+Ivan Travels Squanto obviously didn't hold a grudge against the Europeans after being kidnapped. If I were him I would have stayed clear of the white man!
I wish that both Kate and Shevon could host various episodes of this show. They each have qualities that are really entertaining. Kate is gorgeous, adorable, and very pleasant to listen to. Shevon is quirky and hilarious... everything she says and does makes me belly laugh!
For reference - Harvest Festival is a common Autumnal tradition in Britain - as it is in many European cultures, and the main inspiration for the codified Thanksgiving of North America. However it is mostly observed in primary schools (up to age 11), churches, charities for the poor and hungry and rural areas where farming/harvest is still part of daily life - and is not viewed as a formal holiday, at least in the UK.
she's pretty accurate. Simple holiday. Secular feast day. Visit grandma, eat well, talk, and watch American football all afternoon. We have Fri off too, so women shop or visit and men watch more football, then everyone drives or flies home on Sat and Sun.
+John Stuart Mill. Actually the thanks being given is up to the free will of the assembled family. They pick the object for their thanks. The holiday falls on no ordained saints day, a Thursday, and is not ordered or directly observed in any mainstream religious tradition or obligation. Unlike Christmas and Easter which are the last of the Holy feast days of Anglo-American protestants. Though it is often imagined romantically to have been originally a religious feast day, the Puritan seperatists were Dessenters and did not celebrate holy feast days at all, like King William of Orange and Cromwell would also discourage later in the 1600s. These Seperatists were trying to flee the Stuart Kings who were closet Catholics and pushed for High Anglican traditions or else in the police state of 17th cen Britain. If Thanksgiving had come from a story of the earlier Jamestown settlers, then it'd probably be on Sunday and involve church and at least be an Episcopal thing today. Oh, I did the dishes and don't watch any sports myself. Never was interested.
+John Stuart Mill That's okay. I don't want men in my kitchen, screwing up my Thanksgiving dinner. I have my own routine and if they want dinner to be edible and on time, they'll stay out of my way.
Kate's a brilliant speaker. Even though she's seemingly tired in this Ep., she still unerringly delivers as crisp as a late-September-morning apple-off-the-tree. John's a lucky man indeed! God save those that would make her mad, however!
Hi Kate! Longtime watcher of Anglophenia, featuring your incredibly charming self! I have to say, your videos about British culture seem to be targeted primarily at Americans. That's all fine and good, but what about those of us in THE COMMONWEALTH? As a Canadian, it's always interesting to see Americans and Brits banter about all the stuff they find odd about eachother. A fair bit of the time, I recognize aspects of both. We have plenty of things in common - Smarties! Politeness! The Queen! Pubs! A Westminster-stlye parliament! Scones! The letter "zed"! ZED!!!! Why not do a few episodes about what THE EMPIRE has left behind, for better or worse, in their former colonies? Because there are still some things about Britain that we find more familiar than some of our *cough* more immediate neighbours... Thanks!
MSI2k for some reason, I cannot distinguish British men and women. Their facial bone structure are so masculine than what I'm used to. So most British women like this one look like handsome young lads to me.
Great video. As an American I know most of these (except for the puke-stockings bit) from my school days, but it's a wonderful refresher with the holiday coming up. If I can throw in one small fact - there were semi-regular thanksgivings feasts before 1863. But they were not on a set date nor were they nation wide. Rather the governors of the various states (OK, occasionally Congress would get in on the act) would just declare a thanksgiving ad hoc whenever they wanted to celebrate something 'neat' that had happened - except for a national Thanksgiving declared by Pres. Washington in 1789. So not every state would not have it at the same time. Some years some states would not have one and others they may have two. So it was rather a mess until Pres. Lincoln standardized it in 1863.
You were taught useful, accurate information about the settlers and the first Thanksgiving in American school? I'm American and was taught virtually nothing useful or accurate about the settling of our country. Just a lot of "Columbus was the greatest" and "what slaughter of the indigenous peoples?" and "Eric the who?". I wish I had gone to your school growing up.
+sanityisrelative Oh believe me, I make my school sound waaay better than it really was. Seriously, they once called class because of deer season. But we did have one teacher that actually used Thanksgiving as an excuse to teach about the colonization days and for some reason that stuff stuck. Plus, there are a couple of reservations near my hometown, so the whole "Columbus was the greatest" line was never going to float anyway.
Awesome video!Happy Thanksgiving from Iowa.Would you ever consider making a video about the difference between American money and British Pound Sterling?I think this would be a great idea.Maybe even show us some Pounds.Thanks.God Bless!
Canadian Thanksgiving is earlier in the year (October) and is a newer tradition where we celebrate the coming of the first frost. This cold weather begins to freeze the zombie hordes that rampage across our nation, and we are finally free to venture from our fortified homes to forage for food and get in some Christmas shopping.
+David Boos Yeah, she was missing some information. She should have said something along the lines of being set a week earlier for the Depression, but due to conflicting views among the states, it was eventually settled upon as the fourth Thursday of November. (It was celebrated on the third, fourth, and fifth Thursday by various states until the change was finally accepted.)
My husband is British and he had his first Thanksgiving while we were dating. Every person who did not have family was invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, if you cant get there because you we sick or unable to walk , free ambulance service will pick you up and take you to where you need to go. My family had several people who are not family members come and they dined like kings and queens, my family are great cooks. They left with never to be seen tupperware containers full of everything you can think of. Thanksgiving is a reminder to be thankful for what you have and to be kind and generous towards others.
I'm thankful our thanksgiving is actually around harvest time, ie October. A thanksgiving this near to Christmas? When everyone flies home to be with family, even though they will see them in a month? That's insane!
