didn’t mention that ridership is well below projections and those billions of development were coming with or without this.
Well the whole system is not tied together yet! The riders will come.
It can currently take 45 minutes to go a few miles in that area in a car thanks to all this new development. Better functioning mass transit will be necessary just for survival moving forward.
@@Jason_Taverner This line also connects two transit centers the Northwest and the one to the South which both of them have connections to the HOV lane system. Also the line will be extended downtown as well.
2 years after is debut and on average only 800 daily ridership. Idk how they can brag about how this is a better option when there’s abysmal ridership and it really took them 4 years to build a bus route
Yeah ridership is low because the other transit lines planned to connect to this haven't been built yet and the line opened in the middle of Covid. The two lines in the design phase right now will link Downtown/Midtown to Uptown. Also this BRT line is being extended in to one of the densest neighborhoods in the city with plans for the extension to open by 2026.
Those buses need to become electric buses ASP. What a terrible noise when standing at the station! Where I live all buses are all electric already.
Yeah, I think that would be better for the environment but in the meantime appreciate the ambience and just buy a pair of headphones if you don't like the sound of the bus.
Now THIS is more like it. I was afraid these kinds of bus systems wouldn't exist at all in America. I'm from Switzerland, and even without BRT, our bus stops have the height of bus entry level, so (with kneeling enabled) wheelchairs could get on and off the bus without anyone helping them, through the middle door actually (no matter if bendy or rigid since in Switzerland nearly all 40 foot busses have 3 doors and the 60 foot bendies have 3 up to 5 doors, and we have 80 foot bi-articulated busses in a lot of towns, even smaller ones such as Luzern or St. Gallen where those big busses operate instead of trams which is much cheaper in maintenance etc.
Luzern is a lovely city with the most charming mountain vistas. I remember the first time I laid over there while taking the TGV from Paris to Milan, I was blown away. Switzerland is amazing( you’ve also got the best water in the world)
Now if only Houston got rid of those horrible parking lots that occupy whole ass city blocks in down town .3.
Bob Ethington lies in this video. This wasn't light rail because John Culberson repeatedly blocked light rail funding until he left Congress in 2019 over "safety" fears in his NIMBY district.
Expand rail Please prioritize rail
The money was there for the rail though, he’s lying lol. They chose to use it for other things along Post Oak Ave and do BRT. It looks kinda wack tbh.
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It's a bus. No one wants to change from bus to rail. It looked cramped just like a regular bus. Unlike a train car which is roomy. Pass
we didn't want to give people another bus route?
But it is a bus route lol
The silver line failed.
MARTA is all in on BRT propaganda. If you build it like it is supposed to be done...dedicated ROW, traffic light preference, and "rail-like" stations...then maybe...but as cost over runs happen, the frequency will be reduced and more of it will enter mixed traffic. You know that is going to happen. We need to hold MARTA's feet to the fire that they will deliver exactly what is promised, and they need to promise these things.
And if they don't put a hard division on the lane then drivers will just not respect the right of way and drive in the bus lane, making the entire system useless.
Their is a difference between brt and lrt!
Brt: low quality, low speed, low cost and more flexibility
Lrt: high quality, high speed, high cost and less flexibility
"We dont have the monies"
then get a job!
Delaying light rail because of costs isnt cool man! Just get a job!
the silver line was a failure and now it's just regular buses. Need Rail because Rail has priority and not part of traffic unlike busses.
Eeeeee3333
Making houston a happiest, safest, high security and most beautiful city is awfully suspicious! No city is perfect! Why houston wants to be perfect?
it's not perfect nor do they wanna be perfect. they do in fact wanna improve and get rid of the extreme car depended environments.
I don't really care what others think, I personally don't like going to train stations all the time and riding the train isn't really always fun for me. Sometimes we can be really high up and it can scare the living crap out of me because I have a extreme fear of heights. Sometimes we can be going really fast and it's way too loud to be going fast in a tunnel. Plus bear can be a bunch of dirty things everywhere which I obviously do not like and I don't know anyone who does. Things that belong in a toilet. Also people who need help screaming and acting like they are talking to someone and no one is really there, and that's pretty scary. This on the other hand makes it to where you don't have to worry about that.
My only concern is why on Earth is this on the channel for a entirely different city transit line? It makes no sense, I can't get through the video knowing that it's not even going to be for our city most likely, due to the fact that they keep saying that it will and then they keep saying that it will be through Houston. Either way I just am not keeping my hopes up and if it does start existing that will be cool.