Alcohol most likely, everytime me and my ex would drink i would empty all the guns and hide the bullets. Arguments are almost guaranteed in post family get togethers with alcohol. Women fear for their safety only when they are mad it seems lol
I honestly love how compliant and calm the poor lady was with the police, she just wanted to make sure everything would be okay. It sucks that he had to aim the gun at the police though.
He didn't 'have to' do anything. He CHOSE to do that, and paid the price. There are consequences for every action we decide to undertake. Some big, some small, some good, some bad, but they ALL stem from the choices we make in the first place. He made a poor decision and faced consequences for it.
@@dylanwhitmer5325 Never saw this because I dropped this account entirely, I never meant "he had to" as if it was a fight or flight situation, I meant more as a past term. I don't have the best grammar.
@Harlod Shekelbond Imagine if she went to bed after her husband was talking nonses and was holding a gun, and on top of that chambered a round?! YOU ARE CRAZY You are now blaming this woman who refused to be told what to do? How about blaming the man who had the gun!
Mistake number one why stand directly in front of the door your knocking on ? Cop got blasted that way in Alabama about 5 years ago … ambush .. best knock from the side and get low
You would think it to come natural and overcome their reasoning for always stacking up. The more officer's I have spoken to aren't the gunfighters I thought they were. Hopefully they learn seriously....Well said brotha. 1997-2006 Marine infantryman Sgt. 100P.T. retired....Josh
@@joshuaforbus5853 yessir thank you for your service . Even though these guys are trained some are still just better at it , humans aren’t equal in any aspect in my oppinon . Lotta people serve but not all are warriors . These guys in my oppinon acted very dangerously and carelessly , seemed actualy like two rentacops . Once they hear “gun “ they shoulda called for back up , sat tight wirh the lady and got more info from her , in my oppinon both would be dead now if that guy was a killer or at least wanted to kill that night . Much love sir keep your boots close
@@calvin3446 lol so you're just going to ignore the part where he was armed and threatened his wife with a gun? You don't think an armed coward who has to use a gun to have an argument with his wife might be a threat to cops? I get it, how could a keyboard warrior like you even know what a lethal threat is, all of those TV shows that you watch didn't properly train you for a real life encounter with an armed man lol.
they were stacked, he only stood in front to open the door because of the metal door, still, he opened from the wrong side, never open doors from the hinge side
@@jarrodperry2984 No, but it's NOT a good idea to open the door while standing dead center in the opening. Gun confirmed inside. Suspect panics when he hears the door opening and blasts through 1.5 inches of wood at close range. Cop opening the door eats a few. They are trained not to do that.
As a former officer of nearly a decade, I can tell you thst even my small police department would have NEVER handled it this way. This was one of the most hastily executed plans (If you call it a plan). Its almost as if they were excited and wanted to hurry to get into a shooting. The statement they got from her was BARELY sufficent for the basic probable cause they had to arrest him. He asmed a leading question of "Did you fear for your safety?" And she responds, "Yes" and his brain went "DING DING DING! AHA! We have a magic word for our basic peobable cause statement". The victim was specific that she feared he was going to kill himself. A proper response for an armed barricaded man would have been to set a perimeter with more officers, hand out less than lethal weapons, get your negotiotor officer to call him on his cell or house phone, pre deploy medics and fire dept nearby and try to convince him to come out peacefully. I think these officers are justified in the shooting but Jesus... just because we can doesnt me we SHOULD
@@bobe3250 this is not true. I gave an objective opinion and with extensive personal policing experience. There is no room for radical thoughts like " theyre all trained to kill ". I have so much time to prove that we are (most of us) trained to de-escalate and prevent loss of life.
@@bobe3250 Yes. They are. It used to be shoot to stop, but I heard some years back that the preferred method now is to unload several rounds into the suspect, starting with the hips and moving up into the torso. The idea of going home at the end of their shift is drilled into them as their #1 goal. If some citizen gets wounded or killed, so be it. They have their qualifed immunity, department, union, and DA on their side. They know there's a slim chance of being found guilty of wrongdoing. That being said, sometimes they have to shoot. But all in all, these people are simply dangerous and it is best to avoid them.
Yeah he's in there alone nobody to hurt.. WHY ENTER?!?! Just escalating for no reason.. Risking his and your own lives.. Just call for backup and talk him out.
@@AFFI909 all u do is combat every comment on this and (probably) other channels. Grow up, and go read ur Bible quietly instead of bashing ur delicate fragile personality.
The wife had to have known this wasnt going to end well. She was worried about him hurting himself because he had a gun so she called the cops and told them he had a gun and was acting crazy. There's no way she didn't know this was going to turn out bad.
There's no way the suspect didn't know this was going to turn out bad either, so... at the end of the day people have to be accountable and responsible for their own actions. This is his own fault.
His wife did the right thing. He could've shot anyone coming through that door. His wife even said that she feared for her own safety, so he could've been intending to kill her. "The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims." ~Colonel Roy Campbell, Metal Gear Solid 2
The government should’ve known not to give idiots weapons, especially military soldiers for killing millions around the world whom of which returned to the USA with ptsd and joined the police 😂
Never ask a woman to tell you “briefly”. I imagine that cop is not married. He should have just said “did he point the gun at you and did you tear for your safety? Yes or no?” And he still might have got the whole story.
You Americans justifying the police shooting this guy just don't get it do you ! You think shooting a man over a argument because he wouldn't comply with commands while in his own home is ok, then you truly are a lost cause.
His wife did the right thing. How do you know he was suicidal? Besides pointing his "9 Glock Millimeter" at the police. He could've shot anyone coming through that door. His wife even said that she feared for her own safety, so he could've been intending to kill her. "The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims." ~Colonel Roy Campbell, Metal Gear Solid 2
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@nobody. Yes. Read the news article. It said that they fired 2 shots at him. The video shows a third shot after the door is opened with the rifle pointing downwards. That third bullet was for the dog.
It's not just about him harming himself, he is a danger to others and needs to be confronted, he chose to confront the cops with a gun, that's the way it is going to turn out.
He is in his home with a firearm and you shoot him in his home? Surely there is another way this could have gone down? You only took the word on one person who may have been lying. Has he got a mobile phone? Can we call him?
@@SixDaysOTR maybe he wanted to get some sympathy by pretending to want to harm himself... or maybe she lied and tried to kill him, and he was defending against her entering and stabbing him.... point is the cops jumped to conclusions and just took her word for it
The police announced their presence. He knew they were there let alone there for HIM. I'm Pro 2A and don't think you should be blasted for holding a gun but when the police ANNOUNCE themselves and you come in view holding that piece it's a split second, them or you.
@@SirViving Maybe and no. She could have lied, I've been a victim of that, but the cops made their presence known, he heard them and still had the gun in his hand. Don't make excuses for this guy. If he had actually killed her, would you defend him still if he was shot by police. It seems common sense cease to exist. Fact is, if he didn't have a gun in his hand and used his brain, at best he would be alive sitting in a jail cell eating Ramen paid for by the very person who put him there. But again common sense was not on his side..
Why ..?? If the victim is outside why not take her to safety and return for the husband at a later date or issue a warrant..??? Instead of invading his home by opening the door and hunting him down..? I think it could have been avoided..but what do I know...
She confirmed she wasn't threatened, til the cop lead her into saying she "felt" threatened, therefore giving them the (apparent?) right to storm and shoot
These situations are rarely going to end any other way. Someone armed behaving this way has violent intent against others or themselves. The police are there to end the threat. Being this type of situation the armed individual is rarely going to comply and drop the gun it's just inevitable they will get shot. If you have an issue with this don't call cops. If they shoot someone because of your inaction that's kind of partially on you. Suicidal/homicidal people when confronted are just going to likely get shot refusing to disarm.