The first Thanksgiving actually took place two years earlier at a plantation named Berkeley Hundred (hundred was the olden name for what would become plantations). This hundred is located in Charles Cittie (City) County, VA. They celebrated this first Thanksgiving when the original workers on the hundred arrived to Virginia from England in 1619.
Me and my cat love to feast on thanksgiving. Turkey and mashed potatoes are my favorites. Also as a family tradition my family watched thanksgiving Macy's parade and the Dog Show afterwards
Actually, the first official Thanksgiving was held in Virginia, at Berkley Plantation (called Berkley Hundred at that time) on December 4, 1619, 2 years earlier than the Pilgrims. It was Sarah Josepha Hale who led the campaign to have the Pilgrim's Thanksgiving named as the first.
Anybody who has looked at history a little would realize that a lot of the recipes used in that first feast would have come from England. Looking at English recipes from the time period would have been a great addition to this video.
Favorite part of Thanksgiving??? My Wife and I and her mom and dad we all pitch in and cook a huge dinner for the four of us. Then in the afternoon (while the turkey slow cooks on the smoker) Dad and I go duck hunting until sunset. Then stuff ourselves silly, and watching football, followed by a tradition my wife and I started 20 years ago- Watching "A Christmas Story" in the evening with her mom and dad- thus kicking off our holiday season:-)
The new world still was relatively new, I mean, knowing and exploring the same continents for thousands of years? Heck, it still IS relatively new, and it's cultures young.
Was it the whole episode or just a segment? I'm hoping the latter because have an entire episode of a British TV show all about an American holiday sounds a little bit obsessive. (I know us Americans are just pure entertainment to you Britons, but still …)
Thanksgiving is a lovely holiday--not in terms of its origins so much as what it is. It's simply a day to gather with family and friends and give thanks for...whatever. It's a holiday that just about everyone in the US shares--and it's kind of cool to think that most people in the country, even if there are some variations, are all putting the same meal on the table, including turkey, stuffing, white potatoes, sweet potatoes, cranberry sauce, and pumpkin pie. It's also one of the least commercial holidays, because all people buy for it is food. Love Thanksgiving.
+PerthTowne Don't forget our Hispanic buddies, who cook tamales! And our Italian friends, who cook lasagna. And regional differences, like in the South, where we include collard greens and black-eye peas. It's cool how every ethnic group puts their own spin on it.
Rainy Day Absolutely! That's why I wrote, even if there are some variations. Everyone's got the basic turkey, cranberry, and so on. But I think most ethnic groups add a dish or a few that put their own spin on it. :)
Nowadays it's becoming more and more commercialized as retail stores open earlier and earlier on Thanksgiving instead of at least waiting until midnight to start Black Friday sales. This past year, places like Target and Walmart started their sales at 6pm on Thursday, which is prime Thanksgiving dinner time. I'm afraid the good old days of a calm holiday are gone.
+PerthTowne Turkey industry likes Thanksgiving I'm sure. The best time to buy turkey is after thanksgiving when they're trying to get rid of the extras that didn't sell :)
I love watching Anglophenia. Kate gives such great UK info. I'm a yank married to a brit who knows nothing at all about his country's history. Love to wind him up with what I learn LOL...Thanks Kate :)
The "Pilgrims" arrived at the Plymouth Colony in 1620 and had their "Thanksgiving" in 1621. And this is called the First Thanksgiving. Never mind the fact that there is a documented Day of Thanksgiving in Virginia at the Berkley Hundred in 1619. And while not documented there probably were days of thanksgiving on Roanoke Island in 1585 before the colony disappeared and at Jamestown Colony in 1607; there was surely a celebration of thanksgiving when , in 1610, Thomas West, Baron De La Warr, new governor of Virginia re supplied Jamestown Colony after the Starving Time.
I love Thanksgiving. I’m in the southern portion of the US where there is a “stuffing vs dressing war.” Dressing is essentially a modest soufflé made from the savory cornbread stuffing to which eggs and milk are added, then baked. To keep the peace, I stuff the Turkey with the drier seasoned cornbread crumbs (don’t worry - it moistens beautifully inside the juicy bird. The purpose of stuffing is to maintain the turkey’s shape. The remaining seasoned cornbread gets the beaten eggs and milk as stated earlier. Both are divine. Mashed potatoes and vegetable sides are served, plus yeast rolls hot from the oven. Don’t forget the gravy! And the homemade cranberry sauce. In our family, we have pecan pie and apple pie, scratch-made. If someone pleads in advance I can be called upon to make a pumpkin pie as well.
Squanto's story is MUCH more interesting than the common story of the Dessenter/seperatists that came to the future US, almost 2 decades AFTER the Virginians. A lot of the pilgrim prose was New Englanders trying to grab a historic center stage, and after the US Civil War, most Jamestown references were played down, liabled or written out of US history for children.
The first Thanksgiving was celebrated and codified in Virginia in 1619 at Berkeley Hundred by colonists arriving aboard the ship Margaret. The Plymouth version of the story became popularized during the American Civil War because "Yankees" couldn't bring themselves to celebrate what was essentially a Southern holiday.
Another fun fact about Thanksgiving. The Macy's parade was originally promoted as Macy's Christmas Parade, but because they kept having it earlier to get more shoppers into the holiday buying spirit, it eventually became a Thanksgiving tradition. Hence, the reason the finale of the parade is the arrival of Santa Claus.
one of the funniest things i learned in my us history class was that nobody actually knows when this "first thanksgiving" took place so they just said "last thursday of november". also learned they didnt even eat things like turkey and pumpkin pie. one of the things that was supposedly at the dinner table, was eel ??? lol
Lincoln pushed back the day because the North was losing the in Civil War. Lincoln gave his Gettysburg Address November 19th 1863 and they did have a victory the Battle of Missionary Ridge and he called for a National Day of Prayer and Thanksgiving on the 26th.
