Deconstructing Helter Skelter (Isolated Tracks) (Play It Loud)

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  • @HJsCorn909
    @HJsCorn909  2 года назад +25

    The Beatles 1968 (VOLUME WARMING ON ALL TRACKS)
    Drums and Brass Bleed 0:04-4:32
    Bass 4:36-9:02
    Guitars, Snare Overdub, Trumpet, Sax, Piano and Buried Chatter 9:07-13:38
    Vocals 13:44-17:02

  • @beatlesfan2884
    @beatlesfan2884 2 года назад +53

    Ringo didn’t use his Rooftop Kit. Glass Onion was the first time that he used the Rooftop Kit. He still used his 1964 Ludwig drum set

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  2 года назад +1

      They were recorded in the same week

    • @beatlesfan2884
      @beatlesfan2884 2 года назад +10

      @@HJsCorn909 But it’s the Black Oyster kit that’s used on this song. Mal Evans said that Glass Onion was the first time Ringo used his Rooftop Kit

  • @oscarducrot3327
    @oscarducrot3327 11 месяцев назад +27

    at 12:00 I'm pretty sure these weird noises made by Lennon are some of the ones that appear on Revolution 9

  • @jacobl4597
    @jacobl4597 Год назад +17

    I believe they hit their mark with this one .

    • @wide_awake
      @wide_awake 8 месяцев назад +2

      Wish there was film of making the white album, like let it be

  • @keithmoon3190
    @keithmoon3190 Год назад +21

    What makes this even more crazier is that Mal Evans is going full on Penderecki on his trumpet by making strange eerie noises and whatever kinds of sounds comes out from it.

    • @Xavier_Creighton
      @Xavier_Creighton 5 месяцев назад

      I can't hear it, where can you hear it?

    • @Darylvb
      @Darylvb 2 месяца назад

      @@Xavier_CreightonCan hear during the drum track

  • @mr.whipple2953
    @mr.whipple2953 16 дней назад +1

    So neat to hear the isolated vocals!

  • @bagenskiii8376
    @bagenskiii8376 10 месяцев назад +40

    Love John's dirty bass playing on this song

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 8 месяцев назад +13

      It's actually Paul.

    • @bagenskiii8376
      @bagenskiii8376 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@marcusphelan57 John played bass for helter skelter

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 8 месяцев назад +14

      @@bagenskiii8376 No that's the point: he didn't, not on the final version. He played bass on the months earlier 20 minute slow version where he played the one E note, two to the bar for the whole recording. Listen to Helter Skelter Take 17 and you will find the answer. As Ringo said in Anthology: ‘Helter Skelter’ was a track we did in total madness and hysterics in the studio. Sometimes you just had to shake out the jams, and with that song - Paul’s bass line and my drums - Paul started screaming and shouting and made it up on the spot”.

    • @bagenskiii8376
      @bagenskiii8376 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@marcusphelan57 source?

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@bagenskiii8376 apart from Ringo, the evidence is: 1) John was the world’s most reluctant and worse bass player in the world ( see Get Back); 2) the assertion that the bass is sloppy and simple is ludicrous and made by people with obviously no musical ability or are tone deaf 3) the Take 17 outtake which, when analysed as much as someone like me and other losers ha who have spent countless hours studying it, reveals clearly that Paul is playing bass 4) following the development of the song from early versions to final product and hearing telltale clues that tell a story - fuck this sounds pretentious- about its composition. Sorry, I’m writing this on my little phone after a few glasses. I’m not a total contrarian like I’ve been accused of, I only talk about the stuff I know, and this is one of those.

  • @MooEinstein
    @MooEinstein 2 года назад +24

    13:24 John's Piano Comes In

  • @wide_awake
    @wide_awake 8 месяцев назад +16

    F*cking white album, man! 🔥

    • @Tom-hk6ub
      @Tom-hk6ub 6 месяцев назад +1

      Awesome.

  • @Derek_blaze2011
    @Derek_blaze2011 8 дней назад

    i fucking love this part. 1:36. it makes me giggle!

  • @elirosen1391
    @elirosen1391 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is it possible that Paul or John - whoever played the rhythm guitar - brought the Vox hybrids out of storage? The sound is so distorted, I don't think it could have been a Fender.

