Gold extraction with BORAX for small-scale miners - Rather Rich & Healthy than Poor & Poisoned
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2011
- Learn how to make more gold with borax instead of mercury.
Description of a new environmentally beneign gold extraction method which will make use of mercury for gold extraction redundant.
Small time recreational Colorado gold miner here...
This video was impressive. Thank you.
After washing, the solid precipitate is basically composed of Gold (Gold compounds to be more exact) and other possible metals which present in oxide formation. Since borax tends to dissolve most metal oxides easily in its molten state, Gold particles will eventually sinter into a whole and separate itself from the slag containing impurities. The received gold is not entirely pure and needs further refinement to reach higher degree of purity.
This is awesome. It's like watching something out of the 19th century, AND it works.
Using borax when melting the concentrates to obtain the gold is a standard gold refining step. It does NOT produce more gold than using mercury, but is far safer.
Thank you, the people in Honduras need this, they dump tons of mercury in the rivers, such a disaster...
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omg ty so much for translating english to english for me. you are on another level!
Looking forward to trying this out. Thank you for sharing!
Use a Frensel lens from an old tv or projection device. It is a large magnifying "glass". The solar circle can reach 3,000 degrees f if focused or the circle size can be increased reducing the temperature to the required level.
The sun is free, generally available and environmentally friendly. It reduces labor costs by settingit up to run every day when the sun passes over. It can be readjusted many times a day for more production. It is lite and completly portable.
I like & appreciate that you are concerned with the health and welfare of the workers.
For that reason alone, I thank you !
i used both borax and mercury when im still a gold processor,i feel my body was slowly sick bec. of mercury,after many years i have left my work after 12 years and i feel that my body is not healthy anymore..
mercury is for extracting gold,borax is only used when your processing or cooking the gold
I hope you are well now
This is how you get people to switch. Show them there are less downsides and more upsides.
I started watching 12/02/2019, and it was awesome,, I'm a Miner too,, proud to be a Filipino,😎
I would like to visit you one day when it happens, you using this method practically
Awesome work in both subject matter and production, an inspiration.
Thanks for correcting me. The main reasons are still removing impurities and stopping the evaporation of fine flakes of gold
Pure Genius Thank You for Helping Mankind to Think!
This is a good method. It is a type of smelting. I am a small California miner and assayer. WHen they get enough money they should buy a small concentrating table and eliminate the panning step. Thanks for teaching this method to the miners.
How to distinguish a gold dust from gold mud.
Amazing short film! And very interesting!
safest way for our people, we need this in uganda.
what you mean? we have borax in south africa
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no.
MBMMLLCC ....
Shaker Table .... You can dream to own it... OR YOU COULD FIND OTHERS TO INVEST WITH.
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Do you do gold mining in Uganda?
Awesome and interesting video! Instead of wasting time trying to constantly harass and stop these people from mining (which doesn't work), this video is educating miners from all over the world to use a safe method of extracting the gold! We need minerals - can't "throw the baby out with the bath water, man!" And I'm going to link it to my website
I have been mining gold in Ca. since 1960. Worked with Mercury over the years, No health problems, Yet!
Good for u idiot!
I was familiar with the use of Borax as an agent in Capelling. This is good information for some of the DIY crowd to keep them away from trying other more dangerous methods, Bravo....
Those new magnets they have that stick to gold priceless .
Lol
Many, many, many years ago, I used borax and high heat to concentrate lead recovered from car battery plates. I found collecting wheel weights was more efficient until wheel weights were modified so that they don't fly off of rims as easily as they did 50 years ago. The lead was used to make fishing weights. That was just one of my one million hobbies.
I do not think that lead is used for wheel weights anymore. I think that all modern wheel weights are made out of zinc.
I'm a miner and I'm proud of it..
Good stuff.I do this as a hobby in the holidays.only get flour where I go and use a blue bowl for final concentrates then melt with borax
Yeah, these guys totally need a blue bowl. Problem solved.
Thanks for a very interesting video. Great share for me. I subbed to your channel.
Wow nice.....Thanks Josh
Good idea! I know a little about borax (very little) but I'm googling now - before the price of borax starts inflating.
wow... I love how they dubbed over the workers... whom are all speaking in English..
Way to go....check your holes and theres gold under the iron trash too.
Very Nice , Thank You for sharing as I want to try extracting Gold for myself...
I have a hand crank forge, wonder how well it will work for this application.
This is a very well documented video on using "Borax" . I think everyone knows about Mercury poisoning but I wonder how many knows about harming the environment ? This video could possibly save some environment. I know the dangers of Mercury, even a few you didn't disclose but didn't know the Borax process. Again, Thank you ever so much.
Everybody who heard of MINIMATA knows about mercury,for their very short life.(Downstream)
Very good! Thank you.
a great method easy and inexpensive 😊😊😊😊😊
Right on you guys thanks alot it's good to feel good 😊
Very nice. Thank you for sharring
(,") I agree with you cords mist, as a i am too a smale scale pocket miner, the mercury and borax are used in two separate ways. Before mercury came, we used that old technique of gathering gold dust' but takes time. Then came the Mercury which made gathering the golddust much easier. I thought i was gonna see a different type of technique, but its still the same type used by our forefathers.
