Thank you absolutely KP.. The conversation is getting to quite a different [intellectual] level.. UNITY..! [of all the Luos (Peoples)].. will happen (I believe that).. between ALL the different Luo groups in the various regions of Africa (East.. Central.. and beyond..).. It is absolutely possible.. starting with creation of specific [small-scale] RECORD/DOCUMENTATION (museum-like) CENTRES.. in specific locations in the different regions.. Eventually.. with time.. these centres will be expanded into much bigger institutions.. There are no more incremental migratory movements today.. So.. buildings (we live in now).. have necessarily to be in form of today's [modern] "permanent" design and structure.. of concrete (sand and cement).. and [holding/supporting] steel parts (pillar and beams).. (to protect against dangerous situations of fires and excessive floods..) Deliberately too..! We have to build (within the compound) replicas of the original traditional grass-thatched houses (huts).. to demonstrate and protect our [original] NATURAL LUO IDENTITY.. So exciting..!! Erokamano.. Apwoyo.. Good health to the team...
@@KPtravels001 KP erokamano.. amot[h]'i.. an [a]tye [ma] ber.. This (my) particular comment should have come under the conversation (interview) you had with our wonderful.. very resourceful and truly knowledgeable brother.. journalist Oc[hi]eng Okoth Olunga.. (I think it got located wrongly because when I finished typing and pressed "send" arrow it was this other video playing in the background..) Ochieng (Oceng) is really amazing.. I admire his genuineness and wealth of knowledge.. Erokamano.. Pwoc ma dwong.. Good health...
KP. This is hard for a feminist but l still love our culture. In any case very warm presentation. Luo girl child is these days held in very high regard😊
Hi "greenhouse9833".. It would always be very appropriate for every genuine Luo participant to give his/her real Luo name[s].. The conversation is about Luo cultural history and identity.. The "idea"/talks of/about "girl child".. "femininist".. is clearly not part of the Luo history.. (you know it yourself).. It's the same old "western" mentality from colonial times.. that "they" ("the west") have the (self-given) right to "teach" all other native peoples (wherever they are on earth) how to treat and educate their female children.. and always using the "UN".. "international" whatever.. to assert their claim and intrude into other cultures.. (By the way.. do we Luo Peoples intrude into their (western) cultural ways (if at all they have any).. or in the way they take care of the families.. children..?? Remember.. to themselves (in their minds) they are "superior" to all other native peoples.. whom they consider extremely poor.. mulnourished.. backward.. etc.. ) I'm very certain we (Luo Peoples) have always been.. and continue to be.. wholly competent and responsible for the welfare of our families.. and the children.. both boys and girls.. Thank you.. and stay well..
@@KPtravels001 Morden world. The new luo age girl, is these days used to being at the top table and leading in decisions making. Let's just say it's complicated. Still can't allow that to cloud our beautiful culture and history. Russell group university degrees are just that. Morden era.
@@greenhouse9833 some of these modern era decisions need personal reflections. For example, as a girl would you prefer to lead or the husband to lead? Whatever works for the two of you. But I feel the moment the woman leads she automatically loses interest in the husband. It's nature.
@@KPtravels001 a relationship is almost like a government of it's own. One person cannot lead in everything. Physically the Lion is always king, he guides and protect his Lioness and cubs usually from any form of physical danger. Psychologically the Lioness is king, she protects most aspects of family wellbeing and happiness, without which the family could fall apart. Happy head of government Happy citizens. The rest falls into place, otherwise the Lion is in danger of finding other Lionesses to add to the homestead. In any case I am very happy with our history and historical practices In the Morden era very few men would want to exclude a brilliant intelligent women from being their equal partners. It would be a big mistake. Life is hard enough without a whole burden put on one person just because he happens to have been born male.
I claim Kenyan Luo is the broadest of the Luo dialects as it has words from the other groups. Jo' moro in Kenyan Luo translates to "OTHER people", while Jo' moko translates to "SOME people" in Kenyan Luo.
I know, the luo of Kenya came in 3 groups, joka Owiny, Joka Omollo and Joka Jok. However, of the three, it's the Owiny that came from the Jopadhola group. As such, they think of luo of Kenya as Joka Owiny ( and they refer to us as such). So they mostly called me that while I interacted with them and it was much easier to identify with it.
What defines LUO? Only blood/genes? Does cultural assimilation count? What defines an ethnic group? Culture or genes? If it's genes /blood only, then why would a child of a luo father and buganda mother be considered luo?
Interesting output but the choice of participants is rather poor. Most are incapable of critical thinking and can't reflect much apart from ordinary impulsive not common sense based response.