How do you know he was suicidal? Besides pointing his "9 Glock Millimeter" at the police. His wife even said that she feared for her own safety, so he could've been intending to kill her. "The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims." ~Colonel Roy Campbell, Metal Gear Solid 2
So if someone is crazy and armed just don't call the police, he will deal with himself and definitely not harm anybody. Your iq must be higher than 110 brother😄. I hope you get in this situation, then i wanna hear your thoughts. If they won't reason, can't stand there and get shot
The greater lesson is that if you feel moody towards your spouse, don't touch the firearm and act tough or she might call the guards and put you in the ground.
Why are people saying there were three shots, one for the dog? I hear only two shots. Can't find any information as to whether it was shot too, or if it ran away.
Notice that when she said the boyfriend didn't threaten her with the gun, the officer asked if she "felt" threatened, which seemed enough in his mind to make an arrest. My question is.....we know it's against the law to threaten someone, but is it also against the law if a person "feels" threatened by you but you haven't made a threat ?
His wife did the right thing. How do you know he was suicidal? Besides pointing his "9 Glock Millimeter" at the police. He could've shot anyone coming through that door. His wife even said that she feared for her own safety, so he could've been intending to kill her. "The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims." ~Colonel Roy Campbell, Metal Gear Solid 2
Did the point officer not have a body cam (or did I miss something)? I'm curious as to whether or not he simply had the gun in his hand, or did he raise it, or point it at the officer? So many officers are now trigger happy with little to no accountability. I'd like to see what happened, not what's written in a report. I seriously question the justification of this shooting.
I would love to know where you get your info on so many officers being trigger happy today!!! Cops are too scared today to even arrest someone because they can be sued for literally doing their job...
It Don't matter what he was doing with the gun, having it is fair game, when the call is for "Hands" you know the drill. If you drop gun & show empty raised hands, you don't get shot. If you drop your hands & raise a gun. You Get Shot. Simple.
As a Marine combat veteran, I don’t understand the choice in weapons on this one. The second officer had an M-16 variant. When I was in, we used the M-16A2. I’m not familiar with the new little guys besides the collapsible stock and shorter barrel. That being said. If I were the officer, I would have chosen a DP-12. First two rounds could have been beanbag rounds. 2nd two could be bird shot, followed by 12 gauge. There are two points did this. The DP - 12 is a shotgun. It makes a better impression, you get a tasty differences in your rounds, it’s meant for close encounter House to house fights and you can use non-lethal rounds.
Is every patrol car supposed to outfitted with an armory? The M4, short barrel rifle, was adopted due to its ease of use in close quarters yet still maintaining effectiveness at medium to long range.
He had a hard on to use that rifle...This is one i disagree with. If someone is banging on the door I would be armed too. They knew how this was going to play out and LOVED IT!
The officers made a lot of bad calls, and a half-decent lawyer will get this thrown out. First, the officers are taking someone claiming to be wife at their word. Although it doesn't show it prior to the recording, it's possible they verified her license as being a resident of the home. However, that alone doesn't necessarily mean much. There could have been an argument prior, and the wife called police as retribution. The officers only verbally identified themselves police once before opening the door with the keys, at night. When the dog started barking, they didn't identify themselves as police, and nor did they identify themselves when Dekeyser appeared. With the officer's lights on, all the officers said was, "HANDS! HANDS! HANDS!". There is so much reasonable doubt that Dekeyser could have thought it was a home invasion.
You are very right, this is a great video to show how not to handle domestic disputes. The cop assume the woman was the victim and decided he was going to shoot the guy. This could have been handled far better, cops need better training, don't they have negotiators in their ranks?
You're basing most of your useless points on a video that has been cut for content on the internet. They wouldve confirmed the woman lived there easily as she clearly had already explained herself. Officers will not shoot even if a gun is in your hand, unless it's aimed (they clearly have disapline or he'd be dead). The officers announced themsevles, he knew fine well it was the police. The dude had a meltdown, plain and simple.
@@TyrooShino you're going off the assumption that he had a meltdown. If he did, then there needs to be more evidence of that. I see no such evidence based on what has been provided in the video, and the conversation that took place between the officers and the woman claiming to be the wife. The only evidence provided was a single individual making the claim. Someone claiming to be the spouse, even if true as I previously stated, doesn't eliminate potential nefarious motivations for calling the police under false pretenses. Which is all too common in domestic disputes taught in most police academies and from the basic experience of any patrol officer. Warrants are usually not conducted at night unless it's under unique circumstances, for the very same reasons we see here. Because its dangerous due to confusion and inability of the occupants to discern if the police really are police, or home invaders masquerading as police. It's not unheard of that home invaders will falsely claim to be police. Additionally, officers should have announced themselves more clearly and multiple times if they were to have entered under, but ideally try to make contact by calling Dekeyser. Unless there was exigent circumstances of someone being held hostage with Dekeyser claiming he'll execute them after a certain time, then I see no reasonable legal need to enter without a warrant. Stating "Police" once, waiting a while, not saying it when the dogs bark, then entering with flashlights pointing at the Dekeyser''s face without further saying police when flashlights should create enough reasonable doubt to acquit in front of a jury or dismissed by a judge if Dekeyser has a half-decent attorney.
Wants her privacy in the other room to message her side piece Or wants to check her DM’s in privacy He knows something is up and gets upset, she spins the story a bit, now she’s in the clear, he’s out of her life. Simple
You can't bring her back and ask her to write a novel, the severity of the crime is the first thing you need to take care of and then once everything is done. That's when you fully investigate.
I can’t say this was a justified shoot. The officers jumped way too many preventative steps and escalated to deadly force. Just because the man is allowed to carry, especially in his own home, does not give the police the go-ahead to shoot on sight.
WE weren't waiting for you to call it a justified or unjustified shooting. WE must assume that you have no experience in the law, tactical requirements and applicable state statutes. Therefore....take the day off and head back to Facebook.
@Phumgwate Nagala Yeah sure. Tell us specifically where this is so that we can compare statistics. Doubtful that a country with rudimentary plumbing would be so advanced in law enforcement.
@@RLTtizME Who’s “WE”? Unless you have a dual personality complex, I suggest refrain from speaking for other people other than yourself. Second, you don’t know me or my “qualifications”, so please, try to tell me, who actually knows my career, what I know or don’t know. Every bit of your response screams woeful ignorance. Especially your personal attack rather to actually provide a decent point to the conversation.
@@doiron12 her fearing for her safety isn't a crime. filing false statements is a crime. women are always afraid for their safety. so really nothing even happened.
@@anumisha2302 so you’re assuming that the woman lied about this incident? From what I can tel on video shows the suspect holding a gun in his hand. That’s the same thing the female said. In addition, police would be accountable if they didn’t do anything. Imagine if you heard her story and you just told her to go back inside the house after she said she was in fear along with the suspect having a firearm. Then somehow she gets killed by that man after you left.. what are you doing to do now? People like you would’ve been saying something along the lines of “why didn’t the police go in there to arrest him?! She said he threatened her with a gun etc etc..” that’s that’s wrong with you people.
@Truth Teller Even if the woman gave permission, that doesn't mean the man had to agree with that permission and he does not have to open the door to any cops who have no search warrant nor probable cause... FEELING threatened is NOT probable cause.
This is cannot be allowed to be repeated. It was a fundamental violation of his constitutional rights. That woman could be lying for all they know and he could have been asleep and unaware of anything happening until the dog barked.
oh it happens ALL THE TIME! I lost 5 months of my life and could have went to prison for 15 years because my cheating X said she was ( guess what, ) in FEAR OF HER LIFE ! see how the cops used those words and as soon as she agreed they went on the hunt! ) funny, they asked me nothing! just threw me in the back if the car and took me away! thank God her mother and father testified against her in court! charges dropped. life SUCKS. WOMEN SUCK HARDER. COPS LIKE THESE? SWALLOW.
