It's NATIONAL TRUST POLICY You Can't Fly Your Drone Here - YES I CAN - DJI Mini 3
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- A few days ago I phoned Clumber Park for permission to fly my drone there, and I was given a flat refusal.
So I decided to have a look on the map and it turns out that the road that runs through the centre of the park is a public highway, and you know what that means, it means that as long as I am stood on the road I am on public property and I can fly my drone.
The managment at Clumber park didn't agree with me and insisted that I moved on. I don't know how the think the have the right to tell someone on a public highway to move, but that's the National Trust for you.
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Mate, you absolutely took him apart, rebuilt him, and dismantled him again! Well done, Sir.
You’ve talked with some awfully uninformed people before but this guy takes the cake
Been saying if tor a while now. The heavy-hitter drone auditors should meet once a year and award a prize for the deepest BS.....
@@4catsnow But it's a bottomless abyss. How will they ever measure it?
@@majorlaff8682 That's why you gotta bring in the experts.. they know what to look for..and how to put on their hip boots before they talk to people like this..
Just remind me, what law is there against incidental inclusion of children or "vulnerable persons" ?
Believing their policies apply to everyone in public is just next level stupidity
OMG he really doesn't understand plain English but continues to argue in his ignorance
The level of arrogance shown by the National Trust is unbelievable and this guy gave a perfect demonstration.
Arrogance & ignorance!
Indeed. They make wild assertions about "lack of insurance" they assume "most" will have. It's ultimately a load of rubbish that is generated by people who are trying to say: 'you have the legal right to fly over our land but because we are very self-important and like pushing our weight around, we think we don't really have to respect those rights'. It seems to me the true reason for the false 'ban' is revealed by their drone 'policy' page image - a massive commercial filming platform that banshees the whole drone issue out of all proportion and shows they like making money out of drone footage.
The level of ignorance is the thing. These people, unlike cops who should by now know better, think like most people do: "You can't fly over my property", wrong as it is. And it is the National Trusts' policy to discourage it, for obvious reasons.
Until I started watching auditors, I didn't know either. But he does go on a bit, far past any sensible length of argument.
The national trust seem to think they have absolute power, their policy on their website is a violation of CAA rules and they don't seem to care.
Even when you email them (which I have) they try to make it sound illegal to fly over when it clearly is not so I can understand that their staff don't know any better as the Trust lies to them all.
I managed to get them to admit "It's true that we cannot control the overflight of our places from elsewhere" but they still claimed the statement on their website was correct (which says you can't fly over their land), so they even lie to themselves.
They recently changed what it says on their website - it used to say that you couldn’t fly over their land, but it now says that they don’t grant permission for private flying “from our land”. But obviously many of their staff don’t really understand or care about the difference.
@@matthewledbury6751 Well it's a start I guess.
@@ThatGoth It's a *very good* start!
Same as English heritage
@@simonphillips2575 I've flown English Heritage sites with no issues, their site says "The use of UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles) or drones is not permitted to take off or land at any English Heritage sites without prior approval." and to be fair I've never even seen staff at their sites.
He believed everything he was saying, he never had a clue of the law
And he had his pet ferret with him.
@@zog97xy he may as well have started counting the blades of grass behind him
I'm actually lost for words 😮 apart from unbelievable!
@@johnroberthines7811 the egghead believed it though ! 🤣🤣
He never referenced the law. He simply stated what the policy was of his employer and asked PJ politely to move on. He had no authority to make him move and he didn’t try to forcibly move him. He just asked politely and I thought he was very professional
If anybody does not want their location to be revealed through appearing in a picture, THEY should stay well away from places where lots of people are taking pictures.
He was just latching onto something emotive he thought would win the argument for that very reason. He went from 'people' to 'vulnerable people' and then on to the specific example of kids where it was important their location is hidden. Quite a journey!
'You are causing an obstruction parked here' Says the guy parking his van in the road...
@@dry_rat no rd markings & not his to deal with. Funded by gov
They don't want people parking on the road avoiding their fees.
