I couldn’t agree with this comment more!!!! I love my 6 speed 2.5 gen. Eventually I’m gonna have a whole fleet of Diamond C trailers to pair up with it.
@@mikemiller9119 obviously no I don’t. I also don’t have a ridiculous truck payment or emissions to deal with and cause issues. No mountains here in Texas just plenty of hills.
@@MFW1996 I’ve had both. The emissions aren’t an issue anymore besides the industry collaborating to raise the prices of DEF. The gains the trucks today can haul with reliability are far better than these old trucks. Sure, they come with a hefty price tag, but I’d rather have a truck that will do all without even breaking a sweat and having so many less trips for major repairs. So you can either pay at the mechanic shop and get the same truck you began with or you can pay at the dealer and let your mechanic forget who you are.
@@mikemiller9119 I am my mechanic. Emissions are better now, but far from perfect. They are the main cause of a lot of major repairs these days. New trucks are capable, but I can do just the same with my truck and have more fun doing so listening to her actually breathe and shifting my own gears. A 5” straight pipe and a 6 speed are wonderful things, they keep a smile on my face. Couldn’t say the same in a brand new truck.
That is a beautiful trailer! Almost hated to see it get dirty! Great test! 5 tons overloaded I’m 100% impressed! I have see other videos of the design, materials, construction, care and concern of what your employees put into the building of the trailers. Clearly you guys are making the very best trailers in America! I would love to visit your factory some day.
Awesome I love my LPT I never doubted that it would dump it …. I saw the other video I personally think it was low on fluid and this is why his stopped on the third stage … Diamond C 💪!!!
The quarry once accidentally put 14K lbs of base rock in my 10K MDT. I could tell from my tires I had too much and was a little shocked when I saw the weight. I circled back around from the scale and was able to dump the excess NO PROBLEM. The telescopic lift never even flinched.
Thank you so much!! 10,000lbs (5 Tons) overweight very impressive. I WILL be placing an order! Diamond C is the truth. Thank you again wish I was there to hear what the engineers say I hope you guys have an amazing year.
Just picked up my 18000# LPT last week and had to haul 2 loads right away with it! First impressions are this trailer is going to exceed my needs! Which makes the wait and few extra dollars spent to build it exactly how I wanted extremely worth it. Good work Diamond C!!
Great video. I ordered that exact trailer and it just came in last week and haven't picked it up yet. But very excited and happy to see my set up in use and working great beyond it's designed limits. Thank you for all your videos and your involvement in the company. This will be my 2nd Dimond C trailer and excited to pick it up and add it to my business.
I bought my first Dimond C a few weeks ago. I mentioned it to a "pro" that I was introduced to and he called them garbage lol. I'm like have you seen one? EVER? About an hour later he recanted his statement!🤣 Thanks for the video!!
That is impressive. I have virtually the exact same trailer, even the color, but mine is the scissor. You’re exactly right when you said it would have quit as soon as you hit the up button haha. That being said it has been a kick ass dump trailer.
should have the max tipping capacity in front of the axles in the specs if you dont already, possibly a image with the capacity depending on the location
Diamond C are very good trailers. i have owned one built strong. They have however became way over priced . You can buy a premium built trailer to the specs you would like for the same money as a factory trailer. But this was a good test it shows how good they are.
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Now make an engineered neck deck over dump with the telescopic actuator, and that’ll be one sweet jack of all trades trailer, oh and what’s up with you’re website
Your telescopic hoist nearly unable to tip the dump vessel despite the front end being not loaded as much as the rear end. The same thing will happen even if the hoist is an under-floor scissor tipping hoist mainly because dump vessel "tipping pivot" is at the very tail end of vessel sub-frame. Moving the "tipping pivot" forward to create some two feet overhang will provide (defending on the length of the dump vessel) substantial "counter weight" to lessen the load on the front end telescopic hoist. For a low mounted dump vessel overhang is almost cannot be done because the rear end of the body and the hanging tailgate (pivoted at the top) will "dig-in" into the ground. For a forward pivot location to work in a low mounted body construction is to have a sloping upward floor towards the end of the body. The sloping upward floor however will require a greater tipping angle of the final end of the floor equal to the angle of repose of the materials to be handled.
