Joe is the voice of the future of mental health. He speaks a truth that we all know and that we’ve been burying our head in the sand about. No more telling people they’re chemically imbalanced, it prevents healing and takes away peoples power to understand their own story.
Hi Joe that was an excellent talk im going through horrible anxiety especially before bed and then cant sleep any suggestions?I was given anti depressants for rew weeks but came off them weaning myself@How did you deal with the anxiety?@@joetudor5065
Well done Joe ...calling out the NHS practice of a hopeless diagnosis of a serotonin chemical imbalance without no blood test , physical checks..then the overmedication. You exploring your own story
Joe, thank you for offering a different narrative around 'mental health' to the one that most receive via the medical model. Your experience will resonate with many and, as you well know, when someone tells their story it often gives others the space to reflect and then tell theirs. Thank you for this gift and just so pleased and humbled that you use your voice in such a powerful way.
It’s been incredible to follow your journey over these years! Such a great speech. I got goosebumps. I’m really hoping you blow up on this video as we’re long overdue a change in collective mindset on depression and this needs to get exposure at every level in government.
Mate, you should be so proud of yourself and what you’ve accomplished. That talk was amazing, I’ve had depression most of my life I think, I’m 51 and I’ve many times felt like I had no hope, that I was worthless and insignificant to the world. Thankyou for offering g this insightful alternative. Much love from Australia
I'm so sorry to hear that you've also felt the crippling impact of shame. I know how tough it can be. I'm so glad to hear that you're looking into an alternative way.
The mental health system will catch up eventually, and then Ted and the whole world will realise that what Joe’s saying is 100% true. “I just wanted to get back to normal, but my normal was the problem in the first place” …he summed it up perfectly.
An incredibly brave and powerful speech which has really made me think twice about depression and how we approach it. NHS aside, I think it has a valuable message for everybody
A superb talk - well done Joe and thank you for sharing your experience. I loved this bit: "It'd be like having a green plant and all of a sudden the leaves start to turn brown. You wouldn't label that plant with 'Brown Leaf Disorder' and spray paint the leaves green. You'd look at the root cause; how's the soil? Is it getting enough light? Or does it need more water? The brown leaf diagnosis would divert attention away from what's really going on."
Thank you so much, Deirdre. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch my talk and comment. I literally spent a day writing out different possibilities. Funnily enough, one of my most healthy house plants has just developed a very brown leaf!
What is that bizarre “note from Ted” all about? Joe’s message is completely contextualised, open-minded and reflective. I thought Ted Talks were intended to open debate and present alternative viewpoints. That note belies it. All power to you Joe. I’m a therapist. I’d like all my clients to get to your place of clarity and understanding and yes, it is hard work! Great talk. You’ve nailed it! 😊
The whole point of the talk was to not offer advice and to help people make their own minds up. The note reinforces the need for people to make thier own decisions and question the dominant, unproven narratives we're told. Thank you so much for your comment. I created the talk to get it to people in need and to hear therapists are watching it is brilliant.
@joetudor5065 well done for speaking up! I too was like you and a similar personality and experience. At 32, no signs of mental health prior to my acute depressive episode. A GP put me on a antidepressant immediately, no tests either, and the medication had a side effect (warning) of potential suicide ideation (which I either wasnt told or didnt take in, in the midst of my tears during my appt with her). I know I never felt suicidal prior to starting that medication, but within a week or two after starting it, I woke up in hospital, recovering from an unplanned suicide attempt (potentially leaving young children) Majority of my healing has been holistic, with minimal medication, and the only one I agreed to take, was one I that I personally chose after extensive research. To do this, I obviously had to move around Drs until I found one willing to really listen to me and accept my informed decisions and choices. I had psychiatrists deem me non compliant for choosing my own recovery and healing modalities. Anyway, I never want pity, I actually feel truly blessed, in ways, from experiencing severe depression and Generalised anxiety. It has been years of lessons learned, and the growth I've had, especially with my own self worth and now not feeling I have to please anyone, nor live up to anyone else's expectations has been expedential. I believe, you and I, and all the others who have lived through such despair and emptiness, are angels on earth, here to use our stories to give others hope especially those who dont have the means or state of mind to conduct their own research ❤ i send much love and light to every single human being, please never lose hope, its only ever a second, a minute, an hour and a day at a time! You are all loved and you uniquely bring something incredibly amazingly to this world, in any frame of mind 🫶
God bless this man ❤I'm only just realising that I've spent all my life pushing down my emotions because I wasn't at liberty to express them. Some have said in the past that depression is a form of frozen anger. I believe that in my case
I'm really sorry to hear you weren't able to let yourself express your emotions. It's so tough pushing them down. I can relate to the frozen anger and know that it's not a simple process of reconnecting, but it can be done. I hope you find the space you need to allow yourself to be you and find peace.
