The band was incredibly tight. We were all at least half Buddy's age, and he gave 200% every night. He set the standard for us all, and we better have kept it! Listen to the clarity of the sticks strokes. I'm glad to have been a part of it. Bob Kaye (Pianist)
I'm playing this in my university's jazz ensemble. I'm really looking forward to giving doing Buddy justice on this piece. The more I play it, the more I learn about the genuis behind his playing. Amazing tune
got to love buddy total greatness, played with him in NYC at a bar called the Purple Pepper. I now live in Saskatchewan, seems like 50 million miles away.
Best drummer that ever was or EVER will be. Check 'em all out....you'll see for yourself. Oh, there's some REAL good drummers.....None......NONE like Buddy. He's TRULY in a class by himself. There really is no "class." It's just HIM!!
This chart, "Ya Gotta Try" is a beast - like most of the up tempo Nestico charts. Just pushing the band isn't good enough. You have to drive hard, kick the shins out of it - as Buddy did like no other person I have ever heard. Had the chance to see this band around this time - in April of 1978. Changed me forever.
tscoffey1 I agree this is one of my favorite charts. I've never been in a group that could shine this ones shoes but when you get a great driving drummer, it just makes the whole group better.
WOW. anyone who thinks this isn't some of THE sickest big band playing ever...put some headphone on & play to this on drums. HOLY SH*T. just tried & BR's intensity, crispness, fills, set-ups is near impossible to cop. i love you, man.
I love this whole concert. Their version of Birdland from this night was impeccable. Steve Marcus and Tommy Warrington really stand out as 2 of the best members of the band, besides Buddy of course.
Oltre essere UN GENIO DELLA BATTERIA DIRIGE BUDDY LA SUA ORCHESTRA, LE PARTITURE MUSICALI PER I SUOI MUSICISTI LE SCRIVE BUDDY !!! IL VERO SWING JAZZ !!!!!!!!
Legend! No words! Quite a few comments here re. the bass sound, electric vs upright etc. I was happy to meet Tom Warrington (bass here) when I was just 14 back in 79. We kept in touch and I interviewed him for a norwegian music magazine a few years ago and asked him why Buddy often prefered the el. bass. Tom said that it was a combination of transportation, clarity of sound and getting the bass loud enough to cut through in the various styles. Also, upright mikes were a sad chapter in the 70s. Anyway, whoever mixed this certainly cranked up the bass:)
The attack is different: An upright fades in, whereas an electric bass is right there from the instant your finger releases the string. And considering the force and energy he played with, Buddy might have preferred to have the bass right there with him instead of an tiny bit behind.
God damn! Another flawless work of art from the Master and his band! Just smoking! And then I wonder who are the three loosers that actually dislike this? What don't they like? The musicians hair? The stage decor? The color finish of the drums?...
My goodness. That much clarity in both ideas and execution at this tempo? Just, wow! Not the solos; the comping and ensemble playing. The whole band has great time but the way Buddy plays makes the arrangement clear and helps keep the band tight. I would think that it would be hard to NOT play in time with Buddy, as clear and powerful as his feel was - as long as you’ve got the chops to keep up, that is!
Watch and study this chart with Buddy kicking the band, then watch the one with Vinnie Colaiuta playing the same chart. Not even in the same Universe. This is why Buddy was the best of the best - - - not because of his superhuman solos, but because no drummer in history has ever driven a band like Buddy.
beedoe51 BR was amazing. I'd use that word for him, but not for VC. VC is a good drummer. I don't care for his playing at all. Not my personal taste, but good for what he plays, none the less. No where near amazing, but that's just my personal taste. Guys like Mel Lewis, Joe Morello, Shelly Manne, Papa Jo Jones, Buddy, of course, and a handful more - - - those are the guys I consider amazing. The Master Jazz Drummers. I don't feel that guys like VC are anywhere near The Masters, on any level.
tunefultony johnson Right, those guys are bona fide Jazz drummers, and they have the Jazz concept in their playing. VC does not. I saw Mr. Roker years ago with the Milt Jackson Quartet. He really had that band swinging. A Master Jazz drummer, and very under rated.
