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  • Throw away the metal tables that came with your planer and do this instead. Seriously, it's way better - a true upgrade.
    Before I made the original, I had a serious problem during the winter with slipping on the feed rollers. Turned out the smooth, polished metal bed of the planer had too much friction and the feed rollers couldn't grip the stock well enough to push it through. Changing to the melamine table SOLVED that perfectly. In fact, it did such a great job of fixing that problem, I almost forgot about it!
    Doesn't have to be fancy or complex - the table can be longer if you need it - but the big thing is that it's quick and easy to install and take off, and doesn't take up a lot of room in the shop.
    It doesn't prevent snipe, but no feed table arrangement will for these small planers. To stop snipe, you need to have continuous feed so that stock is under BOTH rollers when the cutter is cutting. I use a sacrificial piece of stock to feed in before I send in the stuff I want to plane, and that sacrificial piece takes the snipe. I made a video showing the method and you can watch that here:
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  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  10 месяцев назад +43

    Throw away the metal tables that came with your planer and do this instead. Seriously, it's way better - a true upgrade.
    Before I made the original, I had a serious problem during the winter with slipping on the feed rollers. Turned out the smooth, polished metal bed of the planer had too much friction and the feed rollers couldn't grip the stock well enough to push it through. Changing to the melamine table SOLVED that perfectly. In fact, it did such a great job of fixing that problem, I almost forgot about it!
    Doesn't have to be fancy or complex - the table can be longer if you need it - but the big thing is that it's quick and easy to install and take off, and doesn't take up a lot of room in the shop.
    It doesn't prevent snipe, but no feed table arrangement will for these small planers. To stop snipe, you need to have continuous feed so that stock is under BOTH rollers when the cutter is cutting. I use a sacrificial piece of stock to feed in before I send in the stuff I want to plane, and that sacrificial piece takes the snipe. I made a video showing the method and you can watch that here:
    ruclips.net/video/Ssvzv2TKBMg/видео.html

    • @WorBlux
      @WorBlux 8 месяцев назад

      Why not just wax the table?

  • @Sebastopolmark
    @Sebastopolmark 10 месяцев назад +76

    Finally, a John Heisz project I can make! ! !!!

    • @etcher6841
      @etcher6841 10 месяцев назад +1

      Daring today, aren't we?

    • @johnsrabe
      @johnsrabe 10 месяцев назад

      If it were me, I would’ve built it with TWO cleats on the underside of the melamine bed, forgetting that I had to put it into the planer. And then, I’m SURE I would’ve built a removable support.

  • @GregsGarage
    @GregsGarage 10 месяцев назад +2

    Down and dirty! Great addition to the lunch box John!

  • @jtotheb-ip2hh
    @jtotheb-ip2hh 8 месяцев назад

    a few years ago i bought a used router table from a carpenter out of his shop. he had something like this but it must've been about 12 feet long and integrated into a work table along one wall of his shop. i wanted to ask him about it but didn't want to waste his time and have often wondered about it. this looks like a great small-shop alternative and very do-able for a weekend warrior like myself. thank you JH!

  • @IAmKyleBrown
    @IAmKyleBrown 10 месяцев назад +4

    Long time fan, John, love all your stuff. Overall a great and simple design that best meets the original intent and design of the lunch box planer.
    HAPPY HOLDIAYS!

  • @tinkerer4
    @tinkerer4 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve been meaning to do something like this with my planer for years! Maybe I’ll actually go do it now.

  • @davidperry636
    @davidperry636 10 месяцев назад +1

    I like the dust collection can. That's a good idea since it blows so hard anyway. I have problems with it blowing off my shop vac hose. Also the angle measuring trick was clever too. I always think too hard and miss the obvious simple stuff...

  • @russellseaton2014
    @russellseaton2014 9 месяцев назад

    I made my own infeed and outfeed table for my lunchbox planer 30 years ago. Mine is 3 feet or so long. Double thickness of MDF. 1.5 inches thick. Edge guides in the middle. I have support blocks beneath it on the in and out side to keep the table locked in place. Helps to reduce planer snipe.

  • @jimmcnett
    @jimmcnett 8 месяцев назад

    You always have excellent improvements to your tools. At least the ones you don't make yourself.

  • @OKHansen
    @OKHansen 10 месяцев назад +1

    So simple, yet so effective.
    Just what I like best about your stuff.
    I'm definately gonna build one for myself

  • @tomhargrave27
    @tomhargrave27 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hi John great vid as always! Just got a 7435 for my shop. And the garbage can/ala dust collector is genius. Will be building mine shortly

    • @jmadd1000
      @jmadd1000 8 месяцев назад

      How can I see some more details on the dust collector? My Rigid can’t keep up with the planer.

