How to Save Orbs! Tips and Strategies to Help You Save! | Fire Emblem Heroes [FEH]

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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    This is a topic I've received a lot of requests to make, so hopefully this will be helpful for those who want to save orbs and are struggling to do so. To be clear, this is not the only way or my prescribed "best way," but it is how I personally see orb saving in the game and how I started saving. I recognize this might not be fun for a lot of people, but hopefully it is still helpful. Ultimately I hope people have fun playing how they want to play and if this helps maximize their enjoyment and experience, than that is good!
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:18 - Disclaimers
    2:50 - Defining Goals
    5:17 - Setting Criteria
    7:30 - Example AR Criteria
    9:40 - Example Arena Criteria
    10:26 - Example SD-R Criteria
    13:23 - Strategy Recap
    14:12 - Further Tips to Save
    22:03 - Conclusion
    Music:
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  • @DTMFEH
    @DTMFEH  Год назад +11

    What projects are you hoping to save for?
    I had a lot of request to make this, but I wanted to share how I started saving orbs! This strategy and tips is just one out of many and I do recognize it might not be fun for a lot of players, but for those looking to save and struggling to do so, hopefully it still helps!

    • @midnightrosa8130
      @midnightrosa8130 Год назад

      To be honest. My end goal for this year is at least a +5 Winter Altina. Other than that I have no other goals in sight

    • @crabjonas1946
      @crabjonas1946 Год назад

      I want to get all the feh oc's

    • @LyndiusFEH
      @LyndiusFEH Год назад

      Just a simple one, +10 Neimi and waiting for her alt. Anything can happen

    • @rouxiferre9079
      @rouxiferre9079 Год назад +1

      +10 every female Morgan

    • @josueravena3464
      @josueravena3464 Год назад +1

      Simple, +10 Chrobin or a male duo unit.

  • @naoshihanazawa9408
    @naoshihanazawa9408 Год назад +20

    This is why I'm usually 1,000 orbs, I focus only AR which only requires one mythic copy and no merges. Plus getting one copy of my first favorite character from FE games, Micaiah. It's so easy to save when you just get a goal and min-max.

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +5

      Likewise! Yeah having a goal and something to drive you really does make saving easier!

  • @klondikelegitski675
    @klondikelegitski675 Год назад +8

    Saw Legendary Nanna
    Blew entire load on Red during Askr Banner
    Now has +4 Nanna and enough Vital Astra to weaponize 2 small Armys

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +3

      Legendary and Mythic banners be like that sometimes.

  • @sylo2110
    @sylo2110 Год назад +7

    Great video! Even though I have heard most of this before, it's a nice reminder to keep me on the straight and narrow. Every year around CYL time I always get hyped from the community vids/pulls and I always empty my savings, just to regret it later 😥. Thanks for the reminder this year before the banner drops. I'll spark and wait as you suggested!

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much! Yeah a little patience goes a long way!

  • @HeroMystic
    @HeroMystic Год назад +1

    This is eight months old but I really needed this video. I made a new account about a month ago after being away for 4+ years and being put off by the power creep in Summoner Duels, which is my favorite mode (in concept). I have a much more modern barracks but I still feel tempted to keep up with the meta. Hearing you say that I don't need to meta chase has sort of cleared my head. I definitely have favorite characters that I just want to make work (like Brave Marth) instead of chasing the meta.
    Still tough to not just say screw it and get a new meta unit though. Getting railed by Brave Seliphs, Brave Chroms, and L!Nannas can be super demoralizing.

  • @TheronTheAverageGamer
    @TheronTheAverageGamer Год назад +1

    Really great video DTM, I agreed with a lot of your points. Saving for a specific goal is the best take away for anyone to hear.
    I myself am currently saving a ton of orbs for any Azura, Sakura, or Elise alts. What helps is it's on a device that's sharing my account so I can still do my video's while still saving as many orbs as I can. That may contradict some of what you said, but it's how I'm playing right now and that's a-okay with me. 💙

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +2

      Thank you so much Theron! And yeah that's totally cool and I don't claim to espouse a "correct" way of saving or what not. Hopefully we get an alt for Sakura or Elise soon! Happy you enjoyed the video!