Good eye! It is the product of the wide angle lens of the GoPro. At some points it appears that way but as does the top of the trailer too. 😁 The cylinder was definitively good and straight. 👍
I had 7 by 14 with 32 inch side loaded to top and never had a problem people would tell it is never going to dump hope Is brought shovels I would laugh at push the button and watch dump then at time I had 20,000 lbs in my trailer best I have ever owned
really appreciate your informative video's , a dump trailer has been on my list for a couple of years . obviously price is always a factor but with your tour of the paint line , telescopic lift , ect there isnt anyone on the market that comes close to your quality from what i see. it will be worth the extra expense for the quality . do you offer a 16' dump with a 3 way gate , telescopic cyl and a side door to load pallets and large boulders up front with forks ? will want a goosneck as well
Good eye! The cylinder remained 100% straight. What you’re seeing is actually an illusion due to the wide angle lens of the go pro. If you notice in some frames it appears that way and in others it doesn’t, same thing with the top rail or top edge of the trailer.
Could you add some kind of scale to the trailer so you know the weight at all time? We have them on our air ride trailers but wasn’t sure without air ride if they could be added.
I have had the issue that the person describes, where it won't push the smaller stages. If your battery is low, the pump has trouble pushing the other stages. I ran into this getting some loam (black dirt) and realized I should have plugged it in the night before.
My only concern was the extreme bow in the cylinder at full extension. It would seem that the cylinder could e entualoy failure due to the repeated bow and flexing under load.
Good eye! It is the product of the wide angle lens of the GoPro. At some points it appears that way but as does the top of the trailer too. 😁 The cylinder was definitively good and straight. 👍
diamond c trailers from mount pleasant, Tx?? lol i got loaded with a few trailers on thursday an i just delivered them to a small lot in vineland, NJ y'all's workers tied everything down it was nice just chillin
I have 2 Diamond C LPT dumps one is a 14’ bumper pull with 32” sides. The other is a 16’ gooseneck with 32” sides. Both are 10 gauge sides and floor. The bumper pull has 2 7k axles the gooseneck has 2 8k axles and both are telescopic. They haven’t ever not dumped any load on any stage. Great trailers.
Good eye! It is the product of the wide angle lens of the GoPro. At some points it appears that way but as does the top of the trailer too. 😁 The cylinder was definitively good and straight. 👍
I am looking for an 18 to 20 ft hydraulic dump trailer gooseneck in the only one I can find is Texas pride trailers that make one diamond c does not make a 18 or 20 ft
While I agree that tele is the only way to go, this "test" didn't debunk anything. The scale only gave the gross weight, and said nothing about that weight distribution. I'd prefer 3 weights, both full and empty, steers, steers and drives, then all 3 sets, to give us an actual view of the weight distribution. As the weight moves closer to the hinge point of the bed, basic laws of leverage make the rams job easier, as it's not lifting the entire weight of the load. The load was primarily in the back two thirds of the trailer. The loader did it right, even knowing it was going to be overgross. I've seen a few dump trailers fail, and in most cases, the load had settled in the bed, placing more of the weight on the ram. Other factors definitely contribute, such as the materials being hauled, age of the ram/pump, and electrical issues, but from the aspect of just weight, this "test" was pretty meaningless. I'll again state that I agree with tele over scissors. Every day, all day. Leverage from the front of the load reduces the force required to get the job done.
@@diamondctrailers Okay. Follow up to that, is there a bumper tow version of this dumper? I know the weights would be different and all of that, but my current truck is a half-ton and is not capable of any kind of 5th wheel. I'm hoping that I can find a dump trailer that I can tow that is within my limit. I have plans for a either a 3/4 ton or 1 ton SRW in the future, but hoping that the prices will come down...someday.
Great question! The mast butts up against the edge of the fork pocket and then can be secured there. It does remain on the side of the trailer but is recessed past the edge of the fender. 👍
To my knowledge, no company makes a DOD with telescopic. For standard 14-16ft lengths, scissor is perfectly adequate. I believe Ironbull has DODs on dealer lots (they did this summer fwiw) -
Even from a manufacture you are not greasing your ball. Great way to show people how to do things properly, but what can you expect from someone that drives and old dodge and thinks it’s better than the new dodge.
I bought a diamond c dump trailer in December. MDT - much lighter-duty than this one, but also with telescoping dump. Love it so far! What's happening here with the 3rd stage (also happens to me the other day) is that the pump is running out of hydraulic fluid. It has nothing to do with the ability of the system to dump a heavy load. People just need to check their hydraulic level, or (since most ppl won't do that), build the hydraulic tank with extra high capacity.
That is a sweet truck Mr. Crabb! I just bought a 2003 with twice as many miles and the no emissions 5.9 and 6 speed manual are a huge breath of fresh air compared to my first diesel a 2016 Duramax.