I'd be far more concerned about vehicles driving through the park at 60mph!
hahaha
He can park on the side of the road as there is a public easement just for that purpose, that’s why the posts are set back from the road and not right on the edge.
This man is not a police officer or CAA official simply say no and ignore him.
He has absolutely no authority over anybody.
Yeah, but he's got a badge...
Ha ha ha ha
@@danielforde-pogson But he needs a Hi Vis to activate the badge lol
When wil people realise that 'policy' does not trump the law.
that is actually false when it comes to drones in the uk. the national trust ask people not to fly drones around or near their land (50 meters as stated in the caa guide lines). its also stated that if a piece of land has stated with signs or a public policy that can be read that drones are not to be flown then yeah... bro shouldnt be flying.
When will people learn that pushing laws will just get a knee jerk reaction restricting laws more then they already are. which spoiler actually effect people who want to just fly for fun.
I've just gone on their Google maps page and there's loads of photos of the public so his argument is invalid.
This ignorant jobsworth is a legend in his own lunchbox!
@@JamieW-o7b so a bit like most U.K. planning departments if you have tried to renovate a listed grade 2 of a wreck of a building, don’t renovate one as the stupid planning department never chips in with any cash to actually install a new roof, that just say employ a local thatcher and don’t use any metal nails, use hard oak beams and don’t cut down any oak trees- rather find old oak from somewhere 🤣🤣🤣🤣
National Trust reworded their policy in March 24: “As a landowner, the National Trust does not permit unauthorised drone operation from any of our land or properties”. Nothing about flying over in the new policy.
Correct but they worded it in a way most would think its not allowed and tgey deliberately did that.
Now correct me if am wrong . NT few years back stated on there web site that you CANT fly over our land TOAL from our land or pubic.. now they slightly altered it now saying they do not like to fly over there land .. that probably cos the. CAA rules on sub 250G drones . So if it unrestricted airspace and follow the drone code .. and take off on a public place .. and there no crowed or assembly of uninvolved people. And fly above 60 - 120m ( just example) that really NT can’t do anything about it ..
@@Exploringcornwall1 air space is non of their business. Need to apply to CAA yo b redded
@@josephthompson1318 I understand the law, just pointing out the change in policy that this NT bloke doesn’t seem to know about
@@kevinmulligan9055 the law was the land owner everything including the land everything down to hell and everything to the height of the heavens. It was expressed in law in Latin as expressed in Latin: ‘Cuius est solum, eius est usque ad coelum et ad inferos’. Which translated as means that land ownership extends up to the heavens and down to the centre of the Earth. The invention of flight changed this law in 1815 to allow for hot air ballooning.
You can't argue with the wearer of the...
"Lanyard of Self Importance"
Ha ha
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Gotta love the wee wise man with the beard he like Mr Miyagi he listens and he learns whilst his boss digs himself deeper and deeper into the bamboo 😂
Went to Clumber Park regularly with parents in the 1970s and parked on land off that pubic road without bother. Now the NT restrict these areas and have patrols. I'd encourage everyone who has a 249g drone to fly over. That guys reasoning sums the arrogance of this organisation funded by the public.
If you have taken the exam and got your registration then I believe you can fly a larger drone say a Phantom 3/4 in unrestricted airspace providing you comply with the flight regs ?
Damn good one PJ. Was that bloke daft in the head. I’m 75 now and a Yorkshire man living in the NE when I was younger been to Clumber park many times. Well done standing your ground
THE NT and NTS has tried for years to control photography by the public but only have authority if you are on their land. Aerial photo work even for commercial use cannot be banned. They are not able to get exemption.They fail to explain to staff and put them in conflict which is failing a duty of care.Especially as many are well meaning volunteers.
That fool is completely deluded, he is giving directives to someone on a public highway.
My family left in excess of 230 acres to the NT for the public to enjoy NOT for the NT to dictate how the public enjoy it ! Ridiculous uneducated charity staff.
