For me it’s Circular or plunge saw set to the thickness of the board for the long cuts and a multi tool with a tape marking of the board thickness for the cross cuts. Once you’ve hit a pipe or a cable that isn’t marked or known you become a lot more wary of anything that cuts thicker than a board
Hi Shane Porter, a way I’ve checked a board thickness before is to get a piece of metal coat hanger or thick wire and bend a right angle at the end and then either find an edge to hook it under or drill a hole some where out of the way, hook the wire on the underside of the board and mark the top. Then measure the distance between hook and mark. If it’s chipboard then it’s normally 22mm BUT it can be 18mm so I start at 18 and add a mm at a time until it’s just breaking through.
Just set a circular saw to within a couple of mm of the boards depth , I usually get one that’s been up and use that as my template, I would never use a recip asking for trouble
Same here, Worx also do a mini circular saw, battery or cable, which is ideal for cutting tongue and grove boards. handy piece of kit for electricians and plumbers
I use the multitool (Dewalt with depth control) supported by an old level I kneel on and deafen everyone within 200 yards while not drowning or gassing them nor plunging them into darkness. Nice straight slim cut line and no services at risk.
There’s too many houses that have the pipes/cables too close to the floorboards. I’ve hit central heating pipes before when I was an apprentice taking up boards in a bedroom (literally touching the board) and certainly learned my lesson. I always set a circular saw and set it a couple of mm less than the board thickness and then gently tap it out with a blunt chisel and hammer afterwards. Safest way imo. I wouldn’t do it like this.
Excellent reason to do this yourself as it takes a long time to do it neatly. A tradesman will use hammer and bolster. Damage your boards, probably split the wood, brush the rubbish under the floor . Fix the issue under the floor and replace carpet before you see the destruction he made.
Use a multi tool first along tongue and groove then you can mark where the joist is with the multi tool blade. I put the tool upright and slide it along until I hit the joist and then mark the edge of the joist on both sides, as nails are not always in centre. If you mess it up and the board doesn’t have support screw some batten into edge of joist to rest board back down on.
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Its great that he is taking the time to visit collages i take my hat off but students are taught safe isolation and no end of health and safty and then this, all i can say is i watched between the gsps in my fingers.
Wouldn’t call it a masterclass I always use a skill saw and you can lock the blade depth to avoid damaging any services you can’t see in the floor . What he is using is a bit reckless in my opinion
@@JohnSmith-ws7fq it is when it’s in the hands a very skilled and experienced spark ,as Dan clearly is . And you get your measurements right as he did.
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Personally I would get a stud/ metal detector first or some kind of cable detection tool first. Roughly work out the path of the services and then decide to cut through a board.
I think this is the first GSH video I'll be ignoring. Even as a newbie to the trade I would use a skill saw where I can set the depth without hitting pipes or cables. One slip with a recip' could become a home disaster far too easily.
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@@GSHElectrical As soon as they do they're going to be flooding someone's house when they hit a pipe that's been sat in a notched out joist so it sits snugly up against the bottom of the boards with this recipro method.
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I don’t think many people are going to do it like this. Takes to long and could easily cut pipes If I want a near perfect job I use a hand saw . If it’s not so important I use a circular saw. It’s even possible sometimes if the board has very straight grain and no knots to cut the tongue off with a Stanley knife. Sometimes especially in old Manor Houses it’s not uncommon to find the boards have wooden or metal pegs joining the boards together, now that’s a pain cutting them off.. Having said all that half the time other electricians smash the tongues of with a hammer and bolster and don’t give a Monkees and chuck their rubbish under the floor. One very important tip is as soon as you take the board up take the nails out straight away to save anyone standing on them by accident.
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Is there a device to check for services underneath the floorboards? I wouldn't fancy going at it without depth control on the saw without knowing it's clear
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@@GSHElectrical I could not agree more, social media is helping bridge the gap between site and collage. I’ve been trading for a few years and this month for the first time I’ve been approached by a college regarding work placements ect. I do not mean to take away from Dan he’s comfortable with tools witch takes years. Because of you and your colleagues I feel more confident in taking on trainees. It’s feels like a big responsibility witch I’m sure you are more than aware. I will reach out to my local colleges and offer to come in with my tool bag for a show and tell. 👍🏻
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A quick prayer to the good lord and keep your fingers crossed for that extra bit of good luck. If you manage to get through this without cutting through any pipes or wires. You're luckier then a cat with 9 lives. There's an old wives tale and that's if you kiss a badgers bum. You can do this 100's of times without cutting through any utilitie service pipes or cables. I wasn't willing to partake in this and butchered everything.