You guys, taking the time to do this video makes me want to go with a Diamond C for my next trailer. There are to many people who open their mouth with no basis. Love your Debunk!!!
No sure what's more impressive The trailer being so over loaded and it handled it like nothing. Trailer dumps it like it's nothing. Think we may need to see the where limit is of the trailer in a future video. Great trailers
Good test of almost double the rating. See why you need the super singles? lol The scissors will lift a big load if it is mounted far enough forward. However, that also limits the dump angle.
Not sure what type of "myth" you wanted to debunk, but that lift is wicked Slowww. No thanks. The reality is that this is a long trailer, so it needs the telescopic, just like an end-dump. For a regular trailer length I'll take scissor, thank you very much. 1- they're made in USA. 2- only one seal and glad to rebuild. 3- MUCH faster. 4- more rugged, resistant to bending over sideways. 5- Uses less than half the amount of oil and pumping... more dumps per charge. 6- Standard USA cylinders, you can buy a new one in 50yrs if you wish. 7- Much MUCH less exposed chrome = less seal torn, plus tucked under the bed for even less dust flying around. Be well ~
It explains the myth in the video 😁 Definitely a market out there for scissor lifts still but our experience over the last 6 years is more and more customers wanting the telescopic and overall are happier with it. The old saying applies of “Different strokes for different folks”. Thanks for stopping by and dropping your feedback. 👍
You are absolutely correct !! I am an old grain farmer , we had 9 old grain trucks . They All had scissor lifts with 16-20' box's on them with 4' sides hauling 350- 400 bushels of grain . Never had one fail !! They were all super old too. 50s thru 70s and used Hard !!
@@diamondctrailers Nope!, Diamond C, in fact You are wrong. Don't give me your "different strokes" bs, you just want to Sell trailers and will give the customers whatever internet fad is going on. If they want pink elephants to lift the loads you'll sell them them (and say "different strokes"). Please. How about you Acknowledge that ALL the telescopic lifts are China-made with multiple seals requiring much more battery pumping power, so that you can INFORM your customers instead of just profiting off selling them the option which is Cheaper for you to procure??
I’m impressed. I bought a big Tex 25DU (gooseneck dual tandem, 25,800gvwr) and owned it for 3 months before getting corporate to buy it back. It was a complete turd. Couldn’t lift most loads places in it, especially if you dared to go forward of the axles.
I have watched the video that showed this style trailer stall on third stage. However I read between the lines, you can clearly hear there was battery issues when they tested the dump. This is all in trick videos to make your product look better. John Deere is known for these fake videos of a Deere skid steer lifting 6500 pounds and than Cat, and Case Tryin to lift the same load and fail, however John Deere never pushes the load against the mast with the competition putting the center of gravity out more.. We call this tactic CNN or MSNBS.. lol Great video brother. My business owns two Load Trails goosenecks but I love the Diamond C quality as well.
By the sound of that pump it barely made that last stage. Do it again with a pressure gauge on there I bet it's within 100psi of relief and not moving. load it with just a bit too much tongue weight by accident and its game over. Also next time give the axle weights so we can verify where the load was actually placed.
Can you do a video showing how the axles and springs are affected by overloading? I have a 16' GN with the 207 and wonder how the setup will do if I overload it by 1,000-1,500 lbs (short haul 5-10 miles moving my mini-ex)
I'd be curious if the comments come from owners who have the "Premium Hydraulics" brand of telescopic lift? Those units were painfully slow and why I ordered my trailer with a 6/20 hoist. Looks like all the new trailers coming out have a Stillwell telescopic hoist. Maybe the Stillwells are stronger and faster? Still would like to see a video timing the cycles times of your hoist options. 5/15 vs. 6/20 vs. Telescopic vs. 13hp Honda gas powered telescopic.
The problem is the 2 gallon per minute pumps, including the gas powered one. The dump industry needs to address that. I added a second pump to mine, 16' x 22k PJ. As expected, it is twice as fast. I ordered it with two batteries, so I had that covered. For commercial use and one battery, the group 24 is just too small as is the group 27. For one battery, I recommend the group 31 w/950-1100 cca. If you want to see really slow, watch a big deckover dually with a twin cylinder scissors hoist.