Thank you Joe for sharing your incredibly articulate, honest, lived experience. Your story will inspire so many to re-think how they approach their distress.
This is so nice of you to say. I just want people to be able to think for themselves and make their own decisions. Let's hope for a more informed future.
Joe, your talk was incredibly moving and courageous-thank you for sharing such a deeply personal and powerful message. It really made me reflect: was your journey a result of a chemical imbalance, or is it something far more universal-a profoundly human experience? The way you navigated this topic with such emotion and strength is truly inspiring to me and I'm sure many others. You’ve opened a door for so many others to explore their own struggles with bravery and honesty. Bravo!
An amazing talk that makes sense and is evidence based for once. It’s time to change the narrative on mental health. Thanks Joe and everyone supporting his work.
Great talk Joe, thanks for sharing Even with greater awareness these days of depression, I think there is still a lack of understanding. Sharing your experience of the help you were given and the help you needed will hopefully open a lot of eyes
Absolutely fantastic talk Joe, and thanks so much for sharing your story. Loved where you said about trying to get back to normal! This is absolutely the conversation we need to be having.
This was such a fantastic talk and really inspiring. I can definitely relate and so many gp's handle depression and anxiety in the wrong way. Therapy is the only thing that works, not anti depressants - especially long term. Thank you again for spreading awareness.
Really powerful message that is presented beautifully through your personal experience. The message is eye opening as I’ve certainly noticed some of those unhealthy coping mechanisms in my own life when things mount up, and it really highlights the need to a multifaceted approach.
Thank you for being so brave and speaking up to show us all a different alternative ❤ You delivered that speech so incredibly well & should be very proud x
Thanks for sharing your story - great question: a chemical imbalance or a human experience? In my experience, a human experience, I can relate to a squashing of emotions. On reading my notes to my doctor in one of my hospital admissions I wrote "I don't like this [particular medication], it stops my reading, my music and scrapbooking". For me, the medication suppressed the emotions I wanted to feel in order to unravel the hurt inside and feel alive and well again.
Hi Hannah, thanks for commenting. It sounds like you've been on a brave and challenging journey, but in reading your short post I can see you've gained a lot of wisdom. It's brilliant you've commented, the more people share their experiences and gained wisdom, the more informed we can be to make our own choices. Thanks again for taking the time to watch my talk. Cheers, Joe
Well done, Joe. So inspiring to see you sharing your story in such a honest and powerful way. There’s a long way to go with the NHS and mental health and it’s important that stories and messages like yours reaches the people who need to hear it. Wish you all the best.
Hi Mike, so nice of you to take the time to comment. Your work has really been in my thoughts lately. I've been on a huge journey since we met. I'd love to go for that coffee soon. I feel like you need to do the next TED talk!
Thank you so much. It means a great deal to know that you relate. It's tough speaking in public, but I really felt like I was speaking for many others too.
Great talk, Joe! Sharing your story is incredibly brave and there’s huge strength in vulnerability. Therapy has been critical in learning why I am the way I am and to really understand my feelings and behaviours. Keep up the good work!
Such a powerful talk Joe. I feel like I need to watch this once a week. Maybe more. Such a fresh standpoint. Many - me included - sometimes get put off on this topic but your standpoint is fresh, and understandable for all. Truly inclusive. Thank you for your vulnerability.
Well Done Joe! You articulate well the distraction and negative effects of a Bio-medical Model of depression and share your alternative story well of Hope that you are building with others - I also could Diagnosis Distracted me from making the links with what had happened to me and the positive changes I could make e in my social situation - I was on a lot of meds for 10 years and 7 inpatient admissions, but once I escaped the Bio-Medical Story I got into a better story with a go-ahead plot, go t married, raised children, got employment and got a life, and now it is 25 years later I am so glad I am no longer trapped in a Bio-medical Story and on all those numbing meds, Thanks for sharing your story !!