The man did not know the meaning of 'laid back' and yet, still is the all time greatest. Drive is drive is drive is inspiring I guess. I love it, the energy the passion, the skill, and he had an album all about Basie--the definition of laid back--I don't get it but cannot get enough.
It would seem that as time goes on, the quality of the music recorded is inversely proportional to the quality of the technology available. What fantastic playing by Buddy (as always) and the band!
I saw him live in Yakima Washington, wow, talk about drive, for over an hour, it was non-stop, it was awesome, the longer they played the more hyped up they got, I mean to tell you, the air was full of excitement, he never seemed to get tired. Man, he was awesome.
damn this is sick...especially if you have ever played this chart. Buddy is unmatched & all these youtube uploads just keep me on my heels over & over again.
Greatest Kung-Fu on Earth. I don't know if Bruce Lee was the Buddy Rich of martial arts, or if it was the other way around. But, my God, nobody ever played like that...Never will.
The great Tom Warrington on bass; Barry Keiner on piano: One of Buddy's all time favorite rhythm section combinations. He loved these guys...He knew what he was doing.
The pianist here was NYer Bob Kaye who posted first in comment section. Sadly he just passed away recently. Barry was an incredible talent gone way too soon, tragic. :-(
HOLY shizzot ! that is one of the sickest, tightest versions of Ya Gotta Try (sounds like a Nestico arrangement?) i have ever heard. seems close to line-up and intensity for the "Buddy Rich Plays & Plays & Plays" album that i have & worshiped back in the day.
Bem que nessa época, o Elvis Presley estava no auge da carreira, ele poderia ter chamado Buddy rich, pra gravar uma de suas músicas juntos, seria incrível essa dupla, Buddy rich e Elvis Presley.😎🤙
You have drummers and you have drummers who THINK they are drummers.????? Then along comes Buddy Rich and all hell brakes loose. Buddy always always always seperated all the so called drummers. Buddy sat behind a set of drums any brand any type., Buddy was the GOD the Holy Grail of drumming. Every One in the Universe has an opinion. With out a doubt Buddy to this date still holds the title of the Worlds Greatest Drummer. no ands ifs or buts.. case closed.
@bkaye Wow - you must have some great memories despite what people say about how Buddy treated his bandmates. I've been a fan of the Buddy Rich Big Band since the '70s - went to see him a few times. I still listen to Buddy's music all of the time. The whole band was on fire! Incredible!
Denny Farrell Here Late Night Chicago Radio. Buddy 5 Star performance. the arrangement is somewhat different than when I was the MC for Buddy in Skokie back in the 80's Great sounding band.
If y our a drummer and you try and play this tune form the chart and you can even keep up with it and not screw it up you will never kick it in the ass like Buddy does. Absolutely phenomenal in every way and he makes it look easy as hell. Even if yo'ur a horn player, this is a hard one to play.
"You guys...You guys are not my kind of guys. I'm going to take you outside and show you what it's like. See how well you do without all the assistance."
Buddy Rich was on an extraterrestrial level as a drummer. There have been scores of terrific jazz drummers (Louis Bellson, Kenny Clarke, Max Roach, Art Taylor, Rufus Jones, Kenny Washington, Lewis Nash, and so many others). But ask any of them and they would have said or say now that Buddy was on a different level. Watch his left hand at the 3:12 mark. No other drummer has ever done or is able to do that. But it wasn't only Buddy's incredible hands - it was his impeccable taste - that made him the greatest of all time.
I play trumpet. my bigband gonna try this song. Who is that guy on lead trumpet? maybe.. bobby shew??? Anyway, This is awesome!!! buddy Rich... He is one of the most great drummer. Especially.. on Big band, Swing!!!
the master at it again! buddy rich is the man. period. just watch how he pushes the band sheer power, energy and mastery of the instrument. his fills are so right on.. because if you really listen are phrased perfectly to the feel and momentum of this chart.. of course buddy did this consistantly. compare this to 'vinnie coluita's" rendition and the difference is in your face.damn what a monster buddy rich was.......a legend!
@MrSunofbeach Not Bobby Shew playing lead. By '78 he was long gone from Buddy's band and was playing lead for Toshiko Akiyoshi and Louie Bellson. That's also about the time he started his combo and was getting out of lead playing. Liner notes say that was Chuck Schmidt playing lead. Could be - I never saw him live and don't know what he looks like. Based on other charts I've heard it doesn't sound like Chuck Schmidt, so not sure.