@Nick Isaacs are you able to use just the one solenoid to operate both pumps? Allowing you to use just one dump switch and possibly one remote? Thanks for the tip on the group 31 battery. BTW my standard 5/15 hoist will dump much more than the trailers legal capacity and is 45 seconds faster on an up down cycle time than my 6/20 hoist. 45 seconds x 4 loads a day x 5 days a week starts to add up.🤷♂️
@@lukeshurtleff9770 I see no reason you can't use just one system for both pumps, that was my original plan but since the new pump had the control, I decided to keep it. That way you can use one or the other or both. I did install a hose between the tanks so they can self level. When you do a partial dump and set the bed back down you need to use just one control or it comes down too fast and will still overflow one tank. My equalizer hose is a little too small, 3/8". I agree on the 5" hoist being faster. That was on my 16' 14k Load trail, much quicker than my 6" trailers. It is all about the volume of the cylinders v/s the small pumps. FWI, if you accidently get too much on and it won't lift (it happens, Lol) I use a two foot tire iron between the frames and help it. It usually don't take much to help it get off the bottom. 2" or 3" and they are good to go.
It is sad to see someone who doesn't know how to run equipment loading trucks or trailers. My biggest complaint when I owned a dump truck company was they always put the new guy on loading our trucks and all the damage they created, down over the cab, busted sideboards and damaged beds. Two times they crushed my cab because , you know, staying away from the cab would be common sense
First off you need to load it like an idiot would load it, Too the front! You loaded the trailer properly and it dumped. I'd like to see it dump with a couple of those tons moved to the front of the trailer.
Good call! Definitely want to know what the weight per yard is. Keep in mind it varies depending on moisture content (which I’m sure you know 😁). The awesome thing about the LPT is that it is not nearly as persnickety about load placement and dumping as a scissor lift or dual cylinder setup is.
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Thumbs up for the 6 speed dodge. Couldn’t get me to trade my 6 speed 2nd gen for a new one. Just need a Diamond C to put behind it.
I couldn’t agree with this comment more!!!! I love my 6 speed 2.5 gen. Eventually I’m gonna have a whole fleet of Diamond C trailers to pair up with it.
Obviously you don’t own a new truck or haul heavy with mountains.
@@mikemiller9119 obviously no I don’t. I also don’t have a ridiculous truck payment or emissions to deal with and cause issues. No mountains here in Texas just plenty of hills.
@@MFW1996 I’ve had both. The emissions aren’t an issue anymore besides the industry collaborating to raise the prices of DEF.
The gains the trucks today can haul with reliability are far better than these old trucks. Sure, they come with a hefty price tag, but I’d rather have a truck that will do all without even breaking a sweat and having so many less trips for major repairs. So you can either pay at the mechanic shop and get the same truck you began with or you can pay at the dealer and let your mechanic forget who you are.
@@mikemiller9119 I am my mechanic. Emissions are better now, but far from perfect. They are the main cause of a lot of major repairs these days. New trucks are capable, but I can do just the same with my truck and have more fun doing so listening to her actually breathe and shifting my own gears. A 5” straight pipe and a 6 speed are wonderful things, they keep a smile on my face. Couldn’t say the same in a brand new truck.
That is a beautiful trailer! Almost hated to see it get dirty! Great test! 5 tons overloaded I’m 100% impressed! I have see other videos of the design, materials, construction, care and concern of what your employees put into the building of the trailers. Clearly you guys are making the very best trailers in America! I would love to visit your factory some day.
It is really cool to see a manufacturer do this to prove the equipment. Only in the great state of Texas! Thank you. I know what brand I am buying!
Own two Diamond C trailers. Getting ready to buy an FMax Gooseneck. Best trailers I’ve ever owned. Love the quality!!!
Awesome I love my LPT I never doubted that it would dump it …. I saw the other video I personally think it was low on fluid and this is why his stopped on the third stage … Diamond C 💪!!!
The quarry once accidentally put 14K lbs of base rock in my 10K MDT. I could tell from my tires I had too much and was a little shocked when I saw the weight. I circled back around from the scale and was able to dump the excess NO PROBLEM. The telescopic lift never even flinched.
Thank you so much!! 10,000lbs (5 Tons) overweight very impressive. I WILL be placing an order! Diamond C is the truth. Thank you again wish I was there to hear what the engineers say I hope you guys have an amazing year.
Awesome video theres no better way to test the product than a real life video not a fake comercial proud of you and your videos
I've owned 3 Texas Pride trailers. Diamond C hands down blows them away.
