As predicted, I absolutely loved this one. Sorry it won't get the views of an Ultramarine, but these are the kinds of things that make your channel a favorite.
So great to see Soft Tone getting some love! I used this in vast quantities for my Soviets and it looks so great for anything yellow, beige, or even white. Big up Soft Tone, and great painting as always!
It's so good! In part the reason why I tend to use a couple of different paint manufacturers in these things is not just because it's the easiest method more often than not, but to try and demonstrate to folks that sometimes trying that new range might be worth it. :D
Bersaglieri wore fezzes and were some of the best Italian Infantry. (As well as Pith Helmets with feathered plumes on them) Considered Elite by the Germans and British.
Awesome! This is going to come in handy for my desert Italians. Strange the warlord instructions say to use German camo orange ochre and canvas for the tropical uniform. I think I like your colors better.
The orange ochre looks a lot more 'sandy' than it does orange in practice - I think most of their guides assume you're going to return to base coats before going straight to highlights after chucking the shade on there, but I'm not that patient! 😅
Just finished watching the video, and though I haven't painted any historical miniatures, the information about the different greens, was rather interesting. Also loved seeing how easy rank and file guys can be battle ready. Well done boss.
Actually I live in the city where Savoia was living in Italy. Very happy to see this minis painted! (Btw our skin is very pale, we are at North of the Italy, at the start of 1900 find a dark tone skilled soldier was a very rare event).
Fantastic painting tutorial and I can’t wait to try this one out. One question. In the army and blackshirts set, you get an option of tunics; one being the Camiciotto Sahariano smock and the other being the M37 or M40 tunic. Do you know what the difference is? I’m guessing the latter is for tropical uniforms? Thanks again.
Yes. REMARKABLE. Absolutely do it. The only one I know of is in the wrong uniform, but... badsquiddogames.com/shop#!/Accordian-Player/p/368672377/category=36713221
Luckily, their uniform's exactly the same. Except... well, a black shirt. 😅 The soft fez hats they would sometimes wear are also the same green grey cloth as everything else, so what you've got here will work just fine for black shirts.
I'm amazed by the dedication to find the right paints and to be historically accurate. :D It's kinda neat to consider all that! Thank you for discussing in such detail. Also cool to see Italians talk with their hands even as they walk into battle. :D
The models look very well sculpted & have so many options. Since there is an option for North Africa, I may get a box to add to my Africa Korps to proxy early DAK, which had the horrible green jackets & sun hats.
Those paint jobs look excellent, really really nice work. I know you've done quite a few videos like this one and painted whole forces but your practice and experimentation is paying dividends (thank you for putting in the work so we can have an easy time!) and I love the tone differences in the desert uniform. For a BA nerd point comp Italians can be done because of their absolutely mg festooned vehicles (but army composition is exceptionally limited and dull if played to win - damned shame).
The L6/40 is actually a really useful little tank. Nice and cheap, and kicks out a decent number of shots for something that small. You don't get anything big in the tank slot, sure, but against Russians you're not likely to need it. Save the points for a big artillery piece - you have great AT capability in the two dual-purpose AA guns available to Italians, which can also fire respectable HE against infantry.
@@fairman1000 Lol yeah the L6/40's one-man turret rule makes it kinda suck. I wish the selector had the AB40 (as they had in real life), as that thing wrecks on the table.
Not really; Caliban Green is much, much darker and more saturated. It's a totally different green. If you're stuck with Citadel paints for alternatives, Waaagh Flesh would be the closest approximate replacement.
At some point! Hopefully there's a company with an eye on new Italian paratroopers some time soon. The Warlord metal ones are looking a little tired these days!
You spell of "Grigio verde" is perfect, don't worry. Side question (sort of): from a model prospective mix this kit with french partisans is a viable option to kitbash italian partisans?
Which partisans kit? If you're referring to the Wargames Atlantic kit, these Warlord Games arms unfortunately don't really fit well with the WGA torsos. If you're looking for old, clapped-out weaponry for partisans to have by this era, mixing and matching with the WGA French or German WWI infantry might be worth looking into, or some of the earliest Warlord plastics might work - I know the Blitzkrieg German arms do fit rather well.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio my bad: I was thinking to the French Resistance Squad made by WarlordGames. I'll consider a Wargames Atlantic kit but the head system does not convince me. As always thank you for the answer (and the patience for my crass english!)
Always wanted to do Italians in temperate clothing but never could decide on the colour for the uniforms.ive seen a green grey colour and a grey blue uniform but like you have commented are these repro or genuine faded originals.anyway tjlhe figures look great.👍
Italians had two "temperate" uniforms - a standard green-grey uniform and a grey-blue uniform that was lighter weight and used for marching or labor duties, or worn by troops behind the frontlines.