They speak different dialects so I think that is the reason the conversation won't flow as well as it would when speaking to someone that you understand 100%
Hi Opio Gregory(4453).. amot[h]'i.. (amoto in = amot'i (Acoli)) I am speaking very respectfully.. without any negative assumptions whatsoever.. I feel [strongly] that you are very badly wrong.. in describing the few of your fellow Japadhola Luo brothers.. uncles.. (KP interacted with.. interviewed..) the way you have done.. You seem "very highly" learned/educated.. judging from your use of words and expressions of English language.. - incapable of critical thinking.. - can't reflect much.. apart from.. - ordinary impulse.. not common sense based response.. (I do not know how to translate the (your) above statement into my Acoli (Luo) mother tongue.. and I'm quite learned and educated as well..) 1 VERY BIG common sense point I noted.. "Nyukka kal".. Fill your stomach with it in the morning.. and whole day.. without additional "solid meal" in middle of day.. you will be standing strong.." - 1 of the participants very coherently stated.. and 2..3.. others made some very knowledgeable remarks.. I believe they are very good critical thinkers.. reflective.. and have huge amounts of in-born (common) sense in their own native ways.. Erokamano.. Apwoyo.. stay well...
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These guys speak the closest Dholuo to our Kenyan Luo. I can comfortably converse with them in Luo and understand them almost 100%!
They don't speak the closest. They speak the exact same dialect as South Nyanza luo of Kenya. Exact same group divided by a border.
Padhola is so close to ungenya,alego, and gem luo dialect.
Not gem,I am from Gem yala ,that dialect is just like Alego and Ugenya
Interesting how we speak the same language, though culturally diverse ❤
Thank you absolutely KP..
The conversation is getting to quite a different [intellectual] level..
UNITY..! [of all the Luos (Peoples)].. will happen (I believe that).. between ALL the different Luo groups in the various regions of Africa (East.. Central.. and beyond..)..
It is absolutely possible.. starting with creation of specific [small-scale] RECORD/DOCUMENTATION (museum-like) CENTRES.. in specific locations in the different regions.. Eventually.. with time.. these centres will be expanded into much bigger institutions..
There are no more incremental migratory movements today..
So.. buildings (we live in now).. have necessarily to be in form of today's [modern] "permanent" design and structure.. of concrete (sand and cement).. and [holding/supporting] steel parts (pillar and beams).. (to protect against dangerous situations of fires and excessive floods..)
Deliberately too..! We have to build (within the compound) replicas of the original traditional grass-thatched houses (huts).. to demonstrate and protect our [original] NATURAL LUO IDENTITY..
So exciting..!! Erokamano.. Apwoyo..
Good health to the team...
Apwoyo matek omera. The more I look the more everything becomes clear and possible. Wan acel (achiel).
@@KPtravels001
KP erokamano.. amot[h]'i.. an [a]tye [ma] ber..
This (my) particular comment should have come under the conversation (interview) you had with our wonderful.. very resourceful and truly knowledgeable brother.. journalist Oc[hi]eng Okoth Olunga.. (I think it got located wrongly because when I finished typing and pressed "send" arrow it was this other video playing in the background..)
Ochieng (Oceng) is really amazing.. I admire his genuineness and wealth of knowledge..
Erokamano.. Pwoc ma dwong..
Good health...
For sure i have enjoyed it much love luo people and luo to the world
I'm happy you did enjoy. Kindly help me share it widely with your friends and family. I need more luos here.
Jo chamo rech, rabuon akeyo kuon the duma kuon kal, omena, bel 😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤
Otek! ekaka ichamo Akeyo!
Good job am how
Thank you Ochiko. I'm happy you like it.
KP. This is hard for a feminist but l still love our culture. In any case very warm presentation. Luo girl child is these days held in very high regard😊
Why is it hard for a feminist? 😅😅
Hi "greenhouse9833"..
It would always be very appropriate for every genuine Luo participant to give his/her real Luo name[s]..
The conversation is about Luo cultural history and identity..
The "idea"/talks of/about "girl child".. "femininist".. is clearly not part of the Luo history.. (you know it yourself).. It's the same old "western" mentality from colonial times.. that "they" ("the west") have the (self-given) right to "teach" all other native peoples (wherever they are on earth) how to treat and educate their female children.. and always using the "UN".. "international" whatever.. to assert their claim and intrude into other cultures..
(By the way.. do we Luo Peoples intrude into their (western) cultural ways (if at all they have any).. or in the way they take care of the families.. children..??
Remember.. to themselves (in their minds) they are "superior" to all other native peoples.. whom they consider extremely poor.. mulnourished.. backward.. etc.. )
I'm very certain we (Luo Peoples) have always been.. and continue to be.. wholly competent and responsible for the welfare of our families.. and the children.. both boys and girls..
Thank you.. and stay well..
@@KPtravels001 Morden world. The new luo age girl, is these days used to being at the top table and leading in decisions making. Let's just say it's complicated. Still can't allow that to cloud our beautiful culture and history. Russell group university degrees are just that. Morden era.
@@greenhouse9833 some of these modern era decisions need personal reflections. For example, as a girl would you prefer to lead or the husband to lead? Whatever works for the two of you. But I feel the moment the woman leads she automatically loses interest in the husband. It's nature.