Just picked up my 18000# LPT last week and had to haul 2 loads right away with it! First impressions are this trailer is going to exceed my needs! Which makes the wait and few extra dollars spent to build it exactly how I wanted extremely worth it. Good work Diamond C!!
No doubt in my mind, Diamond C is the best!!
Great video. I ordered that exact trailer and it just came in last week and haven't picked it up yet. But very excited and happy to see my set up in use and working great beyond it's designed limits. Thank you for all your videos and your involvement in the company. This will be my 2nd Dimond C trailer and excited to pick it up and add it to my business.
Alex if u don’t mind me asking I’m looking into getting one just like this dump trailer. What was the price tag on it.
I bought my first Dimond C a few weeks ago. I mentioned it to a "pro" that I was introduced to and he called them garbage lol. I'm like have you seen one? EVER? About an hour later he recanted his statement!🤣 Thanks for the video!!
Every trailer that I own is a Diamond C. I will NOT own any other trailer,ever.
Awesome 👏
This was probably the best video they put out so far!
Thanks
Please do more videos like this showing the trailers in action! Love it
Congratulations! A video is worth 2000 words.
Thats a great tare weight for that trailer. Good video. I have an LPX 18k rated equipment trailer and we love it. very well built. Thank you!
Man that hats bad ass I like that man I got the shirt to match that keep up the good work man
What a awesome video, this is one hell of a great video, keep truckin.!!! John. MINNESOTA
That is impressive. I have virtually the exact same trailer, even the color, but mine is the scissor. You’re exactly right when you said it would have quit as soon as you hit the up button haha. That being said it has been a kick ass dump trailer.
I can see in the future the mother of all dump trailers from diamond c with twin triple stage telescopics.
should have the max tipping capacity in front of the axles in the specs if you dont already, possibly a image with the capacity depending on the location
biggest thing i have seen with overload dump trailers, are the rear axle and/or frames bending.
Diamond C are very good trailers. i have owned one built strong. They have however became way over priced . You can buy a premium built trailer to the specs you would like for the same money as a factory trailer. But this was a good test it shows how good they are.
Getting my 5x10 tomorrow, glad I chose the right brand 😎
Super nice Trailer! Thanks for sharing...😎👍
Good example good trailer
HELL I WAS ALREADY SOLD !!!!
Jacob if I purchased you a pair of gloves,,, would you where them?
I’ve noticed you unloading equipment hooking up equipment and you never where gloves. I know that you can afford the gloves but are you going to use them ?
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Now make an engineered neck deck over dump with the telescopic actuator, and that’ll be one sweet jack of all trades trailer, oh and what’s up with you’re website
Your telescopic hoist nearly unable to tip the dump vessel despite the front end being not loaded as much as the rear end. The same thing will happen even if the hoist is an under-floor scissor tipping hoist mainly because dump vessel "tipping pivot" is at the very tail end of vessel sub-frame. Moving the "tipping pivot" forward to create some two feet overhang will provide (defending on the length of the dump vessel) substantial "counter weight" to lessen the load on the front end telescopic hoist. For a low mounted dump vessel overhang is almost cannot be done because the rear end of the body and the hanging tailgate (pivoted at the top) will "dig-in" into the ground. For a forward pivot location to work in a low mounted body construction is to have a sloping upward floor towards the end of the body. The sloping upward floor however will require a greater tipping angle of the final end of the floor equal to the angle of repose of the materials to be handled.
Heck I love my 7.3l f250 2000 model I feel ya on that the older the vehicle the better mines still standing strong almost 300,000
Would have been interesting to see what the weight was over the axles on this load
I really like your trailer
Does the cylinder have a bow in it all the way up or am I seeing things
Great video thanks
Good eye! It is the product of the wide angle lens of the GoPro. At some points it appears that way but as does the top of the trailer too. 😁 The cylinder was definitively good and straight. 👍
I had 7 by 14 with 32 inch side loaded to top and never had a problem people would tell it is never going to dump hope Is brought shovels I would laugh at push the button and watch dump then at time I had 20,000 lbs in my trailer best I have ever owned
really appreciate your informative video's , a dump trailer has been on my list for a couple of years . obviously price is always a factor but with your tour of the paint line , telescopic lift , ect there isnt anyone on the market that comes close to your quality from what i see. it will be worth the extra expense for the quality . do you offer a 16' dump with a 3 way gate , telescopic cyl and a side door to load pallets and large boulders up front with forks ? will want a goosneck as well
What is the max dump angle? Do you have a wireless remote option? You guys build excellent trailers.
