I Was A Victim Of Marriage Fraud | Unpacked with Relebogile Mabotja - Episode 61 | Season 3

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2021
  • A guest shares her story on how being married fraudulently affected her life.
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Комментарии • 140

  • @phyllismagunde5844
    @phyllismagunde5844 2 года назад +44

    This lady deserves not only a verbal apology, but compensation as well from Home Affairs. They messed up her life. This guy who married her must also be pursued and brought before the courts.

  • @businessdrivebywhadewillia9218
    @businessdrivebywhadewillia9218 2 года назад +61

    truly truly unfortunate and shocking story. The fact that it took 15 years for this to be solved is unbelievable.

  • @LethoHali
    @LethoHali 2 года назад +26

    The least home affairs could’ve done is give her her ID free of charge! 🥺🥺🥺. Shocking that they still charged her for that! 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @TuaKalola
    @TuaKalola 2 года назад +48

    OMG, this is so shocking and eye opening. I gotta make a turn at Home Affairs, because yoh🙆🏾‍♀️🙆🏾‍♀️🙆🏾‍♀️

    • @NN-id8bk
      @NN-id8bk 2 года назад +3

      I’m surprised it’s still happening in 2021. More than 20 years after such scams started

    • @TuaKalola
      @TuaKalola 2 года назад +2

      @@NN-id8bk I know right! It’s unbelievable.

    • @mdumiseninsibande3071
      @mdumiseninsibande3071 2 года назад +1

      Eh I need to check 😂

  • @freckles8932
    @freckles8932 2 года назад +11

    She needs legal advice. She can sue home affairs and be rich overnight

  • @kagisomamabolo6775
    @kagisomamabolo6775 2 года назад +30

    Very common, my identity was also stolen at Home Affairs. I only found out about it when I had to apply for a passport. Almost lost a scholarship to study abroad because of this issue.

  • @NdinaNehemia
    @NdinaNehemia 2 года назад +34

    I’m starting to think Home Affairs offices are all the same stressful. I’m Namibian and a trip to home affairs office is always STRESS😩

  • @spendtimereading
    @spendtimereading 2 года назад +12

    This is heartbreaking. The things humans do to other humans. Wow. I pray this woman gets help.

  • @constancemaluleka9687
    @constancemaluleka9687 2 года назад +37

    Shuuuu what a story. I personally think she was not suppose to pay R140 for the ID and deserves some compensation 😔.

  • @jae-realistic
    @jae-realistic 2 года назад +27

    I can relate in terms of being married to a stranger, I was only lucky in the sense that I had proof of not being in the country when the so-called marriage took place. First response I got from a HA official was that..." you ladies like to take money from these foreigners then you come back and say you don't know them"🙄🙄 my passport was what saved me.

    • @LethoHali
      @LethoHali 2 года назад

      Oh my goodness! Shocking that the official said that! 🥺😳

  • @clonapsbethe1261
    @clonapsbethe1261 2 года назад +9

    Employers please employ this woman , please!!! please!!! please!!! please! I beg you.

  • @bonganisibeko4943
    @bonganisibeko4943 2 года назад +10

    Grand grand this show is all about unpacking women issues, mostly health issues.
    I love it still❤

  • @londziwekhoza6651
    @londziwekhoza6651 2 года назад +14

    Even when married, you are not forced to change your maiden surname.Whilst she was waiting for investigatio she could have retained her own surname.DHA will toss you around if you arent informed.

    • @Thulz.
      @Thulz. 2 года назад +1

      I think you said this while sitting in a couch and sipping a cup of coffee, but if you were in her shoes you'd speak otherwise. It was not the matter of just getting the ID, remember that she was with her husband at The Home Athives, carrying an infant child, they are getting married the next day and the most shocking news broke in and her husband get angry and leave her right on the spot. So can you imagine all this trauma??? So stop thinking with your ass.