Sure, a possible armed and dangerous man should be not investigated, the problem would just solve itself, right? They shout police for a reason. Also the world is not perfect, deal with it.
Play foolish games don't end well. She probably wanted that dude to get shot she was sick of him. She gave the key said he had gun and knew it wasn't going to end well!!!
It sounded like they did shoot the dog. They had to rush in and render first aid. There was a shot right after they shot him. I think that was the dog.
“Poorly handled” Yeah that’s okay coming from people who couldn’t talk themselves away from a pizza, much less talk to an individual bearing a firearm.
The dude lived. I couldn’t see how it could’ve gone better! You hold a weapon towards a cop you’re lucky if you walk away alive. So I’d say this one is a win!
@@3DFLYLOW doesn't matter because no crime carries a punishment of summary execution. But it doesn't matter whether you've committed a crime, if you do what this guy did you're very likely to get shot
@@LJR_LIMITED It was poorly handled by the police. They knocked and ID'd themselves once and within 5 secs they decided to entry. Poor police training.
So I'm confused on this one. It was a domestic dispute call, but he didn't actually threaten anyone. Technically, this man was just carrying a gun in his own home and the cops came in and shot him. Shouldn't this have been a negotiation thing first instead of just breaching and shooting?
Yeah technically it has a couple of issues but her giving them permission to enter and all that is a problem the second she said she feared for her life they were allowed to enter without a warrant.
100% agree - she said she wasn't threatened, but then the cop lead her into saying she FELT threatened, thus giving them -their excuse- probable cause :-\
@@sakesan6828 Yeah to be fair once the police show up it ends like this no matter what unless he puts the gun down. My neighbor just died to the police the same way went to raise a bb gun to his head arguing with the police and they lit him up as he raised it. It is sad but he brought it on himself ultimately or wanted to die.
Officer: Mam', is there anyone else inside the house right now that he could harm? Lady: No. Officer: Do you fear for your safety right now out here on the sidewalk five houses away? Lady: Ummmmm, sure. Officer: Ok. We're going in there and get your TV watching privileges back right now.
Exigent circumstances is the requirement where a warrant is not needed for the police to enter a citizens home. Here, the wife was safe and there was time to consider alternatives. Most citizens especially men will resist knowing police will enter the home aggressively. When Police are not acting under Constitutional guidelines, their authority is negated. Strict guidelines for entering without a warrant were meant to avoid unfortunate situations such as this. There were many options available to this officer and he took it upon himself to "extradite" the need to enter the home.
They had Exigent circumstances, He just committed assault with a deadly weapon, and the woman testified that he was in the house. He was going to be arrested, was his choice to get shot.
Sounded like some weak PC to enter the house. Why not call him out before escalating it. Is the standard "we have to shoot him to prevent him from hurting himself" now?
For police watching this to educate themselves; just get an arrest warrant and return at a later date when things calm down. Get the victim a hotel room or shelter until the arrest is made. Usually prevents a shooting that way.
I have done essentially the same thing...escort woman to a place of safety (relatives house, domestic violence shelter, etc.), have the domestic violence response team immediately contact the victim at that safe place. Then mail the suspect a summons for domestic violence. Give the situation time to cool down.
Sounds good and all. That is until the angry spouse hunts down their significant other and kills them. Possibly harming or killing others in the process.
@@BLUELEADER78 : The role of the domestic violence response team, consisting of a paralegal and Assistant D.A. is to evaluate each particular case, in real time. If he is deemed an immediate threat, SWAT will make the apprehension. The point is, all reasonable means for an immediate peaceful resolution must be explored. Police response to domestic violence is more nuanced than an execution squad. Thank God you are not a LEO!
Who would you have called then? You didn't seem to give your educated opinion or ida. Let's see an ARMED agitated man... Who should I call? Maybe the ACLU no no they probably won't come out after 5pm to assist. Oh I know how about Ben Crump, yeah he can organize the neighborhood and hopefully they can talk this guy down.
Why is everyone trying to justify it? They had firearms because there was a gun involved. He came down with a gun in hand after the police have made themselves clear
He obviously was not a responsible gun owner pointing it at the police and threatening his girlfriend with it. Pure stupidity on his part. If you own a gun or knife, I strongly discourage you from greeting the police with them.
@@ghostdragon5758 I would highly suggest if you were to get robbed, to comply and give them everything. Else you might end up dead or seriously injured. Remember criminals dont follow laws, law abiding citizens do(and look where that gets you). Eitherway youll prolly end up dead. We all die anyways, just now or later.
@@Glaceonics Wrong, you do not have to answer your door for any cop! You have the right to carry your gun inside your house, and the woman never said he aimed and threatened her with the gun... all she said was she felt threatened which is not the same.
@@ghostdragon5758 Suspect pointed his gun at two strangers wearing cop uniforms who somehow unlocked his two front doors to his house... he had every moral right to aim a gun at the two strangers trespassing his property. It's people like you who shouldn't have a gun because you think cops can do whatever the F they want because someone alleged they FELT threatened... suspect never aimed and threatened the woman, but you ignored this fact!
@@CaliSportsman365 I meant people with past crimes involved with guns I forgot what guy but he had went to jail for a gun crime. And people buy guns illegally.
You need the keys to see if a door is unlocked or not? That's BS I was you got to do is turn the doorknob to see if the door is locked or unlocked oh, you don't need the key to turn the door handle
This was handled pretty terribly by the officers. They know he has a gun in the house and domestic calls are the most dangerous they deal with. They honestly could have called him from her phone or even spent more time ringing the doorbell and knocking. They barely knocked once and started entering the dark house that they had no idea about the layout of.
HE also knew what he did to his woman was wrong and by that admission he knew police were coming. If you dont come to bed im going to shoot you. Only a sick person does something like that.
Are these people 5? Arguing about going to bed, turning lights off etc if your maturity level isn't past grade school level you've no business being in a relationship.
Officers seemed to be trigger happy. Everything wife said indicated he was normal dude, but he racked a slide at some point. Why not just call the dude on the phone before you go commando raid?
That's not the policy though. Gotta change the rules tbh. They also didn't identify themselves well enough, one single "police" at the during the only knocking. They could-should have waited for back-up, but they felt the need to enter the home. I can't agree with this shooting at all. Maybe if it were to have gone down after swat/negotiators got there, maybe.
Normally, a Police department will set up a perimeter outside and get a negotiator to the scene and talk the subject out of the house. These cops dropped the ball by rushing into this situation, putting themselves and others in danger.
I'm sure if they wd have asked his wife to lead in the keyed entry she wd have for sure talked hubby down 😂...they were just watching TV together ten minutes prior 😂 this can't be the entire story, can someone ask my side before two cops are pointing guns at me at my front door while I'm inside and there based on a one sided story, she said she just ran out the front door running for her life but she grabbed her keys 😂 again I have questions. Sad!
These cops were not there to negotiate, that's what social workers do, they were there to eliminate the threat, either by arresting him or shooting him, his choice. They were cool and collected and operated with efficiency.
As they made entry into the house and the last shot or two was fired, did I hear the officer w/ the rifle say "shot the dog" ? Sounded like it and given the downward angle of his rifle, it kinda looked like it too.
During my abusive marriage my wife would pummel me. One point I called 911, police show up to me bloody and bruised. Not a scratch on her. Arrested me because she said I threatened her with a gun we didn’t own.
why yall freaking out if you read the description the dude survived. if he didn't want to get shot he would not have had the gun pointed at police. *End of story.*
Rory-Not Gail: Did we miss something very important or...did they simply obtain the complaint, information and the house key from the woman and immediately enter the house without having dispatch - or better yet THEM - attempting to contact the man via a phone call? Seems like a big rush to a shooting to me. . . and I'm a retired LEO.
@@dinky101 You never plea guilty at the first go around, no matter how guilty you are of a crime at this level. Many judges wont allow it in severe cases anyhow at the first pleading anyhow.