VERY COOL IDEA-THANK YOU
thanks for your time,explaining borax uses for gold recovery,do you have anymore information about the subject?
Warren S
ybrandt
very interesting. Thank you.
Many thanks for your video.
Nice video. Thank and thumb's up bos...
I love seeing how other people solve their problems. Did you see his rock crusher? That's genius.🙂
Most enjoyed the adventure in borax ...
for purification, it works a treat!
iv had gold with steel impurity (i picked up the soft melted gold button with pliers and some welded to the cooling gold)
i gave it two more melts with borax and a blowtortch (MAPP Gas) and could watch as it melted and then blew off/away the impurities and left a beautiful gold.
the borax clean will leave the gold visibly brighter, than when in its native form with Iron and Silver impurities.
for very fine gold i take my time with a pan. even without a magnet i pan down to just gold.
its not hard, just takes time and patience.
Mercury will catch the very small and microscopic gold but how much $$$ is that micro gold worth vs how much $$$$$$$$$$$$ will illness cost to treat (plus as they say, contaminated environment for generations to come)
Nice!
Man, I just can't get enough of that background music!
INDEED
I think we are moving in the right direction but more research is required.Please continue to help pave the way for a mercury free mining environment. Thumbs up but I do have some questions.
so the round barrel rotates, its mixing the borax and the gold bearing materials together, when you run it across the felt carpet and it leaves the gold and other metals behind, the carpet is washed off, then they pan the material to get the gold. did i understand the process correctly? at no time was mercury used in this process correct?
What about LEAD? It’s heavy too.
Wonderful Video.
I have a question.
What material comes into the gold process to separate?
How to separate the gold from Arsenic?
I have over 1000 tons of arsenic with gold content!!!
I am happy if someone is in the position to help me out!
Thank you.
Good video mate,
Excellent stuff.....I teach the borax method to my miners however I teach them to conduct gold smelting in closed cycle and not with open blow torches and charcoal. Supply me your video and I will supply you mine....Cheers.
What does closed cycle mean?
What if the gold is mixed with other metals? Like lead or iron, what would borax do it how to use it then
Wow!!!! so many uses for plain old 20 mule team borax. great to keep insects out of the house too and great in the tub for inflammation. can also be taken internally.
daschundloverable Borax taken internally, Really? What is the benefit or purpose of internal consumption?
Chrispy Hatley to poop out the critters. MAN YOU SHOULD SEE THEM. KILLS EM ON CONTACT!!!! 1/8 tsp mixed with a glass of distilled water. Check out some of Hulda Clark's videos to see what I'm talking about. (I've seen more though). We all have them. LOL!!!! One time I forgot the ratio and did a heaping tsp with a glass.......thought it tasted a bit strong??? That's when a bunch of them came out and I only drank 1/2 the glass. Let me know if you try it.
You can also do honey with turpentine. (I bought mine from Diamond Forest or is it Forest Diamond?, because I wasn't too sure about buying it at the hardware store. The ratio is 1 part turp (which is only pine sap) to 3 parts honey. I blend it by the jar. DO NOT, I REPEAT, take more than 2 tsp/day. You should only take one, but it tastes soooo good, I one time took 3 tsp. All that happened was I vomited out the water.
Any questions, feel free to write.
This Chrispy critter has been chewin on your words all night long! I cannot determine if that's a dare, or a proposal?!... LOL!! You're quite the caution ain't ya?? Hmmm, can't all that outta my thought's, reckon I need a "lab-partner"or "guide" for such adventure's......................
Thank's for that! ;^))
Many questions, feel free as well.
Chrispy Hatley LOL!!! Start with the borax. You'll find it in the laundry aisle. It's about $4.00/box. REMEMBER, just 1/8th tsp. with DISTILLED WATER. IT'S GOT TO BE DISTILLED. Let me know!!!
Also, did you watch any of Hulda Clark's videos? Check out those critters. Her technique is different and way more expensive. Mine works better and is less expensive.
LOL!!!
Very effective and more safety for human and Enviroment.
how do u use borax and gold flakes and it turned black with little gold flakes in it why?
Borax used when smelting helps stop gold going up in smoke .
the interesting information,here, for me, would be: looking at the nugget he obtained (looks clos to 1oz) how many hours of work and how much stone extracted and ground to dust??
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How much soap do you use? what do you grind it with and for how long?
what's the title of the background music?
Reza Noei anybody ever find out about the music?
Seems to be the answer, may have to try this myself...
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borax is used to cook a extracted gold from the gold ore,mercury is used to exract gold from the gold ore by mixing it to the ballmil
They arnt talking about lode mining. They are talking about free gold and referring to amalgamated gold in pyrite as black sand.
i love this video.
Very interesting.
at the grocery store, in the aisle where laundry detergent is. It's a green box with "BORAX" written on the front.
How would you approach: Nano particles of Platinum and Palladium material (keyword "NANO" size) mixed in fine dirt? I have pounds and pounds of this material, but I'm unsure to what the best approach would be to refine it. I'm interested in the Fire Assay approach. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Gravity separate down to heaviest material (pan) then follow a standard fire assay I would guess.