  • @Mark-Merc505
    @Mark-Merc505 Год назад

    As someone who struggles to save orbs, this was cool. Thanks!

  • @kamer7687
    @kamer7687 Год назад

    Awesome video. I've never considered this before. I've probably only ever been able to save to about 400 orbs, but after this CYL expires I will definitely only spend on offensive mythics to improve my lift.

  • @Y0kAiS
    @Y0kAiS Год назад

    I would recommend playing previous fire emblem games if you do not have a favorite character yet. That helped me find who I wanted to save for. 👌🏾 this video was awesome!

  • @Royal-Knight
    @Royal-Knight Год назад +9

    Though I have been saving orbs for quite some time, this may prove useful in my ultimate goal to one day +10 every Eirika. For now, my focus will be to max out Winter Eirika, hopefully by the end of the year.

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +2

      Wishing you the best of lucks to finishing W!Eirika!

  • @TRayquaza
    @TRayquaza Год назад +1

    Really nice video, agree with everything you said. It is basically how I got 11 5 star exclusive +10s as F2P. Interesting that you had to repeat the disclaimer so many times, as many just get offended when your playstyle doesn’t match theirs. Stay strong and keep going!
    I am about to finish my 5th year of playing FEH in December, hoping to complete 2-3 more 5 stars before that: +8 Legendary Xanderl (September)/+9 Eitri (October)/+7 Legendary Eliwood (November remix).

  • @gamegirl949
    @gamegirl949 Год назад +1

    Right now, my biggest barrier to saving is summoning within the 1st few days because I get wrapped up in the hype. Hopefully it will get easier in time! Great tips, especially toward the end!

  • @Dago__
    @Dago__ Год назад

    Thanks for the tips! very helpful video DTM!!
    Now i'm saving for +10 base Dorothea when she arrives, I already have her summer version +10 and her harmonic also +10 with a lot of effort and savings. I also hope to +10 all versions of Edelgard and Eliwood in the future 🥺

  • @vazquez2073
    @vazquez2073 Год назад +7

    "Focus on your objective in the game and only summon on banners that accomplish said objective"
    Me, who plays and summon in the game to use pretty/cool looking characters: 😵‍💫
    Great video btw. Don't know how much i will be able to actually do from this, but it's nice to see you helping people save!

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much! Yeah obviously this isn't every player, but for those who do want to save yeah I do hope it is helpful!

  • @midnightrosa8130
    @midnightrosa8130 Год назад

    Great video as always. Me usually: Summons for Duo Units/Units of characters I like and that's it tbh. If not, fodder for my meme speed Winter Altina

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      Trying to summon for your favs is a valid goal and one I do too!

  • @Yokokazuo
    @Yokokazuo Год назад +5

    I’ve been working on more focused goals for a couple years ago.
    Managed to +10 Hardin and I’ve been trying to get all Archanean units, but may not go for seasonal to save orbs.
    My current goal is Medeus, but I had terrible luck last banner with only 1 Medeus and the spark in 600+ orbs…

  • @nightpurple372
    @nightpurple372 Год назад

    great video and a good reminder to myself to stay critical every time a new banner drops cause people like to hype stuff but in the end they are shiny new toys and don't actually need them unless my favourite is in there.
    I pull for favourite characters. I came to this conclusion recently, goals can change as you mentioned in this video. at first I wanted to get into competitive play and going for legendary and mythic merges, but seeing how volatile and a pain in the butt legendary banners are I gave up on that goal. I said "screw it, I'm done with those banners, focus on passion projects". I pulled only once for fodder for Julius (one of my favourites) and it was worth it! he's putting in a lot of work. it's so satisfying using favourites in competitive modes.