Fantastic Joe, a real eye opener and siren call that we need to start broadening our understanding and perspective on depression and mental health. My brother ❤
Joe so well said. Depression is a human experience. I have been with people who have been prescribed anti depressants because they are homeless or in poverty or living through abuse. Tablets are not the solution. People need to have informed choice and governments needs to be held account for the real causes
Hi Lori, thanks for watching and commenting. I really hope you find the way that works for you. Everyone's experience is different and it's up to you how you relate to your experience. I really hoped my talk made you think, even if you disagree. I hope you find the healing you're looking for. Joe
@joetudor5065 I've decided not to take the antidepressants and seek out therapy or counselling instead. Your Ted talk helped me to make my decision. So thank you. Your talk was amazing by the way.
Joe is a young lovely fresh faced guy who'd perhaps be listened to more by the NHS. At my age now 52 they don't listen cos ive just swallowed every pill i was given so desperate to get back to my normal.
one of the things that stands out here is this young man is well resourced enabling change - many are poorly resourced and therapy as well as the drugs can make things worse. Interesting how this is often missing from any account of change.
Wow, that's such a powerful compliment, thank you so much. It's so amazing to know you can see how much work went into this. Our system is so hard to navigate and the last year has been tough, but I've been supported by so many amazing people. The path to embodying our emotions is a difficult one. I agree with the therpay point too, so many intellectualise and don't feel, I certainly did for many years. Thanks again for taking the time.
Such a powerful talk and such important messages. We need to make space for ourselves to understand our personal experiences and the emotions which we're attempting to manage, by pushing them down or cutting them off, which lies behind what we call depression. For anyone interested its also useful to look at the extensive research and videos by Prof Joanna Moncrieff from UCL, who debunks the medical model of serotonin causing depression
I've had the horrible D for 30 years on and off and not once was any brains checks done on serotonin dopamine etc. Why? Cos it too expensive for the govt to do so they just fling out prescriptions like cheap peanuts to a troop of monkeys 😢😢
Thus talk suggests that getting meducal help for mental dustress can be harmful. I agree and think there is plenty of evidence for that. While I think the format of ted talks does not invite debate I find the statement in the description of this talk dissappinting.
Hi Andrew, thanks for taking the time to watch my talk and comment. I really wish there was a simple answer. I just wished I'd have been given the support to find my own answers at the start. I got it in the end and I hope you can find support in finding your own answers. Cheers, Joe
Joe is the voice of the future of mental health. He speaks a truth that we all know and that we’ve been burying our head in the sand about. No more telling people they’re chemically imbalanced, it prevents healing and takes away peoples power to understand their own story.
Thank you so much James.
Hi Joe that was an excellent talk im going through horrible anxiety especially before bed and then cant sleep any suggestions?I was given anti depressants for rew weeks but came off them weaning myself@How did you deal with the anxiety?@@joetudor5065
It's hard to put into words, but the book "Breakout dark depression" completely changed my life and it's not new age bs
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Well done Joe ...calling out the NHS practice of a hopeless diagnosis of a serotonin chemical imbalance without no blood test , physical checks..then the overmedication. You exploring your own story
Joe, thank you for offering a different narrative around 'mental health' to the one that most receive via the medical model. Your experience will resonate with many and, as you well know, when someone tells their story it often gives others the space to reflect and then tell theirs. Thank you for this gift and just so pleased and humbled that you use your voice in such a powerful way.
Thank you so much for your kind comment and watching my talk.
It’s been incredible to follow your journey over these years! Such a great speech. I got goosebumps. I’m really hoping you blow up on this video as we’re long overdue a change in collective mindset on depression and this needs to get exposure at every level in government.
Mate, you should be so proud of yourself and what you’ve accomplished. That talk was amazing, I’ve had depression most of my life I think, I’m 51 and I’ve many times felt like I had no hope, that I was worthless and insignificant to the world.
Thankyou for offering g this insightful alternative.
Much love from Australia
I'm so sorry to hear that you've also felt the crippling impact of shame. I know how tough it can be. I'm so glad to hear that you're looking into an alternative way.
Great job, Joe! You obviously struck a chord with many people - that note from TED just goes to show how needed your message is!