80-80 and 89, actually. BD didn't play it in 79. Opener in 79 was Chicago III Suite. Strangely, none of this was quoted in the tag ending Wayne wrote from 80-84 (which I played...soprano in 84). The tag had parts of La Suerte de los Tontos, New York Fantasy, and Legend of a One-Eyed Sailor, but not YGT or Chase the Clouds Away (Jerry Seawright's fave BD chart)
Barry Gibson: Buddy was leaning so much the trumpet section began rushing the accents at the end, losing the independency of the quarter note triplets!
@scooter175971 well i was sorta joking lol but ya im learning jazz atm. So that was true he had a bad attitude? Some people say that if u knew him he wasn't so idk.......
@signupandmakemoney In this part of the piece the 2nd trumpet play lead, so the lead trumpet player can take a break after the very hard shout chorus, to play his high-notes in the end :)
Anyone else notice that what is actually going on here? The band drags every once in a while (so slightly...) and buddy yells at them; then they play the next phrase tighter. Scary dude!
The band drags slightly every once in a while? Good god, get a pair of hearing aids, man. This band is hot, clean and smoking. The entire set was superb.
The band was incredibly tight. We were all at least half Buddy's age, and he gave 200% every night. He set the standard for us all, and we better have kept it!
Listen to the clarity of the sticks strokes. I'm glad to have been a part of it.
Bob Kaye
(Pianist)
You guys were awesome not just buddy....a military unit!
You were the guy on piano? Wow. That must have been something special to be a part of!
❤
@@galaxytraveler5779 Unfortunately Bob passed away in 2019. He composed for Buddy too - "Grand Concourse" was his chart, and Buddy played it a lot.
The piano lines are awesome. This whole performance is supreme!
Ive been playing a long long time, I just cant get the 2264th notes that clean... or the perfect attack delivery. I will never stop trying.
The trumpet section is 🔥!
i was in the audience... won't forget that concert
Buddy set a high standard for himself and those young guys. It paid off then and for the rest of their lives.
One of my favorite fretless basslines ever. It’s so addicting
Buddy Rich made it look so easy. All the great ones do.
I'm playing this in my university's jazz ensemble. I'm really looking forward to giving doing Buddy justice on this piece. The more I play it, the more I learn about the genuis behind his playing. Amazing tune
Good for you ! I'd love to know how the Show went ?
Same
@@petermills542Sorry for the late reply but it went fantastic. 🙏🏽
@@ks7688it went really well! 🔥🙏🏽
Great arrangement! Super tight!
This is "Ya Gotta Try"
That's what I love about jazz: No show at all, but they play like HELL! In today's rock bands its just the opposite.
Marcus and Pribeck, were off to the races!
So was Tom Warrington from the get-go!
got to love buddy total greatness, played with him in NYC at a bar called the Purple Pepper. I now live in Saskatchewan, seems like 50 million miles away.
And to think that old man did that wearing a friggin SWEATER!
Best drummer I have ever seen....
Best drummer that ever was or EVER will be. Check 'em all out....you'll see for yourself. Oh, there's some REAL good drummers.....None......NONE like Buddy. He's TRULY in a class by himself. There really is no "class." It's just HIM!!
This chart, "Ya Gotta Try" is a beast - like most of the up tempo Nestico charts. Just pushing the band isn't good enough. You have to drive hard, kick the shins out of it - as Buddy did like no other person I have ever heard.
Had the chance to see this band around this time - in April of 1978. Changed me forever.
tscoffey1 I agree this is one of my favorite charts. I've never been in a group that could shine this ones shoes but when you get a great driving drummer, it just makes the whole group better.
WOW. anyone who thinks this isn't some of THE sickest big band playing ever...put some headphone on & play to this on drums. HOLY SH*T. just tried & BR's intensity, crispness, fills, set-ups is near impossible to cop. i love you, man.
I'm a drummer and watching buddy rich just makes me want to give up!!! =( Buddy Rich is to beast to even watch lol
I love this whole concert. Their version of Birdland from this night was impeccable. Steve Marcus and Tommy Warrington really stand out as 2 of the best members of the band, besides Buddy of course.
