Pyrion should definitely read slaughterhouse five by Kurt Vonnegut, its about someone who comes "unstuck" in time and meets fourth dimensional beings who put him in a museum and discuss how they read books, view time, and see humans, and he adopts their way of perceiving time. Heres an extended quote “The guide invited the crowd to imagine that they were looking across a desert at a mountain range on a day that was twinkling bright and clear. They could look at a peak or a bird or cloud, at a stone right in front of them, or even down into a canyon behind them. But among them was this poor Earthling, and his head was encased in a steel sphere which he could never take off. There was only one eyehole through which he could look, and welded to that eyehole were six feet of pipe. This was only the beginning of Billy's miseries in the metaphor. He was also strapped to a steel lattice which was bolted to a flatcar on rails, and there was no way he could turn his head or touch the pipe. The far end of the pipe rested on a bi-pod which was also bolted to the flatcar. All Billy could see was the little dot at the end of the pipe. He didn't know he was on a flatcar, didn't even know there was anything peculiar about his situation. The flatcar sometimes crept, sometimes went extremely fast, often stopped--went uphill, downhill, around curves, along straightaways. Whatever poor Billy saw through the pipe, he had no choice but to say to himself, 'That's life.”
Lewis was correct,, a 4D being can see all of 3D being in its entirety just like we can see a 2d square inside and outside lying in a 2d plane. Time is a temporal dimension not spacial one.
Great to hear you guys talk about vague things like higher dimensions. Quick note, a 4d being WOULD be able to see inside us, as in he would have a Birdseye view of the 3d dimension, seeing all of volume at one's. You have to remember that we only see a 2d snapshot (projection) representation of a 3d world, that's the whole reason we don't see insides, it's abstructed. A good way of grasping this is by looking at lower dimensions, a flatlander does not see the inside of a square, he just sees a 1d line (or 1d projection of that world), but we (3d beings) CAN see the inside and all sides of that square at ones.
TSLA's valuation is because tech stocks have heavily skewed almost all analysis to be purely speculative. It doesn't matter if they make money right now as long as it looks like they might make a lot of money later. This is the basis for all rideshare and nearly all social media stocks right now other than FB. Look at stuff like NIO, FCEL, and other Electric Vehicle stocks in the past two months. They all got pumped and dumped like mad. Traditional analysis (such as P/E ratio and balance sheets) no longer really matter. You can make 10% in a year on a solid safe company or ride up 50% on a volatile tech stock that even if it were to drop 30% later, you would still have doubled your gain from traditional investing.
25 minutes in, they are speaking the truth. You go to certain HomeDepot's (hardware store) and there are people hanging out that people hire for day labor.
@@Khronogi i think it depends where you are in relation to immigrant populations (legal or illegal). i lived in CA for a while and it was like that at EVERY hardware store, but in MN and WI where i'm from it's absolutely unheard of.
You 100% can live off the dividends of 1mil. Take half of that and throw it in a monthly dividend stock at like 5$ a share and a 6.c payout every month. That’s 100k shares paying you 6k a month. That’s 72k a year. And that’s assuming you don’t reinvest any of the dividends. And you still have half a mil sitting around.
Company's aren't worth how much they profit, a big part of their worth is the cumulative value of their stock and the stock is valued at whatever people are willing to pay for a share on the open market.
Pyrion is right - Dark Waters is pretty boring, but interesting because it's based on a true story. If you want a great film, based on a great true story, that's also set in West Virginia, check out October Sky, and learn the story of the rocket boys, from a Company Town in West Virginia. It stars a young Jake Gyllenhaal, Laura Dern, and Chris Cooper. It's an 11/10 film. If you love the story, check out the novel on which it's based, by the protagonist Homer Hickham, also called October Sky - but was originally published as Rocket Boys. It's on UK Netflix currently.
A company doesn’t need to make a profit to be worth something. Tesla makes a lot of money but they also spend a lot of money. They have a high gross profit but a low net profit. This is because they spend most of their money on R and D and capital purchases, not on transactions necessary to keep operating. Instead of giving their money to shareholders as a dividend they reinvest it in themselves so they can expand quickly. The thing about capital expenditure is that you still have that asset once you’ve bought it. If you really need to, you can sell that asset if you’re out of cash. Banks are so willing to lend them money because of this as well. If Tesla is unable to repay a loan in cash, banks are able to seize their assets and sell them off. That’s why they are worth so much money when they don’t make much of a profit.