  • @mamellomotaung4124
    @mamellomotaung4124 2 года назад +5

    Took almost three years for mom to get a divorce from being married to someone she doesn't know.. and a another year for home affairs to clear the surname on their system" and give her another ID with her surname.. She had her first ID made in 1990

  • @yourbestdailymotivations_137
    @yourbestdailymotivations_137 2 года назад +4

    I am also a victim of that fraud,they said I must look for him, home affairs is refusing to help me the person can't be found,he even registered tv licence under me 🤷

  • @tshegofatsokgokong3994
    @tshegofatsokgokong3994 2 года назад +9

    That should've been a huge shock . I'm so sorry 😞

  • @irenedamases138
    @irenedamases138 2 года назад +8

    So sad man 😭😭May God be with this lady Amen ❤️❤️

  • @neosefudi8785
    @neosefudi8785 2 года назад +2

    I am sorry about your situation. It is frustrating, depressing, and draining. The physical, financial, and emotional trauma of walking up and down with no help is Frustrating!
    I am struggling with my finger print. Home Affair cannot help me. 😪

  • @mahlatsemasha2308
    @mahlatsemasha2308 2 года назад +9

    I can’t imagine how many women go through this and no one is held accountable. I’m glad she persisted and took her surname back. Sucks that this thing has held her back so much in life💔

    • @hlatse98
      @hlatse98 2 года назад +3

      I’m sorry for off-ramping… Every time I see your comments I wonder when I left a comment, then I’m like “oh wait” 🙈

    • @mahlatsemasha2308
      @mahlatsemasha2308 2 года назад +1

      @@hlatse98 Sorry😂😂😭

  • @sanelisiwetonga7939
    @sanelisiwetonga7939 2 года назад +10

    Please share the website where we can check if one is married or not, with all this fraud going on we can never be too sure.

    • @Thulz.
      @Thulz. 2 года назад

      Obviously there's no website for that other than going to HA branches.

  • @angieblazing
    @angieblazing 2 года назад +13

    The fact that your Fiance dropped you when you needed him the most, good riddance

  • @msm5887
    @msm5887 2 года назад +11

    We found out that my cousin was “married” when she passed away, in the week of funeral arrangements. But in her case (people who were close to her revealed) it was believed that she was in on it, she was compensated by the guy, to get South African citizenship… it was a MESS 🙆🏾‍♀️🙆🏾‍♀️🙆🏾‍♀️🙆🏾‍♀️.

    • @nonhlanhlazia5995
      @nonhlanhlazia5995 2 года назад

      I'm not surprised it does happen they collect the money every month.
      Families they will never know until the person passed away shocking news will be reveal in home affair when family collecting death certificate

  • @bongiebongs1077
    @bongiebongs1077 2 года назад +4

    Tjooo, what a story!

  • @elizabethleboho9752
    @elizabethleboho9752 2 года назад +8

    Why couldn't she get divorced on grounds of absence? Home affairs staff was in it 💰💰💰

  • @ebonytriumph3816
    @ebonytriumph3816 2 года назад +3

    This can be greatly reduced. Simply putting systems in place...

  • @hlatse98
    @hlatse98 2 года назад +7

    So unbelievable that it took 15 years to resolve this issue… What a painful story 💔

  • @trustingnobody628
    @trustingnobody628 2 года назад +1

    Leading questions.

  • @nonzwakazikhathi1214
    @nonzwakazikhathi1214 2 года назад +1

    This lady deserves compensation, the system is so fraudulent, r there no human rights lawyers to help fight her case?very sad

  • @pheladinare2876
    @pheladinare2876 2 года назад +7

    Your life was messed up by home affairs and they actually must pay you for wasted life

  • @ncisept5900
    @ncisept5900 2 года назад +1

    One needs to have lawyers for these things.... Imagine being tossed up and down by HA.

  • @bukekanohashe6588
    @bukekanohashe6588 2 года назад +2

    Wow! This is shocking 😱

  • @tanyasnyman-stanford8012
    @tanyasnyman-stanford8012 2 года назад +4

    These people just always find a way to dodge the system!

  • @FirstLadyG
    @FirstLadyG 2 года назад +1

    There must be so enemy at home office providing info to people. Fraud and corruption. All must be arrested at this home office affairs to resolve this.

