I did same 15 years ago I not like drawing 120 amps to,power inverter any issue loose inferior connection yea red hot. Good vid and nice system u have there great your son there helping u out
I just added a Battleborn/Victron system virtually identical to yours. I'm in the process of installing 1050 watts of solar with the expectation of running the AC off it. Your video is very reassuring and enjoyable.! I also have a built in Onan genset which I don't like using simply because of the noise and I'm sure any neighbors we may have while boondocking will appreciate it as well.
I would enjoy seeing how you set yours up and hear how your solar instal goes. I'm looking to add additional solar and considering my options to be ready for a big trip we are planning. Thanks for watching!
@@TreeTalkerTheTraveler be happy to post a couple pics....as soon as I figure out how to!🤣 For now, I have everything mounted under the bed including 4 lithiums. I should have all 5, 210 watt panels installed and wired up today into a combiner box, then into the charge controller. Wish me luck!
Great video. You may want to look into a Micro-Air Easy Start system, for your A/C. It decreases the start up amps, of the A/C, significantly. Mine went from 51 amps, down to 15 amps. It runs a very long time on a 2000 watt generator.
That’s running full time and hard with solar not connected. At Night, on a cooler Day, or with solar connected you may get substantial more time. Also had fridge running off 110v, keep fridge in propane to get more battery life their too. The fridge draws a lot of power when in electric mode.
Have you looked into converting to a high efficiency mini split AC system? I've seen some tests that suggest they can consume as little as 700Wh at full blast.
@@jonathanbell5561 why wait for "RV specific" mini split.... That's just waiting for proper gouging. I put a mini split in my semi truck.... And it works great
@@vroor32 excellent point and glad it’s working for you. The reason for me is limitations around installation dimensions and existing layout of my unit and my desire to maintain current cosmetics of the unit. I would probably do it anyway if current AC was not working for us.
The time per battery all depends on the duty cycle. It will run AC longer if it's 70 degrees longer than if it is 90 degrees. A soft start will extend run time. If you really wan tot extend time, look for RUclips videos for people who have installed a mini-split AC in their RV. They are MUCH more efficient, like 8amps max usage, they are a lot quiter, and cheaper than those roof AC's if they ever need to be replaced.
Thank Brian. We installed a soft start for this test and it helped. I have done a little tweaking and we are getting significantly more out of it now, also added some batteries. One big difference is during this test I had my fridge running on the inverter. It pulled more than I thought so by switching it to propane it gave me more juice for AC. Also if any cooler or less humid outside it makes a big difference. We got a full day in Florida over Christmas running AC while waiting on a spot to pen at Fort Wilderness. I'll do an update test and show those changes. It does seem the mini-splits are even better, but right now Im not ready to that kind of overhaul on the RV. Maybe one day. Thanks for watching!!
I'm new & confused here. 15k BTU is about 4400 watts & you have about 4800wh in battery (So I thought?). So I'm wondering how you got 2.5h in AC. I know I'm doing something wrong but not sure what, could you please clear me up? THank you!
Im Actually getting even more out of it now per a battery. In this experiment I left the fridge running on AC and that eats into the battery vs switching to propane. I have now two more batteries as well. Each BB is about 1200 watt hours for 4800 watt hours for four batteries. I do have an easy start I installed that helps with the initial load. A 15000 btu AC pulls about 1500 to 1800 running watts and about 3500 watts to start (if you don’t install an easy start). The easy start lessens the start up load by spreading it out. I believe there is a link to the easy start we used in the video notes, if not, I will add one. 4800 divided by 1500 is 3.2 hours assuming no other draw and no loss from inverting (inverting is not very efficient). I hope that helped? If not let me know.
12v system. Batteries are run in parallel. Used to run AC while waiting on a campsite this week at Fort Wilderness and was going 4 hours with no issue. Was about 80 degrees and I kept fridge on propane.
