I am a wannabe machinist at 73, just hobby work, and I have learned so much from your videos. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and education.
Love your old school videos I took my apprenticeships from a 45 year tool and die machinist . Your videos remind me of him. Thank you for teaching the newer generation something that is not taught anymore.
It has crossed my mind a few times, that you could make a digital height gauge, using a $10 digital caliper. You would start by milling off the fixed jaws, parallel to the shaft of the caliper. Next, you would mill the back of the moving jaw, to leave the jaw parallel. You would then mount the modified caliper, onto either a shop bought, or home made, height gauge base, and attach the scriber bit to the modified moving jaw of the digital caliper. Hey presto, you have a digital height gauge, for a fraction of the price of a proprietary one.
Certainly far more accurate than using a scale/rule. I've got one from Aldi, which cost me about £8 a few years ago, and it's accurate to within about a thou.
Another fine video. I remember back to the mid 60's when I was in metal shop in high school. My teacher was the only teacher that didn't hate me. I wish you were there. I also wish you could make it to the summer bash. I would like to meet you. Bill from Seattle
these latest projects are amazing. fantastic techniques, and building and understanding the workings of tools/devices that improve one's shop! thank you!!!
hi Mr pete , i am a microbiologist (soft hands lol) , never been in a machine shop, and i realy enjoy watching your videos, machining looks fun good luck
Hi tubalcain, great video again👍would you consider doing a video about cutting oil and coolant on mill and lathe work? I.e when to use it when not to, what types for different materials etc. when I was learning we used a soluble oil feed on the Colchester for most ops as it was said to have better cooling property, but I don't see that out there anymore. Hope you don't mind me using this to place a request.. Manny Thanks
The guys with CNC would have (a) failed to produce a drawing because their cad software would not update properly, so they work on that for a couple of hours then (b) produced a corrupt g-code file, so they work on that for a couple of hours, then (c) break their last remaining end mill because they forgot to change a feed rate, so they wait a couple of days for one of those. By which time you have produced the height gauge, twice, and all the videos.
Just watching the milling operation and I thought I would point out to anyone building this that depending on how you hold the bar and machine the slot for the rule relative to the other flat will hand the height gauge either left or right.
Interesting project. Could you make one suitable for mounting a cheap digital scale to? You could then have a 'Poor mans' precision height gauge. Cheers Crispin
Why don't you just use a remanufactured digital caliper as the donor part, all it takes is a flat polished base to mount it in and a bit of surgery to the caliper..........I made one and a friend borrowed it and I never got it back.
Why not use a digital caliper to measure the height. Set scribe on surface plate and clamp head. Measure from bottom of base to top of slider and zero caliper now you can measure height accurately. I made a depth Gage for my Starter Master vernier caliper similar to this. Make a head with 1/8 hole and set screw use a 1/8" diameter piece of drill rod 8" long for measuring rod and make a 1/2" button with set screw hole to lock button on 1/8" drill rod. Set rod through hole to surface plate and clamp with set screw set caliper to 6" and use as Gage to set button and clamp. Then all you have to do to measure a depth is measure head to button and subtract from 6". I have been wanting to make one of these with a 1/16" rod for smaller holes and slots.
I'm glad to see you're using that nice German rotary table you took so much time to recondition. And here you thought it was likely too big to be of any use to you.
Mrpete when someone wants to make something very precise no tool it's enough for that. Let say, i need to make something with two surfaces at 9° 10' 27". How many people has in his homeshop that kind of tool to set that freaky angle?
I've got a height gauge I picked up at an auction for 10 euros. I looked it up on the internet and it was made in the early 50's and would have cost you roughly the same as a good secondhand car at the time.....
Search is your friend: www.ebay.com/itm/General-Tools-301-1-6-inch-x-1-4-inch-Flex-Stainless-Steel-Graduated-32-64-/272393753728?hash=item3f6beed480:g:I34AAOSwOyJX6~NE www.amazon.com/General-Tools-301-Precision-Stainless/dp/B00004T7SZ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490539146&sr=8-1&keywords=General+301%2F1
Thanks. I did search, but those results don't come up on U.K. versions of the websites. Shipping from the U.S. has become crippling recently, so I'll have to look for Chinese alternatives. Perhaps your new president will do something useful and help your export economy to beat the Far Eastern competition.
I did look for a Chinese version, but with no luck. Might not be much call for a narrow scale. Our new president has already been far more useful than our last one. We had nowhere to go but up.