  • @makubumoloi8463
    @makubumoloi8463 2 года назад +3

    I'm nt a victim but my sister was a victim of identity theft.... Dealing with SAFPS is nie pap and vleis ya'll, the credit part imagine your accounts having credit debit orders and credit being messed bcz of things u dnt knw.... Be safe guys

  • @mtnewt1
    @mtnewt1 2 года назад +1

    So grateful not to live in a place that. That's horrible!!! And they should have never charged her 1 penny for any records!!! It's only up from here ❤

  • @annwanjiku5923
    @annwanjiku5923 2 года назад +2

    My favorite interview ever

  • @sisapapiyana3962
    @sisapapiyana3962 2 года назад

    Same thing happened with my aunt. She only found out after her UIF could not be released, and when I investigated, we founded out that she was married without her knowledge to a nigerian surname. The marriage was annuled. Very difficult tedious process.

  • @nyakalloramapepe6073
    @nyakalloramapepe6073 2 года назад +3

    This is eye opening.....I need to be extra careful

    • @Thulz.
      @Thulz. 2 года назад

      Unfortunately there's nothing you can do to prevent such crimes. Just pray to be always on the greener side.

  • @sublime1061
    @sublime1061 2 года назад +2

    What a frustrating story! Why didn't she apply for annulment of the marriage? Coz then the onus would be on the 'fake husband,' to prove consummation!

  • @phelisatyali579
    @phelisatyali579 2 года назад +12

    What I don't understand as someone whose married with this unknown person with nothing of his name. This person should be registered somewhere as an employee or owner of some business cause many who does this it's their way of wanting to get green card or citizenship. She needs to find a tracer or private investigators to follow this everywhere

    • @phelisatyali579
      @phelisatyali579 2 года назад +3

      At the same time I do have a feeling those fraudsters must have a link with someone who knows the lady and using her details to scam. This case is one of many out there, some people still struggling with the same challenge.

    • @masanarikhotso5780
      @masanarikhotso5780 2 года назад +5

      ...... and this fraudsters are working with officials as well😥

    • @tobybenko2434
      @tobybenko2434 2 года назад

      When "home affairs" couldn't even help her in 15 yrs ...now how is she gonna afford to hire a private investigator livin in shack ? The gov should be held responsible to figure out what happened and bring everyone involved to book...this is their citizen after all... Probably useless sayin all this anyway as she probably won't even read any of these comments because of not having access to youtube ...living in a shack. Such a horrible system !

    • @danikalunga9846
      @danikalunga9846 2 года назад

      How can u have a marriage certificate with only one ID , without your partner's ID! Means u married to yourself!

  • @SuperFoodParents
    @SuperFoodParents 2 года назад +2

    The father of her first child should be ashamed of himself; he neglected his child and family😲She deserves compensation and the man who claimed to be married to her should have been sought after to help clear things

  • @thebusinessstrategistbw816
    @thebusinessstrategistbw816 2 года назад +6

    At this rate, one day someone will go to home affairs and discover they are dead and buried

    • @aphiweK
      @aphiweK 2 года назад

      😳😳Heey sanuyithetha!!

    • @Ndlovukazi76
      @Ndlovukazi76 2 года назад

      It has actually happened many times.

  • @pulengchabane2970
    @pulengchabane2970 2 года назад +6

    Can she sue Home Affairs

  • @cbosjourney4733
    @cbosjourney4733 2 года назад +1

    My friend could not have an ID she was using birth certificate throughout varsity because of the same issue, It was resolved eventually but took long, I guess because he was under 18 when they married him, they gave him a new ID number

  • @mandymoila9557
    @mandymoila9557 2 года назад +1

    I was not going to leave the home affairs until they fixed my surname. I also had a mistaken surname, they did not want to help me. I insisted until they change error.

  • @nonhlanhlazia5995
    @nonhlanhlazia5995 2 года назад

    I believe her story when she said she do not know the man but he's a South African guy. Lebo you asked good question was so curious too that how did they get her contact in shop
    Heeeey! Most South African women are lying out there getting in contract marriage with foreigner's, collecting a certain amount to foreigner guy before the contract finish they go to home affairs, police station claiming that they do not have idea how they are married to person.

  • @Filoe365
    @Filoe365 2 года назад +4

    We here

  • @alicegauteng2358
    @alicegauteng2358 2 года назад +28

    The person who did this to her is obviously not South African. When we fight these injustices we are labeled as xenophobic. I feel bad for this poor lady

    • @unathinibe8089
      @unathinibe8089 2 года назад +13

      It's a South African who took a bribe. 🤔 We are also the problem.