  • @markzambelli
    @markzambelli 10 месяцев назад

    Nice build and is definitely now on my to-do list (and as an aside now that my cordless drill has 'expired' (pushing up the daisies, kicked the bucket, is now an ex-drill) I love the use of your impact-driver as a wood drill... chef's kiss... maybe I don't need to rush to grab another DeWalt drill after all)

  • @sapelesteve
    @sapelesteve 10 месяцев назад

    Very nice planer upgrade John. 👍👍🔨🔨

  • @caafeministriesinc3033
    @caafeministriesinc3033 10 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant idea! I will have to add that feature to my DW735

  • @chrisbidmead2338
    @chrisbidmead2338 10 месяцев назад

    So simple, so effective. Genius John!

  • @TheGabb3r
    @TheGabb3r 10 месяцев назад

    What an awesome idea, I think I'll do that on my steel city planer and remove the stock wings to help with longer stock!

  • @terrywawro2951
    @terrywawro2951 10 месяцев назад

    Great idea. I need to do the same. What I really liked was that custom trash can lid with the filter. I would much prefer to use that over my dust collector as the chips fill it up way too fast.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 10 месяцев назад

    Brilliant work, John! Really well done! 😃
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
    And happy holidays!

  • @HSkraekelig
    @HSkraekelig 10 месяцев назад

    Pooh. I just bought and installed the metal extensions for mine a few months ago. I do use a melamine sled for jointing, but now I think I'll add a long bed as well. I especially like the support on the outfeed.

  • @dougdavidson175
    @dougdavidson175 10 месяцев назад

    Nice upgrade to an upgrade! Take care & stay safe.

  • @benkeller3
    @benkeller3 10 месяцев назад

    Perfect simple solution ... what else would i expect from you! well done!

  • @Jeffferguson1911
    @Jeffferguson1911 10 месяцев назад

    Hey John, long time no see! I'm glad to see you are still making content and enjoying your time in the shop.

  • @cobberpete1
    @cobberpete1 10 месяцев назад

    My thicknesser had 300mm supports on each end, which as you say is useless, I opted for a length 1500 X 380 X 35mm Kitchen bench top. Great for supporting the longer pieces I quite often use.

  • @hassleoffa
    @hassleoffa 10 месяцев назад

    Nice job John. I think you should make "Jazz Hands" an ending feature of all future videos.

  • @TrainFlood
    @TrainFlood 5 месяцев назад

    Lol love the waiting motion.

  • @scotranney8456
    @scotranney8456 8 месяцев назад

    That's cool. One vid suggestion I have is to show the finished product first, at least briefly, and then go over the details.

  • @54mgtf22
    @54mgtf22 10 месяцев назад

    Hey John. Love your work 👍

  • @charlieodom9107
    @charlieodom9107 9 месяцев назад

    FINALLY!!!!
    Mark this down peeps! The ONLY man on the internet to correctly state this mod will do nothing for snipe with these planers.
    The only way to eliminate snipe on these planers is to move the snipe to a discarded section of material.

  • @agoogleuser1594
    @agoogleuser1594 10 месяцев назад

    Haha John doesn't know what to do with all those extra hands

  • @edwardchester1
    @edwardchester1 10 месяцев назад

    The outfeed anticipation at the end. :D 👐

  • @wiseoldfool
    @wiseoldfool 10 месяцев назад +1

    Watched, liked and a comment thrown in for good measure (twice, cut once). Hey, I have two thumbs, how come only one of them counts?

  • @EitriBrokkr
    @EitriBrokkr 10 месяцев назад

    Lol the little ending was awesome

  • @KipdoesStuff
    @KipdoesStuff 10 месяцев назад

    Simplicity at its best.

  • @mickdog2
    @mickdog2 10 месяцев назад

    I need to do this. I also need to replace the chipped blades, but.............

  • @sergioaparicio957
    @sergioaparicio957 10 месяцев назад

    Jajaja, that end was funny!! Great video, thanks!

  • @tommysts1920
    @tommysts1920 10 месяцев назад

    John is proof that the more you use your brain the better your dreams come true.

  • @dpmeyer4867
    @dpmeyer4867 10 месяцев назад

    nice work, good ideas

  • @thenext9537
    @thenext9537 8 месяцев назад

    Pretty cool! I Mean you lose like 3/4 but unless you milling rhino leg thick stock, would be fine.