It won't be his wake up call. This will just be one of many cases domestic assaults ,armed robberies, carjacking and so on that he will be part of. So unfortunate but so true
These cops should have found out much more information on the subject. Didn't ask if he was violent, suicidal, criminal past with a weapon...these two created a situation that wasn't there, this could have potentially been resolved thru negotiation...maybe. Guess we'll never know.
Although it is dangerous for someone to threaten you with a gun the only question I have is that if the 2nd amendment says you have the right to keep and bare arms and it shall not be infringed upon , no where does it say it’s a requirement under the amendment to have a license to carry a gun so why is it that some cops still want to arrest people that have a gun if they haven’t caused harm to anyone ?
@@truthwarrior2149 We don't know what he was thinking. If someone opened your door, and you didn't know who they were, would you approach unarmed? If he knew it was the police, that's different but he may have thought it was someone else. Yelling "Police" doesn't mean it's the police. If I was breaking into a home with the intent to do harm, that's what I'd yell with the hope they would drop their gun.
I think they had Exigent circumstances (gives police authority to enter without a warrant). She gave them keys, though they just asked for keys, never asked her permission, they told her "We are going to take him into custody, we need your keys to see if it's locked".
I love how you left out the part wehre she said she feared for her own safety. But hey, the cops that were called should jsut get shot, and the ones that arrive on scene after that. Lets just let him shoot every single cop till he is ready to stop. You are genius.
Because cops are supposed to get shot? Who cares about cops right? You probably think cops should get shot first before returning fire. If you point a gun at a cop expect to get shot. If someone did that to you, you would just get shot? Or would you protect yourself? Stop being ignorant
Cops are no longer there to help they are there to kill you. How many instances have occurred where police are called for help with a family member and he or she end up dead? No one was in immediate danger, so what was the hurry in going in there armed with assault rifles to try and murder him??
Argument about the lights escalates to an armed confrontation? Sounds like there were some issues prior to this one.
Yeah, obviously. 🤦♂️
For sure
Alcohol most likely, everytime me and my ex would drink i would empty all the guns and hide the bullets. Arguments are almost guaranteed in post family get togethers with alcohol. Women fear for their safety only when they are mad it seems lol
Arguing can become deadly no need for history.
Just a Tad bit
"Briefly, what happened tonight? "
"Well, you see we first met 17 years ago in grade school..."
And kids, that's how I nearly got your father killed and now living of his disability cheque
🤣
Haha
😂🤣
Lol...oh Jebus! Too funny!
I honestly love how compliant and calm the poor lady was with the police, she just wanted to make sure everything would be okay. It sucks that he had to aim the gun at the police though.
He didn't 'have to' do anything. He CHOSE to do that, and paid the price. There are consequences for every action we decide to undertake. Some big, some small, some good, some bad, but they ALL stem from the choices we make in the first place. He made a poor decision and faced consequences for it.
Ki
@@dylanwhitmer5325 Never saw this because I dropped this account entirely, I never meant "he had to" as if it was a fight or flight situation, I meant more as a past term. I don't have the best grammar.
"9 Glock Millimeter" Well, it's definitely not the worst firearm description we've heard out there.
Id love you to see you speek clear and conscinse sentencing after just having to shoot someone.
Get over yourself
Prosthetic manhood is the technical term.
True, still props for remaining calm and knowing so much. Most people won’t even admit the perp’s got a gun on them.
@Harlod Shekelbond Imagine if she went to bed after her husband was talking nonses and was holding a gun, and on top of that chambered a round?!
YOU ARE CRAZY
You are now blaming this woman who refused to be told what to do? How about blaming the man who had the gun!
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That dog must be thinking, "it's a man shoot man world."
No, the dog was thinking about global warming
😂
Had to screen grab that one. 🤣
😂
No, he was thinking,"now who's gonna give me waffles fries?"
Mistake number one why stand directly in front of the door your knocking on ? Cop got blasted that way in Alabama about 5 years ago … ambush .. best knock from the side and get low
You can shoot him through the wall hello an AR bullet will go through three bodies
@@Michael_Wade yea agreed
You would think it to come natural and overcome their reasoning for always stacking up. The more officer's I have spoken to aren't the gunfighters I thought they were. Hopefully they learn seriously....Well said brotha. 1997-2006 Marine infantryman Sgt. 100P.T. retired....Josh
@@joshuaforbus5853 yessir thank you for your service . Even though these guys are trained some are still just better at it , humans aren’t equal in any aspect in my oppinon . Lotta people serve but not all are warriors . These guys in my oppinon acted very dangerously and carelessly , seemed actualy like two rentacops . Once they hear “gun “ they shoulda called for back up , sat tight wirh the lady and got more info from her , in my oppinon both would be dead now if that guy was a killer or at least wanted to kill that night . Much love sir keep your boots close
fatal funnel.
"I dont want him to hurt himself"
"so you want us to do it for him?"
"what?"
"lol just kidding...unless 😳"
@@calvin3446 lol so you're just going to ignore the part where he was armed and threatened his wife with a gun? You don't think an armed coward who has to use a gun to have an argument with his wife might be a threat to cops?
I get it, how could a keyboard warrior like you even know what a lethal threat is, all of those TV shows that you watch didn't properly train you for a real life encounter with an armed man lol.
@@calvin3446 Oh...an Arm -Chair Warrior...how would YOU handle the situation...Cal..?...
Yes Karen
"and your dog too?"
"wait what?"
"nothing"
Omg 😆
When someone tells you there is a gun inside never stand in front of the door.
they were stacked, he only stood in front to open the door because of the metal door, still, he opened from the wrong side, never open doors from the hinge side
Your a coward tho, so fk your opinion
You expect them to enter through a wall?
Cops were never recognized for their Intelligence, which is why they all make the super intelligent decision to become cops in the first place.
@@jarrodperry2984 No, but it's NOT a good idea to open the door while standing dead center in the opening. Gun confirmed inside. Suspect panics when he hears the door opening and blasts through 1.5 inches of wood at close range. Cop opening the door eats a few. They are trained not to do that.
Lady : " i don't want to see him hurting himself!"
Officer : "don't worry, we`ll do it for him". 😁
Lmao that’s exactly what I said! 🤣
this lady used cops to murder her partner
@@networkedperson Protect and *serve* . They preformed a, service.
@@networkedperson well, he survived so she'll have to find another way I guess.
@@networkedperson he didn't die. but yeah lol.
Why is I that every time an officer says "Drop the weapon" or "Get your hands up now" the suspect just goes Bananas?
Because if there is no GUN cops, have it on there body came with them saying he has one so they can plant one on him later
As a former officer of nearly a decade, I can tell you thst even my small police department would have NEVER handled it this way. This was one of the most hastily executed plans (If you call it a plan). Its almost as if they were excited and wanted to hurry to get into a shooting. The statement they got from her was BARELY sufficent for the basic probable cause they had to arrest him. He asmed a leading question of "Did you fear for your safety?" And she responds, "Yes" and his brain went "DING DING DING! AHA! We have a magic word for our basic peobable cause statement".
The victim was specific that she feared he was going to kill himself.
A proper response for an armed barricaded man would have been to set a perimeter with more officers, hand out less than lethal weapons, get your negotiotor officer to call him on his cell or house phone, pre deploy medics and fire dept nearby and try to convince him to come out peacefully.
I think these officers are justified in the shooting but Jesus... just because we can doesnt me we SHOULD
Completely agree.
They are trained to kill
@@bobe3250 this is not true. I gave an objective opinion and with extensive personal policing experience. There is no room for radical thoughts like " theyre all trained to kill ". I have so much time to prove that we are (most of us) trained to de-escalate and prevent loss of life.
I thoought it escalated too quick too! Out of curiousity how should it have been handled from your experience?