The green camo would be better suited for the pattern on Paracadutisti patterns, I think. Might be a little dark for the uniforms, but depending on how you wanted to layer it up might work better as a base coat.
Great research Troy and a tremendous painting tutorial. Now do I follow yours or do I try my own, beauty is the way the uniform fades I can do a unit of both.
I'd think mixing in a little Light Grey to some of the basecoats would work wonders for shifting things around, too. I ordinarily try to avoid mixes in my flat colours, but I think it'd work super well for that faded wool look.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio That would be an interesting addition. I'll have to get the German Uniform Green, John will be happy when i pop in to the shop to buy paint.
one complaint I have about the kit is a lack of left handed arms. For example, you have a grenade being thrown in the right hand, but your only left handed options to go with this are the "Italian gesture" or a pointing arm, nothing else
There's a left arm with a slung Carcano carbine on the sprue, too - check up by the Blackshirt fez heads, you'll see it commonly used on the MG loaders as well.
@@lj3605 Haha! Happens to the best of us. 😂 I like to have the pointing arms on loaders normally so I don't use up the slung weapons, but there's usually a couple spares.
Very informative on somewhat lesser known uniforms and equipment. When do you add mixing medium to your shades and when do you use them straight or “neat”?
A great instructional vid as always! I think your channel is one of the ones that encouraged me to get into SWW mini's and those rule sets. I've been waiting for this one as I've built a few of my plastic Italians but not painted them yet. Probably going for the green uniforms for Sicily/Italy. With talk of plastic Bersagleri in the future I might save doing a desert force for them! I've one question though: There's a couple of chaps with the smock cover over their uniforms - Do you reckon a khaki or khaki grey? Thanks!
Best bet for the smocks would be something like German Camo Beige or even Medium Grey (which isn't grey at all, weirdly) to get a lighter, faded khaki colour that'll stand out against the rest of their gear.
Question about the Italians can I mix army painter wolf grey and Vallejo field grey too get good results the warlord field grey is out of stock right now.
I'd suggest you're probably better off just using German Field Grey from Vallejo. I'm not sure where the idea of mixing the *incredibly blue* Wolf Grey in came from, because that's way off from any of the colour swatches or descriptions I've seen of Italian uniforms have ever mentioned.
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Goggles go "bip", decals go "bop"
It's very important that people get the sounds right or these things just won't work!
He has to go bip and bop. He’s braving painting chinstraps with a tank brush!
Best painting content on RUclips by miles.
As predicted, I absolutely loved this one. Sorry it won't get the views of an Ultramarine, but these are the kinds of things that make your channel a favorite.
I'll paint one blue next time, just to tweak the numbers. ;D
So great to see Soft Tone getting some love! I used this in vast quantities for my Soviets and it looks so great for anything yellow, beige, or even white. Big up Soft Tone, and great painting as always!
It's so good! In part the reason why I tend to use a couple of different paint manufacturers in these things is not just because it's the easiest method more often than not, but to try and demonstrate to folks that sometimes trying that new range might be worth it. :D
Bersaglieri wore fezzes and were some of the best Italian Infantry. (As well as Pith Helmets with feathered plumes on them) Considered Elite by the Germans and British.
Got to love an army that still opted to form square in WW2!
Awesome! This is going to come in handy for my desert Italians. Strange the warlord instructions say to use German camo orange ochre and canvas for the tropical uniform. I think I like your colors better.
The orange ochre looks a lot more 'sandy' than it does orange in practice - I think most of their guides assume you're going to return to base coats before going straight to highlights after chucking the shade on there, but I'm not that patient! 😅
Once again you have come to my rescue. Bought a box of these recently and was flummoxed how to paint them and now I know. 👍🏻
Great to hear!
Fantastic work and tips here. Thank you for your tutorials!
Sempre avanti Savoia! Awesome video and awesome painting job!
Just finished watching the video, and though I haven't painted any historical miniatures, the information about the different greens, was rather interesting. Also loved seeing how easy rank and file guys can be battle ready. Well done boss.
Excellent double dip video mate. Really nice job and color choices. Hi from Hollywood.
Thank you , Troy .
Actually I live in the city where Savoia was living in Italy. Very happy to see this minis painted! (Btw our skin is very pale, we are at North of the Italy, at the start of 1900 find a dark tone skilled soldier was a very rare event).
I’m not gonna lie, I’m disappointed I bought and painted a whole army of bersengali for Crossfire before this video. Your models look amazing!