That cylinder looked extremely bowed when fully exteneded im assuming that was from being overloaded??
Good eye! The cylinder remained 100% straight. What you’re seeing is actually an illusion due to the wide angle lens of the go pro. If you notice in some frames it appears that way and in others it doesn’t, same thing with the top rail or top edge of the trailer.
nice demo, thx.
Could you add some kind of scale to the trailer so you know the weight at all time? We have them on our air ride trailers but wasn’t sure without air ride if they could be added.
I have had the issue that the person describes, where it won't push the smaller stages. If your battery is low, the pump has trouble pushing the other stages. I ran into this getting some loam (black dirt) and realized I should have plugged it in the night before.
Thank you for the feedback! That makes sense that it was a battery charge issue and not a lifting power issue. 👍👊
Wow/ It looked like the cylinder was bent a little bit could’ve been the camera angle that was under a heck of a load
Good eye! It was definitely straight.. that arch is an optical illusion due to the wide angle lens of the GoPro camera. 👍
Do you have any trailer like that used cheap for sale lol 😅
My only concern was the extreme bow in the cylinder at full extension. It would seem that the cylinder could e entualoy failure due to the repeated bow and flexing under load.
Good eye! It is the product of the wide angle lens of the GoPro. At some points it appears that way but as does the top of the trailer too. 😁 The cylinder was definitively good and straight. 👍
Is that 32” sides or 44” sides.
diamond c trailers from mount pleasant, Tx?? lol
i got loaded with a few trailers on thursday an i just delivered them to a small lot in vineland, NJ
y'all's workers tied everything down it was nice just chillin
I have 2 Diamond C LPT dumps one is a 14’ bumper pull with 32” sides. The other is a 16’ gooseneck with 32” sides. Both are 10 gauge sides and floor. The bumper pull has 2 7k axles the gooseneck has 2 8k axles and both are telescopic. They haven’t ever not dumped any load on any stage. Great trailers.
That telescope looks like it was bending under the weight. Is that just an illusion?
Good eye! It is the product of the wide angle lens of the GoPro. At some points it appears that way but as does the top of the trailer too. 😁 The cylinder was definitively good and straight. 👍
Awesome video
I am looking for an 18 to 20 ft hydraulic dump trailer gooseneck in the only one I can find is Texas pride trailers that make one diamond c does not make a 18 or 20 ft
While I agree that tele is the only way to go, this "test" didn't debunk anything.
The scale only gave the gross weight, and said nothing about that weight distribution. I'd prefer 3 weights, both full and empty, steers, steers and drives, then all 3 sets, to give us an actual view of the weight distribution.
As the weight moves closer to the hinge point of the bed, basic laws of leverage make the rams job easier, as it's not lifting the entire weight of the load.
The load was primarily in the back two thirds of the trailer. The loader did it right, even knowing it was going to be overgross.
I've seen a few dump trailers fail, and in most cases, the load had settled in the bed, placing more of the weight on the ram.
Other factors definitely contribute, such as the materials being hauled, age of the ram/pump, and electrical issues, but from the aspect of just weight, this "test" was pretty meaningless.
I'll again state that I agree with tele over scissors. Every day, all day.
Leverage from the front of the load reduces the force required to get the job done.
Good video, but you're also only dumping once. I'm sure the more you use it the less it will want to dump at the third stage.
Do you think you could turn up the rock and roll in the next video?
Did I see ramps at the rear of the vehicle? Like you could roll a tractor or other equipment into the dump trailer?
Good eye! Yes you did. It comes with ramps so you can haul a compact tractor, skid steer, excavator etc. 👍
@@diamondctrailers Okay. Follow up to that, is there a bumper tow version of this dumper? I know the weights would be different and all of that, but my current truck is a half-ton and is not capable of any kind of 5th wheel. I'm hoping that I can find a dump trailer that I can tow that is within my limit. I have plans for a either a 3/4 ton or 1 ton SRW in the future, but hoping that the prices will come down...someday.
so do you just shove the forks together and leave the cage and forks hanging off the side of the trailer?
Great question! The mast butts up against the edge of the fork pocket and then can be secured there. It does remain on the side of the trailer but is recessed past the edge of the fender. 👍
As long as you're taking requests I'll take a DOD telescopic, can't get one ordered right now
Dealers said they don't have any DOD allocations at this time
To my knowledge, no company makes a DOD with telescopic. For standard 14-16ft lengths, scissor is perfectly adequate. I believe Ironbull has DODs on dealer lots (they did this summer fwiw) -
I need one
Hi can you tell me the size and the GVWR on the trailer you used for the test .