I have actually toured New England (Massachusetts to Maine) and been to Plymouth. Plymouth Rock, is NOT in Massachusetts Bay, but landlocked on a beach, surrounded by a shrine. In the 1970s, there was a lot of consternation because tourists were chipping off bits as souvenirs. So, if the Pilgrims had landed on Plymouth Rock, their ship would have run aground unless the configuration of the bay was vastly different in 1620 than it is today (which is possible).
+Des The Puritans who landed stole corn from American Indian villages. I believe it's how they survived. None of them knew how to farm, not that that's an excuse.
+Des Also, I read in one account that the Puritans had just slaughtered a village of American Indians, probably to steal their corn and other foodstuffs, and that's what they "gave thanks" for.
Oh, please read a damn history book. The pilgrims did not just go around murdering Indians and taking their land. They weren't stupid and they weren't evil. They understood diplomacy and wanted to make allies of the local tribes. The first colonists and the Wampanoag got along perfectly well. The land they built their home on had been the childhood home of Tisquantum, but it had been abandoned when disease spread through the area before the colonists arrived. They didn't have to steal that land, Massasoit gave them permission to settle there. They did not kill any natives until much later when Metacomet and his people started murdering colonists. They were at war with each other after that. This modern narrative where the Pilgrims were evil racists and the Indians were gentle harmless victims is a bunch of baloney. It was nowhere near being that black and white
the pilgrims actually had "thanksgiving" a lot,it was one of the quirks shall we say. everyone survived the winter? thanksgiving. Mary got pregnant?thanksgiving. The baby lived? thanksgiving. So the thanksgiving we all celebrate is just the first one with the natives.
Actually, in 1942, Congress set Thanksgiving to the 4th Thursday in November. It was the last Thursday from 1864 to 1937. President Roosevelt moved it up 1 week in 1938 then again in 1939 and 1940. But many states, like Massachusetts, refused to observe Roosevelt's date and celebrated on the original date. Thus prompting Congress to set the day permanently to the 4th Thursday.
i love how when people are exiled from england to 'Holland' that whatever they do from there on is still 'english' or 'british' history. gotta always keep their hand in the pot somehow and take credit for most things that have happened in the world lol
Thankyou! I'd like to point out that Lincoln made thanksgiving as a morale booster for the bedraggled soldiers. Also, thanks giving was changed from the last thurs. in Nov. to the 4th Thursday inWW2 or right after...Why?
Point of fact: Thanksgiving is always observed on the FOURTH Thursday in November, which is not always the last Thursday. 2012 and 2017 are examples of five-Thursday Novembers.
+timharrod I'm glad you noticed that error, too. Kate mentioned that it was celebrated on the fourth Thursday only during the Depression, but in fact that is when it was changed from the last to the fourth Thursday (yes, to allow more time for Christmas shopping) and has been way that ever since.
2:44 My favorite part was to learn about that guy who came over on the Mayflower who had an insatiable shoe fetish! I can totally relate! I travel the same way!!
thanks folks. I love harvest time and the smell of fall in the air and my air tight burning in my kitchen with the feasts cooking. ;-) I was always wondering. I am From Nova Scotia and Snow is unpredictable in the Maritime provinces that's for sure. :-)
+Anglophenia oh, it's not the last Thursday of November, but the 4th Thursday in November. (There's a rare occasion where there are 5 Thursdays in Nov, but it would still be celebrated on the 4th Thursday.)
I've recently been fascinated by what the Pilgrims would have eaten. The Indians brought deer meat with them, about five of them since they weren't sure that the Pilgrims would have enough, and they didn't have any bakeries so they would have had pies or stuffing. One other major thing was Thanksgiving is a misnomer. If it was a genuine thanksgiving they would be inviting the Indians and the Indians wouldn't have wanted to come because a genuine thanksgiving is really praying and fasting and not feasting as was done with the first Thanksgiving. Supposedly the feast was based around the Feast of the Tabernacles, which was actually Old Testament inspired.
Excellent! Kate, I'm heading on my maiden voyage to London next week. Very excited. I'll try to pronounce Leicester correctly.. Any suggestions where I could enjoy a British Thanksgiving? Or a warm pint? I'll be staying near Hyde Park
Thanksgiving Day comes from the celebration after the Spanish Armada failed to conquer England in 1588. It was celebrated in November, a week or 10 days after Queen Elizabeth I's Accession Day. I've read different stories about what killed so much of the native population. Some say it was Hepatitis A, from sharing food and drink out of the same vessels. There was a fight between English and French fishing ships on the coast of Maine. The French won and left the English on shore. Within a few years, 90% of the local native population was dead, and some of those were able to speak English.
Asians were actually the first "Pilgrims" to arrive in the New World. The American Indians who are descendants of Asian hunters from Siberia migrated to the Americas over 40,000 years ago. Also, the first modern Asians to arrive in the Americas were Filipino men from the Philippines who worked as sailors and navigators. They crossed the Pacific Ocean on galleons and landed on Morro Bay, California in 1587 -- several decades before the European Pilgrims arrived.
Actually, Thanksgiving has been celebrated on the 4th Thursday of November since the Depression. Most years this is also the last Thursday, but every few years, the 29th or the 30th falls on a Thursday, making it the 5th Thursday. It's still the 4th Thursday that Thanksgiving is celebrated.
Thanksgiving in Canada = 2nd Monday in October. It falls on the same day as Columbus Day in the US, although they most certainly do not share anything in common.
+Kevin R ....and concentrate on the differences between Rugby and American football, and Cricket and Baseball. (and what about these new 'walking' sports: walking rugby, basketball, etc)
+Lev Myshkin Basketball isn't very popular in the US. The most popular sport by far is (American) football and the second most popular depends on what state you're in, which teams are winning, what season it is etc.