Hi mrpete, Let me know where and when you get his scrap aluminum at 20 cents a pound, I'll be there soon... ;) I've got my DeLorean powered up and ready to go after I set the date... lol Cheers, Pierre
Can someone help me please? I've got an atlas craftsman 10 inch lathe and the hole that goes through the headstock has some kind of factory hardened bushing in it. It's bigger than the #2 morse taper tailstock so I always thought it was a #3 morse taper but I ordered a #3 and it's too big to fit. What kind of taper is it? Can I get the bushing out and then is the spindle hole a #3 morse? I tried to lightly tap it out but it didn't budge, it's not threaded is it? Sorry for the long post but I know there's a bunch of knowledgable folks here and don't personally know anyone to ask.
Provided you have a dial test indicator and the compound on the lathe, feed the compound in and out indicating against the taper until you read zero. Once your indicator reads zero, feed all the way in, chuck up any round stock(that has been faced), get a sharp tool and center it. Feed the compound all the way out, advance the carriage forward, and check how far off center you are. The distance you moved forward with the carriage and the distance from center are the two sides of the triangle that make up your taper.
what do you call the indicator posts that have a living hinge on them? Like, it bends a 1/16th sheet of aluminum slightly upon the rotation of a knob to lift something very slightly
it has a big casting that has a 'piston' connected to a screw which bends the lever arm. I found one and I mounted it to a aluminum block (to place in my granite blocks thread inserts to make a digital indicator stand, I mounted one of those adjustable machinists arms to it with a fowler on the end
@@mrpete222 interesting, I don'[t know why it was made other then to maybe trim out indicators without having to touch them? It could also be optics lab equipment or something Because, it would change the angle so slightly if you move it.
You like the dial type because you have skills and can use them. Individuals who can do actual machine work are becoming fewer and farther between. CNC machinist are just setup men.
I am a wannabe machinist at 73, just hobby work, and I have learned so much from your videos. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and education.
Thanks for watching
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Always a pleasure to be in your "classroom".
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John Baugh a
John Baugh this really knows his stuff
Great timing on this series. Yesterday I started searching the net for ideas on building my own gauge so was excited to see this series start today.
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It was great to see you in person with Adam Booth, and onwards into the breach delivering more fantastic content, thank you Mr Pete!
Thanks for watching.
This is a wonderful project. A height gauge such as this one would be perfect for my knifemaking. Thanks, Mr. Pete!
Thanks for watching.
Love your old school videos I took my apprenticeships from a 45 year tool and die machinist . Your videos remind me of him. Thank you for teaching the newer generation something that is not taught anymore.
Thank you for watching, and that die maker must've been a great guy
no!! i was like. wait! video ended!! im melting...... 😃😃😃 cant wait for the follow-up..... great job teach!!!
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Sure wish you were my shop teacher when I was in school.
Thanks Mr. Pete.
Thanks for watching.
It has crossed my mind a few times, that you could make a digital height gauge, using a $10 digital caliper.
You would start by milling off the fixed jaws, parallel to the shaft of the caliper.
Next, you would mill the back of the moving jaw, to leave the jaw parallel.
You would then mount the modified caliper, onto either a shop bought, or home made, height gauge base, and attach the scriber bit to the modified moving jaw of the digital caliper.
Hey presto, you have a digital height gauge, for a fraction of the price of a proprietary one.
afaict the cheap ones are good enough, they just eat batteries
Certainly far more accurate than using a scale/rule.
I've got one from Aldi, which cost me about £8 a few years ago, and it's accurate to within about a thou.
They only eat batteries, if they're left switched on.
The one I have, switches itself off after a couple of minutes of non-use.
the ones I've seen people measure the current consumption on there was basically no difference between on and off
My batteries last for months.
Another fine video. I remember back to the mid 60's when I was in metal shop in high school. My teacher was the only teacher that didn't hate me. I wish you were there. I also wish you could make it to the summer bash. I would like to meet you.
Bill from Seattle
Looking forward to watching this series Mr. Pete!
Thanks for watching.
these latest projects are amazing. fantastic techniques, and building and understanding the workings of tools/devices that improve one's shop!
thank you!!!
hi Mr pete , i am a microbiologist (soft hands lol) , never been in a machine shop, and i realy enjoy watching your videos, machining looks fun good luck
Thanks for watching
Look forward for the next part. Another great video Thank You for the knowledge you part to us! Thank You Mr Pete.