That's just a fine excuse to get some more and start a fresh platoon! ;D
Just waiting for my starter set to arrive and so this tutorial is really just what I need! Thanks very much.👍
Fantastic painting tutorial and I can’t wait to try this one out. One question. In the army and blackshirts set, you get an option of tunics; one being the Camiciotto Sahariano smock and the other being the M37 or M40 tunic. Do you know what the difference is? I’m guessing the latter is for tropical uniforms? Thanks again.
Love that you got the hand gesture in there!
This was great and I learned a lot about the Italian Army uniforms. Thanks for sharing this.
They both look fantastic like the desert one best but only just.
Man I was waiting for this guide!
Great job and colour palette.
Grazie Mille!
Great video! Loved the variety of paints and the color comparison talk. It was a great episode thank you.
Fantastic video with great hints and tips
I’ve just started watching but I have to stop and comment: if I can find an accordion player, my next band will be called The Plastic Italians.
Yes. REMARKABLE. Absolutely do it. The only one I know of is in the wrong uniform, but... badsquiddogames.com/shop#!/Accordian-Player/p/368672377/category=36713221
Great looking stuff!
Lovely insight into the minis and uniform.
Fantastic video Thankyou very much would you be able to do a Italian black shirt one? As I have 30 to paint but have not seen a decent one to copy yet
Luckily, their uniform's exactly the same. Except... well, a black shirt. 😅 The soft fez hats they would sometimes wear are also the same green grey cloth as everything else, so what you've got here will work just fine for black shirts.
Absolutely fantastic as always!
Love watching you paint, even if it's for a game I don't play
I just bought a pack of metal Italian infantry. So happy you actually did a video on them. 🤌🤌🤌
I'm amazed by the dedication to find the right paints and to be historically accurate. :D It's kinda neat to consider all that! Thank you for discussing in such detail. Also cool to see Italians talk with their hands even as they walk into battle. :D
I don't know that it's absolutely necessary for it to be perfect, but it's nice! Half the fun is in the research. :D
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio If the pics I've perused are anything to go by the only real mistake you can make is to make their uniforms match.
Super job yet again. Just working on some San Marco marines and I’ll use this as a primer.
The models look very well sculpted & have so many options. Since there is an option for North Africa, I may get a box to add to my Africa Korps to proxy early DAK, which had the horrible green jackets & sun hats.
A great tutorial as usual . Like a lot the desert uniform .
Stunning video!
super cool
Nicely done!Viva l'Italia!
I just mixed AP field grey with wolf grey as recommended, but did it to a point where it was similar to field grey but not exactly the same.
Nice work love the channel !
great job so nice
Another good video - thanks
Caio mate, You have spoiled us with two minis!
Well, this is one of those subjects where I figure it's easiest to do it once and did it right when the opportunity is there!
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio at this rate you’ll do a full squad of soldiers 😆
Those paint jobs look excellent, really really nice work.
I know you've done quite a few videos like this one and painted whole forces but your practice and experimentation is paying dividends (thank you for putting in the work so we can have an easy time!) and I love the tone differences in the desert uniform.
For a BA nerd point comp Italians can be done because of their absolutely mg festooned vehicles (but army composition is exceptionally limited and dull if played to win - damned shame).
Nice, my Italians are arriving Thursday! Will be starting Eastern Front Italians.
Excellent choice! You don't see many of those armies on the table facing off against the Russians. Hope this helps!
I also want to Start an eastern Front italian Army. But im a Bit disapointed by the Tanks in the selector
The L6/40 is actually a really useful little tank. Nice and cheap, and kicks out a decent number of shots for something that small. You don't get anything big in the tank slot, sure, but against Russians you're not likely to need it. Save the points for a big artillery piece - you have great AT capability in the two dual-purpose AA guns available to Italians, which can also fire respectable HE against infantry.
@@fairman1000 Lol yeah the L6/40's one-man turret rule makes it kinda suck. I wish the selector had the AB40 (as they had in real life), as that thing wrecks on the table.
Would caliban green work instead of German uniform?
Not really; Caliban Green is much, much darker and more saturated. It's a totally different green. If you're stuck with Citadel paints for alternatives, Waaagh Flesh would be the closest approximate replacement.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio I just got an Italy paint set. What about Vallejo Olive Grey?
Thank you for this great video...i love the new italians.
Would you also make a "how to paint video " about the italian Paracadutisti camo?
At some point! Hopefully there's a company with an eye on new Italian paratroopers some time soon. The Warlord metal ones are looking a little tired these days!
Your Italiens looks great! Are you also make a Video of the new Italian Paracadutisti?
You spell of "Grigio verde" is perfect, don't worry.
Side question (sort of): from a model prospective mix this kit with french partisans is a viable option to kitbash italian partisans?