Oltre essere UN GENIO DELLA BATTERIA DIRIGE BUDDY LA SUA ORCHESTRA, LE PARTITURE MUSICALI PER I SUOI MUSICISTI LE SCRIVE BUDDY !!! IL VERO SWING JAZZ !!!!!!!!
Legend! No words! Quite a few comments here re. the bass sound, electric vs upright etc. I was happy to meet Tom Warrington (bass here) when I was just 14 back in 79. We kept in touch and I interviewed him for a norwegian music magazine a few years ago and asked him why Buddy often prefered the el. bass. Tom said that it was a combination of transportation, clarity of sound and getting the bass loud enough to cut through in the various styles. Also, upright mikes were a sad chapter in the 70s. Anyway, whoever mixed this certainly cranked up the bass:)
The attack is different: An upright fades in, whereas an electric bass is right there from the instant your finger releases the string. And considering the force and energy he played with, Buddy might have preferred to have the bass right there with him instead of an tiny bit behind.
God damn! Another flawless work of art from the Master and his band! Just smoking! And then I wonder who are the three loosers that actually dislike this? What don't they like? The musicians hair? The stage decor? The color finish of the drums?...
Buddy's wig
This song and Beulah Witch are my favorite two songs from the Buddy Rich book.
My goodness. That much clarity in both ideas and execution at this tempo? Just, wow! Not the solos; the comping and ensemble playing. The whole band has great time but the way Buddy plays makes the arrangement clear and helps keep the band tight. I would think that it would be hard to NOT play in time with Buddy, as clear and powerful as his feel was - as long as you’ve got the chops to keep up, that is!
Watch and study this chart with Buddy kicking the band, then watch the one with Vinnie Colaiuta playing the same chart. Not even in the same Universe. This is why Buddy was the best of the best - - - not because of his superhuman solos, but because no drummer in history has ever driven a band like Buddy.
MarkR1957 I couldn't agree more! Vinnie is an amazing drummer, but there's nobody then or since that drives it better than Bud!
beedoe51
BR was amazing. I'd use that word for him, but not for VC. VC is a good drummer. I don't care for his playing at all. Not my personal taste, but good for what he plays, none the less. No where near amazing, but that's just my personal taste. Guys like Mel Lewis, Joe Morello, Shelly Manne, Papa Jo Jones, Buddy, of course, and a handful more - - - those are the guys I consider amazing. The Master Jazz Drummers. I don't feel that guys like VC are anywhere near The Masters, on any level.
MarkR1957 totally agree but there are also session drummers less well known who can drive a Big Band, such as Lewish Nash or Mickey Roker
tunefultony johnson Right, those guys are bona fide Jazz drummers, and they have the Jazz concept in their playing. VC does not.
I saw Mr. Roker years ago with the Milt Jackson Quartet. He really had that band swinging. A Master Jazz drummer, and very under rated.
Eh, I prefer VC. I like his heavy, robust style of drumming. His rudiments are crazy too.
The man did not know the meaning of 'laid back' and yet, still is the all time greatest. Drive is drive is drive is inspiring I guess. I love it, the energy the passion, the skill, and he had an album all about Basie--the definition of laid back--I don't get it but cannot get enough.
It would seem that as time goes on, the quality of the music recorded is inversely proportional to the quality of the technology available. What fantastic playing by Buddy (as always) and the band!
Truth. It's that digital doesn't sound as organic and everything now even the instruments are digital. If there are instruments in the song.
saw this band many times in the 70s, he played often in NY. Good memories, great players/soloists and Buddy inspired me as a drummer big time.
I saw him live in Yakima Washington, wow, talk about drive, for over an hour, it was non-stop, it was awesome, the longer they played the more hyped up they got, I mean to tell you, the air was full of excitement, he never seemed to get tired. Man, he was awesome.
damn this is sick...especially if you have ever played this chart. Buddy is unmatched & all these youtube uploads just keep me on my heels over & over again.
Greatest Kung-Fu on Earth. I don't know if Bruce Lee was the Buddy Rich of martial arts, or if it was the other way around. But, my God, nobody ever played like that...Never will.