Do you have a soft start device attached to your air conditioner or was the inverter able to handle the initial surge? It depends on your fridge, but I’m guessing you might’ve gotten another hour of use with that running on propane. Thanks for sharing your test results.
The Battle Born batteries are bad ass and work great for me anyways and it will run ac for minimal 5 hrs and if it’s a lot more than that I will start my generator and recharge my batteries my battle batteries they are the best no dout 15:3515:36 about it and with them topped off I have a DC to DC charger by Renorgy that charges off my alternator and it charges very quick and could not do this with out of Battle Borns and they are the best for the money !!!
Just caught you YT channel and its great and relatable. Please help us out. You mentioned on using Wifi through T Mobile who is our carrier. There is allot of info on YTube but its all over the place. We need simplicity nothing more. I saw that white wifi router type mobile hotspot you said was great after trying 12 something devices.. I hope you could help us out.
I would love to help. We are putting out a video this weekend that will cover that and be more clear (We admit this video was a little all over the place). We bought our hot spot through Travel Data. I'll provide a link here and in the upcoming video. It uses T-Mobile but really is unlimited data. If you buy directly from a carrier like T-Mobile it is generally throttled after a certain amount of data is used. Because I have to work when traveling and the kids do school we have a package that just went up to $89 a month. Thats expensive for casual use so they do have other packages and you can just do one month when needed. We will also have a lot of information posted to Face Book at Tree Talker The Traveler. Im glad you enjoyed the video and hope you consider subscribing if not already. Thanks
@@TreeTalkerTheTraveler We appreciate this response. And listening to your advise. Looking forward to your next video. Will share this with my wife. We live here in Miami, Fla and will be staying up in St.Augstine Dec 17, RV camp called Campos? Please let us know if by chance you might make your way up to North East Florida. Now thinking I'm not to sure of the name lol maybe it's Campus? We are officially your subscribers . We have a channel called RVILLA.Travels or something like that. Simply my wife wanting to keep some video's around. This way you can see who is your our subscriber.
Battery born are so overpriced. There are so many other options now. SOK Batteries are $560 for a 100ah compared to BB that are 899.00 for 100ah. SOK has just as good of a warranty. BB are just not worth it anymore.
SOK has done a great job putting a good competitive battery on the market and I’m glad to see it. Only real issue I have seen is supply issues. Longevity of Company is important for warranties and Battle Born has that, but I bet SOK will too. They are different chemistry and one may be better than the other for your application and the different demissions may limit you to one or the other. Battle Born has a considerably faster discharge and charge rate than SOK and that’s import to some people, like me. But there are options and it’s a good idea to see which option works best for you and your budget. SOK, Lion and others may be the best solution but Battle Born is still a very proven company and a battery that should be considered.
And I have a generator that will charge the Battleborn batteries I just wish that Oman does not have a auto idle and that means it just crank on hi RPM so come on Oman get you stuff together or you will be left in the dust !!
Thanks for watching. We have videos as we made changes got even more out of it. But for most nights it allows us to keep the camper cool overnight while traveling (harvest host or Cracker Barrel) and cool it off when we stop for a break or lunch. With the DC to DC charger and solar it then can top off between stops and be ready to go. So it works good for what we do.
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I did same 15 years ago I not like drawing 120 amps to,power inverter any issue loose inferior connection yea red hot. Good vid and nice system u have there great your son there helping u out
Thanks for watching!
I just added a Battleborn/Victron system virtually identical to yours. I'm in the process of installing 1050 watts of solar with the expectation of running the AC off it. Your video is very reassuring and enjoyable.! I also have a built in Onan genset which I don't like using simply because of the noise and I'm sure any neighbors we may have while boondocking will appreciate it as well.
I would enjoy seeing how you set yours up and hear how your solar instal goes. I'm looking to add additional solar and considering my options to be ready for a big trip we are planning. Thanks for watching!
@@TreeTalkerTheTraveler be happy to post a couple pics....as soon as I figure out how to!🤣
For now, I have everything mounted under the bed including 4 lithiums. I should have all 5, 210 watt panels installed and wired up today into a combiner box, then into the charge controller. Wish me luck!