This is an LPT 16’ long, 20,000lb GVWR. 👍
Can I get it in London
Nobody sells in Idaho I would to look at one
I gotta try that my was little little bit more than that and this trailer looks like a slaughter going up my camper a super Elenas good trailer
Wow that is so slow,mine would have dumped and lowered by that time,use a higher pump capacity with a higher powered motor and you would be👍
Look at that Boeing
A moritz would never lift that I know I have one they suck! My next one will be a diamond c!!
I am looking for a,18 foot gooseneck
the customer probably had all it load in the front of the trailer . no dump trailer or dump truck could dump its load if its all in the front.
Telescope all-day everyday lol
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Even from a manufacture you are not greasing your ball. Great way to show people how to do things properly, but what can you expect from someone that drives and old dodge and thinks it’s better than the new dodge.
Money where your mouth's at, still would be proud to proto test your step deck.
Bottle skeet
Why didn't the nay sayer provide a video of the trailer having trouble lifting?...cause it never happened. lol
Stanley dirt money made a video on your trailer and it didn’t dump on the 3rd stage
Hey Bobala! He actually used a Texas Pride Dump trailer not a Diamond C. He has a Diamond C equipment trailer.
Next video: how many 22K dumps can you get on one battery charge?
I say 2 to 3
I bought a diamond c dump trailer in December. MDT - much lighter-duty than this one, but also with telescoping dump. Love it so far! What's happening here with the 3rd stage (also happens to me the other day) is that the pump is running out of hydraulic fluid. It has nothing to do with the ability of the system to dump a heavy load. People just need to check their hydraulic level, or (since most ppl won't do that), build the hydraulic tank with extra high capacity.
That is a sweet truck Mr. Crabb! I just bought a 2003 with twice as many miles and the no emissions 5.9 and 6 speed manual are a huge breath of fresh air compared to my first diesel a 2016 Duramax.
The person who made the false claims increased your sales exponentially lol.
You guys, taking the time to do this video makes me want to go with a Diamond C for my next trailer. There are to many people who open their mouth with no basis. Love your Debunk!!!
No sure what's more impressive
The trailer being so over loaded and it handled it like nothing.
Trailer dumps it like it's nothing.
Think we may need to see the where limit is of the trailer in a future video.
Great trailers
Good test of almost double the rating. See why you need the super singles? lol The scissors will lift a big load if it is mounted far enough forward. However, that also limits the dump angle.
Not sure what type of "myth" you wanted to debunk, but that lift is wicked Slowww. No thanks. The reality is that this is a long trailer, so it needs the telescopic, just like an end-dump. For a regular trailer length I'll take scissor, thank you very much. 1- they're made in USA. 2- only one seal and glad to rebuild. 3- MUCH faster. 4- more rugged, resistant to bending over sideways. 5- Uses less than half the amount of oil and pumping... more dumps per charge. 6- Standard USA cylinders, you can buy a new one in 50yrs if you wish. 7- Much MUCH less exposed chrome = less seal torn, plus tucked under the bed for even less dust flying around. Be well ~
It explains the myth in the video 😁
Definitely a market out there for scissor lifts still but our experience over the last 6 years is more and more customers wanting the telescopic and overall are happier with it. The old saying applies of “Different strokes for different folks”. Thanks for stopping by and dropping your feedback. 👍
You are absolutely correct !!
I am an old grain farmer , we had 9 old grain trucks .
They All had scissor lifts with 16-20' box's on them with 4' sides hauling 350- 400 bushels of grain .
Never had one fail !!
They were all super old too.
50s thru 70s and used Hard !!
@@diamondctrailers Nope!, Diamond C, in fact You are wrong. Don't give me your "different strokes" bs, you just want to Sell trailers and will give the customers whatever internet fad is going on. If they want pink elephants to lift the loads you'll sell them them (and say "different strokes"). Please. How about you Acknowledge that ALL the telescopic lifts are China-made with multiple seals requiring much more battery pumping power, so that you can INFORM your customers instead of just profiting off selling them the option which is Cheaper for you to procure??
Great video nice trailer, but I have to stick with Double A Made in Alberta. But if I lived in Texas
I’m impressed. I bought a big Tex 25DU (gooseneck dual tandem, 25,800gvwr) and owned it for 3 months before getting corporate to buy it back. It was a complete turd. Couldn’t lift most loads places in it, especially if you dared to go forward of the axles.