  • @chrisengland3798
    @chrisengland3798 Год назад

    When I heard you ask "what are your goals?", I thought that I really don't have any goals in FEH, but then I remembered: 100% complete Hero Encyclopedia. I am in some ways a hoarder, and this is especially true in any kind of game: a lot of times in TCGs, I save cards for something i am looking for, only to have the price on the card drop significantly due to a reprint; gacha games are the same - I don't really care much about the meta (always changing, so following that is a lot harder to do in general), don't care much about +10'ing units (too many resources needed for doing so with no real way make it easy for the first portion), and I don't really have any favorite units in general (closest thing is a "no character should go without an alt" mentality).

  • @BlutgangHer0
    @BlutgangHer0 Год назад +3

    Despite being a high ranked VoH player myself, I find it a lot more fun hording orbs to +10 favorites than pulling for the latest meta units.
    I don't have an active merge project atm, yet I'm saving up for a 3 Hopes Marianne so I could +10 her and use her to reach top rank in AR and vanilla SD, just like how I did with all my Marianne alts.

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      Yeah I like hording orbs too!

  • @saberfroste8376
    @saberfroste8376 Год назад

    Hey DTM! I just want you to know that I'm doing a translation of this video into Spanish. The guide is very good and I want that more people can use it to save orbs. Of course I'll give you all credits at the beginning of the guide.

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      Hi! Thank you so much for letting me know! Yeah I am fine with that as long as proper credit is given in the video and a link to the original video is provided. Happy to hear that it was very helpful!

    • @saberfroste8376
      @saberfroste8376 Год назад

      Thanks! And yeah, the credits and the link to the video are on the first page.
      Btw. The translation it's gonna be on a text format.

  • @occulydian7043
    @occulydian7043 Год назад +1

    My goal has always been to be able to ruin people's day in AR, so getting units that allow me to strengthen the weird niche comps I use (which occasionally includes skills, such as Atk/Spd Oath 4 freeing up my D!Dagr's seal slot for QP so she can have a pre-charged Deadeye) is always what I aim to do. And fortunately, it's very rare for skills or units that support my goals to be released, so unless I get hit with a bunch of consecutive banners where the stars align, saving works pretty well.

  • @Quiqueleal85
    @Quiqueleal85 Год назад +3

    the only time I go out of my way to summon off goals is... Mythic, and when I find something unique looks extremely different and useful... H!Azura, D!Chrom, summer edelgard and S!micaiah were some units that baited me this year... I really loved how they felt really useful vs the FarSave meta that's plaguing AR.
    right now im focusing on A!Idunn, Eitri, and LMyrh... DC opened the door for dragons and I am all for it!! and whichever FCorin comes along! Simp here!! plz CYL7!!

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      I would love to see F!Corrin get a brave alt for CYL 7!

  • @l4zshirex
    @l4zshirex Год назад

    ty so much, i hope i can save orbs 🙏

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      Your welcome! I have full confidence in you!

  • @adityashankar9551
    @adityashankar9551 Год назад

    For the majority of the banners, I primarily use the free summons. Only when I needed hardy fighter in this hero fest, for L!Tiki, or for less than 50 orbs for duo chrom, did I summon as a dedicated madlad. Only the Real Demon King Formitis gets my orbs. I started playing this game from the Bridal banner which featured Lilina. So, in total I spent like 400 orbs till now.

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      Hopefuly Formitis gets in as a mythic soon!

  • @crabjonas1946
    @crabjonas1946 Год назад

    I found the video through Reddit so continue to do so

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      Thank you so much!

  • @NoclafPain
    @NoclafPain Год назад +2

    My Goal is to +10 every version of Rhea

  • @marcosmolares5910
    @marcosmolares5910 Год назад

    Great vid! Is there a way to get more blessings in the game? Since I dont have that many good performing units in my barracs I end up re blessing some on each season change and my blessing numbers are coming down hard...

  • @reidskull5018
    @reidskull5018 Год назад +1

    My problem is that there are a lot of units I like and want to summon/build. I've summoned almost nonstop since getting the game in May and my only regrets are 1.) Sparking Ymir instead of A!Celica because people on Reddit kept saying Ymir would be OP, and 2.) Having so many units I like that I don't use all of them. Now I'm running out of story orbs so I'll be forced to save anyway.