Thanks for watching.
Another fascinating project. A height gauge is indeed a super useful tool.
Thanks for watching.
Hi tubalcain, great video again👍would you consider doing a video about cutting oil and coolant on mill and lathe work? I.e when to use it when not to, what types for different materials etc. when I was learning we used a soluble oil feed on the Colchester for most ops as it was said to have better cooling property, but I don't see that out there anymore. Hope you don't mind me using this to place a request.. Manny Thanks
Thanks for watching.
4:15 Hey, look! It's the Matthias Wandel version height gauge!
Noooo.... If Mathias did it, it would made from three different types of scrap wood and accurate to a tenth
Tubalcain thank you, you are such a useful teacher and excellent.
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Another interesting project. Looking forward to seeing the rest. Regards.
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I like the scale insert method. Great idea.
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The guys with CNC would have (a) failed to produce a drawing because their cad software would not update properly, so they work on that for a couple of hours then (b) produced a corrupt g-code file, so they work on that for a couple of hours, then (c) break their last remaining end mill because they forgot to change a feed rate, so they wait a couple of days for one of those. By which time you have produced the height gauge, twice, and all the videos.
lol
Really enjoying this, look forward to more.
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Hello Lyle, I saw one of these on EBay for about $35.00. But then you would not have the joy of making one. All the best, Edgar
Just watching the milling operation and I thought I would point out to anyone building this that depending on how you hold the bar and machine the slot for the rule relative to the other flat will hand the height gauge either left or right.
True-Thanks for watching.
Interesting project. Could you make one suitable for mounting a cheap digital scale to? You could then have a 'Poor mans' precision height gauge.
Cheers
Crispin
Why don't you just use a remanufactured digital caliper as the donor part, all it takes is a flat polished base to mount it in and a bit of surgery to the caliper..........I made one and a friend borrowed it and I never got it back.
CNC guys would still be working out gcode by the time you're done with the part :)
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David Berndt hmm yea and purchase 500 $ in tool holders to make it
@@miguelcastaneda7236 B/S....
Where can you find a thin rule like that?
It's not always about the destination but the JOURNEY 😎👍👍
Yes
just found your videos, you put a lot information in the videos. easy to watch and learn from. thank you sir.
Thanks for watching.
another great video mr. Pete
Thanks
Why not use a digital caliper to measure the height. Set scribe on surface plate and clamp head. Measure from bottom of base to top of slider and zero caliper now you can measure height accurately. I made a depth Gage for my Starter Master vernier caliper similar to this. Make a head with 1/8 hole and set screw use a 1/8" diameter piece of drill rod 8" long for measuring rod and make a 1/2" button with set screw hole to lock button on 1/8" drill rod.
Set rod through hole to surface plate and clamp with set screw set caliper to 6" and use as Gage to set button and clamp. Then all you have to do to measure a depth is measure head to button and subtract from 6".
I have been wanting to make one of these with a 1/16" rod for smaller holes and slots.
That is a good idea, I never thought of it
I'm glad to see you're using that nice German rotary table you took so much time to recondition. And here you thought it was likely too big to be of any use to you.
Thanks
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Pretty cool stuff Mr. Pete.
Thanks for watching.
Mrpete when someone wants to make something very precise no tool it's enough for that. Let say, i need to make something with two surfaces at 9° 10' 27". How many people has in his homeshop that kind of tool to set that freaky angle?
Superb!
I've got a height gauge I picked up at an auction for 10 euros. I looked it up on the internet and it was made in the early 50's and would have cost you roughly the same as a good secondhand car at the time.....
Good buy
Good buy
Lyle,
The advantage of a dial height gage is it doesn't have a battery that will go dead. :-)
Thanks
My search for something exactly like this for knife making has led me to your video. Are you interested in selling one of these? Amazing craftsmanship
Sorry
Lyle ; I would love to have some of your toys, in my shed., Regards Frank
It's true, I have a lot of toys
I prefer manual machines over CNC, for one I know nothing about CNC.
I can never find part 2 of the videos. They aren't lined up. I'm guessing this project turned out ok as well as the making of the compound slide. ?
Do a search or go into the play list
The play list isn't arranged by video numbers. I searched for a long time and gave up- You have a LOT of videos. LOL. I'll keep looking- Thanks.
For a stable combination square (a bit pricey) check out the LaSquare LAS-12S
The head is aluminum, not cast iron
Thanks for sharing sir...