Great video. You may want to look into a Micro-Air Easy Start system, for your A/C. It decreases the start up amps, of the A/C, significantly. Mine went from 51 amps, down to 15 amps. It runs a very long time on a 2000 watt generator.
Thanks and agree. I installed and easy start as part of install before running this test. RV units should come with it or n my opinion.
Heck I installed one on my 4 ton central AC and it dropped the amp surge from up to 80+ down to less than 40
That’s running full time and hard with solar not connected. At Night, on a cooler Day, or with solar connected you may get substantial more time. Also had fridge running off 110v, keep fridge in propane to get more battery life their too. The fridge draws a lot of power when in electric mode.
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subscribed awesome intelligent son you & helper you have!!! Happy 2022
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This video is great! These people have very welcoming personalities.
I agree.
They do. Lol
That set up look beautiful
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Thank you!
Have you looked into converting to a high efficiency mini split AC system? I've seen some tests that suggest they can consume as little as 700Wh at full blast.
We have not but have seen that some have done so. I imagine we will see (more) RV specific mini splits in the future.
@@jonathanbell5561 why wait for "RV specific" mini split.... That's just waiting for proper gouging. I put a mini split in my semi truck.... And it works great
@@vroor32 excellent point and glad it’s working for you. The reason for me is limitations around installation dimensions and existing layout of my unit and my desire to maintain current cosmetics of the unit. I would probably do it anyway if current AC was not working for us.
The time per battery all depends on the duty cycle. It will run AC longer if it's 70 degrees longer than if it is 90 degrees. A soft start will extend run time. If you really wan tot extend time, look for RUclips videos for people who have installed a mini-split AC in their RV. They are MUCH more efficient, like 8amps max usage, they are a lot quiter, and cheaper than those roof AC's if they ever need to be replaced.
Thank Brian. We installed a soft start for this test and it helped. I have done a little tweaking and we are getting significantly more out of it now, also added some batteries. One big difference is during this test I had my fridge running on the inverter. It pulled more than I thought so by switching it to propane it gave me more juice for AC. Also if any cooler or less humid outside it makes a big difference. We got a full day in Florida over Christmas running AC while waiting on a spot to pen at Fort Wilderness. I'll do an update test and show those changes. It does seem the mini-splits are even better, but right now Im not ready to that kind of overhaul on the RV. Maybe one day. Thanks for watching!!
Great real time test.
Thanks!
But if you had solar panels up you could run it much longer.
Excellent point. We didn’t have attached for this test, but we do have a single 190w panel and will be adding 2-3 more and then run this test again.
I'm new & confused here. 15k BTU is about 4400 watts & you have about 4800wh in battery (So I thought?). So I'm wondering how you got 2.5h in AC. I know I'm doing something wrong but not sure what, could you please clear me up? THank you!
Im Actually getting even more out of it now per a battery. In this experiment I left the fridge running on AC and that eats into the battery vs switching to propane. I have now two more batteries as well.
Each BB is about 1200 watt hours for 4800 watt hours for four batteries.
I do have an easy start I installed that helps with the initial load. A 15000 btu AC pulls about 1500 to 1800 running watts and about 3500 watts to start (if you don’t install an easy start). The easy start lessens the start up load by spreading it out.
I believe there is a link to the easy start we used in the video notes, if not, I will add one. 4800 divided by 1500 is 3.2 hours assuming no other draw and no loss from inverting (inverting is not very efficient).
I hope that helped? If not let me know.
Here is link to easy easy start I used. Takes only a few minutes to install, super easy: amzn.to/3ukFgch
What you did wrong, was try and do the conversion between btu and wattage. It doesn't work that way with an a/c unit, at least not directly.
Great Video!! Is this still a 12volt system and did you run the Battle Born in series or parallel? Thank and keep up the great videos!
