This has to be The Best, "Side by Side" comparison, I've ever seen. You took the descriptor, LITERALLY; love it. I'm currently using the Bondi 8's (AWESOME!). Was advised to check out the This model. The GTX option has me intrigued. I'm actually looking for all day walking/standing comfort, but a slightly lower/shorter heel stack and different colorways. I think the GTX model is the direction I'm leaning. My time in the Marine Corps, has taught me to APPRECIATE the Gortex functionality. Thank You for this Outstanding Review! Semper Fidelis
Great review. With winter colder weather upon me, I might pick up a pair of these. I've definitely stepped in a puddle or two and the gortex would be welcome.
I bought a NB 2002r GTX model as well as a regular NB 2002r without GTX. The one with GTX is also much stiffer. It confuses me greatly as I was told it is the exact same midsole. Interesting to see your video showing similarities to what I am also experiencing though the model and brands are different.
The GTX uppers can contribute to making a shoe stiffer but here it is clear the underfoot is firmer, more stable, stiffer and more rocker based (in a good way for me)
Morning, great review. I Wil be travelling to Florida, disney world for 2 weeks, forecast looks rainy. Will these be to hot in 80 degree weather? Not sure what other options I have
I think they will too warm. I would go a regular shoe with a light breathable more open draining quick dry upper. Salomon Aero Volt comes to mind: www.roadtrailrun.com/2023/06/salomon-running-aero-volt-multi-tester.html
Not sure if I missed it during the video. But is this true to size? Every GTX shoe that I’ve purchased in my normal size was too small. I think it’s time for me to start going a half size up. What do you think for this shoe?
Sam...more enjoyable ride overall? Clifton 9 GTX or the New Balance 1080 v13? I'm currently going back and forth between the 2....with the cold Nebraska winter forthcoming, I'm thinking the added protection of the GoreTex might be a good way to go
1080v13 is considerably softer and has a stretchy comfortable and not as secure upper. GTX will give you more winter protection that is for sure and also a more responsive and stable ride.
Hi. I buy them in size 9 US , 27cm, my first Hoka. Butt comper with my Mizuno ( 9 US 27.5cm ) and Adidas ( 9 US 27 cm) Hoka are half-size smaller in the same size and in the middle feel tight probably because of gtx. I made a return and buy 9.5 (27.5) , what do you think? the half size is gonna be to much in length and in the same time the bigger size is not gonna change to much the middle tight?
Sam, it looks like the GTX is a little more rounder and wider in the forefoot? Did you feel like you were sloppy in the forefoot? I wear the 10D in the clifton but it looks like the GTX would be wider.
It should be to a point.. without a gaiter water can come over or splash over the top. I generally like GTX more as it is warmer in cold conditions than for waterproofing,. Here the stiffer upper gives me a better if not quite as comfortable foot hold.
@@markoljustina C9 GTX is a good choice as a daily trainer that is more stable than regular. Instead of Peg40 GTX also look for sure a Peg Trail 4 GTX. Very fine on road and better rubber grip than standard Nike.
Need a stable shoe for warm weather conditions. Should be not too bouncy. The clifton gtx would be great i think, but is the gtx too warm? Any orher suggestions?
It fits the bill but for summer months warm, other 3 seasons fine. Others to consider New Balance 860 v14 and Saucony Guide 17. Reviews here: www.roadtrailrun.com/p/blog-page.html
Maybe you got false pair with production error? Here is only upper changed, same foam...how come you claim its different midsole? Should be identical...... question- how is fit? Gtx usually less room and more snug..strange u have diff feeling again 😮😅
9:52 - A missed testing opportunity for the Gore Tex right there :D
Great review, Thx!
Thank you! I thought I was going mad with how different the gtx felt! They felt much tougher on my knee.
This has to be The Best, "Side by Side" comparison, I've ever seen. You took the descriptor, LITERALLY; love it.
I'm currently using the Bondi 8's (AWESOME!). Was advised to check out the This model. The GTX option has me intrigued. I'm actually looking for all day walking/standing comfort, but a slightly lower/shorter heel stack and different colorways.
I think the GTX model is the direction I'm leaning. My time in the Marine Corps, has taught me to APPRECIATE the Gortex functionality.
Thank You for this Outstanding Review!
Semper Fidelis
Thanks so much! Compared to Bondi a livelier lighter shoe here
EXCELLENT VIDEO, SIR! Thank you! Very thorough! I own the 9's and will add the GTX variant as well thanks to your review!
Great comparison. I love when you talk about the attractions and history of the places where you are running!
Thanks! Neat places where I run. Will do more!
Great review. With winter colder weather upon me, I might pick up a pair of these. I've definitely stepped in a puddle or two and the gortex would be welcome.