  • @bagu2769
    @bagu2769 Год назад

    Using the summon simulator is really good to see the terrible odds of actually summoning units and that makes me review my merge projects and really prioritize better.

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      Yeah the summoning simulator is a really good reality check!

  • @caiquerossi143
    @caiquerossi143 Год назад +1

    My goal right now is to have every mythic dancer at+10, so i'm saving for Plumeria and Mira, they will be sharing color on october's banner 😊

  • @LyndiusFEH
    @LyndiusFEH Год назад +2

    I'm saving at least merges for +10 Neimi because she was my favorite character in FE8 and she does really well than I expected. Hoping for an alt maybe Valentines Neimi or something idk

  • @epdgraor4904
    @epdgraor4904 Год назад

    after i got Duo Dagr and Duo Chrom at their debut banner, i started making goal that i will summon unit who I REALLY NEED IT for me...doesn't care for meta or whatsoever, just saving and summon if i REALLY WANT that unit :)

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      That's a good way to think for FEH!

  • @OchtendjasLama
    @OchtendjasLama Год назад

    For me it helps to look at the banners and think of the following things: Does it add anything that I would enjoy, and in case of a legendary/mythic banner, do I mind getting any of the other heroes? Do I need any of them as fodder for one of the different Leif alts? Are there things happening in the future that I'd rather have? Is there a new Leif, Roy, Seliph, Mareeta, Sigurd alt coming that I'd love to have. My coming goal is +10 merging my L!Leif, since it's confirmed that he's gonna get a remix, he's my fav hero (he's the closest to my OC I can ever get in FEH) and shoot for him on the remix banner, since that features the spark for me, and there are only 2 heroes per colour, instead of 3.

  • @jeanne7296
    @jeanne7296 Год назад

    Oof I am so guilty of falling for a lot of gambling tactics you pointed out (hype, baited by sparks, etc.) I pull way too often even though I'm not even too competitive. The gacha itch is too strong.
    Right now I'm saving for (1) hopefully a +10 L!Edelgard from her remix, (2) +10 any other Edelgard besides Flamey or at least deck out Academy Edelgard, (3) a potential Hopes Edelgard alt. I'll also try to pull for other potential Black Eagles alts but those are my priorities rn.

  • @Samsonsamurai
    @Samsonsamurai Год назад

    My conditions are
    getting cool skills for Owain
    Getting my favorite characters

  • @dante77phoenix65
    @dante77phoenix65 Год назад

    I broke my hard limit while trying to +10 A!Laegjarn after getting a +10 A!Fjorm (plus 3 after that)... Honestly i'm kinda tired because after +9 Laegjarn i couldn't get the last one after +250 orbs, i will try until the end of the banner, after that i will stick to these guidelines doesn't matter if i +10 her or not after that

  • @kazumakariama
    @kazumakariama Год назад +1

    My only goals in FEH are getting some waifus and units that help my few teams. Its hard with just those 2 goals because of how vague it is. So i think just waifus will have to do it for me because i dont care much about meta despite my second most wanted unit, Hataria Azura being each of those. Maybe only rolling on banners where sparking is possible could be another goal because it can save you orbs

  • @keita_ch
    @keita_ch Год назад +1

    After my project of +10 Fjorm, I'm not saving much orbs. Sometimes summon for skill improvement.
    But, almost every map is available for me to farm, I'm kinda stop playing since end of book 4. So every map still there.

  • @rj_7adventureready231
    @rj_7adventureready231 Год назад +1

    Whoa, we get 320 Orbs a month!? Dang, I was here complaining we don’t get enough!

  • @ToastyBeruka
    @ToastyBeruka Год назад

    this has worked for me, I am now at a good amount of Orbs to get Hatari Karla merges for when she comes back. Now if only IS would stop giving me waifu banners that make me want to summon.