  • @s.spiegel3032
    @s.spiegel3032 10 месяцев назад +5

    You know what I like about this video: It's short, cuts right to the chase and has no unnecessary show off scenes in it - as opposed to the vids of other RUclipsrs. I really appreciate it.
    Cheers

  • @christopherpcline
    @christopherpcline 9 месяцев назад

    John I noticed you're using the A/C adapter on the DeWalt 60V miter saw, another channel had a ton of issues with theirs and essentially DeWalt told them to stop using it as it can ruin your motor, just a heads up, might be something to look into further.

  • @daviddickmeyer5231
    @daviddickmeyer5231 10 месяцев назад

    Nice KISS method!

  • @The42Joker
    @The42Joker 10 месяцев назад

    Great! Very simple and effective. Nice. Maybe a side hustle as a Price Is Right model? *grin*

  • @notkerry7619
    @notkerry7619 10 месяцев назад

    Why not make the miter saw interchangeable with the thickness planer and make the "rails" of the miter station melamine and as wide as the planer?

  • @SeahawkSailor
    @SeahawkSailor 10 месяцев назад

    nice simple project! Thanks!

  • @bobcurtis964
    @bobcurtis964 9 месяцев назад

    Hey John - Could you please describe how you made the dust collector, looks very interesting

  • @lesliespray4744
    @lesliespray4744 8 месяцев назад

    How does the feed belt pull the wood through with that in place

  • @robertyack1661
    @robertyack1661 9 месяцев назад

    Just found your channel! Like your style, sir.
    So obviously this makes the scale inaccurate by the thickness of the melamine, yes? Well worth it for the extra support, and i measure my stock anyway. Right?

  • @rcatank
    @rcatank 8 месяцев назад

    Is your planner working right? Seems like the outfeed side is curving your boards by an 1/8th. Check the footage @4:12. The gap gets bigger the longer the piece.

  • @funnyguy55able
    @funnyguy55able 9 месяцев назад

    Does having this table inside the planner render the thickness scale obsolete? How do you know what thickness you're planning to?

  • @brian777999
    @brian777999 10 месяцев назад

    The minimum thickness that can be planed on the DEWALT is 6mm. Can you go down even thinner after fitting this feed table ?

  • @Gantzz321
    @Gantzz321 10 месяцев назад

    the SUPPORT "leg" appears to be a little to low, going from the gap that appears under the test piece the farther it gets from the planer blades. Super easy fix, or do you consider is not worth the effort (not trying to sound sarcastic just curious, as I would be in the not worth the effort camp)

  • @barryspencerbmx
    @barryspencerbmx 10 месяцев назад

    Nice idea, Are you running the cutter blades or a helix cutter. I switched to the Shelix cutter head. Its unbelievable

  • @frankrodriguez6424
    @frankrodriguez6424 10 месяцев назад

    Use a push block! On that table saw!!

  • @tjacksonwoodworker3726
    @tjacksonwoodworker3726 10 месяцев назад +1

    John, did you do a video on your dust collector. I need to improve mine....a lot

    • @JohnHeisz
      @JohnHeisz  10 месяцев назад +1

      I did! Here it is: ruclips.net/video/h7oWNcIwr7E/видео.html

    • @dwalsh3469
      @dwalsh3469 10 месяцев назад

      Yes he did.

  • @jimthesoundman8641
    @jimthesoundman8641 10 месяцев назад +1

    Do you have problems with the feed rollers getting gunked up with sawdust and whatnot and needing cleaning every so often? If so, what is the best way to do that? I''ve been doing it with rubbing alcohol but I'm not certain this is the best way. Anyone have a better solution?

    • @mikewatson4644
      @mikewatson4644 10 месяцев назад +1

      Some people have had success with Simple Green. Put it on a rag and wipe the roller. Be sure the planer is unplugged. Do what you can reach on the roller, then plug the planer in and turn it on to get to a fresh area. Turn it off and unplug before starting again. It will take multiple tries to get the entire roller. Other suggestions include mineral oil or naptha. Whatever you use, don't put an excessive amount on. Just a small amount on a rag.
      Hope this helps

  • @dlsddlsd
    @dlsddlsd 10 месяцев назад

    I don't own a planer yet but I'm wondering if something like this will through off the depth setting on your planer? If it does how to you adjust?

  • @jamesanderson4040
    @jamesanderson4040 10 месяцев назад

    By using that melamine do you still get snipe?