I have watched the video that showed this style trailer stall on third stage. However I read between the lines, you can clearly hear there was battery issues when they tested the dump. This is all in trick videos to make your product look better. John Deere is known for these fake videos of a Deere skid steer lifting 6500 pounds and than Cat, and Case Tryin to lift the same load and fail, however John Deere never pushes the load against the mast with the competition putting the center of gravity out more.. We call this tactic CNN or MSNBS.. lol
Great video brother. My business owns two Load Trails goosenecks but I love the Diamond C quality as well.
By the sound of that pump it barely made that last stage. Do it again with a pressure gauge on there I bet it's within 100psi of relief and not moving. load it with just a bit too much tongue weight by accident and its game over. Also next time give the axle weights so we can verify where the load was actually placed.
Can you do a video showing how the axles and springs are affected by overloading? I have a 16' GN with the 207 and wonder how the setup will do if I overload it by 1,000-1,500 lbs (short haul 5-10 miles moving my mini-ex)
You’re the man. Great trailer design that delivers. 👍🏼
I'd be curious if the comments come from owners who have the "Premium Hydraulics" brand of telescopic lift? Those units were painfully slow and why I ordered my trailer with a 6/20 hoist. Looks like all the new trailers coming out have a Stillwell telescopic hoist. Maybe the Stillwells are stronger and faster?
Still would like to see a video timing the cycles times of your hoist options. 5/15 vs. 6/20 vs. Telescopic vs. 13hp Honda gas powered telescopic.
The problem is the 2 gallon per minute pumps, including the gas powered one. The dump industry needs to address that. I added a second pump to mine, 16' x 22k PJ. As expected, it is twice as fast. I ordered it with two batteries, so I had that covered. For commercial use and one battery, the group 24 is just too small as is the group 27. For one battery, I recommend the group 31 w/950-1100 cca. If you want to see really slow, watch a big deckover dually with a twin cylinder scissors hoist.
@Nick Isaacs are you able to use just the one solenoid to operate both pumps? Allowing you to use just one dump switch and possibly one remote?
Thanks for the tip on the group 31 battery.
BTW my standard 5/15 hoist will dump much more than the trailers legal capacity and is 45 seconds faster on an up down cycle time than my 6/20 hoist. 45 seconds x 4 loads a day x 5 days a week starts to add up.🤷♂️
@@lukeshurtleff9770 I see no reason you can't use just one system for both pumps, that was my original plan but since the new pump had the control, I decided to keep it. That way you can use one or the other or both. I did install a hose between the tanks so they can self level. When you do a partial dump and set the bed back down you need to use just one control or it comes down too fast and will still overflow one tank. My equalizer hose is a little too small, 3/8".
I agree on the 5" hoist being faster. That was on my 16' 14k Load trail, much quicker than my 6" trailers. It is all about the volume of the cylinders v/s the small pumps.
FWI, if you accidently get too much on and it won't lift (it happens, Lol) I use a two foot tire iron between the frames and help it. It usually don't take much to help it get off the bottom. 2" or 3" and they are good to go.
Is that trailer for sale? Now that it's used?
Great video! It is nice to see what they can handle if you accidentally put a little to much in.
It is sad to see someone who doesn't know how to run equipment loading trucks or trailers.
My biggest complaint when I owned a dump truck company was they always put the new guy on loading our trucks and all the damage they created, down over the cab, busted sideboards and damaged beds.
Two times they crushed my cab because , you know, staying away from the cab would be common sense
First off you need to load it like an idiot would load it, Too the front! You loaded the trailer properly and it dumped. I'd like to see it dump with a couple of those tons moved to the front of the trailer.
One thing for sure you came off talkin poo but that trailer backed every bit of it up diamond c did that trailer right
Dont see the point here, just because it works once doesnt debunk anything, totally pointless. A broken clock is right twice a day.
Wish I had it instead of my big Tex. Big Tex size shit.
When I go to pick up dirt at the yard i always ask what is the weight per yard. On a dump trailer load placement is key.
Good call! Definitely want to know what the weight per yard is. Keep in mind it varies depending on moisture content (which I’m sure you know 😁). The awesome thing about the LPT is that it is not nearly as persnickety about load placement and dumping as a scissor lift or dual cylinder setup is.
Do a torture test on the 20ft wdt gas power dump trailer !!!!
Plz
looking to buy my 2 trailers
Best video to date!! Looking good 👍
Notice he did not load it in the nose of the trailer lol