Which partisans kit? If you're referring to the Wargames Atlantic kit, these Warlord Games arms unfortunately don't really fit well with the WGA torsos. If you're looking for old, clapped-out weaponry for partisans to have by this era, mixing and matching with the WGA French or German WWI infantry might be worth looking into, or some of the earliest Warlord plastics might work - I know the Blitzkrieg German arms do fit rather well.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio my bad: I was thinking to the French Resistance Squad made by WarlordGames. I'll consider a Wargames Atlantic kit but the head system does not convince me.
As always thank you for the answer (and the patience for my crass english!)
Nice... as usual.
26:24 that italian soldier really be going 🤌
Always wanted to do Italians in temperate clothing but never could decide on the colour for the uniforms.ive seen a green grey colour and a grey blue uniform but like you have commented are these repro or genuine faded originals.anyway tjlhe figures look great.👍
Italians had two "temperate" uniforms - a standard green-grey uniform and a grey-blue uniform that was lighter weight and used for marching or labor duties, or worn by troops behind the frontlines.
Ammo by Mig has a colour called "Italian green camo" which to me looks a lot like Army painter's Cultist Robes in my opinion.
The green camo would be better suited for the pattern on Paracadutisti patterns, I think. Might be a little dark for the uniforms, but depending on how you wanted to layer it up might work better as a base coat.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Good point, may field grey with a green wash? Just make it look distinctive from the German field grey?
Omg the Hand gesture of the figure in the green uniform is stereotypical
Great research Troy and a tremendous painting tutorial. Now do I follow yours or do I try my own, beauty is the way the uniform fades I can do a unit of both.
I'd think mixing in a little Light Grey to some of the basecoats would work wonders for shifting things around, too. I ordinarily try to avoid mixes in my flat colours, but I think it'd work super well for that faded wool look.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio That would be an interesting addition. I'll have to get the German Uniform Green, John will be happy when i pop in to the shop to buy paint.
one complaint I have about the kit is a lack of left handed arms. For example, you have a grenade being thrown in the right hand, but your only left handed options to go with this are the "Italian gesture" or a pointing arm, nothing else
There's a left arm with a slung Carcano carbine on the sprue, too - check up by the Blackshirt fez heads, you'll see it commonly used on the MG loaders as well.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio a ha thank you Turns out I couldn't find that because I'd already used it for my loader!
@@lj3605 Haha! Happens to the best of us. 😂 I like to have the pointing arms on loaders normally so I don't use up the slung weapons, but there's usually a couple spares.
The gesture 😅
It's named on the part list as 'Italian gesture,' too. 😂
Waddyawannado!?!
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio it seems like it's basic Italian equipment, haha
Very informative on somewhat lesser known uniforms and equipment.
When do you add mixing medium to your shades and when do you use them straight or “neat”?
I desperately want too see a konflict 47 New Zealand army from you !
Well, as mentioned... I'm slooowly gathering the parts to do it right! 😁
A great instructional vid as always! I think your channel is one of the ones that encouraged me to get into SWW mini's and those rule sets.
I've been waiting for this one as I've built a few of my plastic Italians but not painted them yet. Probably going for the green uniforms for Sicily/Italy. With talk of plastic Bersagleri in the future I might save doing a desert force for them!
I've one question though: There's a couple of chaps with the smock cover over their uniforms - Do you reckon a khaki or khaki grey?
Thanks!
Best bet for the smocks would be something like German Camo Beige or even Medium Grey (which isn't grey at all, weirdly) to get a lighter, faded khaki colour that'll stand out against the rest of their gear.
helmet should be chromatic green, leather straps and bullet pouches are a olive green color
What would you suggest for the Sahariana jacket?
Might I ask what turntable you're using for the opening and closing?
It's a solar turntable - I honestly don't recall the brand name. Any old one you spot on Amazon or in store will work.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio thank you!
Question about the Italians can I mix army painter wolf grey and Vallejo field grey too get good results the warlord field grey is out of stock right now.
I'd suggest you're probably better off just using German Field Grey from Vallejo. I'm not sure where the idea of mixing the *incredibly blue* Wolf Grey in came from, because that's way off from any of the colour swatches or descriptions I've seen of Italian uniforms have ever mentioned.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio it was on the instructions lol
Really great tutorial love the desert figure can you use the same dark sand for the helmet.
For the helmet I'd suggest something like Desert Yellow - a little darker, a bit more 'solid.'
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Thank you
Does anyone know what is the difference between yellow and black helmet markings for italians? Great vid btw, thx for your colour advises!!
Comment for the algorithm. :-)
I have the urge to get bolt action, but I’m already addicted to warhammer, help
25:42 to see it happen.
Or just play a better rule set than BA ;P They look amazing
qui in Italia se compri queste cose ti danno del fascista... non abbiamo ancora risolto i problemi con il nostro passato