Really helpful breakdown on the differences between ur guitars. I play a Martin nylon crossover which I love. Coming from a steel string background it works for me. Great neck and feel. A nice warm and mellow tone. Great for jazz, Latin jazz and Brazilian. Doesn’t hold its own against classical imo for that repertoire. Great built in pick up system. Hey maybe this is why we have to have multiple guitars!!!!!😊
What I found helpful is ur simple description of the differences and how they meet different needs. And also why those developments emerged. It’s a refreshing contrast between those vids that out different against each other to find the ‘best one’ such as Taylor v Gibson v Martin. Seems to me ‘best’ is all about what you want for your own playing and what you want your sound to be. More of this would be great. And btw already after less than two years my Martin is playing in nicely.
Thank you. This was so informative. I am practicing Sor studies this summer on a Manuel Rodriguez Model B student classical guitar. You motivate me to keep practicing and look forward to acquiring a higher quality guitar one day.
Gosh....I actually owned a Richard Howell guitar also, it was great for Bach and Scarlatti. But I moved too flamenco more so my flamenco is nice but not as well refined. I also had a Maton classical C50. Also had a Paul Sheridan. Love your channel , fellow teacher here too. Be well
Great overview that I found helpful. You have wonderful instruments. I am considering a double top and trying to decide on cedar or spruce. I play a variety of classical, Spanish and noodling where I like an open, somewhat neutral sound. Ah, that piercing clarity of spruce! Perhaps a cedar double is in my future. I just subscribed and look forward to your videos. Thank you!
Amazing videos on your channel! :) Is there a size difference between flamenco and classical guitar? I have played a classical guitar and it is quite uncomfortable to play it in a position of a steel jumbo acoustic guitar, but flamenco players hold it very similarly except they cross their legs which increases the position height. Classical guitarists use natural placement of the right hand without twisting wrist which flamenco players do when playing picado (or i-m scales in a classical guitar vocabulary😁). hmm does that mean both guitars should be played elevated and at a slight angle? nobody seems to talk about this on youtube
thanks Igor. There may be a small size difference between classical and flamenco guitars but i would say only with the blanca flamencos which as you say are a bit thinner, the negra flamencos seem quite similar as they are really trying to sound more like classicals aiming for a deeper bottom end (bass) and sweeter tone. Before Paco de Lucia most flamenco players sat the guitar on the right leg and used their right arm to keep it there. Now flamencos often cross their legs, the result is a higher neck which as you suggest helps with left hand reach especially up neck.I tend for alternate between these positions and also use a footstool if necessary.
The neck on your first guitar did not look like rosewood, and rosewood would be very unusual. It has been done but it isn't common. Spanish cedar or mahogany would be much more likely, which is what that looks like.
The neck is not rosewood, it is mahogany. I find lattice guitars too loud and harsh. Fleta differentiates from other classical guitars as he uses a dovetail neck joint similar to violin construction. Segovia was personal friends with , and a great admirer of, Fleta. He used Fleta guitars for one year and abandoned them to go back to Ramirez; his choice of decades prior and post. He said they died early. ( as evidenced by the top braces showing through the tops on just one year. ) My Ramirez is a Flamenco IA F 1961 built by Contreras with cypress backs and sides and friction pegs. It is more of a classical guitar made of cypress than a flamenco guitar. One of the last built with the 650 scale and European Spruce tops. Shortly after Ramirez switched to Canadian Cedar tops ( actually western red cedar .. where I live (Oregon USA) ...cheap and available in massive quantities) which sound great on day one, need no breaking in, but according to Segovia have an extremely short life span. He preferred spruce tops. This was also Segovia's reason for his departure from Fleta.. cedar tops. Premature sinking of the tops and quickly worn out. I have owned many flamenco and classical guitars, currently a Cervantes Flamenco made by Pena. Monterey Cypress backs and sides and common sitka spruce top.. excellent. My favorite remains the Ramirez. Nothing like it being made today.
@@latinguitarmastery No apology necessary. A bit more about "Spanish" cedar (cedro). Not a true cedar, Spanish Cedar is actually more closely related to true Mahoganies (Swietenia and Khaya genera), as both are in the Meliaceae family. I have not played guitar in years. Your videos have inspired me to get back to it. I enjoy your channel.. liked and subscribed.
Many thanks for sharing. I am actually looking for a classical guitar that suits the best for classical music like bach, schubert etc, les for a Torres sound. I bought mine many years ago via the academy which had a spruce top and sounded very nice.. If i understand you correctly is that the lattice guitars sounds the best for these kind of music? And what about spruce or cedar? And the double top has still some romantic/sweet tones in it Thank you for your feedback.
I think all of these models can work for Bach and Schubert but probably the traditional guitar would be most authentic. The lattice and double tops are louder and built for the concert stage and chamber work but won’t necessarily give you sweetness of tone as much as a traditional guitar. That being said models and makers differ greatly so it really depends on the particular luthier.
Really helpful breakdown on the differences between ur guitars. I play a Martin nylon crossover which I love. Coming from a steel string background it works for me. Great neck and feel. A nice warm and mellow tone. Great for jazz, Latin jazz and Brazilian. Doesn’t hold its own against classical imo for that repertoire. Great built in pick up system. Hey maybe this is why we have to have multiple guitars!!!!!😊
exactly. Your guitar sounded great! It’s also about how much it’s played as guitars can age really well i’ve time if they are also played well.