Picking up workers is 100% a thing and alot of legitimate companys hire these workers. It's full of exploitation, but it's not always the case and is usually one of the only ways for immigrants to get easy work in America.
"Just have to wait till all those people chuck themselves off... *pfft* ...there's just no helping them." The mental health charities at Jingle Jam: *what?*
What Sips is saying about "$10 million being the new $1 million" is the right idea, but in reality, roughly $2.04 million is the new million given average inflation rates, beginning in 1990. However, I have heard that $3 million is the new rule of thumb so who knows.
Re: Tesla losing money and being valued so high, the company is losing money because they have to pay for manufacturing plants BEFORE those plants can create new cars to be sold for money.
ya, i'm a construction worker and i've been on 3 million+ dollar building jobs and they're really not that big. tesla is building 3 giga factories, that i know of. i've seen drone footage of these sights, they're HUGE, the cost of these things has to be in the billions. i agree, it's little wonder they're not showing any profit.
@@gregoryspatisserie9858 It's a DK thing. You don't have to be stupid to be DK, you have to be careless about the subject, careless enough that you don't care to do anything about thinking on the subject and you take the easy (therefore emotion led: it is the fastest decision making process, reflective takes far longer) assertion and then be done with it.
Yeah it definitely is a thing to drive to a Home Depot and ask some dudes to come do work though it’s really a bad idea as they have no sort of accountability and will often bullshit a job but you get what you pay for
they dont have to pay taxes if they take their profits and spend it back on the company, amazon profits 0$ a year but it does hundreds of billions of dollars in business
Think he said they're doing one for the jingle jam jangle jingle jingle jangle jam jangle jam. The schedule for at least this week was out last I checked, should be able to find it on the yogs' twitch.
I mean I think metaphor is important to understanding parts of the Bible, and that most of it is garbage... But the pillars could be made of Light beams from the star we orbit?
I love how Lewis thinks Agadmator is a "fairly professional chess player," meanwhile in the chess community he's kind of dismissed for only reading out engine moves without any deeper analysis or knowledge of the positions.
Man, I've seen arrival a bunch of times as well because I think it's a great movie, but I did not get that at all. I don't know where pyrion is getting all that.
11:55 because Tesla (the publicly traded company) funds SpaceX (the privately funded company) when SpaceX starts going under AND Tesla is still losing money then Tesla will lose it's value
I would have thought pyrion would have a concept of market cap/value or its maybe me just assuming because a boring accountant. Marke value of a company doesn't necessarily come from revenue, value is defined by the assets the business holds. A business(s) like Elon Musks derives value through R&D, bespokely valued assets and good management of cash flows as opposed to pure revenue generation. Profit is not equal to cash flow.
Hahaha PFlax...drilling to hell? Isnt there a conspiracy theory that some people are doing that or some recording of wierd voices tht sounds liked tortured souls in a deep hole that some worker was working in? Creepy
Almost any programming job can and is done online. That is a gigantic amount of jobs that don't need to go to any physical location unless they have a bad internet...which I've never met a programmer with bad internet.
You definitely could live off $1,000,000 for the rest of your life. Stick that in an index fund, make sure to only withdraw 4% or less for the rest of your life and statistically speaking based on historical inflation and the average year on year growth of the stock market you will never exhaust your money.
The whole thing with the pillars is really dumb, because the same logic of "if it was a ball you could see the pillars" is "if it was flat you could see the edge".
How does Elon make money through failing companies? The same way the church does. Government intervention and religious / zelot like followers who will pump money in to failing stocks to support the dream
5 min in and Lewis’s inability to picture a sphere on top pillars is already setting the tone for another great podcast ha!
"What do you MEAAAAN?" Ooo we're in for a good one today
"What do you mean" killed me
3:38 timestamp
@@codebracker thank you friend
PFlax at the start was so painfully relatable, when Lewis couldn't understand the idea of a sphere on pillars
I was cooking while watching todays episode and witnessed a moth just now fly into the flame on my stove and burn up instantly. I am now traumatized
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I don't know why but this comment got me so bad I actually cried from laughing so hard
"You how much can you lift?" "Much." "Get in." LMAO
In a special event. Can we see sips' eyes. Like if lew lew, or flax say something that sips feels the need to rebut.