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Dude I thought the thumbnail was a Minecraft Steve looking at the camera while wall sitting against the height gauge.
I really love to watch your video.
Thanks for watching.
Digital Apple to the Teacher!
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Thanks once again for the inspiration. One question - where did you get that narrow scale?
@tubalcain I would like to know that too
Search is your friend:
www.ebay.com/itm/General-Tools-301-1-6-inch-x-1-4-inch-Flex-Stainless-Steel-Graduated-32-64-/272393753728?hash=item3f6beed480:g:I34AAOSwOyJX6~NE
www.amazon.com/General-Tools-301-Precision-Stainless/dp/B00004T7SZ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490539146&sr=8-1&keywords=General+301%2F1
Thanks. I did search, but those results don't come up on U.K. versions of the websites. Shipping from the U.S. has become crippling recently, so I'll have to look for Chinese alternatives. Perhaps your new president will do something useful and help your export economy to beat the Far Eastern competition.
I did look for a Chinese version, but with no luck. Might not be much call for a narrow scale.
Our new president has already been far more useful than our last one. We had nowhere to go but up.
Or perhaps, not. He's mostly plays golf and tweets.
Hi mrpete,
Let me know where and when you get his scrap aluminum at 20 cents a pound, I'll be there soon... ;)
I've got my DeLorean powered up and ready to go after I set the date... lol
Cheers, Pierre
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HECK YES! Thanks Tubalcain!!!
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Excellent project, a height gauge is handy for any shop.
C&C is boring, it's like hiring someone to chew your food.
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I remember you from some of my old Yahoo groups. I use to go by Latheturners9c on the groups.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching
Great video, thanks.
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THANK YOU...for sharing.
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Hi mr pete would you make video for optical flat or optical parallel
How to use and get accurate reading
I do not own an optical flat
Thanks mr pete whenever you have make one in furure please i like watching your videos there are in very details thanks for replaying
Thsnks
Can someone help me please? I've got an atlas craftsman 10 inch lathe and the hole that goes through the headstock has some kind of factory hardened bushing in it. It's bigger than the #2 morse taper tailstock so I always thought it was a #3 morse taper but I ordered a #3 and it's too big to fit. What kind of taper is it? Can I get the bushing out and then is the spindle hole a #3 morse? I tried to lightly tap it out but it didn't budge, it's not threaded is it? Sorry for the long post but I know there's a bunch of knowledgable folks here and don't personally know anyone to ask.
Provided you have a dial test indicator and the compound on the lathe, feed the compound in and out indicating against the taper until you read zero. Once your indicator reads zero, feed all the way in, chuck up any round stock(that has been faced), get a sharp tool and center it. Feed the compound all the way out, advance the carriage forward, and check how far off center you are. The distance you moved forward with the carriage and the distance from center are the two sides of the triangle that make up your taper.
Very useful project with lots of new operations! Second but FIRST with a useful comment! LOL
lol
Dang, sometimes I really wish I were you!!
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that is a healthy drill bit you got there, seeing it producing such nice chips.. man.. sigh
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what do you call the indicator posts that have a living hinge on them? Like, it bends a 1/16th sheet of aluminum slightly upon the rotation of a knob to lift something very slightly
it has a big casting that has a 'piston' connected to a screw which bends the lever arm. I found one and I mounted it to a aluminum block (to place in my granite blocks thread inserts to make a digital indicator stand, I mounted one of those adjustable machinists arms to it with a fowler on the end
and it deflects the lever arm by raising a ball bearing embedded in the top that touches the piston flat
raising a piston top that touches a embedded ball bearing*
Do not think I have ever seen one of them
@@mrpete222 interesting, I don'[t know why it was made other then to maybe trim out indicators without having to touch them? It could also be optics lab equipment or something
Because, it would change the angle so slightly if you move it.
I'd rather be laughed at as a machinist than be laughing as a button pusher. :)
That's a good one
nice
Just bought one the other day.... Bummer!!!
Ace hardware or ebay
Your having to much fun
lol
You like the dial type because you have skills and can use them. Individuals who can do actual machine work are becoming fewer and farther between. CNC machinist are just setup men.
Has anyone got so stuff forsale I’m a poor man myself need some stuff for my lathe tooling etc don’t have a mill to make parts yet lol
eric oneil With a some bar and blocks it is doable
First👍🏽
And that gets you what?