The great Tom Warrington on bass; Barry Keiner on piano: One of Buddy's all time favorite rhythm section combinations. He loved these guys...He knew what he was doing.
The pianist here was NYer Bob Kaye who posted first in comment section. Sadly he just passed away recently. Barry was an incredible talent gone way too soon, tragic. :-(
Great tenor saxophone solos!!!!Steve Marcus and Gary Pribek!!!
What a great tempo, that’s a dimmers dream you know! The kids in that band where 17,18 19 29 years old! The whole concert is on UTube. Great!
かっこよすぎる
One word: Precision.
HOLY shizzot ! that is one of the sickest, tightest versions of Ya Gotta Try (sounds like a Nestico arrangement?) i have ever heard. seems close to line-up and intensity for the "Buddy Rich Plays & Plays & Plays" album that i have & worshiped back in the day.
The best ya gotta try ever
as seen here, always so fluid. no matter how intricate the lick.
Gary Prebek and Mike McGovern!!!! two amazing players.
Steve Marcus was the 1st tenor solo.
@@vicdante1648 One of his best bands ever!
Check out Gary Pribek here. What a monster player.
ruclips.net/video/GzQzHwtsTB4/видео.html
@@bigswingface5847 Yeah I was in a group with Pre for a couple of years. He is an amazing player.
Bem que nessa época, o Elvis Presley estava no auge da carreira, ele poderia ter chamado Buddy rich, pra gravar uma de suas músicas juntos, seria incrível essa dupla, Buddy rich e Elvis Presley.😎🤙
The best jazzdrummer ever!
Very cool video
You have drummers and you have drummers who THINK they are drummers.????? Then along comes Buddy Rich and all hell brakes loose. Buddy always always always seperated all the so called drummers. Buddy sat behind a set of drums any brand any type., Buddy was the GOD the Holy Grail of drumming. Every One in the Universe has an opinion. With out a doubt Buddy to this date still holds the title of the Worlds Greatest Drummer. no ands ifs or buts.. case closed.
Very well said! Never will there ever be another Buddy Rich!!
Are you kidding me - that was sick!
Holy Crap!!! What DRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Super exchanges between Marcus and Pribek.
Doesn't that little left hand fill at 3:12 just put a smile on your face. :)
Help a non-player out. Are you talking about what he does on the hi-hat?
@@warrengoodwyn9169 no his left hand on the snare
@bkaye Wow - you must have some great memories despite what people say about how Buddy treated his bandmates. I've been a fan of the Buddy Rich Big Band since the '70s - went to see him a few times. I still listen to Buddy's music all of the time. The whole band was on fire! Incredible!
If ya know, ya KNOW!!!!
man the speed is crazy
No its called "You Gotta Try". First released in 1977 on the album "Buddy Rich Plays and Plays and Plays". Saw him play it in person several times.
Denny Farrell Here Late Night Chicago Radio. Buddy 5 Star performance. the arrangement is somewhat different than when I was the MC for Buddy in Skokie back in the 80's Great sounding band.
played this at my summer jazz camp on lead trumpet
A genius!
@DavidTananger123 Yes. it's the Jazz Icons series. Go to their website or Ebay to find this. It is available there, and it is a superb concert.
Bass player was shredding it - you can see Buddy was eating it up 👍
Bass player was way too loud for my taste...that's find with rock bands...but it was too damn overpowering here...
@@jamesmiller9515L take bass is great
If y our a drummer and you try and play this tune form the chart and you can even keep up with it and not screw it up you will never kick it in the ass like Buddy does. Absolutely phenomenal in every way and he makes it look easy as hell. Even if yo'ur a horn player, this is a hard one to play.
eh, not really that difficult. the secret lies in working the bass drum.
This whole DVD is great. Sounds and looks incredible. Well worth the 7 or 8 bucks.
Pure brilliance, big band fireworks, ace and sparky!
Damn! Tight!
スピード感がいい
This is SO tight!
wow this is amazing!
"You guys...You guys are not my kind of guys. I'm going to take you outside and show you what it's like. See how well you do without all the assistance."
Richie Buddie
If you like the sax solos here 1:41 you'll love the Buddy Rich Big Band sax solo at the same concert posted elsewhere.
Sheez. Tearing.