    • @rachelmkandawire9353
      @rachelmkandawire9353 2 года назад +7

      But South Africans are enablers, they are the ones who took the bribe. Fight to fix the system not to oust foreigners

    • @alicegauteng2358
      @alicegauteng2358 2 года назад

      I agree. South Africans service workers are also a problem . I am in no way deflecting blame from them. They have to face consequences for doing this. However, that still means the foreigner who did this is not legally supposed to be in South Africa. He needs to go!

    • @nyaradzomusango8122
      @nyaradzomusango8122 2 года назад +4

      I knew someone was going to blame a foreigner forgetting that the Home affairs pple received the bribe, why dd they not report the matter and get the person arrested or deported 😳😳😳it's your own pple love.

    • @nyaradzomusango8122
      @nyaradzomusango8122 2 года назад

      @@unathinibe8089 true dear

  • @famym9578
    @famym9578 2 года назад

    When she said she hasn't been to the ceremony .. 🤣She is cute and i'm sorry she had to go through this Hell !

  • @Mabobo333
    @Mabobo333 2 года назад +2

    Ay! our home affairs bathong.

  • @ms.martina8238
    @ms.martina8238 2 года назад +6

    Let's normalise going to home affairs to do passports, even thou we ain't gonna travel... Ku tense on the street..
    Next thing you are married to a ghost 💔
    I'm sorry you had to go thru this.

    • @siba92
      @siba92 2 года назад +2

      But the queues at home affairs omg! And their poor service is Top tier! Disgusting!

    • @NN-id8bk
      @NN-id8bk 2 года назад +3

      How would having a passport deter this type of crime against the individual?

    • @Thulz.
      @Thulz. 2 года назад

      How does making a passport gonna help?

  • @ms.martina8238
    @ms.martina8238 2 года назад +9

    3rd😁
    Notification squad 💃

  • @deladyM
    @deladyM 2 года назад +1

    Couldn't DHA Block this ID and give this lady a new ID?

  • @shyletlupa5453
    @shyletlupa5453 2 года назад +1

    So sad eish😭

  • @4-give-nest176
    @4-give-nest176 2 года назад

    Shame on the gov!!!

  • @candyc5736
    @candyc5736 2 года назад +1

    Does she have contact details to get a donation?

  • @kimnzimande9390
    @kimnzimande9390 2 года назад +1

    💔💔

  • @natheeah7369
    @natheeah7369 2 года назад

    Oh WOW! .....this world has some crookish people....

  • @deladyM
    @deladyM 2 года назад +1

    Weird that DHA can't solve something that's in their system. Sending the poor lady from pillar to post. Funny!

  • @Dklady
    @Dklady 2 года назад +2

    **Unpacked alert**
    I see from next week Monday there will be a show called Life Dream Chaser on the timeslot of Unpacked.
    Can you please confirm Relebogile if the show is ending or will it be continuing on RUclips?

  • @NN-id8bk
    @NN-id8bk 2 года назад +6

    Couldn’t she just apply for a divorce from the courts?

    • @melo_fits2.0
      @melo_fits2.0 2 года назад +2

      This will make things worse because she will be declared “divorced “ whilst she was not ‘married’😩😩😩 I cant imagine what she went through.

    • @NN-id8bk
      @NN-id8bk 2 года назад

      @@melo_fits2.0 isn’t divorced the same as being single? Or are the pros and cons between the status of divorced and single that make a difference which I don’t know about.

    • @ncisept5900
      @ncisept5900 2 года назад

      Then she'd incur all the debt he made in her name. Plus life more complicated

  • @doremi131
    @doremi131 Год назад

    Home affairs officials were not interested in helping her because they are the cause of all this scam.

  • @masanarikhotso5780
    @masanarikhotso5780 2 года назад +3

    So they couldn't trace the unknown husband on her behalf?? 😢😢

    • @thatokammerer2498
      @thatokammerer2498 2 года назад

      Braaa

    • @92Kandee
      @92Kandee 2 года назад +2

      Lol Home Affairs will NEVER do anything on anyone's behalf. Even things that are their job responsibilities, they don't bother themselves... a damn shame.