They're not uneducated. It actually specifies on the NT website that unauthorised drone flying is not allowed on any of their properties. They're just following the guidelines.
@v8cool231 it doesn't say that, read carefully.
@@avocado71it actually says, "the national trust does not permit unauthorised drone operation from any of our land and properties...except by contractors commissioned by the national trust."
@7king8debs79 exactly. So no problem flying over their properties from a public place.
@@v8cool231 Speaking of uneducated....
What a complete muppet that guy was… you can’t film from 400ft but you can take pictures of kids from 6 ft away … ridiculous 😂😂😂
He said the magic word CONTROL!
It is NOT illegal to film children, decently.
Pity there are too many ignorant people about that don't know it isn't illegal to film children.
Making indecent images is.
Have you seen the DJ Audits video, where a Jeremy Kyle wannabe wailed about children being filmed.
@@KoshVorlon-xb3wq It's a bit more nuanced that that. But the worrying thing is there was a tangential suggestion that flying a drone where there are children (this varied from 'people' to 'children' to 'vulnerable children', is tantamount to acting with unlawful intent. That's the kind of unwarranted suggestion the NT should really have a word with this bloke about.
What a mess she was 🤣 screaming out her car etc her hard drive should be checked with them thoughts @KoshVorlon-xb3wq
@@KoshVorlon-xb3wq which one was that?
The bald one wanted to assert his "authority" and it irked him when you pointed out the real rules. The Quaker sensibly said nothing!
Defending your rights is not being stubborn. These guys need to realise that checking people's perceived power is a right and duty. He's out of his league and needs to get back in his box.
The guy in the high Vis is lapping it up.
@@HCMCDrives y would u 2ant yr right remove?
@@josephthompson1318 Huh?
He must be a plastic copper in his spare time, defending your rights in the eyes of the stasi is being awkward and obstructing them, so they can go for an arrest.
No chance with that dimwit who has more copspeak - he will have to escalate. 😭😭
If that's a threat to a member of the public, it may not go well for him. 😉
It's going to be wonderful when people finally realize the best way to deal with these "auditors" is to stand next to them blasting copyright music on your phone.
The National Trust have been an ever increasing disappointment. Another example of a bureaucratic corporation that has lost its way.
Their financial position is something that has necessitated a large number of compulsory redundancies. Younger generations are less likely to buy the line that old properties built with the proceeds of slavery are something to be celebrated, less so when the NT has been very resistant to telling that story. The older ones who like to think they live in such properties, yet don't, are dying off. Like all corporations becoming over-enthusiastic about money-making, the NT is creating a bad image of itself. It's had to climb down over 'banning' overflights because it isn't the legal position. Yet, we still see staff like this and a policy wording clearly still aimed at giving the impression of a ban.
The very reason I have never become a National Trust member
Me to had many a leaflet in my post, leaflets in magazine`s but no way would I subscribe to them ever.
@@terranceprice7006am sure they are devastated 😂😂
Ah well I am sure they will survive without you
@@RobertScroggie-tk2zj I’m sure they will, they have managed so far
I used to be a member, back when it was about safeguarding the national heritage. Unfortunately, they were infiltrated by political activists. Very sad.
I really don't like his accusation of anyone taking images with the possibility of children being recorded. I would be interested to hear his response to the same accusation.
The danger of parking on a public road while he is parked on the same road....
what makes companies and organisations think they are so special and important that they have a self appointed self given right to dictate to members of the public with their policy orders just because they created a few fictional rules to make themselves appear important it doesn't mean they have any legal credit.. I also have a policy with my rules in that case and its I will do just as i am doing because my policy is just as important as yours and my policy allows me to do it.
The national trust create these silly policies as they don't want to think you've had a freebee and seen something for nothing, they want you to pay to look at it.
RANT OVER.
Well done on keeping your cool. The guy was just grasping at straws to try to justify not "allowing" you to fly. They keep just going around in circles and can't seem to grasp the difference between their land, public land and airspace.
No privicy in public
There is in certain circumstances though.