I come from a big family. When I was a boy the Turkey must have been 25....35.....657 pounds or more.. My mother would have to wake up before dawn on St Patrick's Day to get the turkey in the oven on time. and we always had creamed onions... because grandma always had creamed onions... like Squanto did. and then the football games... real football. not the mamby-pamby soccer stuff the play in For'n Parts.
Ah! You must be referring to the pass time that we refer to as "American Hand Egg." This is a derivative of Rugby (though it has evolved a lot. In Rugby Union in Britain we use the 'Scrum' where as American and Canada took the idea of 'Downs'. Also... you pass the ball forward. I don't even!) And in turn Rugby was a derivative of football, or this soccer nonsense as you call it... though to be fair it was all pretty much just called football originally, so what do I know?
ChromeDrakeGaming well, if you are trying to get to the goal and don't pass the ball forward..... then you aren't doing yourself any favors now are you? ;-) (don;t even start with the off sides rule in soccer AKA "football" in For'in Parts)
+Badzeep I agree. As a citizen of the United Kingdom I wish people would call it the UK rather Great Britain or Britain. Even worse is calling the whole of the UK 'England'! I am sure Anglophenia has covered this. I still refer to England, Scotland, etc, but only when referring to that particular part of the UK.
Bas Steeman We all know she meant the Netherlands. Else they would've gotten an image of the two provinces instead of the Netherlands with the national flag. AndrewofWare I can tell you that (unfortunately) a lot of the Dutch people mean England when they talk about the UK. It's a shame Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland are usually forgotten.
+Badzeep I don't think she was looking at that picture when she said it. You can say whoever did the graphics is wrong, but what she's saying is factually correct. The Netherlands was just a confederation of provinces at this point in time, each with their own government.
I've instantly fallen in love with the natural charm of this woman.
Poor Squanto
I was thinking the same thing :(
+Ivan Travels Squanto obviously didn't hold a grudge against the Europeans after being kidnapped. If I were him I would have stayed clear of the white man!
+Kevin P lol
+Kevin P He would've made a wonderful SJW.
+Ivan Travels That was my thoughts.
I wish that both Kate and Shevon could host various episodes of this show. They each have qualities that are really entertaining. Kate is gorgeous, adorable, and very pleasant to listen to. Shevon is quirky and hilarious... everything she says and does makes me belly laugh!
that's not even close to how you spell siobhan....
wow.
she did what most teachers tell you to do, she sounded the word out.
hahaha fair enough. I feel her pain tho cause my name is Lis, and its ALWAYS spelled wrong.
I was, definitely, a little harsh with my initial "wow". Misspellings happen, we all try.
In November, Americans celebrate the Brits coming, and in July they celebrate the Brits going. Confused nation.
+stephen smith We only like them for about 6 months out of the year. Any longer and we'd probably riot in the streets. ;P
Lol
+stephen smith Great comment. I'd never thought of it like that.
+stephen smith that my friend i clever ;];];];]
+stephen smith In the UK we celebrate them leaving on the Mayflower, we call it "thank God they've gone day" ha ha
For reference - Harvest Festival is a common Autumnal tradition in Britain - as it is in many European cultures, and the main inspiration for the codified Thanksgiving of North America. However it is mostly observed in primary schools (up to age 11), churches, charities for the poor and hungry and rural areas where farming/harvest is still part of daily life - and is not viewed as a formal holiday, at least in the UK.
As a Brit I knew very little about thanksgiving, so found this video very informative. Thank you.
she's pretty accurate. Simple holiday. Secular feast day. Visit grandma, eat well, talk, and watch American football all afternoon. We have Fri off too, so women shop or visit and men watch more football, then everyone drives or flies home on Sat and Sun.
+Atheist Orphan She's mostly right. I refer you to S Jones's comments above to round out the info.
+John Stuart Mill. Actually the thanks being given is up to the free will of the assembled family. They pick the object for their thanks. The holiday falls on no ordained saints day, a Thursday, and is not ordered or directly observed in any mainstream religious tradition or obligation. Unlike Christmas and Easter which are the last of the Holy feast days of Anglo-American protestants.
Though it is often imagined romantically to have been originally a religious feast day, the Puritan seperatists were Dessenters and did not celebrate holy feast days at all, like King William of Orange and Cromwell would also discourage later in the 1600s. These Seperatists were trying to flee the Stuart Kings who were closet Catholics and pushed for High Anglican traditions or else in the police state of 17th cen Britain.
If Thanksgiving had come from a story of the earlier Jamestown settlers, then it'd probably be on Sunday and involve church and at least be an Episcopal thing today.
Oh, I did the dishes and don't watch any sports myself. Never was interested.
+John Stuart Mill That's okay. I don't want men in my kitchen, screwing up my Thanksgiving dinner. I have my own routine and if they want dinner to be edible and on time, they'll stay out of my way.
AMEN!
Kate's a brilliant speaker. Even though she's seemingly tired in this Ep., she still unerringly delivers as crisp as a late-September-morning apple-off-the-tree. John's a lucky man indeed! God save those that would make her mad, however!
Hi Kate!
Longtime watcher of Anglophenia, featuring your incredibly charming self! I have to say, your videos about British culture seem to be targeted primarily at Americans. That's all fine and good, but what about those of us in THE COMMONWEALTH?
As a Canadian, it's always interesting to see Americans and Brits banter about all the stuff they find odd about eachother. A fair bit of the time, I recognize aspects of both. We have plenty of things in common - Smarties! Politeness! The Queen! Pubs! A Westminster-stlye parliament! Scones! The letter "zed"! ZED!!!!
Why not do a few episodes about what THE EMPIRE has left behind, for better or worse, in their former colonies? Because there are still some things about Britain that we find more familiar than some of our *cough* more immediate neighbours...
Thanks!