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      That amazing to hear! And yeah there's a lot of interesting banners, but don't let IS win!

    • @midnightrosa8130
      @midnightrosa8130 Год назад

      IS: Drops a waifu banner with cuboon art
      Berk boy: Needs the bible to resist the temptation

  • @josueravena3464
    @josueravena3464 Год назад +1

    For me, the reason I play feh is to give me good headcanons for a potential yaoi fanfic and also collect my favorites.
    Since IS is known for shafting male characters, so I'm pretty much fine with and I pull when I pull. Not really a very meta player, I'm just a casual play who plays for fun.

  • @profefortoad
    @profefortoad Год назад

    I saved 450 orbs, but there will all be gone soon. My most investet unit is legendary corrin (+7) and she is on the next legendary/mythic banner. If a cyl unit is SUPER unique i maybe summon. And even if orbs survive i will spent them on the weekly revival with ophilia and tibarn in September because both of them are one of my favorite Charakters in fe.

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      Wishing you the best of lucks on finishing Corrin!

  • @salag8013
    @salag8013 Год назад +1

    For the first time ever I have 120 orbs gonna keep saving for cyl

  • @fybso3057
    @fybso3057 Год назад

    Should i not summon for heavy blade 4 fodder then to give my muarim? I was really excited to give him that skill and he's gonna be +10 soon!

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      I'm not one to summon whether or not you should have done something, but my personal view is to always make do with what you have. Definitely don't feel bad about what I value though. Muarim is an amazing unit to +10!

    • @fybso3057
      @fybso3057 Год назад

      @@DTMFEH i just think the skill fits him so well, it would be very satisfying to get it for him

  • @marcalcantara1174
    @marcalcantara1174 Год назад

    My goal is getting every ability possible to my Lute so... Saving is almost impossible
    (I do have every blue tome on her which is a start)

  • @SapphicSara
    @SapphicSara Год назад

    My set up since sparking game to new Hero Banners my way of handling orbs remains the same.
    Never summon on non sparkable banners unless it's an absolute favorite character.
    Never aim for merges unless merges are gained during a spark or by a spark.
    Goal is always units I actually like. I want to collect all my favorites and every canon queer character possible. I also wanna get whatever FF duo/Harms I can get.

    • @SapphicSara
      @SapphicSara Год назад

      Also FEH pass is not worth it in my eyea as a constant thing. It's only ever been worth it for me to spark Summer Edelgard because Edelgard is a major favorite.

  • @icelerate8141
    @icelerate8141 Год назад

    My goals are to max merge all versions of Micaiah and max merge good versions of Edelgard. My competitive goals is to get top 1k in AR O but unfortunately I don't have the merges to do so. My other goal is to stay in top 1k in AA but I need more legendary hero merges. My other goal is to stay top 1k in SDS and SDR which I can do easily even before I got hardy fighter far save so I don't agree with your advice at least in my case. I don't aim for tier 21 arena or resonant battles but do think it is worthwhile to stay at least in tier 20. I also want one copy of each mythic to make things easy in AR O and AR D.
    When it comes to changing your goals, I think downsizing maximalist goals is better than adding new goals. For example, despite wanting to +10 all versions of Micaiah, I have given up on Bridal Micaiah because she's only at +1, I barely use her and she is hard to merge in a banner that reruns once a year and is not worthwhile to spend orbs on. I did try a lot to get merges on her spending many hundreds of orbs but I have failed in that endeavor. I will wait until she is put on the SHSR banner.

  • @twistedluki2100
    @twistedluki2100 Год назад +1

    After cyl I'm gonna save only for a!idunn she's gonna enter the rerun voting so I feel like she's gonna win at some point I mean it's bector 2.0 I can't see her never winning I got her and the og version hardy from the hero fest only far save is missing

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      Yeah A!Idunn is an extremely powerful Far Save unit!