No gloves, no eye protection, no dust suppression, no ear defenders. You really need to go on an SMTSS course. Also best way to lift a floor board is with a sash knife hammer and wood saw. If there were M&E services under the floor boards you will damage them via your method. Very bad practice.
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How to Lift a Chipboard Floor Batten Joists and Re-Fit the Chipboard - Remove Chipboard Floor ruclips.net/video/dV_tCEgMoYs/видео.html
For me it’s Circular or plunge saw set to the thickness of the board for the long cuts and a multi tool with a tape marking of the board thickness for the cross cuts. Once you’ve hit a pipe or a cable that isn’t marked or known you become a lot more wary of anything that cuts thicker than a board
Is there an easy way of know/find out what depth to set it at?
@@shaneporter3933 drill a hole thick enough to get a small measuring tape head in and find out how thick It is
Hi Shane Porter, a way I’ve checked a board thickness before is to get a piece of metal coat hanger or thick wire and bend a right angle at the end and then either find an edge to hook it under or drill a hole some where out of the way, hook the wire on the underside of the board and mark the top. Then measure the distance between hook and mark. If it’s chipboard then it’s normally 22mm BUT it can be 18mm so I start at 18 and add a mm at a time until it’s just breaking through.
@@oldmanwith That is a brilliant idea! Thank you!
Just set a circular saw to within a couple of mm of the boards depth , I usually get one that’s been up and use that as my template, I would never use a recip asking for trouble
Same here, Worx also do a mini circular saw, battery or cable, which is ideal for cutting tongue and grove boards. handy piece of kit for electricians and plumbers
Where’s dans RUclips channel gone???
Loved following his house renovation!! 😢
I use the multitool (Dewalt with depth control) supported by an old level I kneel on and deafen everyone within 200 yards while not drowning or gassing them nor plunging them into darkness. Nice straight slim cut line and no services at risk.
There’s too many houses that have the pipes/cables too close to the floorboards. I’ve hit central heating pipes before when I was an apprentice taking up boards in a bedroom (literally touching the board) and certainly learned my lesson. I always set a circular saw and set it a couple of mm less than the board thickness and then gently tap it out with a blunt chisel and hammer afterwards. Safest way imo. I wouldn’t do it like this.
How do you know the thickness of a board if it hasn’t been up before tho?
Excellent reason to do this yourself as it takes a long time to do it neatly. A tradesman will use hammer and bolster. Damage your boards, probably split the wood, brush the rubbish under the floor . Fix the issue under the floor and replace carpet before you see the destruction he made.
Use a multi tool first along tongue and groove then you can mark where the joist is with the multi tool blade. I put the tool upright and slide it along until I hit the joist and then mark the edge of the joist on both sides, as nails are not always in centre. If you mess it up and the board doesn’t have support screw some batten into edge of joist to rest board back down on.
Fantastic job Dan .👍
Easy when you know how.
Fantastic video as always Gaz
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"... Pay your excessive bill..." No truer words wver spoken.
Thank you 🙏
this is the type of stuff you won't learn at college, that is unless you're in Gaz's class!
Thanks Dean message me over Christmas 🦾
@@GSHElectrical will do mate, have a good Christmas, hopefully see you in the new year
I remember using the curved edge floor boarding saw
Me 2 - knee saw as well 🤦🏻♂️
Looks like it's pretty unanimous then, don't take any notice of this video when lifting boards, that's 12:30 mins I'm never getting back.
A recip saw is NOT the tool for the job
You risk cutting cables and pipes
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Its great that he is taking the time to visit collages i take my hat off but students are taught safe isolation and no end of health and safty and then this, all i can say is i watched between the gsps in my fingers.
Your video's are Allways fantastic learnt so much from you , but using recip saw like that was terrible.
Wouldn’t call it a masterclass I always use a skill saw and you can lock the blade depth to avoid damaging any services you can’t see in the floor . What he is using is a bit reckless in my opinion
Thanks for your input
Have to agree. Recip saw is not the tool for the job.
@@JohnSmith-ws7fq it is when it’s in the hands a very skilled and experienced spark ,as Dan clearly is . And you get your measurements right as he did.