I like the new format on the left tells a non drone flyer about the drone ,and tell the pompous national trust to off
Yes, cool format - is it a DJI update or something else? Hope you or someone can let me know please.
I have no idea how you remain so calm for so long when arguing with a brick wall.
Catweazle didn't say much, just stood there grinning at how foolish his boss was. 😂
.....😂👍
The wizard with the beard's head's fucking frazzled😅😂
It's Paul Whitehouse in character.....😂
Like a poor little garden gnome that's lost his little fishing rod😅
Pic of kids is not illegal
Yeah, me thinks madam doth protest too much if you know what I mean.
@@charliesilverman1132 is a line from the play Hamlet by William Shakespeare. It is spoken by Queen Gertrude
What a total wally! Like all NT staff and volunteers, they have an air of superiority.
Thats because they have to deal with such morons, that are called members of the public. I should know I was both Volunteer and staff, and had to deal with some right muppets.
There's only one muppet here im afraid and he's wearing a national trust t-shirt.@@v8cool231
Funny how he said you were causing an obstruction. He was parked just above you on the same side. He could have parked on grass. That entitled guy was clueless. Well done Pete 👍
All power to you. That was brilliantly done. I sold my drone because of people like that guy. I’m glad you stood up to him. 🙂👏👏
I was once a National Trust approved contractor, and once inside the inner-sanctum, back then I found the use of the word 'our' quite perplexing!
Many folks did seem to be quite institutionalized. I used to wonder, were they like this when they were recruited or is this how being a badged-volunteer twists you?
As many of their properties have their origins in the money made off slavery, you can break down their pomposity quite quickly by asking questions about precisely that. The volunteer guides (often elderly) will usually ignore it or become irritated. Very rarely will they openly discuss it in its true context. The NT is a master of glorifying the horrific and now they think they are drone lawmakers.
9:50 So he admits that he will call the police because PJ didn't move on after being ordered to do so. It's not a crime to ignore an order from a NT employee when not on NT property. Therefore that means the man has committed the crime of perverting the course of justice.
Full of bs I'm afraid....
' Unquestioned authority is the greatest enemy of truth' - Albert Einstein.
Albert said,"unthinking" not unquestioned,in that quote, but you were so right to use it. I think it works even more pointedly in this case
Woke woke woke National Trust!
i wish people would stop bandying about the woke word its not woke its just stupid
NT think they are the law outside their own jurisdiction.....😂
What does woke mean @wesyoung340
@@paulwright4104 it means anything he doesn't like
@@colinscott7478Well said. The ignorant use the word at the drop of a hat. They actually mean the opposite here, this is all about control & as you say stupidity 😂
The guy in the black T shirt (Matt) will never ever admit he has no right to deny you to fly your drone, he cannot give up even 1% of the "control" he lives for. He is far too indoctrinated in the NT ways.
This guy is seriously not very bright but of course has his middle class accent to fall back on
The man is seriously ignorant of the law and was making it up as he went along but I did not hear anything "middle class" about his accent.
Mat is a control freak talking to someone he can't control. Telling someone to move on from a public road is cheeky.
He got him to move though when he didn't have to move, so I'm afraid it was a failure from PJ.
Typical passive aggressive middle class lefty.
@@anthonyo.6084 I don't accept your point. He left because he had finished what he was doing, and Mat walked off first.
Wonder what middle management role Matt used to have?
@@anthonyo.6084 PJ was recovering the drone when the NT van arrived. He had, as he correctly said, finished. He wasn't yielding to pressure at all.
15:25 I wouldn't have said that I had finished, I would've put the drone up again.
The National Trust actually have bylaws in place regarding photography which shows this guy doesn’t have a clue as he’s not even aware of them. He would have tried to use them otherwise. Having said that these bylaws only apply to commercial photography on their land. I’ve personally filmed many videos on National Trust land with a big obvious camera rig and posted online yet never been confronted once.
Well within your rights and I think he realised that towards the end.
Great video, very well handled.
"Here is my reason, but you have destroyed the logic of that, but I am going to continue with the same line, because I can't follow logic."