So happy to watch the first day of Jingle jam! And can’t wait til the music video is complete! Happy Triforce everyone
It seems there won't be a proper video for the new song. Just the storyboard version sadly.
What they said about Queens Gambit is really on point, was so refreshing to not have generic tropes constantly
Pyrion should definitely read slaughterhouse five by Kurt Vonnegut, its about someone who comes "unstuck" in time and meets fourth dimensional beings who put him in a museum and discuss how they read books, view time, and see humans, and he adopts their way of perceiving time. Heres an extended quote
“The guide invited the crowd to imagine that they were looking across a desert at a mountain range on a day that was twinkling bright and clear. They could look at a peak or a bird or cloud, at a stone right in front of them, or even down into a canyon behind them. But among them was this poor Earthling, and his head was encased in a steel sphere which he could never take off. There was only one eyehole through which he could look, and welded to that eyehole were six feet of pipe.
This was only the beginning of Billy's miseries in the metaphor. He was also strapped to a steel lattice which was bolted to a flatcar on rails, and there was no way he could turn his head or touch the pipe. The far end of the pipe rested on a bi-pod which was also bolted to the flatcar. All Billy could see was the little dot at the end of the pipe. He didn't know he was on a flatcar, didn't even know there was anything peculiar about his situation.
The flatcar sometimes crept, sometimes went extremely fast, often stopped--went uphill, downhill, around curves, along straightaways. Whatever poor Billy saw through the pipe, he had no choice but to say to himself,
'That's life.”
I always thought sips named his kid after KV, apparently not
I love when a story starts with "my friends dog took a shit one time"
'Alt 255', 'Alt 255' 'alt 30', 'Enter', 'Alt 30', 'Alt 255', 'Alt 30' = --▲
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Lewis was correct,, a 4D being can see all of 3D being in its entirety just like we can see a 2d square inside and outside lying in a 2d plane. Time is a temporal dimension not spacial one.
Doesn’t mean they couldn’t see time. Certain animals can see sound and heat. In 4D time could be easier to “see”
27:22 What kind of jobs can you do online though?
Really? NONE of them realize how ironic it is to question that?
Great to hear you guys talk about vague things like higher dimensions. Quick note, a 4d being WOULD be able to see inside us, as in he would have a Birdseye view of the 3d dimension, seeing all of volume at one's. You have to remember that we only see a 2d snapshot (projection) representation of a 3d world, that's the whole reason we don't see insides, it's abstructed. A good way of grasping this is by looking at lower dimensions, a flatlander does not see the inside of a square, he just sees a 1d line (or 1d projection of that world), but we (3d beings) CAN see the inside and all sides of that square at ones.
TSLA's valuation is because tech stocks have heavily skewed almost all analysis to be purely speculative. It doesn't matter if they make money right now as long as it looks like they might make a lot of money later. This is the basis for all rideshare and nearly all social media stocks right now other than FB. Look at stuff like NIO, FCEL, and other Electric Vehicle stocks in the past two months. They all got pumped and dumped like mad. Traditional analysis (such as P/E ratio and balance sheets) no longer really matter. You can make 10% in a year on a solid safe company or ride up 50% on a volatile tech stock that even if it were to drop 30% later, you would still have doubled your gain from traditional investing.
3:38
Sorry, just need to bookmark this.
My favorite time of the week!
god there will be a time where pyrion's "fuck you mars" will be really offensive to people
25 minutes in, they are speaking the truth. You go to certain HomeDepot's (hardware store) and there are people hanging out that people hire for day labor.
Came here to say this, its not coffee shops, but hardware stores.
Ive never actually seen this.
@@Khronogi i think it depends where you are in relation to immigrant populations (legal or illegal). i lived in CA for a while and it was like that at EVERY hardware store, but in MN and WI where i'm from it's absolutely unheard of.
@@Khronogi it doesn’t happen at all of them only certain ones. It’s kinda odd to see.
Well done to Pyrion for reading David Graeber.