How is this woman so gorgeous? Unearthly beauty!
she's hot as hell😍
+bobbydylanio that's a nice and clean complement. smooth
MSI2k she reminds me of the gorgeous Julie Andrews.
MSI2k for some reason, I cannot distinguish British men and women. Their facial bone structure are so masculine than what I'm used to. So most British women like this one look like handsome young lads to me.
Give me Emma Watson, anytime!
I love our channel. Your topics are always interesting and your personality just beams. Thanks!
They should make a film about Squanto's life.
PCLHH it would be one of the sadness movies ever
They did make one back in the 90s. I heard it was not very good.
thanksgiving is also celebrated in German countries ('Erntedankfest'), and probably in many other countries and cultures.
Great video. As an American I know most of these (except for the puke-stockings bit) from my school days, but it's a wonderful refresher with the holiday coming up.
If I can throw in one small fact - there were semi-regular thanksgivings feasts before 1863. But they were not on a set date nor were they nation wide. Rather the governors of the various states (OK, occasionally Congress would get in on the act) would just declare a thanksgiving ad hoc whenever they wanted to celebrate something 'neat' that had happened - except for a national Thanksgiving declared by Pres. Washington in 1789. So not every state would not have it at the same time. Some years some states would not have one and others they may have two. So it was rather a mess until Pres. Lincoln standardized it in 1863.
I didn't know this - interesting, thanks!
You were taught useful, accurate information about the settlers and the first Thanksgiving in American school? I'm American and was taught virtually nothing useful or accurate about the settling of our country. Just a lot of "Columbus was the greatest" and "what slaughter of the indigenous peoples?" and "Eric the who?". I wish I had gone to your school growing up.
+sanityisrelative Oh believe me, I make my school sound waaay better than it really was. Seriously, they once called class because of deer season. But we did have one teacher that actually used Thanksgiving as an excuse to teach about the colonization days and for some reason that stuff stuck. Plus, there are a couple of reservations near my hometown, so the whole "Columbus was the greatest" line was never going to float anyway.
Awesome video!Happy Thanksgiving from Iowa.Would you ever consider making a video about the difference between American money and British Pound Sterling?I think this would be a great idea.Maybe even show us some Pounds.Thanks.God Bless!
I think I would have liked if she's explained the differences between Canadian and Chinese thanksgivings to the American one
+kattphive Canadian Thanksgiving started out as Harvest Festival .....giving thanks for the harvest...but now has become American Thanksgiving.
Canadian Thanksgiving is earlier in the year (October) and is a newer tradition where we celebrate the coming of the first frost. This cold weather begins to freeze the zombie hordes that rampage across our nation, and we are finally free to venture from our fortified homes to forage for food and get in some Christmas shopping.
It's an absolutely true made up fact.
+郭鑫 (guess you're not current on English history-they always know everything)
+郭鑫 I am guessing the Chinese Thanksgiving is the same as that of the American, except with Turkey Chow Mein.
Technically, Thanksgiving is celebrated on the 4th Thursday in November. (It's possible to have 5 Thursdays in November.)
+David Boos Before pointing it out myself, I had a look to see if it had been mentioned.
+Árpád Farkas Ditto.
+David Boos You beat me to it. The next time that happens will be in 2017, when Thanksgiving will be on the 23rd, not the 30th.
+David Boos Yeah, she was missing some information. She should have said something along the lines of being set a week earlier for the Depression, but due to conflicting views among the states, it was eventually settled upon as the fourth Thursday of November. (It was celebrated on the third, fourth, and fifth Thursday by various states until the change was finally accepted.)
I celebrate the native people of this great land and the idea that people can get along and break bread together.
There was talk of making Thanksgiving a British holiday too, we have Black Friday sales but Thanksgiving seemed like a odd thing to bring overhere
My husband is British and he had his first Thanksgiving while we were dating. Every person who did not have family was invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, if you cant get there because you we sick or unable to walk , free ambulance service will pick you up and take you to where you need to go. My family had several people who are not family members come and they dined like kings and queens, my family are great cooks. They left with never to be seen tupperware containers full of everything you can think of.
Thanksgiving is a reminder to be thankful for what you have and to be kind and generous towards others.
Correction, Thanksgiving is always on the 4th Thursday of November.
I'm thankful our thanksgiving is actually around harvest time, ie October. A thanksgiving this near to Christmas? When everyone flies home to be with family, even though they will see them in a month? That's insane!
We Americans have no problem with it. Don't compete with Halloween 🎃...
The first Thanksgiving actually took place two years earlier at a plantation named Berkeley Hundred (hundred was the olden name for what would become plantations). This hundred is located in Charles Cittie (City) County, VA. They celebrated this first Thanksgiving when the original workers on the hundred arrived to Virginia from England in 1619.
Me and my cat love to feast on thanksgiving. Turkey and mashed potatoes are my favorites. Also as a family tradition my family watched thanksgiving Macy's parade and the Dog Show afterwards
*Not all of us are obsessed with taking credit for absolutely everything.*
I like your videos a lot, keep up the amazing work!
My mother's Apple Crumble is my favorite part of Thanksgiving!
Actually, the first official Thanksgiving was held in Virginia, at Berkley Plantation (called Berkley Hundred at that time) on December 4, 1619, 2 years earlier than the Pilgrims. It was Sarah Josepha Hale who led the campaign to have the Pilgrim's Thanksgiving named as the first.
Anybody who has looked at history a little would realize that a lot of the recipes used in that first feast would have come from England. Looking at English recipes from the time period would have been a great addition to this video.
Thank you, Kate! You are magnificent! Happy Thanksgiving to you!!!
+Sophia Sweet reply, but they do not celebrate the holiday called "Thanksgiving" in Britain. Although I'm sure they give thanks.