Blackpool packed beach with 100s of kids & many cameras
Watch the height restriction regards crowded areas and distances plus safe operations site land take off.
Their policy doesn't override what the law permits
At the end of the day policy doesn’t override the law
End of conversation
He is wrong. The NT changed their wording from not flying over their properties to not taking off from their properties when they realised they do not own the airspace. This drone operator was quite within his rights and NT need to train their staff accordingly.
They have no idear of drone laws
Policy isn't law, you don't need their permission.
Why ask permission for a legal activity on public road?
He's not asking permission just informing them just in case they wonder why then interupt a drone pilot whilst operating which is a crime 😊
it was a failure from PJ.
nice to see you BACK P J AUDITS
He lost the argument, he left.
@@anthonyo.6084 How do you work that out?
These are the sorts of people who resulted in us being locked in our homes for almost 2 yrs
Spot on comment.
14:26......we have minors 😂😂😂what a slimy low blow he was itching to get something on you but clearly couldn't 😂😂
What a pointless man , wasting NT time 😂
The National Trust does NOT own our airspace and there is no expectation of privacy in a publicly accessible place. The fact that airspace is publicly accessible is a very key factor.
I would not be surprised if they try to ban all flights over their properties using privacy of vulnerable people as the reason, in which case they would need to ban ALL photography including dashcams.
This guy should be in politics, he knows nothing of what he's supposed to, dosen't get annoyed, constant grin on his face, very very polite, constantly refuses to see reason, uses children as an excuse (what about videos of politicians kissing kids?) to try and get his view accross, so in a nutshell "Talking bollocks"
I was part of a group of horse riders that rode from Sherwood to Clumber Park. On arriving at the house I enquired at the NT shop which was actually located in the converted STABLE BLOCK if it was possible to get a bucket of water for the horses. Cue arrival of a guy in a shirt with the logo Ranger who stated we should pay for a permit to ride through the park. He didn't seem to understand that highways and bridleways were freely available for riders. Eventually he went away in high dudgeon.
It is also national trust policy to rent out their land for illegal fox hunting
Terrible shameful
You're wrong.
Really, that’s disgusting if true.
no, wrong.
No, it isn't.
The National Trust will stop issuing licences for trail hunts on its land, the charity's board of trustees said.
Trail hunting is legal and sees dogs and riders follow an artificial scent along an agreed route. It differs from traditional fox hunts which are banned.
In 2020, the National Trust suspended trail licences after video emerged of a prominent huntsman advising how to use them for covert illegal fox hunts.
Source: BBC - National Trust bans trail hunting on its land
Published 25 November 2021
The charity said it had lost trust and confidence in the Masters of Foxhounds Association
By Jennifer Meierhans
20:39 The man doesn't seem to have ever used a camera. He seems to think that a parent of a child which has been included in a photo taken by another family can tell if the photo will be published and therefore say that they don't give permission. He is seriously stupid.
By the way that he was nodding, that old boy seemed to agree with you.
He was enjoying his boss struggling? :)
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He was about to fall asleep 😂
Hes ran out of material for his argument
Of all the "auditors" out there, I find PJ's voice the best as well as his hairstyle!
Why the fuck have they got a gnome wearing hi-vis? He's very life-like though isn't he!
It's Paul Whitehouse in character 😂
😆
Every word from PJ's mouth made absolute sense, while every word from the NT manager made no sense at all.
You were lucky PJ the bearded minder was itching to go hands on 😂
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Yes he didn’t look happy
😂😂😂😂
I thought beard was in deep thought and thoroughly inscrutable.
Wise man took in everything and enjoyed his boss making a fool of himself.
Great to see, that was one upset guy there because every time he said something you put him right, made me smile when he was going on about where you was parked and he had gone and parked right in front of you !!! cheers
This concluded on a nice friendly note at least! As ever 'great content' PJ, & respect!😊
I could hear the gears in that NT guy’s head whirling furiously as you tied his pettiness up in knots 😂! Great stuff PJ
Policy is just a personal preference of someone.