The mental health system will catch up eventually, and then Ted and the whole world will realise that what Joe’s saying is 100% true. “I just wanted to get back to normal, but my normal was the problem in the first place” …he summed it up perfectly.
An incredibly brave and powerful speech which has really made me think twice about depression and how we approach it. NHS aside, I think it has a valuable message for everybody
Thank you so much. I hope the message lands in a non-judgemental way.
A superb talk - well done Joe and thank you for sharing your experience. I loved this bit:
"It'd be like having a green plant and all of a sudden the leaves start to turn brown. You wouldn't label that plant with 'Brown Leaf Disorder' and spray paint the leaves green. You'd look at the root cause; how's the soil? Is it getting enough light? Or does it need more water?
The brown leaf diagnosis would divert attention away from what's really going on."
Yes fantastic analogy
Thank you so much, Deirdre. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch my talk and comment. I literally spent a day writing out different possibilities. Funnily enough, one of my most healthy house plants has just developed a very brown leaf!
What is that bizarre “note from Ted” all about? Joe’s message is completely contextualised, open-minded and reflective. I thought Ted Talks were intended to open debate and present alternative viewpoints. That note belies it. All power to you Joe. I’m a therapist. I’d like all my clients to get to your place of clarity and understanding and yes, it is hard work! Great talk. You’ve nailed it! 😊
The whole point of the talk was to not offer advice and to help people make their own minds up. The note reinforces the need for people to make thier own decisions and question the dominant, unproven narratives we're told. Thank you so much for your comment. I created the talk to get it to people in need and to hear therapists are watching it is brilliant.
@joetudor5065 well done for speaking up! I too was like you and a similar personality and experience. At 32, no signs of mental health prior to my acute depressive episode. A GP put me on a antidepressant immediately, no tests either, and the medication had a side effect (warning) of potential suicide ideation (which I either wasnt told or didnt take in, in the midst of my tears during my appt with her). I know I never felt suicidal prior to starting that medication, but within a week or two after starting it, I woke up in hospital, recovering from an unplanned suicide attempt (potentially leaving young children) Majority of my healing has been holistic, with minimal medication, and the only one I agreed to take, was one I that I personally chose after extensive research. To do this, I obviously had to move around Drs until I found one willing to really listen to me and accept my informed decisions and choices. I had psychiatrists deem me non compliant for choosing my own recovery and healing modalities. Anyway, I never want pity, I actually feel truly blessed, in ways, from experiencing severe depression and Generalised anxiety. It has been years of lessons learned, and the growth I've had, especially with my own self worth and now not feeling I have to please anyone, nor live up to anyone else's expectations has been expedential. I believe, you and I, and all the others who have lived through such despair and emptiness, are angels on earth, here to use our stories to give others hope especially those who dont have the means or state of mind to conduct their own research ❤ i send much love and light to every single human being, please never lose hope, its only ever a second, a minute, an hour and a day at a time! You are all loved and you uniquely bring something incredibly amazingly to this world, in any frame of mind 🫶
I disliked some TEDx talks on mental health because they felt like advertisements for psychiatric drugs, but this one is different, truly insightful.
Thank you so much for saying my talk is insightful.
God bless this man ❤I'm only just realising that I've spent all my life pushing down my emotions because I wasn't at liberty to express them. Some have said in the past that depression is a form of frozen anger. I believe that in my case
I'm really sorry to hear you weren't able to let yourself express your emotions. It's so tough pushing them down. I can relate to the frozen anger and know that it's not a simple process of reconnecting, but it can be done. I hope you find the space you need to allow yourself to be you and find peace.
Thank you Joe for sharing your incredibly articulate, honest, lived experience. Your story will inspire so many to re-think how they approach their distress.
This is so nice of you to say. I just want people to be able to think for themselves and make their own decisions. Let's hope for a more informed future.
Joe, your talk was incredibly moving and courageous-thank you for sharing such a deeply personal and powerful message. It really made me reflect: was your journey a result of a chemical imbalance, or is it something far more universal-a profoundly human experience? The way you navigated this topic with such emotion and strength is truly inspiring to me and I'm sure many others. You’ve opened a door for so many others to explore their own struggles with bravery and honesty. Bravo!
An amazing talk that makes sense and is evidence based for once. It’s time to change the narrative on mental health. Thanks Joe and everyone supporting his work.