  • @brian777999
    @brian777999 10 месяцев назад

    What I do not understand is that the much cheaper OZITO 2 blade planer ($350) has no snipe whereas the more expensive DEWALT planer ($1200) does have it. Why is that ?

  • @davidbailey6350
    @davidbailey6350 10 месяцев назад

    Nice idea…..! Thanks…

  • @EvanDeam
    @EvanDeam 10 месяцев назад

    I’m curious… I’ve seen other woodworking RUclipsrs show how you can take rough lumber and make it S4S without a jointer (using a planer and a sled with shims, and a table saw).
    Would making a infeed/outfeed table that spans the length of the machine like you’ve done also automatically act like a planer sled, enabling it to make the faces parallel if you just flipped the piece over?
    Maybe I’m confusing myself or this doesn’t make sense… I’m very much a beginner.

    • @JohnHeisz
      @JohnHeisz  10 месяцев назад +1

      I've never been a fan of trying to joint with a surface planer. Better to get it close with a hand plane, then run it trough the planer to get it as flat as you can.

    • @rafvdp6391
      @rafvdp6391 10 месяцев назад

      If you are new to the channel you just find the ’’ ask Google for woodworking ’’ . Pretty much an answer for every question and solution for every problem you gonna find here or at the website . Don’t forget to read the caption on the top , there is always some info or links to elaborate or give more info .

    • @philshock3805
      @philshock3805 10 месяцев назад +1

      No, a longer indeed/outfeed won't do anything to flatten a twisted board. (The rollers will simply bend the board as it goes through.) You need a sled to which you can place shims under the board to prevent the flattening effect from the rollers. It works great but if you have a lot to do, gets old pretty quick. It's the reason I now have a jointer. :)

    • @robertyack1661
      @robertyack1661 9 месяцев назад

      Very well said, Phil

  • @Matimila59
    @Matimila59 6 месяцев назад

    Smart….🙏🏾

  • @Wordsnwood
    @Wordsnwood 10 месяцев назад

    Okay... what the heck is going on at 4:08... 😆😆 John, I don't think you're taking this seriously enough. 🙄😉
    So, I have to wax my metal tables about once a year or so. Did you ever have to do anything with the Melamine?

    • @JohnHeisz
      @JohnHeisz  10 месяцев назад +1

      Wax free and super slick.

  • @HebronGrandpa
    @HebronGrandpa 10 месяцев назад

    Mine came with stand, extra blades and Set of infeed-outfeed tables. Don't know how I could put extra brace on outfeed?

    • @robertyack1661
      @robertyack1661 9 месяцев назад

      So did mine. Looks like we can just remove our in and out shelves and the mounting bolts. This melamine sits on the main bed...above our shelves...

  • @tehdc
    @tehdc 10 месяцев назад

    Nice

  • @jekareznik3513
    @jekareznik3513 10 месяцев назад

    Полностью одобряю👍

  • @maxwang2537
    @maxwang2537 8 месяцев назад

    I’m not so lucky; my thicknesses has rollers on the lower platform. 😅

  • @Tweeds4916
    @Tweeds4916 10 месяцев назад

    Genius

  • @dboysix26
    @dboysix26 10 месяцев назад

    It’s not every day you get a J Heisz dance.

  • @nedimbuyukafsar6434
    @nedimbuyukafsar6434 10 месяцев назад

    👍👍👍

  • @Wickate
    @Wickate 10 месяцев назад

    Commenting to say thanks John for sharing and for the algorithm

  • @deanwarren8486
    @deanwarren8486 10 месяцев назад

    I don’t know if I got a milk dud or what, but this is the worst planer I’ve ever owned. Constantly trips the on board circuit breaker. Would not remove than a 16th of an inch of pine at a time, so I bought some more expensive knives that weren’t supposed to dull like the factory knives. 30 board feet and the same problem tripping circuit breaker after about 10 minutes of run time and knives are not cutting .

  • @CafeenMan
    @CafeenMan 8 месяцев назад

    Dude, I would like your stuff a lot more if it just worked and didn't require so much setup. For example, your chip-separator. Why are you putting clamps on the lid instead of having a lid that is just sealed and it's ready to go?
    As a real-world person who has shit to get done, this is a thing that's just impeding me when I'm busy and tryiing to accomplish something. I want to plug in my hose and get to work. I don't want to spend time getting everything in the system set up when it should be sitting there just ready to do its job.