This is nucking futs!
Buddy Rich was on an extraterrestrial level as a drummer. There have been scores of terrific jazz drummers (Louis Bellson, Kenny Clarke, Max Roach, Art Taylor, Rufus Jones, Kenny Washington, Lewis Nash, and so many others). But ask any of them and they would have said or say now that Buddy was on a different level. Watch his left hand at the 3:12 mark. No other drummer has ever done or is able to do that. But it wasn't only Buddy's incredible hands - it was his impeccable taste - that made him the greatest of all time.
i av gota try to listen this :S
perfection
Hands down.
I play trumpet. my bigband gonna try this song. Who is that guy on lead trumpet? maybe.. bobby shew??? Anyway, This is awesome!!! buddy Rich... He is one of the most great drummer. Especially.. on Big band, Swing!!!
It's Mark Ohlsen on lead trumpet. We played together in the NIU Jazz Ensemble under Ron Modell in the early '70's.
the master at it again! buddy rich is the man. period. just watch how he pushes the band sheer power, energy and mastery of the instrument. his fills are so right on.. because if you really listen are phrased perfectly to the feel and momentum of this chart.. of course buddy did this consistantly. compare this to 'vinnie coluita's" rendition and the difference is in your face.damn what a monster buddy rich was.......a legend!
GAWD....
@MrSunofbeach
Not Bobby Shew playing lead. By '78 he was long gone from Buddy's band and was playing lead for Toshiko Akiyoshi and Louie Bellson. That's also about the time he started his combo and was getting out of lead playing.
Liner notes say that was Chuck Schmidt playing lead. Could be - I never saw him live and don't know what he looks like. Based on other charts I've heard it doesn't sound like Chuck Schmidt, so not sure.
It is indeed Chuck Schmidt. My favorite lead player with Buddy.
Thank you so much MarkR1957!!!
I really appreciate it.
im a drummer and im more into roock and metal but i can appriciate jazz
@MrSunofbeach Lead trumpet is Chuck Schmidt ~
@theuntold90 That would be Gary Pribek, a fantastic reed man.
After Buddy's band, he went on to play with The Mel Lewis Jazz Orchestra ~
Tom Warrington on bass?
Yep
Buddy Rich...Hands down, the best jazz drummer ever!
Concord Blue Devils opener 1979
80-80 and 89, actually. BD didn't play it in 79. Opener in 79 was Chicago III Suite.
Strangely, none of this was quoted in the tag ending Wayne wrote from 80-84 (which I played...soprano in 84). The tag had parts of La Suerte de los Tontos, New York Fantasy, and Legend of a One-Eyed Sailor, but not YGT or Chase the Clouds Away (Jerry Seawright's fave BD chart)
Believe me...it is a different kind of brain that can think and drum like that...
Barry Gibson: Buddy was leaning so much the trumpet section began rushing the accents at the end, losing the independency of the quarter note triplets!
Great!!
@CherokeeMusic yes, and a lil frankenstein, sr. too.
Nice
That bone section is tight!
Buddy Rich = Rich Buddy (making him the Rich Buddy in town xD)
That's HOT DOT COM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Badasses
@scooter175971 well i was sorta joking lol but ya im learning jazz atm. So that was true he had a bad attitude? Some people say that if u knew him he wasn't so idk.......
@signupandmakemoney
In this part of the piece the 2nd trumpet play lead,
so the lead trumpet player can take a break after the very hard shout chorus,
to play his high-notes in the end :)
Listen to Dave Stahl on the record version. Plays everything and parts your hair with a double A at the end.
bem essa
Anyone else notice that what is actually going on here? The band drags every once in a while (so slightly...) and buddy yells at them; then they play the next phrase tighter. Scary dude!
The band drags slightly every once in a while? Good god, get a pair of hearing aids, man. This band is hot, clean and smoking. The entire set was superb.
I agree - would prefer to hear the trombone as a solo more often. It does seem like the sax dominates solos for some reason.
@futilityroom AGREE !
Is it swing? Or is it bop? Who cares it cooks!!!
Because big bands aren't small combos playing smooth jazz. Big bands are raw, aggressive, and loud. How could you not be with nearly 20 members?
Is this show on CD by any chance??