Arrival was sounding like a good movie to watch until flax just spoiled the entire thing lmao
You 100% can live off the dividends of 1mil. Take half of that and throw it in a monthly dividend stock at like 5$ a share and a 6.c payout every month. That’s 100k shares paying you 6k a month. That’s 72k a year. And that’s assuming you don’t reinvest any of the dividends. And you still have half a mil sitting around.
Company's aren't worth how much they profit, a big part of their worth is the cumulative value of their stock and the stock is valued at whatever people are willing to pay for a share on the open market.
Pyrion saying he is reading Bullshit Jobs made me incredibly happy
1:58 I found out my SO is a creationist, you have no idea how much pain the ability not to get metaphors...
yikes
I can't believe none of these guys read Slaughterhouse 5
i don't remember what episode it was sips mentioned he was a fan of that book.
Pyrion is right - Dark Waters is pretty boring, but interesting because it's based on a true story. If you want a great film, based on a great true story, that's also set in West Virginia, check out October Sky, and learn the story of the rocket boys, from a Company Town in West Virginia. It stars a young Jake Gyllenhaal, Laura Dern, and Chris Cooper. It's an 11/10 film. If you love the story, check out the novel on which it's based, by the protagonist Homer Hickham, also called October Sky - but was originally published as Rocket Boys. It's on UK Netflix currently.
Pyrion’s Elon Musk impression killed me
generally had no idea arrival had time travel in it until now.
Much love from America
Hey, everyone! Just a reminder to relax your shoulders and drink some water!
People in 4th dimensions can see objects inside other things.
"It takes 31 years to count to 1 billion"
Lewis: so 500 million would take you 1500 years to count to.
500 billion
Yea not sure what this comment is supposed to be pointing out. Lewis was right in what he was talking about.
He was talking about 500 billion not 500 million you bellend
Well I evidently misheard him. It gave me a good laugh and I wanted to share. 500 billion apologies
@@Sjwatts 30 times 500 is 15,000, not 1,500, so he is still wrong...........you bellend
will there be a triforce live this year?
It was live at YogCon last year and that didn't go ahead this year so I'm guessing there work be one sadly!
Man seriously fuck summer, i wish we had winter Christmas down here
Arrival actually was pretty good, thinking back on it.
Have to rewatch Arrival now
Once again, everyone confuses what they mean by a billion. Mathematical vs common usage
What if the pillar is black and so big that the universe can rest on it? That would be cool
A company doesn’t need to make a profit to be worth something. Tesla makes a lot of money but they also spend a lot of money. They have a high gross profit but a low net profit. This is because they spend most of their money on R and D and capital purchases, not on transactions necessary to keep operating. Instead of giving their money to shareholders as a dividend they reinvest it in themselves so they can expand quickly. The thing about capital expenditure is that you still have that asset once you’ve bought it. If you really need to, you can sell that asset if you’re out of cash. Banks are so willing to lend them money because of this as well. If Tesla is unable to repay a loan in cash, banks are able to seize their assets and sell them off. That’s why they are worth so much money when they don’t make much of a profit.
Picking up workers is 100% a thing and alot of legitimate companys hire these workers. It's full of exploitation, but it's not always the case and is usually one of the only ways for immigrants to get easy work in America.
"Just have to wait till all those people chuck themselves off... *pfft* ...there's just no helping them."
The mental health charities at Jingle Jam: *what?*
Good job guys
What Sips is saying about "$10 million being the new $1 million" is the right idea, but in reality, roughly $2.04 million is the new million given average inflation rates, beginning in 1990. However, I have heard that $3 million is the new rule of thumb so who knows.
So in March I'll be 1 billion seconds old
@@Glitchy456 31 years
Re: Tesla losing money and being valued so high, the company is losing money because they have to pay for manufacturing plants BEFORE those plants can create new cars to be sold for money.
I like how Ted speaks with such confidence almost all the time , yet almost all of the time , he is actually a dumbass
ya, i'm a construction worker and i've been on 3 million+ dollar building jobs and they're really not that big. tesla is building 3 giga factories, that i know of. i've seen drone footage of these sights, they're HUGE, the cost of these things has to be in the billions. i agree, it's little wonder they're not showing any profit.