@@bobe3250 Yes. They are. It used to be shoot to stop, but I heard some years back that the preferred method now is to unload several rounds into the suspect, starting with the hips and moving up into the torso.
The idea of going home at the end of their shift is drilled into them as their #1 goal. If some citizen gets wounded or killed, so be it. They have their qualifed immunity, department, union, and DA on their side. They know there's a slim chance of being found guilty of wrongdoing.
That being said, sometimes they have to shoot. But all in all, these people are simply dangerous and it is best to avoid them.
That will teach him to turn out the lights.
Did you fear for your safety? She says yes you just gave him a mission to kill him
LADY: "I DON'T WANT HIM TO GET HURT"
COP: HERE, HOLD MY DONUT
Jajajaj
HAHAHAHA!
Yeah he's in there alone nobody to hurt.. WHY ENTER?!?! Just escalating for no reason.. Risking his and your own lives.. Just call for backup and talk him out.
@@Adam-lt4fx I agree
@@Adam-lt4fx You will never see that in my country for sure. But this is the american way i guess ^^
"I don't want him to hurt himself."
"Don't worry ma'am, we'll take care of it for him."
hhahaha
"dont worry HE wont hurt him, but we will" haha
I couldn't help but laughing, this is unfortunately too true.
Evil humor, desperately evil for likes. Disturbing, almost got to puke
@@AFFI909 all u do is combat every comment on this and (probably) other channels. Grow up, and go read ur Bible quietly instead of bashing ur delicate fragile personality.
Plus your dog will also not going to hurt himself for a long time
The wife had to have known this wasnt going to end well. She was worried about him hurting himself because he had a gun so she called the cops and told them he had a gun and was acting crazy. There's no way she didn't know this was going to turn out bad.
Perp had a vote. He chose death.
Her decision kept her from possibly getting killed and no one lost a mom,sister,daughter to a weirdo
There's no way the suspect didn't know this was going to turn out bad either, so... at the end of the day people have to be accountable and responsible for their own actions. This is his own fault.
His wife did the right thing. He could've shot anyone coming through that door. His wife even said that she feared for her own safety, so he could've been intending to kill her.
"The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims."
~Colonel Roy Campbell, Metal Gear Solid 2
The government should’ve known not to give idiots weapons, especially military soldiers for killing millions around the world whom of which returned to the USA with ptsd and joined the police 😂
Sooooo.....
She called because she feared he would harm himself.. I heard that
They deemed it necessary to kill him before he killed himself.
CHECK
Never ask a woman to tell you “briefly”. I imagine that cop is not married. He should have just said “did he point the gun at you and did you tear for your safety? Yes or no?” And he still might have got the whole story.
Just pull a Joe Friday: "Just the facts ma'am."
Well he did ask her if she feared for her safety and she said yes
You Americans justifying the police shooting this guy just don't get it do you ! You think shooting a man over a argument because he wouldn't comply with commands while in his own home is ok, then you truly are a lost cause.
I know people here in my town that always answer questions the very very long way around.
His wife did the right thing. How do you know he was suicidal? Besides pointing his "9 Glock Millimeter" at the police. He could've shot anyone coming through that door. His wife even said that she feared for her own safety, so he could've been intending to kill her.
"The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims."
~Colonel Roy Campbell, Metal Gear Solid 2
How to get the cops to eliminate your mate by having your own house SWATed.
My heart goes out to the dog.
Did they hit the dog?
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@@andyr8812 The first two were for the guy. The third, after opening the door was for the dog.
@nobody. Yes. Read the news article. It said that they fired 2 shots at him. The video shows a third shot after the door is opened with the rifle pointing downwards. That third bullet was for the dog.
Yeah if u listen close after the third shot it sounded like he said "shot the dog"
The man should’ve been smart enough to leave the gun in the room and approach the officers without the gun…
Guess they don't have to worry about him harming himself.
It's not just about him harming himself, he is a danger to others and needs to be confronted, he chose to confront the cops with a gun, that's the way it is going to turn out.
He lives...
Don't worry. We will give two shots and he won't harm himself anymore.
I'm not comfortable with this shoot at all.
IMO> Got to wonder, with talk of a gun, at what point does the cop think it's safe to stand in the middle of the door to open it?
And you'd be right
When they're looking for an excuse to kill you they have to pretend to be in danger
@@RichBuddy your wife or GF that your threatening.
Did he think the cops were gonna say ok sir no problem we come back tomorow? Becose at this poin he was a danger to the whole communiity....
Debatable she could be lying too
looks like he defended his home against armed home invaders
He is in his home with a firearm and you shoot him in his home? Surely there is another way this could have gone down? You only took the word on one person who may have been lying. Has he got a mobile phone? Can we call him?
He had a gun in his hands after an argument and he knee the police were outside. Justified
Don't point guns at cops. Pretty simple.
@@SixDaysOTR maybe he wanted to get some sympathy by pretending to want to harm himself... or maybe she lied and tried to kill him, and he was defending against her entering and stabbing him....
point is the cops jumped to conclusions and just took her word for it
The police announced their presence. He knew they were there let alone there for HIM. I'm Pro 2A and don't think you should be blasted for holding a gun but when the police ANNOUNCE themselves and you come in view holding that piece it's a split second, them or you.
@@SirViving Maybe and no. She could have lied, I've been a victim of that, but the cops made their presence known, he heard them and still had the gun in his hand. Don't make excuses for this guy. If he had actually killed her, would you defend him still if he was shot by police. It seems common sense cease to exist. Fact is, if he didn't have a gun in his hand and used his brain, at best he would be alive sitting in a jail cell eating Ramen paid for by the very person who put him there. But again common sense was not on his side..
Why ..?? If the victim is outside why not take her to safety and return for the husband at a later date or issue a warrant..??? Instead of invading his home by opening the door and hunting him down..? I think it could have been avoided..but what do I know...
The last four words were all you wrote that made sense.
Because they had all the probable cause they needed and didn't need a warrant
because when you become a danger to others you need to be confronted and your threat needs to be eliminated.
She confirmed she wasn't threatened, til the cop lead her into saying she "felt" threatened, therefore giving them the (apparent?) right to storm and shoot
These situations are rarely going to end any other way. Someone armed behaving this way has violent intent against others or themselves. The police are there to end the threat. Being this type of situation the armed individual is rarely going to comply and drop the gun it's just inevitable they will get shot. If you have an issue with this don't call cops. If they shoot someone because of your inaction that's kind of partially on you. Suicidal/homicidal people when confronted are just going to likely get shot refusing to disarm.
Your speaking too much sense! It’s almost like you’re saying people are dealt consequences based upon their own actions
How do you know he was suicidal? Besides pointing his "9 Glock Millimeter" at the police. His wife even said that she feared for her own safety, so he could've been intending to kill her.
"The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims."
~Colonel Roy Campbell, Metal Gear Solid 2
@@2vcrew782 His wife did the right thing. He could've shot anyone coming through that door. "dealt consequences based upon their own actions"
So if someone is crazy and armed just don't call the police, he will deal with himself and definitely not harm anybody. Your iq must be higher than 110 brother😄. I hope you get in this situation, then i wanna hear your thoughts. If they won't reason, can't stand there and get shot
The greater lesson is that if you feel moody towards your spouse, don't touch the firearm and act tough or she might call the guards and put you in the ground.
Why are people saying there were three shots, one for the dog?
I hear only two shots. Can't find any information as to whether it was shot too, or if it ran away.
Notice that when she said the boyfriend didn't threaten her with the gun, the officer asked if she "felt" threatened, which seemed enough in his mind to make an arrest. My question is.....we know it's against the law to threaten someone, but is it also against the law if a person "feels" threatened by you but you haven't made a threat ?
Good point, but you see women in this generation will always win in these kind of situations.
His wife did the right thing. How do you know he was suicidal? Besides pointing his "9 Glock Millimeter" at the police. He could've shot anyone coming through that door. His wife even said that she feared for her own safety, so he could've been intending to kill her.