I bought a NB 2002r GTX model as well as a regular NB 2002r without GTX. The one with GTX is also much stiffer. It confuses me greatly as I was told it is the exact same midsole. Interesting to see your video showing similarities to what I am also experiencing though the model and brands are different.
The GTX uppers can contribute to making a shoe stiffer but here it is clear the underfoot is firmer, more stable, stiffer and more rocker based (in a good way for me)
Thanks for the great Reviews, greetings fromm Hamburg!!
Odd I found my gtx larger than normal Clifton definitely need to try on first
Morning, great review. I Wil be travelling to Florida, disney world for 2 weeks, forecast looks rainy. Will these be to hot in 80 degree weather? Not sure what other options I have
I think they will too warm. I would go a regular shoe with a light breathable more open draining quick dry upper. Salomon Aero Volt comes to mind: www.roadtrailrun.com/2023/06/salomon-running-aero-volt-multi-tester.html
A diferent comparison. Like to RoadTrailRun. A nice day for everyone. 🌞🏃🌞
Not sure if I missed it during the video. But is this true to size? Every GTX shoe that I’ve purchased in my normal size was too small. I think it’s time for me to start going a half size up. What do you think for this shoe?
I bought a half size bigger
I just received a pair today. They felt pretty tight in my normal size :(
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The regular Clifton 9 is the best Clifton ever!
Just as the 8 was close to the worst...
Sam...more enjoyable ride overall? Clifton 9 GTX or the New Balance 1080 v13? I'm currently going back and forth between the 2....with the cold Nebraska winter forthcoming, I'm thinking the added protection of the GoreTex might be a good way to go
1080v13 is considerably softer and has a stretchy comfortable and not as secure upper. GTX will give you more winter protection that is for sure and also a more responsive and stable ride.
Hi. I buy them in size 9 US , 27cm, my first Hoka.
Butt comper with my Mizuno ( 9 US 27.5cm ) and Adidas ( 9 US 27 cm)
Hoka are half-size smaller in the same size and in the middle feel tight probably because of gtx.
I made a return and buy 9.5 (27.5) , what do you think? the half size is gonna be to much in length and in the same time the bigger size is not gonna change to much the middle tight?
Sam, it looks like the GTX is a little more rounder and wider in the forefoot? Did you feel like you were sloppy in the forefoot? I wear the 10D in the clifton but it looks like the GTX would be wider.
It is clearly wider but not sloppy as the mesh +GTX makes the mesh more rigid and supportive. Not a soft fit but a very good one front to back
What happened to the color of the sole? Is it dirty, is it the paint coming off the sun, or maybe after washing with some detergent
???
Is the clifton 9 slip resistant?
Maybe the gtx is better as a work shoe than the regular🤷
Yes for sure. More stable and if you need it waterproof
@RoadTrailRun thanks 🙏. It's never a drawback in the winter here in Norway 🤭. Are they as breatheble as the regular?
Less because of GTX but you won't regret GTX in winter and fine in more moderate temps as well
@RoadTrailRun thanks for your help 🙏
will it be waterproof when the snow starts to melt ? And on heavy rain?
It should be to a point.. without a gaiter water can come over or splash over the top. I generally like GTX more as it is warmer in cold conditions than for waterproofing,. Here the stiffer upper gives me a better if not quite as comfortable foot hold.
@@RoadTrailRun ok; i understand, thank you; i am fast runner but wearing C9 for walking and want to buy C9gtx for winter! or to wait for Peg40 shield?
@@markoljustina C9 GTX is a good choice as a daily trainer that is more stable than regular. Instead of Peg40 GTX also look for sure a Peg Trail 4 GTX. Very fine on road and better rubber grip than standard Nike.
@@markoljustina for me its more about drop 5 mm vs 10 mm....i prefer 5mm
@@slavasss2189 agree
Need a stable shoe for warm weather conditions. Should be not too bouncy. The clifton gtx would be great i think, but is the gtx too warm? Any orher suggestions?
It fits the bill but for summer months warm, other 3 seasons fine. Others to consider New Balance 860 v14 and Saucony Guide 17. Reviews here: www.roadtrailrun.com/p/blog-page.html
Maybe you got false pair with production error? Here is only upper changed, same foam...how come you claim its different midsole? Should be identical...... question- how is fit? Gtx usually less room and more snug..strange u have diff feeling again 😮😅
Absolutely clear on the midsole differences, flex and fit. Doubt it was a production error.
As well as ride differences. That is why I do not guess or rely on memory but do A/B tests when I can
Are they wide fitted ?
Wider than regular Clifton and with decent if non stretch volume. But not a wide wide shoe.
No idea what this all means
Lol I’m right there with you brother