Favorite part of Thanksgiving??? My Wife and I and her mom and dad we all pitch in and cook a huge dinner for the four of us. Then in the afternoon (while the turkey slow cooks on the smoker) Dad and I go duck hunting until sunset. Then stuff ourselves silly, and watching football, followed by a tradition my wife and I started 20 years ago- Watching "A Christmas Story" in the evening with her mom and dad- thus kicking off our holiday season:-)
Kate Arnell just gets better and better and better looking with each new episode. Her husband is one lucky soul.
The new world still was relatively new, I mean, knowing and exploring the same continents for thousands of years? Heck, it still IS relatively new, and it's cultures young.
I really enjoyed this video!
This video is completely based on that QI Episode , isn't it?
I was thinking that :p
Was it the whole episode or just a segment? I'm hoping the latter because have an entire episode of a British TV show all about an American holiday sounds a little bit obsessive. (I know us Americans are just pure entertainment to you Britons, but still …)
A great concise history. Well done~!
Thanksgiving is a lovely holiday--not in terms of its origins so much as what it is. It's simply a day to gather with family and friends and give thanks for...whatever. It's a holiday that just about everyone in the US shares--and it's kind of cool to think that most people in the country, even if there are some variations, are all putting the same meal on the table, including turkey, stuffing, white potatoes, sweet potatoes, cranberry sauce, and pumpkin pie. It's also one of the least commercial holidays, because all people buy for it is food. Love Thanksgiving.
+PerthTowne Don't forget our Hispanic buddies, who cook tamales! And our Italian friends, who cook lasagna. And regional differences, like in the South, where we include collard greens and black-eye peas. It's cool how every ethnic group puts their own spin on it.
Rainy Day Absolutely! That's why I wrote, even if there are some variations. Everyone's got the basic turkey, cranberry, and so on. But I think most ethnic groups add a dish or a few that put their own spin on it. :)
Nowadays it's becoming more and more commercialized as retail stores open earlier and earlier on Thanksgiving instead of at least waiting until midnight to start Black Friday sales. This past year, places like Target and Walmart started their sales at 6pm on Thursday, which is prime Thanksgiving dinner time. I'm afraid the good old days of a calm holiday are gone.
+PerthTowne Turkey industry likes Thanksgiving I'm sure. The best time to buy turkey is after thanksgiving when they're trying to get rid of the extras that didn't sell :)
Ben L I have no doubt that the "Turkey industry" does well at Thanksgiving. But that doesn't sully the beautify of the holiday.
My favourite thing about Thanksgiving - being an Aussie and able to ignore it and the hype that goes with it.
My favorite part of Thanksgiving is..... having Kate tell me all about it!!!!!
I learned more about Thanksgiving from this video than I ever did from school.
+JacksG13 Except that what you learned is the accepted propaganda.
I love watching Anglophenia. Kate gives such great UK info. I'm a yank married to a brit who knows nothing at all about his country's history. Love to wind him up with what I learn LOL...Thanks Kate :)
Btw, Britain is not a country. It is made up of 3 countries - England, Scotland and Wales 😊 you're welcome.
+RedPanda525 Thanks I welcome correct info as my husband refers to GB as a country. See what I mean lol ?
+RedPanda525 The UK is a country of countries and many people still identify as 'British', so I'd disagree with you on that.
The "Pilgrims" arrived at the Plymouth Colony in 1620 and had their "Thanksgiving" in 1621. And this is called the First Thanksgiving. Never mind the fact that there is a documented Day of Thanksgiving in Virginia at the Berkley Hundred in 1619. And while not documented there probably were days of thanksgiving on Roanoke Island in 1585 before the colony disappeared and at Jamestown Colony in 1607; there was surely a celebration of thanksgiving when , in 1610, Thomas West, Baron De La Warr, new governor of Virginia re supplied Jamestown Colony after the Starving Time.
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Thanksgiving falls on my birthday every four years. I love turkey and pumpkin pie! Favourite holiday!!!
I love Thanksgiving. I’m in the southern portion of the US where there is a “stuffing vs dressing war.” Dressing is essentially a modest soufflé made from the savory cornbread stuffing to which eggs and milk are added, then baked. To keep the peace, I stuff the Turkey with the drier seasoned cornbread crumbs (don’t worry - it moistens beautifully inside the juicy bird. The purpose of stuffing is to maintain the turkey’s shape. The remaining seasoned cornbread gets the beaten eggs and milk as stated earlier. Both are divine. Mashed potatoes and vegetable sides are served, plus yeast rolls hot from the oven. Don’t forget the gravy! And the homemade cranberry sauce. In our family, we have pecan pie and apple pie, scratch-made. If someone pleads in advance I can be called upon to make a pumpkin pie as well.
The Mayflower also contained among its passengers no fewer than 12 of my ancestors.
that's pretty cool. apparently a lot were from Scrooby, which is not too far from where I am. Greetings! haha
"Sole Searching" Totally made my day XD
My ancestor came to the US years before the pilgrims and he was one of the first to settle in Jamestown Va.
Squanto's story is MUCH more interesting than the common story of the Dessenter/seperatists that came to the future US, almost 2 decades AFTER the Virginians.
A lot of the pilgrim prose was New Englanders trying to grab a historic center stage, and after the US Civil War, most Jamestown references were played down, liabled or written out of US history for children.
Thanks for talking turkey about the history of Thanksgiving.
In England we have harvest festival. It's been going as long as i remember, and that's nearly half a century.
The first Thanksgiving was celebrated and codified in Virginia in 1619 at Berkeley Hundred by colonists arriving aboard the ship Margaret. The Plymouth version of the story became popularized during the American Civil War because "Yankees" couldn't bring themselves to celebrate what was essentially a Southern holiday.
what a fantastic video! very good job!
dammmit she is gorgeous
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Could you do another video on English food or tea? Or maybe festivals?
+Charles Wagner Or maybe explain the rules of Cricket?