Thanks so much for commenting Shona. Let's hope for a brighter, more infromed future.
Great talk Joe, thanks for sharing
Even with greater awareness these days of depression, I think there is still a lack of understanding. Sharing your experience of the help you were given and the help you needed will hopefully open a lot of eyes
Absolutely fantastic talk Joe, and thanks so much for sharing your story. Loved where you said about trying to get back to normal! This is absolutely the conversation we need to be having.
Thank you so much, Jon.
This was such a fantastic talk and really inspiring. I can definitely relate and so many gp's handle depression and anxiety in the wrong way. Therapy is the only thing that works, not anti depressants - especially long term. Thank you again for spreading awareness.
Thank you so much!
So proud of you and the courage to share your truth. Here’s to deconstruction of depression for good 🙌🏽
Super proud of you, Joe. Amazing delivery on such an important topic!
Really powerful message that is presented beautifully through your personal experience. The message is eye opening as I’ve certainly noticed some of those unhealthy coping mechanisms in my own life when things mount up, and it really highlights the need to a multifaceted approach.
Such a powerful message that the world needs to hear! You smashed it man 🙌🏽
Wow. This is so powerful Joe. Deeply thought provoking and delivered with such clarity, generosity and kindness
Beautiful told. Well done Joe, truly inspiring.
Congratulations Joe, an amazing TEDx Talk! We can't wait to watch how your journey continues to progress!!
Thank you for being so brave and speaking up to show us all a different alternative ❤ You delivered that speech so incredibly well & should be very proud x
Thanks for a powerful talk, Joe! Loved your allegory of 'Brown Leaf Disorder'.
Thanks Katrina. I literally spent a day trying to think of the best metaphor. The brown leaf won in the end and was actually much debated.
Thanks for sharing your story - great question: a chemical imbalance or a human experience? In my experience, a human experience, I can relate to a squashing of emotions. On reading my notes to my doctor in one of my hospital admissions I wrote "I don't like this [particular medication], it stops my reading, my music and scrapbooking". For me, the medication suppressed the emotions I wanted to feel in order to unravel the hurt inside and feel alive and well again.
Hi Hannah, thanks for commenting. It sounds like you've been on a brave and challenging journey, but in reading your short post I can see you've gained a lot of wisdom. It's brilliant you've commented, the more people share their experiences and gained wisdom, the more informed we can be to make our own choices. Thanks again for taking the time to watch my talk. Cheers, Joe
Well done, Joe. So inspiring to see you sharing your story in such a honest and powerful way.
There’s a long way to go with the NHS and mental health and it’s important that stories and messages like yours reaches the people who need to hear it.
Wish you all the best.
Hi Mike, so nice of you to take the time to comment. Your work has really been in my thoughts lately. I've been on a huge journey since we met. I'd love to go for that coffee soon. I feel like you need to do the next TED talk!
Love this mate - the bravery and rawness are massively inspiring ❤
Beautifully brave story, it feels so good to hear similar feelings in someone else's words
Yes for sure
Thank you so much. It means a great deal to know that you relate. It's tough speaking in public, but I really felt like I was speaking for many others too.
I really relate to this. An incredibly moving and powerful talk. Thank you Joe!
Great talk, Joe! Sharing your story is incredibly brave and there’s huge strength in vulnerability. Therapy has been critical in learning why I am the way I am and to really understand my feelings and behaviours. Keep up the good work!
Such a powerful talk Joe. I feel like I need to watch this once a week. Maybe more. Such a fresh standpoint. Many - me included - sometimes get put off on this topic but your standpoint is fresh, and understandable for all. Truly inclusive. Thank you for your vulnerability.
Thanks Molly, you're an absolute legend and I appreciate your help on this journey.
Such an inspiring and relatable experience that you share - you should be so proud of this talk Joe!
Well said, Joe. Really important to shift the narrative towards truth!
So happy for you Joe. Wish you every good thing man : )
What a great young man. Love to talk to him very interesting
Great talk. Very relatable. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for challenging the paradigm.