    • @masanarikhotso5780
      @masanarikhotso5780 2 года назад

      It's so sad hey

  • @mokz91
    @mokz91 2 года назад +3

    Maybe the ones inside are Fraudalent themselves. Lol

  • @khanyisiledube7163
    @khanyisiledube7163 2 года назад +1

    😭😭😭😭

  • @candicegovender9650
    @candicegovender9650 2 года назад +6

    This sorry seems dodge..so many unanswered questions...

  • @motsatsipertuniamakoti6975
    @motsatsipertuniamakoti6975 2 года назад +1

    😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @hlangananichauke3364
    @hlangananichauke3364 2 года назад +1

    😭

  • @thandolwethu_SibuM
    @thandolwethu_SibuM 2 года назад +2

    🥺🥺 I can't even say I understand her story cause wow that would just destroy my life, life I don't see myself getting married let alone getting married without my consent and knowledge. May God bless her for being patient and doing her best, the government keep falling us or Home affairs they're one corrupt institution exactly like SAPS

  • @JulandaHarasesnaris
    @JulandaHarasesnaris 2 года назад

    She must sue home affairs

  • @oliviajoans
    @oliviajoans 2 года назад +5

    For the people thinking she’s lying about this… this stuff can happen… you need to know that these people know how to do this. I shred all my papers with IDs and addresses on them.
    They contacted her easily via databases.
    I’ve had the same number for 14 years

  • @itumelengdimpane6554
    @itumelengdimpane6554 2 года назад +6

    1st

  • @ncedisakhewu
    @ncedisakhewu 2 года назад

    At Home Affairs there is no "document" that states that you are a South African Citizen. SASSA needs ID in order to apply for grant, not a shady "document".
    This story is not true. Marriage of convenience.

    • @amutenyacharmainester4054
      @amutenyacharmainester4054 2 года назад

      Sorry but do you work for Home Affairs?

    • @tshekophilcocia5995
      @tshekophilcocia5995 2 года назад +2

      I’m not sure if I understand your comment I don’t want to just argue without understanding what you mean.
      I’m South African and at work they want a letter/document as proof that I’m a SAn citizen

    • @keepitfrankwithfentse
      @keepitfrankwithfentse 2 года назад +1

      I think you are confusing yourself. Your I.D. is what states your country of birth which automatically means you are a citizen of that country. Her kids who get grant probably used their father's surname to apply for the grant.

  • @thefamily4499
    @thefamily4499 2 года назад

    I’m sorry but I feel there’s much that doesn’t add up with her story... couldn’t she divorce the fake guy.

  • @thandilemahlangabeza9246
    @thandilemahlangabeza9246 2 года назад +1

    15 years?trying to get identity back But according to HA they got married ngo2006 and she discovered this in 2012🤨I'm confused ..math doesn't add up

    • @neomalete5832
      @neomalete5832 2 года назад +5

      Menaing she only got her identity in 2021. 15 years later

    • @neomalete5832
      @neomalete5832 2 года назад

      *meaning

    • @blackyogifromjozi3548
      @blackyogifromjozi3548 2 года назад

      I just found out last week, I was married on the system in 2003, I was applying for a letter of no impediment so I can get married for the first time to my partner, Since I've been using my green ID till now, so I haven't been to home affairs since I did my ID at 18 yrs old. So no chance of knowing, I'm also on the system with my own surname, I'm told the reason is when I married I chose to use my own surname. I have his name. Home affairs gave me this, a Nigerian my god.. so I'm going to Home affairs today to sort it out. I'm so gutted

    • @Thulz.
      @Thulz. 2 года назад

      @@blackyogifromjozi3548 hey babe, how did you go with your case?

  • @danikalunga9846
    @danikalunga9846 2 года назад +3

    This story is not accurate,

  • @ncedisakhewu
    @ncedisakhewu 2 года назад +1

    Unforunately this story is not 100% correct.🤞🏾

  • @mokz91
    @mokz91 2 года назад +1

    Maybe the ones inside are Fraudalent themselves. Lol

    • @maureengraaff4898
      @maureengraaff4898 2 года назад

      I agree playing with people's life what a shame home affairs.