Nothing more.
20:22 if this is his argument dont pedos only photograph children for their personal use? Does that mean he is ok with that type of photography by people with nefarious intention but is against a law abiding drone photography at an altitude that restricts any identification or features? Very strange man.
It's the tangential suggestion of inappropriate image capture of children that is very troubling indeed. The NT should have nothing to do with this kind of wholly unjustified and inappropriate suggestion, however slight. PJ is a good man who highlights the ludicrous side of those given to revelling in tiny amounts of 'authority'.
Anyone can enter a NT property as a Member or Visitor and photograph anything---NT do not own the 'Airspace'--as you're aware--Why would they not want filming--they do QED Inventing rules&laws is not how the system works--How can anyone argue with a guy like this one--On&on goes his verbal nonsense! "Controlled Access" to a NT property-I never knew!
The terminology he uses in respect to ‘Controlled Access’ is actually correct. The question is the boundary of those controls. Even an NT Pay & Display Car Park in the middle of nowhere classes as ‘controlled access’. His problem was not understanding the control boundary :)
It's always useful - and revealing - to ask: 'what mischief of a camera, drone or otherwise, are they trying to address with their so-called policy?' It seems to me to be mostly about the public being able to undermine, as they see it, the money-spinning opportunity to the NT of commercial filming in and around their picturesque locations. I don't think it has much of anything to do with privacy concerns. Their clutching-at-straws wording of the policy is evidence of this. If you are out in public in a NT place, then you don't have any reasonable expectation of privacy in the manner this man is suggesting and, it has to be said, in a rather ugly manner.
@@MrMesosphericI think it's trying to invent laws--which is silly--
The amazing thing is the lengths the volunteers will go to to defend the people that make the rules of the National Trust even when they are wrong..
@johnsammonds Sounds like the American Home Owners
The guy in orange hi vis is laughing is ass off the whole time 😂
"If the drone that weighs the same as a bird falls out of the sky.... 😂"
Never seen any birds falling out of the sky .... 😂
Maybe NT-man never wondered why the fundamental control on drones is based on, er, mass.
There is no such thing as 'privacy' in a public place.
'Maybe I've missed something here.' Definitely an understatement.
I'm old enough to remember when Clumber Park was open 24/7, free and all the roads were passable and non of the commercial outlets existed.
The NT have abused the Park by turning it into a money machine. They introduced per car charging for parking then changed that to per person. They barricaded virtually all internal roads, closed all access roads other than from Limetree Avenue. Hardwick village, ford and weir can only be visited when the Park is open and the Lake south side car park is no longer accessible.
I'm a NT member but am disgusted with the way they have monetised a beautiful open space.
I'm sure that they hate that Limetree Avenue is not under their control I just hope that remains a public road
Well done for enforcing the legal rights of the drone flyer PJ and showing how ridiculous the NT ‘Policy’ rules are….👍
I’ve just ripped my national trust membership up
Was it a day pass or a yearly membership ?
@@captainfpv6775I did the same. I've just had my new renewal 😂
@@captainfpv6775clever😂😂
@Leroyy536
> I’ve just ripped my national trust membership up
Yeah, of course you have.
Nobody cares if you "permit it" Law abiding individuals are allowed to go about thier business within the law.
Good video PJ.... I've got a drone myself and not so long ago flew it over National Trust Land in the Lake District however taking off from a public spot. The amount of pushback I got from The National Trust staff was shocking ! Fortunately I know the Laws so pushed back. On another note the claim about you causing a hazard at the side of the public road might have been slightly understandable to a point until you panned the camera and their van was sat causing exactly the same so called hazard 😂
The van issue may or may not be right. But what is certain is that the NT staff had no right to enforce anything; it isn't their road, he's not a police office or other recognised traffic enforcement officer and so he is left with (a) asking politely and (b) calling the police. We all know very well that the police are now invariably well-versed in drone law and, as in this case, no breach of the law will have occurred.