Well Done Joe! You articulate well the distraction and negative effects of a Bio-medical Model of depression and share your alternative story well of Hope that you are building with others - I also could Diagnosis Distracted me from making the links with what had happened to me and the positive changes I could make e in my social situation - I was on a lot of meds for 10 years and 7 inpatient admissions, but once I escaped the Bio-Medical Story I got into a better story with a go-ahead plot, go t married, raised children, got employment and got a life, and now it is 25 years later I am so glad I am no longer trapped in a Bio-medical Story and on all those numbing meds, Thanks for sharing your story !!
Fantastic Joe, a real eye opener and siren call that we need to start broadening our understanding and perspective on depression and mental health. My brother ❤
Great talk. Hope. We all need it.
Thank you sir.
Brilliant talk. Resonates a lot.
Thank you sooo much 😊
Great talk Joe, depression is a tough topic but you smashed it!
Thank you so much!
Joe so well said. Depression is a human experience. I have been with people who have been prescribed anti depressants because they are homeless or in poverty or living through abuse. Tablets are not the solution. People need to have informed choice and governments needs to be held account for the real causes
Great talk, really eye opening. Well done
Excellent!! Thank you for sharing your story.
I was told my depression was due to a chemical imbalance just a couple of weeks ago and prescribed antidepressants. It shuts down the conversation
Hi Lori, thanks for watching and commenting. I really hope you find the way that works for you. Everyone's experience is different and it's up to you how you relate to your experience. I really hoped my talk made you think, even if you disagree. I hope you find the healing you're looking for. Joe
@joetudor5065 I've decided not to take the antidepressants and seek out therapy or counselling instead. Your Ted talk helped me to make my decision. So thank you. Your talk was amazing by the way.
Well done Joe. That was amazing to listen to.
Thank you for taking the time to watch it. Your words really do mean a lot.
Thanks for sharing your story!
Inspiring talk. I hope it reaches many looking for different answers.
Thanks for sharing this! Really well said
Joe is a young lovely fresh faced guy who'd perhaps be listened to more by the NHS. At my age now 52 they don't listen cos ive just swallowed every pill i was given so desperate to get back to my normal.
I'm so sorry to hear that you don't feel listened to Valerie. I hope you can find space to feel heard, it's so vitally important.
one of the things that stands out here is this young man is well resourced enabling change - many are poorly resourced and therapy as well as the drugs can make things worse. Interesting how this is often missing from any account of change.
Wow, that's such a powerful compliment, thank you so much. It's so amazing to know you can see how much work went into this. Our system is so hard to navigate and the last year has been tough, but I've been supported by so many amazing people. The path to embodying our emotions is a difficult one. I agree with the therpay point too, so many intellectualise and don't feel, I certainly did for many years. Thanks again for taking the time.
Well done Joe!
Incredible talk Joe!
Thanks Naabil, I can't wait for your talk to come out too!
Amazing Joe! 🎉
Well said!
Brilliant!
Such a powerful talk and such important messages. We need to make space for ourselves to understand our personal experiences and the emotions which we're attempting to manage, by pushing them down or cutting them off, which lies behind what we call depression. For anyone interested its also useful to look at the extensive research and videos by Prof Joanna Moncrieff from UCL, who debunks the medical model of serotonin causing depression
Thanks so much Bethan. I couldn't agree more, Joanna is amazing. It's Joanna's work I cite in the talk.
Depression just don’t come. People causes them and it can worsen. 😔
I make a diep bow for Joe 👏👏👏
I've had the horrible D for 30 years on and off and not once was any brains checks done on serotonin dopamine etc. Why? Cos it too expensive for the govt to do so they just fling out prescriptions like cheap peanuts to a troop of monkeys 😢😢
So sorry to hear that Valerie.
Absolutely brilliant… Drugs are not the answer in most cases but they are prescribed at the drop of a hat…
Thus talk suggests that getting meducal help for mental dustress can be harmful. I agree and think there is plenty of evidence for that. While I think the format of ted talks does not invite debate I find the statement in the description of this talk dissappinting.
Hi Johny, thanks for taking the time to comment. I hear your point, I was disappointed too, but it's great that the message is getting out there.
What is the answer. Educate the Doctor or direct the individual to the people who can help?
Hi Andrew, thanks for taking the time to watch my talk and comment. I really wish there was a simple answer. I just wished I'd have been given the support to find my own answers at the start. I got it in the end and I hope you can find support in finding your own answers. Cheers, Joe
Nothing to do with a chemical imbalance,nothing at all.