@@gregoryspatisserie9858 It's a DK thing. You don't have to be stupid to be DK, you have to be careless about the subject, careless enough that you don't care to do anything about thinking on the subject and you take the easy (therefore emotion led: it is the fastest decision making process, reflective takes far longer) assertion and then be done with it.
Just started working at eBay and I play RAID, I feel personally attacked right now.
Yeah it definitely is a thing to drive to a Home Depot and ask some dudes to come do work though it’s really a bad idea as they have no sort of accountability and will often bullshit a job but you get what you pay for
pyrion is so cool
Ha!
I guess for a purple triangle anyway
they dont have to pay taxes if they take their profits and spend it back on the company, amazon profits 0$ a year but it does hundreds of billions of dollars in business
What did pyiron mean at the end of last weeks episode about a csgo tournament? Is there a way I could join it i cant find any info online about it ?
Think he said they're doing one for the jingle jam jangle jingle jingle jangle jam jangle jam. The schedule for at least this week was out last I checked, should be able to find it on the yogs' twitch.
@@bryanlinsmeyer3521 thanks last I cheeked it wasn't on the scedual but ill keep checking if it gets updated
I mean I think metaphor is important to understanding parts of the Bible, and that most of it is garbage... But the pillars could be made of Light beams from the star we orbit?
Sips, ill make a Twitter and show you the 20 migrant workers in front of the hardware store by my place
the author of the book pyrion is reading (bullshit jobs) died the other month at 59
I love how Lewis thinks Agadmator is a "fairly professional chess player," meanwhile in the chess community he's kind of dismissed for only reading out engine moves without any deeper analysis or knowledge of the positions.
Man, I've seen arrival a bunch of times as well because I think it's a great movie, but I did not get that at all. I don't know where pyrion is getting all that.
Not even started yet and that title ffs 😂
I thought kingdom come combat was good 😅 kinda realistic trying to fight multiple guys
11:55 because Tesla (the publicly traded company) funds SpaceX (the privately funded company) when SpaceX starts going under AND Tesla is still losing money then Tesla will lose it's value
tesla doesn't fund SpaceX afaik, SpaceX has had a number of investment rounds and makes alot of revenue from government and private contracts
If the earth is flat wouldn't we all get sunrise at the same time?...ya
I guess their logic is that they do
No because a big sail covers a part of the sun
47 minutes is not enough :(
I would have thought pyrion would have a concept of market cap/value or its maybe me just assuming because a boring accountant.
Marke value of a company doesn't necessarily come from revenue, value is defined by the assets the business holds. A business(s) like Elon Musks derives value through R&D, bespokely valued assets and good management of cash flows as opposed to pure revenue generation. Profit is not equal to cash flow.
Lewis: "I think people are banking on America..."
Me, an American: Well there's your first mistake lmao.
The first time I've ever been the first like 😅
Hahaha PFlax...drilling to hell? Isnt there a conspiracy theory that some people are doing that or some recording of wierd voices tht sounds liked tortured souls in a deep hole that some worker was working in? Creepy
Would genuinely like to hear the responses of flat earthers to the podcast, not to take the piss but just out of curiosity
balls on balls
“80085 years” nice sips
In other news, bidding war begins over shitamazon(dot)com domain name between Ebay and Amazon
Almost any programming job can and is done online. That is a gigantic amount of jobs that don't need to go to any physical location unless they have a bad internet...which I've never met a programmer with bad internet.
in thumb nail is sips put hand in pants or not sicne time stamo of how long the video is is coverign it up
Wayayatayatata
David Graeber wasn't a nut. He was a brilliant leftist economist.
RIP
You definitely could live off $1,000,000 for the rest of your life. Stick that in an index fund, make sure to only withdraw 4% or less for the rest of your life and statistically speaking based on historical inflation and the average year on year growth of the stock market you will never exhaust your money.
The whole thing with the pillars is really dumb, because the same logic of "if it was a ball you could see the pillars" is "if it was flat you could see the edge".
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I'd appreciate if there were timestamps to skip spoilers, searching for end of conversation manually is very tedious.
How does Elon make money through failing companies?
The same way the church does. Government intervention and religious / zelot like followers who will pump money in to failing stocks to support the dream