@@KPtravels001 a relationship is almost like a government of it's own. One person cannot lead in everything. Physically the Lion is always king, he guides and protect his Lioness and cubs usually from any form of physical danger. Psychologically the Lioness is king, she protects most aspects of family wellbeing and happiness, without which the family could fall apart. Happy head of government Happy citizens. The rest falls into place, otherwise the Lion is in danger of finding other Lionesses to add to the homestead. In any case I am very happy with our history and historical practices
In the Morden era very few men would want to exclude a brilliant intelligent women from being their equal partners. It would be a big mistake. Life is hard enough without a whole burden put on one person just because he happens to have been born male.
Thanks for your live update
My pleasure. Share widely with friends and family. I need more luos on board.
I totally understand him
Because it's the same language 😅
The Jopadhola men build within their father's land. They usually don't move away.
Not even when you eventually have grown sons who need to build their houses as well?
This was so interesting ja homabay 👏👏👏👏
❤
I am from padhola but luo in homabay and oyugis is more of dhopadhola.......
@@oketchostephen5222 exactly
Iwinjo kama giwacho ni gichamo Akeyo?
Mien/teko/jiny= energy
I have subscribed - very insightful
Thank you so much. Welcome onboard.
Luo padhola wacho dholuo ka JAMWA Jaluo ma KENYA wacho dholuo MABER kata TANZANIA wacho dholuo machalo kod ma Kenya.
Kenya Luo is the fake one.. original Luos are Padhola ..im a Kenyan
This required older men.Even us from Gem we say tuk when somebody settles in a new place.Very similar to Jopadhola.
I think I'm ignorant about some vocabulary in central Nyanza
Tuk is right, though in Luo Kenya can also mean someone who already had a home moving and making another home else where ie ng'ane otuk.
Bro luo culture first born build in right hand but the door doesn't face the gate it only fathers house that face the gate
Kogot this conversation was too deep and needed older men than these
The older folks were not there.
They sound like luo of alego and ugenya
Yes, because luo of Alego are literally part of them. Luo of Alego came from them.
Padhola and Luo of Ugenya and Alego are the same
Mikayi,first wife,Nyachira 2nd wife, reru third wife...... Kenyan Luo
Akeyo en Dek
..interesting 97% Luos
Hahahaha luo wan achiel (acel). Behind the scenes are even better when I talk to people in my luo of Kenya and they reply in DhoPadhola
Jomoro = jomoko 😊
Hahaha
I claim Kenyan Luo is the broadest of the Luo dialects as it has words from the other groups. Jo' moro in Kenyan Luo translates to "OTHER people", while Jo' moko translates to "SOME people" in Kenyan Luo.
Omera Ogot never say again ni in ja kowiny. It at all you’re from Karachuonyo, then in JakaJok. Kowiny , mostly gin Ugenya/ Uholo.
I know, the luo of Kenya came in 3 groups, joka Owiny, Joka Omollo and Joka Jok. However, of the three, it's the Owiny that came from the Jopadhola group. As such, they think of luo of Kenya as Joka Owiny ( and they refer to us as such). So they mostly called me that while I interacted with them and it was much easier to identify with it.
Everytime I said, "I'm luo of Kenya " they replied "oooh jaka Owiny has come back home to see us"
You must be joking Kumam, Langi are not JoLuo. They are Ateker. Langi Kumam gin jo Ateker pe jo Luo/Lwo
Apart from Kuman, whose language is about half Kuman and Ateso or Ateker, the Langi predominantly speak a Luo dialect.
What defines LUO? Only blood/genes? Does cultural assimilation count? What defines an ethnic group? Culture or genes? If it's genes /blood only, then why would a child of a luo father and buganda mother be considered luo?
@@apollo6154 not a proper Luo/Lwo dialect, no. They speak mixtures of broken dialects plus original Ateker words.
Interesting output but the choice of participants is rather poor. Most are incapable of critical thinking and can't reflect much apart from ordinary impulsive not common sense based response.
They speak different dialects so I think that is the reason the conversation won't flow as well as it would when speaking to someone that you understand 100%
Hi Opio Gregory(4453).. amot[h]'i.. (amoto in = amot'i (Acoli))
I am speaking very respectfully.. without any negative assumptions whatsoever..
I feel [strongly] that you are very badly wrong.. in describing the few of your fellow Japadhola Luo brothers.. uncles.. (KP interacted with.. interviewed..) the way you have done..
You seem "very highly" learned/educated.. judging from your use of words and expressions of English language..
- incapable of critical thinking..
- can't reflect much.. apart from..
- ordinary impulse.. not common sense based response..
(I do not know how to translate the (your) above statement into my Acoli (Luo) mother tongue.. and I'm quite learned and educated as well..)
1 VERY BIG common sense point I noted..
"Nyukka kal".. Fill your stomach with it in the morning.. and whole day.. without additional "solid meal" in middle of day.. you will be standing strong.." - 1 of the participants very coherently stated.. and 2..3.. others made some very knowledgeable remarks..
I believe they are very good critical thinkers.. reflective.. and have huge amounts of in-born (common) sense in their own native ways..
Erokamano.. Apwoyo.. stay well...
But don't you think the output was a bit outstanding bearing in mind the folks weren't elderly?