"The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims."
~Colonel Roy Campbell, Metal Gear Solid 2
Why would you take out a fire arm when arguing with a spouse then ?
NO
According to the law, yes. In some states, it is even possible to be charged with assault even if you have not made physical contact with the victim.
Did the point officer not have a body cam (or did I miss something)? I'm curious as to whether or not he simply had the gun in his hand, or did he raise it, or point it at the officer? So many officers are now trigger happy with little to no accountability. I'd like to see what happened, not what's written in a report. I seriously question the justification of this shooting.
I would love to know where you get your info on so many officers being trigger happy today!!! Cops are too scared today to even arrest someone because they can be sued for literally doing their job...
when it comes to pull a gun on someone ...not meant to be or meant to be ....it's no difference like someone is pointing a gun on you !!
"He's going to hurt himself"... Officer: "It's okay we'll do it for him"
I thought with that long gun, and the guy wheezing, he was a goner...
Cops heard nothing outside of he's armed. Every question after was to determine if he was hostile.
Rip to the dog, didn’t deserve to be put in that situation. Not the cops fault they don’t know if the dog is dangerous or not
Where y'all getting that info from? its said that only 2 shots got fired, i can only hear 2shots. and it only mentions 1 Police Officer that Shot..
@@sadwaifu i think in the Article it confirmed that 2 shots were fired for the guy that was armed n 1 for the dog
It Don't matter what he was doing with the gun, having it is fair game, when the call is for "Hands" you know the drill. If you drop gun & show empty raised hands, you don't get shot.
If you drop your hands & raise a gun. You Get Shot. Simple.
As a Marine combat veteran, I don’t understand the choice in weapons on this one. The second officer had an M-16 variant. When I was in, we used the M-16A2. I’m not familiar with the new little guys besides the collapsible stock and shorter barrel. That being said. If I were the officer, I would have chosen a DP-12. First two rounds could have been beanbag rounds. 2nd two could be bird shot, followed by 12 gauge. There are two points did this. The DP - 12 is a shotgun. It makes a better impression, you get a tasty differences in your rounds, it’s meant for close encounter House to house fights and you can use non-lethal rounds.
This is not a situation that calls for non lethal
Is every patrol car supposed to outfitted with an armory?
The M4, short barrel rifle, was adopted due to its ease of use in close quarters yet still maintaining effectiveness at medium to long range.
He had a hard on to use that rifle...This is one i disagree with. If someone is banging on the door I would be armed too. They knew how this was going to play out and LOVED IT!
@@matthoward8546 The officer orgasmed as he shot. SMH
The officers made a lot of bad calls, and a half-decent lawyer will get this thrown out. First, the officers are taking someone claiming to be wife at their word. Although it doesn't show it prior to the recording, it's possible they verified her license as being a resident of the home. However, that alone doesn't necessarily mean much. There could have been an argument prior, and the wife called police as retribution. The officers only verbally identified themselves police once before opening the door with the keys, at night. When the dog started barking, they didn't identify themselves as police, and nor did they identify themselves when Dekeyser appeared. With the officer's lights on, all the officers said was, "HANDS! HANDS! HANDS!". There is so much reasonable doubt that Dekeyser could have thought it was a home invasion.
You are very right, this is a great video to show how not to handle domestic disputes. The cop assume the woman was the victim and decided he was going to shoot the guy. This could have been handled far better, cops need better training, don't they have negotiators in their ranks?
You're basing most of your useless points on a video that has been cut for content on the internet. They wouldve confirmed the woman lived there easily as she clearly had already explained herself. Officers will not shoot even if a gun is in your hand, unless it's aimed (they clearly have disapline or he'd be dead). The officers announced themsevles, he knew fine well it was the police.
The dude had a meltdown, plain and simple.
@@TyrooShino you're going off the assumption that he had a meltdown. If he did, then there needs to be more evidence of that. I see no such evidence based on what has been provided in the video, and the conversation that took place between the officers and the woman claiming to be the wife.
The only evidence provided was a single individual making the claim. Someone claiming to be the spouse, even if true as I previously stated, doesn't eliminate potential nefarious motivations for calling the police under false pretenses. Which is all too common in domestic disputes taught in most police academies and from the basic experience of any patrol officer.
Warrants are usually not conducted at night unless it's under unique circumstances, for the very same reasons we see here. Because its dangerous due to confusion and inability of the occupants to discern if the police really are police, or home invaders masquerading as police. It's not unheard of that home invaders will falsely claim to be police. Additionally, officers should have announced themselves more clearly and multiple times if they were to have entered under, but ideally try to make contact by calling Dekeyser.
Unless there was exigent circumstances of someone being held hostage with Dekeyser claiming he'll execute them after a certain time, then I see no reasonable legal need to enter without a warrant. Stating "Police" once, waiting a while, not saying it when the dogs bark, then entering with flashlights pointing at the Dekeyser''s face without further saying police when flashlights should create enough reasonable doubt to acquit in front of a jury or dismissed by a judge if Dekeyser has a half-decent attorney.
Cop: Did that make you fear for your safety
Woman:Yes
Cop (Thinking): Cool permission to kill
"did you fear for your safety?".
"Yes"
"Say less...we got you"
shes defiantly got something going on, shes not telling the whole story and leaving out little details on purpose
The officers were prepared for the unknown.
Wants her privacy in the other room to message her side piece
Or wants to check her DM’s in privacy
He knows something is up and gets upset, she spins the story a bit, now she’s in the clear, he’s out of her life. Simple
You can't bring her back and ask her to write a novel, the severity of the crime is the first thing you need to take care of and then once everything is done. That's when you fully investigate.
@@Spontaneous72 bruh she said she isn’t tired. Why be in a relationship if you can’t trust one another.
@@sirkadabra bruh, you better know the game if you’re looking to keep from smoking cigarettes alone waiting on her when she’s “out with friends”
After that woman was unable to GET TO THE FRIGGING POINT, I’m guessing that cop was sympathizing with the husband, a little bit. I know I was.
I can’t say this was a justified shoot.
The officers jumped way too many preventative steps and escalated to deadly force.
Just because the man is allowed to carry, especially in his own home, does not give the police the go-ahead to shoot on sight.
@@justinallen2619
Please provide the point in the video where the home owner shot at the police.
@@justinallen2619 Liar liar, pants on fire!
WE weren't waiting for you to call it a justified or unjustified shooting. WE must assume that you have no experience in the law, tactical requirements and applicable state statutes. Therefore....take the day off and head back to Facebook.
@Phumgwate Nagala Yeah sure. Tell us specifically where this is so that we can compare statistics. Doubtful that a country with rudimentary plumbing would be so advanced in law enforcement.
@@RLTtizME
Who’s “WE”?
Unless you have a dual personality complex, I suggest refrain from speaking for other people other than yourself. Second, you don’t know me or my “qualifications”, so please, try to tell me, who actually knows my career, what I know or don’t know.
Every bit of your response screams woeful ignorance. Especially your personal attack rather to actually provide a decent point to the conversation.
5 seconds from contact to shots fired.
My question is, who's house is it? If it's his house and he's licensed do they have a warrant? If not then is this even a legal entry?
The wife gave the police consent and also there was a crime because she said she feared for her safety. Those are two reasons they could go in.
@@doiron12 her fearing for her safety isn't a crime. filing false statements is a crime. women are always afraid for their safety. so really nothing even happened.
@@anumisha2302 so you’re assuming that the woman lied about this incident? From what I can tel on video shows the suspect holding a gun in his hand. That’s the same thing the female said. In addition, police would be accountable if they didn’t do anything. Imagine if you heard her story and you just told her to go back inside the house after she said she was in fear along with the suspect having a firearm. Then somehow she gets killed by that man after you left.. what are you doing to do now? People like you would’ve been saying something along the lines of “why didn’t the police go in there to arrest him?! She said he threatened her with a gun etc etc..” that’s that’s wrong with you people.