@@74KU Nano makes that difficult.
@@downyourtube Perhaps bulk smelting in the fashion of how black sand is treated, screen down as fine as you can given the size of the metals you are after .constantly enrich a collector metal button without the assay (until you are ready to reduce the button away)
@@74KU (the whole truth). I found a area where the extracted (by manual and auto) soot from diesel trucks park. Lots of it. I believe it contains precious metals from the exhaust stacks. If I'm right, which I believe I am.. there are ounces upon ounces of precious metals in this. There's even a drain that is packed full of it (even finer).
So your reply above is good, but I must wonder as light as this stuff is.. how will it interact in the furnace with collector metals/borax etc. Will it melt into the collector metals (who knows)?
I'm anxious to see the results. (I think I found a platinum mine lol).
@@downyourtube Small scale testing may be in order. perhaps on the order a pound or so. Maybe chewing up the collector metal with a file or sander to produce small particles of collector and mix it all very well before adding the charge to the furnace should give the best chance of ensuring all the chemicals (flux, collector, metals etc.) are as evenly distributed as possible. I think there was another channel (codyslab?) that played with catalytic converter recovery, MBMMLC also touched on cat converters I think (in that instance silver and copper gave a slight increase on yield from memory)
hmm pretty interesting, but it's very complicated because this method is rudimentary with small percentage to extract 'money' :D
I’m not understanding what the hand soap was for. I’ve never seen that used during gold processing before.
it breaks water tension fine gold will float off on top of the water
Which clay and who provide this
For other people.
Small scale minning is a hard job, i work in that place before
Can this mining technique als be used for gold mining in the Amazon basin?
You are absolutely correct. Interesting how this video received so many likes, apparently no one who watched it actually had any hands on gold mining experience.
the Art of Respect,thanks! Redding Califonia
well i guess this skill would be good if i was planing on moving back to a forest of some kind. come to think of it, can this set up be done in regular neighborhoods with city dirt? the sun shines every where u know...
Sir were your location, in the phillipines or outside ph?
Wow.! awesome...will this borax method work for pgms as well? I have platinum, gold, rhodium,palladium, and iridium. It's already milled to 500 mesh and I have 8 tons already milled. 100 lbs is processed and ready for the fire?
Tq for valuable information
Take Peter Appel's word for it, he's a "Borax Expert"
carpet rinsing seems lossy. be nice if there were a way to spin rinse them.
So gold sticks to borax? I don't get this kung foo video?
+Pomona Dawgpound No, the impurities stick to the borax. When the gold cools down, the impurity laden borax can easily be removed from the gold since it is on the outside of the gold. If you quench the gold in water, the borax cracks away. If you let it cool slowly, you can just hit it with a hammer to crack the borax away.
Sounds like the music in the Home Depot commercial
Tnx a lot!
what kind of borax they used? it is possible to use borax brazing flux?
jayr san juan b
i have several jars of shell gold used for gilding i may have around 50g circ 22kt as a medium for painting sells at £90 grm and in fine shell powder form how could i sell this and could i smelt it but would only get £30 grm scrap any ideas
I hope you saved it
Without a flux most of your Gold will actually evaporate away. Also borax will make the Gold purer by removing many impurities. They must sell their buttons at a local market for the best price, because a good refiner would take the gold straight from the pan and pay you according to the values in it, minus the refining fee..
No, gold does not evaporate. If you weld steel it does not evaporate. Gold is a metal you would have to heat it to its boiling temperature and then use a high vacuum pressure to "evaporate" it.
Gold will boil and evaporate at 5,370 deg F, though there is no risk on a charcoal fire if you use an oxygen/acetylene torch, which can exceed 6,000 deg F you can evaporate gold.
susan mccartney not even true. Oxy/acet burns at
Gold can not be destroyed evaporated or any thing else
Thenkyo very good 🌹🌹🌹
I didn't know that there were borax experts around.
thank you
Is this taken from the philippines?
Using Borax can reduce the melting temperature required to make the gold pool together. This is true with forging steel as well...if you want the metal to melt and adhere to itself easier...requiring less time and less fuel from the blow torch.
Using Borax as shown will only remove "oxidized" impurities. It will not "refine" gold to a pure state by removing alloyed metals mixed with the gold. Borax or boric acid will both produce the same results.
Blacksmith supply, most hardware stores that supply farriers and smiths, some feedstores also - not sure of the purity of borax 'soap' sold in the laundry aisle but probably worth checking it out.
That's where the purest borax comes from. And if by chance it's not pure the borax sticks to impurities. Gold sticks to itself.
It’s so pure, I consume it 😃
what's the chemistry behind it?
Miners: *gets in contact with mercury*
Mercury: Your entire bloodline belongs to me
Infornative
I consume borax and drink a pinch in distilled water once per day and haven't fallen ill in 17 years ever since
the borax wasent used for the extraction just the smelting/refining part. the title is missleading
U are so right about that.
no,some borax is used in the water to get rid of the surface tension so everything sinks better.
exactly lol
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Great information. Thank you.
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