+potkas7 I don't think that could be addressed in a video of less than six hours.;)
+potkas7 Laws of cricket!
+potkas7 Stephen Fry narrates a bunch of videos on the laws if you want to have a look.
+potkas7 you really should be asking that to an Indian
Another fun fact about Thanksgiving. The Macy's parade was originally promoted as Macy's Christmas Parade, but because they kept having it earlier to get more shoppers into the holiday buying spirit, it eventually became a Thanksgiving tradition. Hence, the reason the finale of the parade is the arrival of Santa Claus.
one of the funniest things i learned in my us history class was that nobody actually knows when this "first thanksgiving" took place so they just said "last thursday of november". also learned they didnt even eat things like turkey and pumpkin pie. one of the things that was supposedly at the dinner table, was eel ??? lol
NICE LITTLE HISTORY LESSON. YOU REALLY DID YOUR RESEARCH THERE. THANKS VERY MUCH . . . .FROM A BOSTONIAN - A FEW MILES NORTH OF PLYMOUTH, MASS. =)
Your lipstick is perfect! Would you mind sharing what it is?And thanks for a very informative video!
Lincoln pushed back the day because the North was losing the in Civil War. Lincoln gave his Gettysburg Address November 19th 1863 and they did have a victory the Battle of Missionary Ridge and he called for a National Day of Prayer and Thanksgiving on the 26th.
you did a great job!!! Especially about squanto. However, you forgot to mention Washington's Thanksgiving proclamation of 1789.
Her name was Sarah Josepha Hale, and she is played by Michael Palin in this painting.
that is really quite an accurate summation of the holiday. not many Americans know it.
I have actually toured New England (Massachusetts to Maine) and been to Plymouth. Plymouth Rock, is NOT in Massachusetts Bay, but landlocked on a beach, surrounded by a shrine. In the 1970s, there was a lot of consternation because tourists were chipping off bits as souvenirs. So, if the Pilgrims had landed on Plymouth Rock, their ship would have run aground unless the configuration of the bay was vastly different in 1620 than it is today (which is possible).
All I can think about is the Native Americans being murdered after all they did to help the Europeans. Smh.
+Des The Puritans who landed stole corn from American Indian villages. I believe it's how they survived. None of them knew how to farm, not that that's an excuse.
+Des Also, I read in one account that the Puritans had just slaughtered a village of American Indians, probably to steal their corn and other foodstuffs, and that's what they "gave thanks" for.
Oh, please read a damn history book. The pilgrims did not just go around murdering Indians and taking their land. They weren't stupid and they weren't evil. They understood diplomacy and wanted to make allies of the local tribes. The first colonists and the Wampanoag got along perfectly well. The land they built their home on had been the childhood home of Tisquantum, but it had been abandoned when disease spread through the area before the colonists arrived. They didn't have to steal that land, Massasoit gave them permission to settle there. They did not kill any natives until much later when Metacomet and his people started murdering colonists. They were at war with each other after that. This modern narrative where the Pilgrims were evil racists and the Indians were gentle harmless victims is a bunch of baloney. It was nowhere near being that black and white
Read the book by William Bradford 'Of Plymouth Plantation'.
Native Americans murdered each other...
the pilgrims actually had "thanksgiving" a lot,it was one of the quirks shall we say. everyone survived the winter? thanksgiving. Mary got pregnant?thanksgiving. The baby lived? thanksgiving. So the thanksgiving we all celebrate is just the first one with the natives.
NO pumpkin pie - there were no ovens - thus, no way to bake.
Thanks for giving this info!
Actually, in 1942, Congress set Thanksgiving to the 4th Thursday in November. It was the last Thursday from 1864 to 1937. President Roosevelt moved it up 1 week in 1938 then again in 1939 and 1940. But many states, like Massachusetts, refused to observe Roosevelt's date and celebrated on the original date. Thus prompting Congress to set the day permanently to the 4th Thursday.
i love how when people are exiled from england to 'Holland' that whatever they do from there on is still 'english' or 'british' history. gotta always keep their hand in the pot somehow and take credit for most things that have happened in the world lol
add English subtitles, that would be helpful for people who are still learning 😊😊😊 great vid btw
+ThePiciaks If you press the subtitles button it will give you english subtitles
It would be awesome if you add english subtitles more often:)
Thankyou! I'd like to point out that Lincoln made thanksgiving as a morale booster for the bedraggled soldiers. Also, thanks giving was changed from the last thurs. in Nov. to the 4th Thursday inWW2 or right after...Why?
Point of fact: Thanksgiving is always observed on the FOURTH Thursday in November, which is not always the last Thursday. 2012 and 2017 are examples of five-Thursday Novembers.
+timharrod Why Thursday, though, do you know? Just to have a holiday that allows to skip Friday too?
+Tairneanach Yep, pretty much. I was just saying to my wife the other day, "We should have more holidays on Thursday!"
+timharrod I'm glad you noticed that error, too. Kate mentioned that it was celebrated on the fourth Thursday only during the Depression, but in fact that is when it was changed from the last to the fourth Thursday (yes, to allow more time for Christmas shopping) and has been way that ever since.
2:44 My favorite part was to learn about that guy who came over on the Mayflower who had an insatiable shoe fetish! I can totally relate! I travel the same way!!
thanks folks. I love harvest time and the smell of fall in the air and my air tight burning in my kitchen with the feasts cooking. ;-) I was always wondering. I am From Nova Scotia and Snow is unpredictable in the Maritime provinces that's for sure. :-)
unless there were multiple hatters you mentioned my ancestor Degory Priest
If they wanted to set up a hat market, they would have had loads of hatters to encourage competition and innovation.
+Anglophenia oh, it's not the last Thursday of November, but the 4th Thursday in November. (There's a rare occasion where there are 5 Thursdays in Nov, but it would still be celebrated on the 4th Thursday.)