12v system. Batteries are run in parallel. Used to run AC while waiting on a campsite this week at Fort Wilderness and was going 4 hours with no issue. Was about 80 degrees and I kept fridge on propane.
Do you have a soft start device attached to your air conditioner or was the inverter able to handle the initial surge? It depends on your fridge, but I’m guessing you might’ve gotten another hour of use with that running on propane. Thanks for sharing your test results.
I installed a soft start. Easy install. Agree on fridge. May try again and see.
I used this one: amzn.to/3ukFgch
The Battle Born batteries are bad ass and work great for me anyways and it will run ac for minimal 5 hrs and if it’s a lot more than that I will start my generator and recharge my batteries my battle batteries they are the best no dout 15:35 15:36 about it and with them topped off I have a DC to DC charger by Renorgy that charges off my alternator and it charges very quick and could not do this with out of Battle Borns and they are the best for the money !!!
Battle Borns have worked great for us too. We also use a DC to DC charger with them. Thanks for watching.
Just caught you YT channel and its great and relatable. Please help us out. You mentioned on using Wifi through T Mobile who is our carrier. There is allot of info on YTube but its all over the place. We need simplicity nothing more. I saw that white wifi router type mobile hotspot you said was great after trying 12 something devices.. I hope you could help us out.
I would love to help. We are putting out a video this weekend that will cover that and be more clear (We admit this video was a little all over the place). We bought our hot spot through Travel Data. I'll provide a link here and in the upcoming video. It uses T-Mobile but really is unlimited data. If you buy directly from a carrier like T-Mobile it is generally throttled after a certain amount of data is used. Because I have to work when traveling and the kids do school we have a package that just went up to $89 a month. Thats expensive for casual use so they do have other packages and you can just do one month when needed. We will also have a lot of information posted to Face Book at Tree Talker The Traveler. Im glad you enjoyed the video and hope you consider subscribing if not already. Thanks
@@TreeTalkerTheTraveler We appreciate this response. And listening to your advise. Looking forward to your next video. Will share this with my wife. We live here in Miami, Fla and will be staying up in St.Augstine Dec 17, RV camp called Campos? Please let us know if by chance you might make your way up to North East Florida. Now thinking I'm not to sure of the name lol maybe it's Campus? We are officially your subscribers . We have a channel called RVILLA.Travels or something like that. Simply my wife wanting to keep some video's around. This way you can see who is your our subscriber.
The video on internet has posted and available to watch now. Let me know if it answered your questions.
Can you help me with hooking up solar?
What solar are you installing? Lots of great options.
I'm not sure. Might be in a couple months.
Battery born are so overpriced.
There are so many other options now.
SOK Batteries are $560 for a 100ah compared to BB that are 899.00 for 100ah.
SOK has just as good of a warranty. BB are just not worth it anymore.
SOK has done a great job putting a good competitive battery on the market and I’m glad to see it. Only real issue I have seen is supply issues. Longevity of Company is important for warranties and Battle Born has that, but I bet SOK will too. They are different chemistry and one may be better than the other for your application and the different demissions may limit you to one or the other. Battle Born has a considerably faster discharge and charge rate than SOK and that’s import to some people, like me. But there are options and it’s a good idea to see which option works best for you and your budget. SOK, Lion and others may be the best solution but Battle Born is still a very proven company and a battery that should be considered.
No no nogood I run my 12000btu mini split 10 hours on 2_100 lipo4 in serie 24v to inverter 120v
That is very interesting. I would enjoy hearing more about your setup.
And I have a generator that will charge the Battleborn batteries I just wish that Oman does not have a auto idle and that means it just crank on hi RPM so come on Oman get you stuff together or you will be left in the dust !!
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Wow that's very disappointing
Thanks for watching. We have videos as we made changes got even more out of it. But for most nights it allows us to keep the camper cool overnight while traveling (harvest host or Cracker Barrel) and cool it off when we stop for a break or lunch. With the DC to DC charger and solar it then can top off between stops and be ready to go. So it works good for what we do.