  • @Duneslug
    @Duneslug 10 месяцев назад

    Hmmm.. I was all in until I saw one side of that 2x4 wasn't jointed before going through the planer. smh😉

  • @tomnorman5461
    @tomnorman5461 4 месяца назад

    Weak

  • @RambozoClown
    @RambozoClown 10 месяцев назад +2

    So when is the snipe hunt?

  • @jeffwells8646
    @jeffwells8646 10 месяцев назад +3

    John, once again something creative, useful and informative in just over 4 minutes. Many RUclipsrs would still be completing their obnoxious intros and begging for likes and subscribers.

  • @genelomas332
    @genelomas332 10 месяцев назад +4

    Hi John, after many years of coveting this thicknesser, it FINALLY went on sale at a price I could justify (still over 1100 bucks Australian at bunnings), and now I'll be making a sled like this in the near future, cheers for the motivation 👍

  • @YS-by7wy
    @YS-by7wy 10 месяцев назад +3

    Awesome ideas! I especially liked the dramatic reenactment of planing a board at the end!

  • @MemphisBlues-JG
    @MemphisBlues-JG 10 месяцев назад +3

    As always, my favorite You Tube Woodworker, John Heisz shows again that he thinks on a different plane than mere mortals like me do. Brilliant John. Just love your posts. Always learn something from you. Thanks.

  • @ltrtiger
    @ltrtiger 10 месяцев назад +2

    One of my favorite RUclipsrs. Don't ever change.

  • @deanwilliams93
    @deanwilliams93 8 месяцев назад +1

    What I really liked is the hop dance watching the wood pass. I really reminds me of Chris Squire, YES bassist doing his walk during his signature walk playing Fish.

  • @jk_woodworks
    @jk_woodworks 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great, simple addition. I'll have to do this if I ever get around to making a stand for my planer.

  • @andrewconnor4429
    @andrewconnor4429 10 месяцев назад +1

    Very cool with the pockets and cleats for supports. I do something similar with my router table that attaches to my bench, but at a 90 to the floor not on an angle here, which could have so many uses for so many projects... Yet another invention of yours i will have in my shop buddy!

  • @robertbamford8266
    @robertbamford8266 9 месяцев назад

    Support pockets allowing longer outfeed! 👍

  • @mikewatson4644
    @mikewatson4644 10 месяцев назад

    When I saw the title, my first thought was "What's John doing with my old girlfriend?"

  • @firefighter9901
    @firefighter9901 7 месяцев назад

    Kind of a dumb question but what type of glue are you using to attach to melamine?

  • @beer1for2break3fast4
    @beer1for2break3fast4 10 месяцев назад

    Either your board was warped or that outflow table was low.

  • @bobhaddock957
    @bobhaddock957 9 месяцев назад

    noticed you do not have zero clearance on your chop saw ???

  • @rafvdp6391
    @rafvdp6391 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great solution John , love the simplicity of it. 👌

  • @propertystuff7221
    @propertystuff7221 10 месяцев назад

    LOL that ending! XD

  • @capemaster123
    @capemaster123 10 месяцев назад

    Nice! Great idea I'll be using. Thanks for sharing John.

  • @jeffforbes3772
    @jeffforbes3772 10 месяцев назад

    Rock on John!

  • @Immolate62
    @Immolate62 10 месяцев назад

    Plans????!!!!!
    j/k, nice idea, John. A lot easier to build than your screw-advance box joint jig.

  • @creak788
    @creak788 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks you just solved my problems. Brilliant

  • @AlmondCreekWoodshop
    @AlmondCreekWoodshop 10 месяцев назад

    Looking at making this for my lunch box planner. The adjustments on the infield and out field don’t work good. Have a piece of white board left over from my table build.

  • @NiceAlex
    @NiceAlex 10 месяцев назад

    I just got a planer so this is perfect timing! A great low-profile solution.
    I'm always curious about videos with "almost done" music towards the end of the video. It tends to take me out of the video because then I'm just anxious for it to end or thinking about what I'm going to watch next. Always wondered what the reasoning is behind it, besides branding.

  • @MRrwmac
    @MRrwmac 10 месяцев назад

    John, Thanks for the video. NIce upgrades. Does you sled (old and new) eliminate snipe?

  • @dale1956ties
    @dale1956ties 10 месяцев назад

    Cool! So simple yet effective. Well done sir.

  • @johnsrabe
    @johnsrabe 10 месяцев назад

    That is now the best 2 x 4 in the provinces.

  • @jagx3730
    @jagx3730 8 месяцев назад

    Great editing and simplicity!