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Personally I would get a stud/ metal detector first or some kind of cable detection tool first. Roughly work out the path of the services and then decide to cut through a board.
What's the thinest cutting blade available for the multitool?
I think this is the first GSH video I'll be ignoring. Even as a newbie to the trade I would use a skill saw where I can set the depth without hitting pipes or cables. One slip with a recip' could become a home disaster far too easily.
Thanks for commenting 🦾
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@@GSHElectrical couldn't agree more. The GSH videos have been a great help to me gaining an understanding of what I need to learn in my own time.
Multi tool will go through heating pipes, from personal experience 😆
Remember there are many different ways to lift floorboard 👍🏻. My full time learners have never been on site.
@@GSHElectrical As soon as they do they're going to be flooding someone's house when they hit a pipe that's been sat in a notched out joist so it sits snugly up against the bottom of the boards with this recipro method.
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@@GSHElectrical It's not going to make the trades a better place because he's teaching them absolute bunk. Using a recipro saw is flat out wrong.
I don’t think many people are going to do it like this. Takes to long and could easily cut pipes If I want a near perfect job I use a hand saw . If it’s not so important I use a circular saw. It’s even possible sometimes if the board has very straight grain and no knots to cut the tongue off with a Stanley knife.
Sometimes especially in old Manor Houses it’s not uncommon to find the boards have wooden or metal pegs joining the boards together, now that’s a pain cutting them off..
Having said all that half the time other electricians smash the tongues of with a hammer and bolster and don’t give a Monkees and chuck their rubbish under the floor.
One very important tip is as soon as you take the board up take the nails out straight away to save anyone standing on them by accident.
My learners enjoy every minute Dan spent with them… he has given up 2 days to come free of charge to enrich the learning experience of my students for me and that’s amazing… I wish more electricians would visit colleges and pass on knowledge wouldn’t the trade be in a better place then 👍🏻 Andy
Hahahaha a rip saw. Yeh plumbers pipes incoming. old school hammer and shash
Pressure of the camera got to him me thinks. Either that or he is on day rate 😂
Dan is a wonderful man and wanted to return to Tresham College. Thanks commenting Gaz
Is there a device to check for services underneath the floorboards? I wouldn't fancy going at it without depth control on the saw without knowing it's clear
Thanks for your feedback 🦾
Thought that might be the case! Might save you from sawing through a pipe though 🤷♂️
That flat crowbar we call a "flat bar".
How come GSH never comment against any of the negative comments?
I am a very positive person 🦾
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Dear god........ Dan is a bit rusty he can just about reach the floor 😁
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Would have hand cut that. Blade is thinner than power tool. No noise or vibration. Easier to feel what’s below the blade.
One tool. Not two. Quick easy by hand and less risk of chopping through plumbing. Or other cables.
Don’t think I would recommend this. Way to aggressive.
Use a knife and muititool -very carefully.
This is a good way to cause a flood
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@@GSHElectrical I could not agree more, social media is helping bridge the gap between site and collage. I’ve been trading for a few years and this month for the first time I’ve been approached by a college regarding work placements ect.
I do not mean to take away from Dan he’s comfortable with tools witch takes years.
Because of you and your colleagues I feel more confident in taking on trainees. It’s feels like a big responsibility witch I’m sure you are more than aware.
I will reach out to my local colleges and offer to come in with my tool bag for a show and tell.
👍🏻
Does it say ‘FU’ under his right armpit?
Pass...
A good cordless circular saw does this job twice as quick
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Firstly , due dilligence are there any likely cables or pipes in the area your cutting!!
A quick prayer to the good lord and keep your fingers crossed for that extra bit of good luck. If you manage to get through this without cutting through any pipes or wires. You're luckier then a cat with 9 lives.
There's an old wives tale and that's if you kiss a badgers bum. You can do this 100's of times without cutting through any utilitie service pipes or cables. I wasn't willing to partake in this and butchered everything.
Even to me as a novice DIYer using a recip saw is clearly stupid and asking for trouble
Where’s the PPE? Tut tut! ;)
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I'm a arm chair commenter, but that seems a bit of a dated and uncontrolled way with no depth control?
No gloves, no eye protection, no dust suppression, no ear defenders. You really need to go on an SMTSS course. Also best way to lift a floor board is with a sash knife hammer and wood saw. If there were M&E services under the floor boards you will damage them via your method. Very bad practice.
This is not the way to lift a floor board in the real world!! With cables and pipes underneath the floor’s!!!
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