  • @Xertaron.
    @Xertaron. Год назад

    It's much easier to save if your tastes don't align with those of IS. On the list of my about 50 favourite characters only 7 (Henry, Cordelia, Rinkah, Berkut, Nephenee, Minerva and Owain) have more than 1 version, the rest have just one or aren't in the game at all.
    Unless the odds are good and there's a character i'm even remotely interested in i just summon once and ignore the event. And at the end of the day i'm playing casually. I don't care about being competetive in AR or Arena. Seeing Arval i got from some banner go brrr is enough to make me happy. And to be fair fallen Rhea i got as random 5* summon made me pay even less attention seeing how she can solo most special maps.

  • @browserjunior4707
    @browserjunior4707 Год назад +1

    Honestly my primary goal for FEH is to snag every form of Tiki possible (Naga and Nagi are included), and my secondary goal is to make them all viable someway
    My main issue is generally just how often the Tikis get rerun especially the Summer ones where I have to save so many orbs. I’m close to my goal though as I have +2 on 3 of my Tikis and +10 on Adult Tiki. I’m only missing Young Tiki and Halloween Tiki
    My issue with orbs in general is that

  • @hotsoup6296
    @hotsoup6296 Год назад

    Don't get it twisted keep summoning you WILL hit it big and get the unite

  • @Greideren
    @Greideren Год назад

    One time I saved 800+ orbs to +10 my Ninian but ever since then I haven't saved more than 400 orbs at a time, probably because I didn't care much for merge projects after that and those that I had appeared in banners every once in a while so my orbs were gone then.
    The only merge project I have now is Ash but I was very lucky and she's +6/+7 already so it's not like I have to save that many orbs. And it's not like it's a guarantee that her FB banner revival will win.

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      Yeah I do hope Ash's banner wins at some point, but it is looking unlikely.

    • @Greideren
      @Greideren Год назад

      @@DTMFEH I hope so too but now that Askr was released it is less likely for her to win...
      Tho it's not like people want the other banners as much so there might be hope.

  • @Oblivionknight
    @Oblivionknight Год назад +1

    Wait you can save orbs 😅 Jokes aside, this is great advice

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      I hear it's a mythical strat lost to the ages 😅. Thank you so much! Hopefully a lot of people will find it helpful!

  • @Samsonsamurai
    @Samsonsamurai Год назад

    I wish I could have my goal be +10 every Owain alt lol

  • @kimgalorport9852
    @kimgalorport9852 Год назад +2

    Hahahaha me in the corner crying over having 0 orbs right now👉👈😭
    Also me: Struggling on the hero fest banner but then was wasted

    • @sylo2110
      @sylo2110 Год назад +1

      Same 😥😥

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад +1

      No worries at all, we all start somewhere! And if you are looking to CYL, there should still be time to be able to at least spark on that banner!

    • @kimgalorport9852
      @kimgalorport9852 Год назад +1

      @@sylo2110 Im here for you🥺

    • @kimgalorport9852
      @kimgalorport9852 Год назад

      @@DTMFEH But we do get a free/choose one right?

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      Yep! That should still be there!

  • @FEH
    @FEH Год назад

    “It’s not a Fallen Rhea. It’s a Wrys. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @DTMFEH
      @DTMFEH  Год назад

      It's always a Wrys 😅

  • @TheMikkelet
    @TheMikkelet Год назад +3

    My criteria:
    - should be sparkable
    - should contain a hero I'm building
    However, sparkables are varying in cost. Forging Bonds Banners is 135 obs for sparkable (because of free summoning tickets). The anniversary banner was 120 for sparkable (plus 4 free summons). Legendary, TT, and others are 155. Only doing the cheap sparkables is a way to save orbs as well.
    If the banner is not sparkable, dont summon. If the banner is only new heroes (usually seasonal), skip it. If a legendary banner doesn't contain a project-hero, I will skip.

  • @leoaltivez7161
    @leoaltivez7161 Год назад +1

    How to save orbs : dont spend them

  • @fluffydemon1
    @fluffydemon1 Год назад +1

    How to save orbs:
    Just don't summon.
    *Ever.*