They should be paying you to fly that drone and show such nice scenery, instead of arguing in an ignorant way. A very experienced operator too, but i expect you with your experience will have changed their policy. Well done Matt. Was that their Solicitor with the beard???
Open or paid is implied right of access.
Until it's withdrawn.....
@@69spook yp, so u leave slowly still filming
You don't have to pay to get, on foot, into Clumber Park ... only to park there!
It’s high time the National Trust get properly informed on what is the law regarding drone flights over property the own.
It’s like trying to teach a kindergarten class with these clowns.. lol
Keep it up 👍 Cheers from the USA ✌🏻
I have flown in this park. More than once. I was sat on a bench across the lake from the chapel. And a park ranger sat next to me. Asked me about the drone. Said it looked fun. And left.
The best type of ranger.
Great video pj 👍 that guy is an absolute sausage absolute clueless drip
A Company Policy does not trump the law👍
IT'S ABOUT SELLING PICTURES OF THEIR PROPERTIES FOR CALENDAR ECT. 😊
Yes, that's exactly the true reason for it all. Look at their drone 'policy' page - a massive commercial camera platform for filming (with the handy additional impact of making the lay public think all drones are this big and scary).
Yo, ecologist here who does drone mapping quite regularly for national trust and other protected/designated sites (Scotland and Ireland) . The reason they probably have a drone policy is two-fold:
1. The probably have signed up to a management plan for the habitats on their property, or have designated protected habitats to maintain. Part of that, especially woodlands and rough grassland will involve minimising disturbance on breeding birds. Drones and kites etc have proved to cause abandonment so it'll be part of the overall management to minimise disturbance between March and August, which will be set in legislation.
2. Knowing or unknowingly allowing above to happen is probably a breach of the wildlife order. Responsibility for that would end up at their feet and not, sadly, the irresponsible drone pilot.
I wondnt expect public facing staff to know the fine details of the legal management of the sites, this would be between upper management and competent authority (Natural England or whatever you English have). They are good guys and have plenty to be doing, but they probably just have heard drones are a no no and its policy. In short as a drone pilot if the NT staff said they had a policy on this site about drones, I'd assume above and check with management if its a wildlife order issue, if so Id do the work outside of bird breeding season. As far as Im aware this is part of the drone licence test, or used to be.
Yawn.....
Well it's a lot of words. But it doesn't deal with the simple fact that it is not unlawful to overfly airspace where there are no CAA-defined restrictions. If there are CAA-restrictions, pilots of drones will comply and only a tiny handful of idiots might not - a matter for the police and CAA, not the NT or their staff/volunteers. The degree to which private organisations abuse their position in trying to claim to the contrary is appalling and must be stopped. You have no knowledge whatsoever about aviation laws, I'm afraid.
@@MrMesospheric
> Well it's a lot of words. But it doesn't deal with the simple fact that it is not unlawful
> to overfly airspace where there are no CAA-defined restrictions.
> .
> .
> You have no knowledge whatsoever about aviation laws, I'm afraid.
If what @MoontownMoss says is correct, then it might not be an issue of aviation law - flying a drone might be unlawful under other legislation.
He thinks he's Keir, and can make us do whatever he fancies.
The number of handbrake turns in logic that bonehead contradicted himself in five minutes was impressive 😂😂
You can see how he will get away with it.. people are dumb 🤷♂️
Get a life and leave your politics out of it.
@@johnscotcher9753okay, don't Labour the point. We'll two tier Kier steer away from it 😂
Good job it's not Farage or he'd have started a riot.
Hello police there is a man not on our land not breaking the law send all your officers
Nice one Pete! He still couldn’t get his head around the fact that his policies don’t apply when you’re on the road 😂
Anymore nation trust sites that have a road through them? 🤔😂
I still dont understand this paranoia about having children in photographs. I could understand it if men are taking pics of ladies dressed in bikinis, but fully clothed kids???
Love to see them try stopping people flying over Osterley Park. (it's under the Heathrow flight path) these people think they have authority way beyond their remit.