His wife called the police 🚔and gave them permission to go in. No warrant needed.
@Truth Teller Even if the woman gave permission, that doesn't mean the man had to agree with that permission and he does not have to open the door to any cops who have no search warrant nor probable cause... FEELING threatened is NOT probable cause.
Cop: "Show me your hands!"
Dog: Woof!
Cop: "Show me your paws!"
"What did happen? Briefly!" - "So god created earth and the sun and the universe..."
God is a mythological creature, and so is Santa Clause.
@@ghostdragon5758 Take your pills
@@SirChristian100 The red one or the blue one?
This is cannot be allowed to be repeated. It was a fundamental violation of his constitutional rights. That woman could be lying for all they know and he could have been asleep and unaware of anything happening until the dog barked.
oh it happens ALL THE TIME! I lost 5 months of my life and could have went to prison for 15 years because my cheating X said she was ( guess what, ) in FEAR OF HER LIFE ! see how the cops used those words and as soon as she agreed they went on the hunt! ) funny, they asked me nothing! just threw me in the back if the car and took me away! thank God her mother and father testified against her in court! charges dropped. life SUCKS. WOMEN SUCK HARDER. COPS LIKE THESE? SWALLOW.
Mf he had a gun walking towards them😂 i hope you’re just trolling
Sure, a possible armed and dangerous man should be not investigated, the problem would just solve itself, right? They shout police for a reason. Also the world is not perfect, deal with it.
Her bad.
She was worried he would hurt himself, so she called the cops? Makes sense to me.
Ill never find out what happened after she brought the fire wood in.
Play foolish games don't end well. She probably wanted that dude to get shot she was sick of him. She gave the key said he had gun and knew it wasn't going to end well!!!
why would he rack the gun if it was already chambered, the wife said he chambered a round, i also didnt hear a round be chambered.
Wife also called it a 9 glock millimeter. Witnesses are very unreliable. What they say could be true/false/misinterpreted/exagerated.
That went so wrong! How you just gonna go in without even trying to speak with him?!!
Err....they did
He knocked like once time
And he shot him through the door!!!
I agree - have just commented similar myself. (In reply to Randi)
I’d be afraid the cops were going to shoot my dog
It sounded like they did shoot the dog. They had to rush in and render first aid. There was a shot right after they shot him. I think that was the dog.
@@rael5469 dammit
The dog was a threat. Shooting the dog was one of the better decisions they made on that day. ❤️
@@Why-I-Oughta No.
“Poorly handled”
Yeah that’s okay coming from people who couldn’t talk themselves away from a pizza, much less talk to an individual bearing a firearm.
from the liberal peanut gallery, yea.. lol
The dude lived. I couldn’t see how it could’ve gone better! You hold a weapon towards a cop you’re lucky if you walk away alive. So I’d say this one is a win!
What crime did he commit?
@@3DFLYLOW doesn't matter because no crime carries a punishment of summary execution. But it doesn't matter whether you've committed a crime, if you do what this guy did you're very likely to get shot
@@LJR_LIMITED It was poorly handled by the police. They knocked and ID'd themselves once and within 5 secs they decided to entry. Poor police training.
So I'm confused on this one. It was a domestic dispute call, but he didn't actually threaten anyone. Technically, this man was just carrying a gun in his own home and the cops came in and shot him.
Shouldn't this have been a negotiation thing first instead of just breaching and shooting?
Yeah technically it has a couple of issues but her giving them permission to enter and all that is a problem the second she said she feared for her life they were allowed to enter without a warrant.
@@dwhit6529 yeah, but they know that he is possibly suicidal. in this case they would have had to proceed quite differently
100% agree - she said she wasn't threatened, but then the cop lead her into saying she FELT threatened, thus giving them -their excuse- probable cause :-\
@@sakesan6828 Yeah to be fair once the police show up it ends like this no matter what unless he puts the gun down. My neighbor just died to the police the same way went to raise a bb gun to his head arguing with the police and they lit him up as he raised it. It is sad but he brought it on himself ultimately or wanted to die.
Officer: Mam', is there anyone else inside the house right now that he could harm?
Lady: No.
Officer: Do you fear for your safety right now out here on the sidewalk five houses away?
Lady: Ummmmm, sure.
Officer: Ok. We're going in there and get your TV watching privileges back right now.
Exigent circumstances is the requirement where a warrant is not needed for the police to enter a citizens home. Here, the wife was safe and there was time to consider alternatives. Most citizens especially men will resist knowing police will enter the home aggressively. When Police are not acting under Constitutional guidelines, their authority is negated. Strict guidelines for entering without a warrant were meant to avoid unfortunate situations such as this. There were many options available to this officer and he took it upon himself to "extradite" the need to enter the home.
They had Exigent circumstances, He just committed assault with a deadly weapon, and the woman testified that he was in the house. He was going to be arrested, was his choice to get shot.
Sounded like some weak PC to enter the house. Why not call him out before escalating it. Is the standard "we have to shoot him to prevent him from hurting himself" now?
The PC is the wife's statement. It's solid.
I guess the "Family" sign on the wall above the TV is just for looks.
For police watching this to educate themselves; just get an arrest warrant and return at a later date when things calm down. Get the victim a hotel room or shelter until the arrest is made. Usually prevents a shooting that way.
That is completely against department policy 🤣 you can’t tell professionals to educate themselves when you arnt educated in the matter yourself
I have done essentially the same thing...escort woman to a place of safety (relatives house, domestic violence shelter, etc.), have the domestic violence response team immediately contact the victim at that safe place. Then mail the suspect a summons for domestic violence. Give the situation time to cool down.
Sounds good and all. That is until the angry spouse hunts down their significant other and kills them. Possibly harming or killing others in the process.
@@BLUELEADER78 : The role of the domestic violence response team, consisting of a paralegal and Assistant D.A. is to evaluate each particular case, in real time.
If he is deemed an immediate threat, SWAT will make the apprehension. The point is, all reasonable means for an immediate peaceful resolution must be explored. Police response to domestic violence is more nuanced than an execution squad. Thank God you are not a LEO!
Ok and we will call you to pay for rooms every time someone wants the cops to come a settle their mess.
She called in a hit as far as I'm concerned. If your in a foolish relationship just leave already.
I am scared he may hurt himself !! Calls guys with assault riffles to make sure no harm comes to him ! 🤷♀
Who would you have called then? You didn't seem to give your educated opinion or ida. Let's see an ARMED agitated man... Who should I call? Maybe the ACLU no no they probably won't come out after 5pm to assist. Oh I know how about Ben Crump, yeah he can organize the neighborhood and hopefully they can talk this guy down.
@Ed Jones Today is a good day to get your 5 booster injection Ed !!!! 💉
@Ed Jones LMAO
Why is everyone trying to justify it? They had firearms because there was a gun involved. He came down with a gun in hand after the police have made themselves clear
Dang, they shot the dude for having a gun in his own house .
He obviously was not a responsible gun owner pointing it at the police and threatening his girlfriend with it. Pure stupidity on his part. If you own a gun or knife, I strongly discourage you from greeting the police with them.
@@ghostdragon5758 I would highly suggest if you were to get robbed, to comply and give them everything. Else you might end up dead or seriously injured. Remember criminals dont follow laws, law abiding citizens do(and look where that gets you). Eitherway youll prolly end up dead. We all die anyways, just now or later.
The police announced themselves quite clearly and loudly. Answer the door with a gun and don't comply IMMEDIATELY, expect a round or two.
@@Glaceonics Wrong, you do not have to answer your door for any cop! You have the right to carry your gun inside your house, and the woman never said he aimed and threatened her with the gun... all she said was she felt threatened which is not the same.