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  7 месяцев назад +7

      I don’t think so. It sounds very much like the Casino because of its hollow body and its tendency for distortion

    • @JZen_25
      @JZen_25 6 месяцев назад +1

      And hollow bodies tend to provide more feedback at higher volumes.

  • @superwoodyadventures9912
    @superwoodyadventures9912 День назад

    16:57 I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS!

  • @holzhausstehle4593
    @holzhausstehle4593 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wow 😊😮

  • @birchsongsltd.6831
    @birchsongsltd.6831 5 месяцев назад

    Love the little cough in the vox track. 😅

  • @thehatman69420
    @thehatman69420 4 месяца назад

    listening to the isolated tracks just make me love this song more (this is my favourite song btw)

  • @elirosen1391
    @elirosen1391 7 месяцев назад +1

    One thing that kind of baffles me about the overall recording is how Ringo's blisters screech was picked up. I know there were microphones all around, but were any of them close enough to him to pick up his voice?

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  7 месяцев назад +5

      Maybe one of the drum overhead mics or something picked it up

    • @elirosen1391
      @elirosen1391 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@HJsCorn909 That voice ripped through the mix so hard, you'd think you hear him breathing throughout.

    • @Tom-hk6ub
      @Tom-hk6ub 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@elirosen1391 It still cracks me up every time I hear it.

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 6 месяцев назад +5

      All he had to do was stand up and yell into an overhead mic

    • @elirosen1391
      @elirosen1391 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@marcusphelan57 i can see him doing that.

  • @stixz1
    @stixz1 5 месяцев назад +1

    What software did u use for this?

  • @Прямой-б2с
    @Прямой-б2с 3 месяца назад +2

    Басист играл на доске с веревкой?

  • @perfectpiano1871
    @perfectpiano1871 Год назад +4

    When didn't you put parts in this video?!

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  Год назад +4

      ?

    • @diego.s0
      @diego.s0 10 месяцев назад +5

      had a stroke reading this

    • @Bella-nt7ec
      @Bella-nt7ec 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@HJsCorn909 time marks

  • @bryangoofy29
    @bryangoofy29 Год назад +7

    Wheres John's saxophone part? I'm trying to find the exact time stamp but i can't

  • @krispykicks7766
    @krispykicks7766 6 месяцев назад +6

    It's paul playing bass :) watch You Can't Unhear This's video.

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  6 месяцев назад +2

      Paul would never lay down a sloppy bass. John would. It’s John

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 5 месяцев назад

      @@HJsCorn909 It's 100% Paul. Provide another example of John playing bass like this?

    • @theweirdone1242
      @theweirdone1242 5 месяцев назад

      @@marcusphelan57the credits for helter skelter, look it up.

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@theweirdone1242 the guesses that archivists made? No I’d rather believe Ringo, who was there, not some bloke fifty years later misinterpreting a Mal Evans diary entry (confirmed by his biographer, Ken Womack.) Also, I use my ears, and Take 17 presents irrefutable evidence that Paul, as Ringo stated, is playing bass. Not one person has identified John playing bass on any track (that we know he plays bass on) that is similar in style to this. People say it’s in his style but can’t provide evidence of his style. I know John’s style: it’s the plodding one note for 27 minutes that he plays on the first, slow version. One E note, that’s it. This is the take that Mal Evans credited John playing bass and this has carried over into people falsely attributing John on the album version recorded months later.

    • @nicholasmaxwell9899
      @nicholasmaxwell9899 5 месяцев назад

      @@marcusphelan57You convinced me. Anyways Paul would have probably overdubbed it even if John did play it. One thing I’ve been wondering. Someone said Paul used to secretly overdub some of Ringos drums. Do you know if there’s any truth to this? I’m assuming that is false because Ringo is a better drummer than Paul. But McCartney is a perfectionist after all..

  • @Vingul
    @Vingul 3 месяца назад

    Any chance of getting just the trumpets isolated? Hahah. I heard Lennon played trumpet as well as Mal Evans btw, no idea if that's true.

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  3 месяца назад +2

      I don’t think it would possible to isolate them on their own sorry. Also yes, Lennon and Mal are both playing saxophone and trumpet mouthpieces

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 3 месяца назад

      @@HJsCorn909 Cool. Very understandable, didn’t have high hopes for it! Thanks.