I've recently been fascinated by what the Pilgrims would have eaten. The Indians brought deer meat with them, about five of them since they weren't sure that the Pilgrims would have enough, and they didn't have any bakeries so they would have had pies or stuffing. One other major thing was Thanksgiving is a misnomer. If it was a genuine thanksgiving they would be inviting the Indians and the Indians wouldn't have wanted to come because a genuine thanksgiving is really praying and fasting and not feasting as was done with the first Thanksgiving. Supposedly the feast was based around the Feast of the Tabernacles, which was actually Old Testament inspired.
Excellent! Kate, I'm heading on my maiden voyage to London next week. Very excited. I'll try to pronounce Leicester correctly.. Any suggestions where I could enjoy a British Thanksgiving? Or a warm pint? I'll be staying near Hyde Park
+Rob B White Horse, Parson's Green.
Leicester's easy - Lester.
Now try Marylebone :)
+Debbie Lough excellent thank you! Anyone care to meet up?
2:55 She's so adorable with her jokes.
Thanksgiving Day comes from the celebration after the Spanish Armada failed to conquer England in 1588. It was celebrated in November, a week or 10 days after Queen Elizabeth I's Accession Day.
I've read different stories about what killed so much of the native population. Some say it was Hepatitis A, from sharing food and drink out of the same vessels. There was a fight between English and French fishing ships on the coast of Maine. The French won and left the English on shore. Within a few years, 90% of the local native population was dead, and some of those were able to speak English.
In New Jersey, in the 1970's and 80's, local TV played King Kong and Godzilla movies all weekend.
Asians were actually the first "Pilgrims" to arrive in the New World. The American Indians who are descendants of Asian hunters from Siberia migrated to the Americas over 40,000 years ago. Also, the first modern Asians to arrive in the Americas were Filipino men from the Philippines who worked as sailors and navigators. They crossed the Pacific Ocean on galleons and landed on Morro Bay, California in 1587 -- several decades before the European Pilgrims arrived.
I don't even care what the backstory is . . . just have my food done before 1.lol
We need more videos.
Actually, Thanksgiving has been celebrated on the 4th Thursday of November since the Depression. Most years this is also the last Thursday, but every few years, the 29th or the 30th falls on a Thursday, making it the 5th Thursday. It's still the 4th Thursday that Thanksgiving is celebrated.
I don't know about the Chinese, however Canada has it's French and English heritages to start our Thanksgiving. Ours is in October for harvest time.
Thanksgiving in Canada = 2nd Monday in October. It falls on the same day as Columbus Day in the US, although they most certainly do not share anything in common.
Charlie Brown already taught me all of this...
Squanto's determination...!
Love listening to her
Squanto got his revenge by inventing snipe hunting.
Do British Sports vs American Sports
+Kevin R ....and concentrate on the differences between Rugby and American football, and Cricket and Baseball. (and what about these new 'walking' sports: walking rugby, basketball, etc)
I always thought of America as basketball, UK as futball. Apparently all the USA only sports are more popular though.
+Lev Myshkin Basketball isn't very popular in the US. The most popular sport by far is (American) football and the second most popular depends on what state you're in, which teams are winning, what season it is etc.
Funny how basketball is the one of them that is popular abroad, I assumed it would be an area of national pride.
+Lev Myshkin It is, it's just not as popular as baseball and football. It's still extremely popular. I'm not sure what he's talking about.
You have the best hair ever
on a side note mary had a little lamb was the first song (or speech) recorded (atleast in america) by Thomas Edison.
It really makes me wonder why we were taught that Columbus discovered America especially if Squanto made a round trip.
I come from a big family. When I was a boy the Turkey must have been 25....35.....657 pounds or more.. My mother would have to wake up before dawn on St Patrick's Day to get the turkey in the oven on time. and we always had creamed onions... because grandma always had creamed onions... like Squanto did. and then the football games... real football. not the mamby-pamby soccer stuff the play in For'n Parts.
Ah! You must be referring to the pass time that we refer to as "American Hand Egg." This is a derivative of Rugby (though it has evolved a lot. In Rugby Union in Britain we use the 'Scrum' where as American and Canada took the idea of 'Downs'. Also... you pass the ball forward. I don't even!) And in turn Rugby was a derivative of football, or this soccer nonsense as you call it... though to be fair it was all pretty much just called football originally, so what do I know?
ChromeDrakeGaming well, if you are trying to get to the goal and don't pass the ball forward..... then you aren't doing yourself any favors now are you? ;-) (don;t even start with the off sides rule in soccer AKA "football" in For'in Parts)
Just... say the Netherlands from the beginning. Not Holland. Holland are just 2 provinces. :
+Badzeep I agree. As a citizen of the United Kingdom I wish people would call it the UK rather Great Britain or Britain. Even worse is calling the whole of the UK 'England'! I am sure Anglophenia has covered this. I still refer to England, Scotland, etc, but only when referring to that particular part of the UK.
+Badzeep They lived in Amsterdam and Leiden, though. So, yeah, they were in Holland.
Bas Steeman We all know she meant the Netherlands. Else they would've gotten an image of the two provinces instead of the Netherlands with the national flag.
AndrewofWare I can tell you that (unfortunately) a lot of the Dutch people mean England when they talk about the UK. It's a shame Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland are usually forgotten.
+Badzeep I don't think she was looking at that picture when she said it. You can say whoever did the graphics is wrong, but what she's saying is factually correct. The Netherlands was just a confederation of provinces at this point in time, each with their own government.
Bas Steeman sorry, I should've said Anglophenia, not specifically the host.
"Although some might say that the hat wore them"😂😂👍
Did Kate say the passengers of the Mayflower brought a "Complete History of Turkey"?
Great video :D