@@ghostdragon5758 Suspect pointed his gun at two strangers wearing cop uniforms who somehow unlocked his two front doors to his house... he had every moral right to aim a gun at the two strangers trespassing his property. It's people like you who shouldn't have a gun because you think cops can do whatever the F they want because someone alleged they FELT threatened... suspect never aimed and threatened the woman, but you ignored this fact!
why do you guys cut the video so short all the time
I’ve been watching these videos and this just shows how literally anyone can get a gun.
@@CaliSportsman365 I meant people with past crimes involved with guns I forgot what guy but he had went to jail for a gun crime. And people buy guns illegally.
You need the keys to see if a door is unlocked or not? That's BS I was you got to do is turn the doorknob to see if the door is locked or unlocked oh, you don't need the key to turn the door handle
This was handled pretty terribly by the officers. They know he has a gun in the house and domestic calls are the most dangerous they deal with. They honestly could have called him from her phone or even spent more time ringing the doorbell and knocking. They barely knocked once and started entering the dark house that they had no idea about the layout of.
HE also knew what he did to his woman was wrong and by that admission he knew police were coming. If you dont come to bed im going to shoot you. Only a sick person does something like that.
It was handled professionally.
When someone wants to die it is almost impossible to reason with them.
@@mr.joshua204 but procedurally it was not. It did not have to end like that. When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
ill just note here that the 2 officers shouted "hands" numerous times and then one shouted
let me see your hands before anyone was shot at
Are these people 5? Arguing about going to bed, turning lights off etc if your maturity level isn't past grade school level you've no business being in a relationship.
seriously
Official statement:
"We could not allow Mr. Dekeyser to harm himself...that's for the police to do!
His girl didn’t do him any favors he’s has a gun. Here’s my keys. Did you feel you life was threatened. Yes. That’s all that cop needed to here.
Officers seemed to be trigger happy. Everything wife said indicated he was normal dude, but he racked a slide at some point. Why not just call the dude on the phone before you go commando raid?
That's not the policy though. Gotta change the rules tbh.
They also didn't identify themselves well enough, one single "police" at the during the only knocking.
They could-should have waited for back-up, but they felt the need to enter the home. I can't agree with this shooting at all.
Maybe if it were to have gone down after swat/negotiators got there, maybe.
Why would they enter that house without any backup on the scene ? There was no hurry, no one was in danger...
Normally, a Police department will set up a perimeter outside and get a negotiator to the scene and talk the subject out of the house.
These cops dropped the ball by rushing into this situation, putting themselves and others in danger.
I disagree. They handled it right. It wasn't a hostage situation.
@@TheLochs yeah, this one is called barricaded suspect
Agreed. When you have a subject locked in the house with a gun, call backup and be patient. Using the spare keys to open the door was risky.
I'm sure if they wd have asked his wife to lead in the keyed entry she wd have for sure talked hubby down 😂...they were just watching TV together ten minutes prior 😂 this can't be the entire story, can someone ask my side before two cops are pointing guns at me at my front door while I'm inside and there based on a one sided story, she said she just ran out the front door running for her life but she grabbed her keys 😂 again I have questions. Sad!
These cops were not there to negotiate, that's what social workers do, they were there to eliminate the threat, either by arresting him or shooting him, his choice. They were cool and collected and operated with efficiency.
As they made entry into the house and the last shot or two was fired, did I hear the officer w/ the rifle say "shot the dog" ? Sounded like it and given the downward angle of his rifle, it kinda looked like it too.
Definitely shot the dog
Dude if you're reading these comments...get rid of that women...she tried to have you killed
Is the dog ok?
Cops should not have entered the house.
How to avoid an expensive and lengthy divorce.
During my abusive marriage my wife would pummel me. One point I called 911, police show up to me bloody and bruised. Not a scratch on her. Arrested me because she said I threatened her with a gun we didn’t own.
I’m so sorry. I hope you left her and are doing better
You animal !
Wait what?
why yall freaking out if you read the description the dude survived. if he didn't want to get shot he would not have had the gun pointed at police. *End of story.*
Rory-Not Gail: Did we miss something very important or...did they simply obtain the complaint, information and the house key from the woman and immediately enter the house without having dispatch - or better yet THEM - attempting to contact the man via a phone call? Seems like a big rush to a shooting to me. . . and I'm a retired LEO.
They are not hired for their intelligence
Another Monday morning quarterback heard from. 😒
Still no pic of the perp ?
Very very sad. Good to know he didn't die. Let's hope this is a wake up call that puts him on a better path..
Go pray to a George Floyd statue, spineless worm.
Since he pleaded not guilty and clearly he is guilty I’d say the path doesn’t look so good.
@@dinky101 You never plea guilty at the first go around, no matter how guilty you are of a crime at this level. Many judges wont allow it in severe cases anyhow at the first pleading anyhow.
It won't be his wake up call. This will just be one of many cases domestic assaults ,armed robberies, carjacking and so on that he will be part of. So unfortunate but so true
How is she in fear if she was able to leave
"Don't worry about him hurting himself, we will take care of that."
I don't see the dog in any frame, and only two shots are heard. Where do you get this concept of dog being shot in this footage?
It wasn't hard to predict the outcome of this event when the police get involved!
Well, he was ?feeling suicidal? so the cops obliged him. This is common stuff.
These cops should have found out much more information on the subject. Didn't ask if he was violent, suicidal, criminal past with a weapon...these two created a situation that wasn't there, this could have potentially been resolved thru negotiation...maybe. Guess we'll never know.
Has anyone ever heard of a cell phone and to call first ?
To walk upon cops with a gun in your hand is a terrible decision.
To walk upon glass with a knife in your @$$ is a worse one.
Wife:he gonna hurt himself
Officer:nah we gonna hurt him first
🤣🤣🤣
Although it is dangerous for someone to threaten you with a gun the only question I have is that if the 2nd amendment says you have the right to keep and bare arms and it shall not be infringed upon , no where does it say it’s a requirement under the amendment to have a license to carry a gun so why is it that some cops still want to arrest people that have a gun if they haven’t caused harm to anyone ?
Because he brandished a firearm in a rude and threatening manner which is against the law in every state.
@@truthwarrior2149 We don't know what he was thinking. If someone opened your door, and you didn't know who they were, would you approach unarmed? If he knew it was the police, that's different but he may have thought it was someone else. Yelling "Police" doesn't mean it's the police. If I was breaking into a home with the intent to do harm, that's what I'd yell with the hope they would drop their gun.
And that’s the problem with your gun laws. It’s a big old mess you gun maniacs created. Yep. Good job 👍
@@pumpthebrakes Where are you from exactly?
Ok, it's "bear arms" and the 10th ammendment allows states to license and regulate. The more you know...
Don't the police need a warrant to enter a private house? This whole incident looks like a needless confrontation.
I think they had Exigent circumstances (gives police authority to enter without a warrant). She gave them keys, though they just asked for keys, never asked her permission, they told her "We are going to take him into custody, we need your keys to see if it's locked".
Caller: "I'm afraid he's going to hurt himself"
Police: "Don't worry, we'll hurt him first"
I love how you left out the part wehre she said she feared for her own safety. But hey, the cops that were called should jsut get shot, and the ones that arrive on scene after that.
Lets just let him shoot every single cop till he is ready to stop. You are genius.
LOL
Sounds about right
Because cops are supposed to get shot? Who cares about cops right? You probably think cops should get shot first before returning fire. If you point a gun at a cop expect to get shot. If someone did that to you, you would just get shot? Or would you protect yourself? Stop being ignorant
Cops are no longer there to help they are there to kill you. How many instances have occurred where police are called for help with a family member and he or she end up dead? No one was in immediate danger, so what was the hurry in going in there armed with assault rifles to try and murder him??
0:43 "Just in the house... we'll get the long story later." ( In hopes for a brief story )
::Woman continues second by second detailed argument::