  • @stellapolanco6860
    @stellapolanco6860 6 месяцев назад +1

    Mal Evans clarified in Nov. 1968 that much of the bass work on the "White Album" was performed by John Lennon. Something that seemed surprising to him. Beginning in 1968 and with the introduction of the Fender Bass VI, Lennon had a more prominent role on bass, playing on: "Helter Skelter", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "Glass Onion", "Rocky Raccoon", "Piggies", "Back In The U.S.S.R.", etc.

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 6 месяцев назад +1

      Total nonsense, he said no such thing.

    • @stellapolanco6860
      @stellapolanco6860 6 месяцев назад

      @@marcusphelan57 , Abbey Road Studios Page: "Ken Scott, who took over as The Beatle’s Balance Engineer, redefined his mic choices into a setup from which he rarely deviated. A combination of The Neuman U67 and DIT would be used on bass, KM56 on drums and KM56 on snare. Piggies, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Glass Onions and Rocky Racoon also see The Beatles played a 6 string fender bass rather than the 4 string they would usually play". John Lennon was the only person who could perform said bass on those songs besides "Helter Skelter" and "Back In The U.S.S.R.", something that is also confirmed by Mal Evans and Harrison himself.

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@stellapolanco6860 "John Lennon was the only person who could perform said bass..." What, was it particularly difficult that only John could play it? I reckon Ringo could probably play it better if he tried. As Ringo said: “‘Helter Skelter was a track we did in total madness and hysterics in the studio. Sometimes you just had to shake out the jams, and with that song - Paul’s bass line and my drums - Paul started screaming and shouting and made it up on the spot”. (Anthology.) Ringo and George (Guitar Player Nov 87 and Playboy Sept 91) are to be believed over the dodgy memory of an engineer. Look, listen to the videos I linked and then get back to me, otherwise your wasting my time by spreading false information.

    • @kevinsebastian120
      @kevinsebastian120 Месяц назад +1

      False. If you watched any video that goes deep into this, you would know that it was Paul McCartney who played bass on this track because when Mal Evans said that he was referring to Take 17 of Helter Skelter which was done in July of 1968. And where tf did you learn that John played bass on While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Glass Onion, Piggies, Rocky Raccoon, Back In The U.S.S.R., etc.? It was all Paul. Where are you getting your information from?

    • @stellapolanco6860
      @stellapolanco6860 Месяц назад

      @@kevinsebastian120 , Abbey Road Studios Page: "Ken Scott, who took over as The Beatle’s Balance Engineer, redefined his mic choices into a setup from which he rarely deviated. A combination of The Neuman U67 and DIT would be used on bass, KM56 on drums and KM56 on snare. Piggies, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Glass Onions and Rocky Racoon also see The Beatles played a 6 string fender bass rather than the 4 string they would usually play". John Lennon was the only person who could perform said bass on those songs besides "Helter Skelter" and "Back In The U.S.S.R.", something that is also confirmed by Mal Evans and Harrison himself.

  • @Ukraineaissance2014
    @Ukraineaissance2014 10 месяцев назад +6

    Much as i love george martin, he really was terrible at recording drums. Compare this drum sound to what led zeppelin and black sabbath were getting a year later, or even hendrix experience and cream earlier on. Part of it is Ringo's awful cymbals though. It was much better on earlier tracks like tommorow never knows, later i think they all wanted a muted drum sound, no idea why.

  • @lisag18
    @lisag18 Год назад +6

    John's bass playing is dreadful. The notes are fine but hes either hitting the strings too hard with the pick that its causing the strings to hit the pickup causing that zing.
    Terrible

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  Год назад +17

      I always liked John's crummy bass on HS. It kinda fits the song imo

    • @m1gr41n3
      @m1gr41n3 Год назад +3

      It’s just how that bass sounds

    • @fortepiano4491
      @fortepiano4491 Год назад +4

      No, it's the Bass itself that has the sound. Listen to Gently Weeps and compare how Paul sounds on the same Bass.

    • @aydanneilson-bourke7378
      @aydanneilson-bourke7378 Год назад +3

      pauls playing his jazz bass. this is the six string bass

    • @commentatron
      @commentatron 11 месяцев назад +10

      Sorry, you have the wrong room, it's human artistic expression in here. Quantizing and auto-tune are down the hall.