What I found helpful is ur simple description of the differences and how they meet different needs. And also why those developments emerged. It’s a refreshing contrast between those vids that out different against each other to find the ‘best one’ such as Taylor v Gibson v Martin. Seems to me ‘best’ is all about what you want for your own playing and what you want your sound to be. More of this would be great. And btw already after less than two years my Martin is playing in nicely.
I'm a Classical guitarist, I'm curious about your Martin Nylon. What model and year? Does it by chance have a pup? Thank you
I don’t have a Martin nylon maybe you mean the Godin?
First guitar is a winner for my ears. Godin is also very good.
thanks for your thoughts
Thank you. This was so informative. I am practicing Sor studies this summer on a Manuel Rodriguez Model B student classical guitar. You motivate me to keep practicing and look forward to acquiring a higher quality guitar one day.
Great to hear! Thanks
Great vid; nice collection
thanks!
Gosh....I actually owned a Richard Howell guitar also, it was great for Bach and Scarlatti. But I moved too flamenco more so my flamenco is nice but not as well refined. I also had a Maton classical C50. Also had a Paul Sheridan. Love your channel , fellow teacher here too. Be well
Thanks for commenting!
For me, the paul Sheridan is the one I like the most...
It’s a nice tone for sure!
The traditional classical guitar sound is wonderful. Is that a cedar top?
Yes it’s cedar
Great work 😊
Thanks
very helpful, thanks.
You have such a beautiful flamenco touch. Do you have any recordings more in that style?
Thanks I have one album out on Spotify/Apple Music - you can search for my name Sergio Ercole
Great Video!
Great overview that I found helpful. You have wonderful instruments. I am considering a double top and trying to decide on cedar or spruce. I play a variety of classical, Spanish and noodling where I like an open, somewhat neutral sound. Ah, that piercing clarity of spruce! Perhaps a cedar double is in my future. I just subscribed and look forward to your videos. Thank you!
Great to hear! The double top is a great addition.
Amazing videos on your channel! :) Is there a size difference between flamenco and classical guitar? I have played a classical guitar and it is quite uncomfortable to play it in a position of a steel jumbo acoustic guitar, but flamenco players hold it very similarly except they cross their legs which increases the position height.
Classical guitarists use natural placement of the right hand without twisting wrist which flamenco players do when playing picado (or i-m scales in a classical guitar vocabulary😁). hmm does that mean both guitars should be played elevated and at a slight angle? nobody seems to talk about this on youtube
thanks Igor. There may be a small size difference between classical and flamenco guitars but i would say only with the blanca flamencos which as you say are a bit thinner, the negra flamencos seem quite similar as they are really trying to sound more like classicals aiming for a deeper bottom end (bass) and sweeter tone. Before Paco de Lucia most flamenco players sat the guitar on the right leg and used their right arm to keep it there. Now flamencos often cross their legs, the result is a higher neck which as you suggest helps with left hand reach especially up neck.I tend for alternate between these positions and
also use a footstool if necessary.
The neck on your first guitar did not look like rosewood, and rosewood would be very unusual. It has been done but it isn't common. Spanish cedar or mahogany would be much more likely, which is what that looks like.
@@BobStCyr yes I think it’s cedar, thanks
The neck is not rosewood, it is mahogany.
I find lattice guitars too loud and harsh.
Fleta differentiates from other classical guitars as he uses a dovetail neck joint similar to violin construction.
Segovia was personal friends with , and a great admirer of, Fleta. He used Fleta guitars for one year and abandoned
them to go back to Ramirez; his choice of decades prior and post. He said they died early. ( as evidenced by the top braces showing through the tops on just one year. )
My Ramirez is a Flamenco IA F 1961 built by Contreras with cypress backs and sides and friction pegs.
It is more of a classical guitar made of cypress than a flamenco guitar. One of the last built with the 650 scale and European Spruce tops.
Shortly after Ramirez switched to Canadian Cedar tops ( actually western red cedar .. where I live (Oregon USA) ...cheap and available in massive quantities)
which sound great on day one, need no breaking in, but according to Segovia have an extremely short life span. He preferred spruce tops.
This was also Segovia's reason for his departure from Fleta.. cedar tops. Premature sinking of the tops and quickly worn out.
I have owned many flamenco and classical guitars, currently a Cervantes Flamenco made by Pena. Monterey Cypress backs and sides and common sitka spruce top.. excellent.
My favorite remains the Ramirez. Nothing like it being made today.
Which guitar? The Howell is cedar neck, the back and sides are rose wood.
@@latinguitarmastery at 1:11 "the neck is rosewood".
You’re right I said rosewood but it’s cedar neck, apologies for the error.
Sounds like you have some very nice guitars.
@@latinguitarmastery No apology necessary.
A bit more about "Spanish" cedar (cedro).
Not a true cedar, Spanish Cedar is actually more closely related to true Mahoganies
(Swietenia and Khaya genera), as both are in the Meliaceae family.
I have not played guitar in years. Your videos have inspired me to get back to it.
I enjoy your channel.. liked and subscribed.
Could you tell me about double back classical guitars or (doblo tapa)? Are they similar to double tops? Thanks
Actually I don’t know about double back guitars
Jerry Reed used a Godin guitar in some songs back in the day. Do you ever do any Jerry reed song videos?
Sorry I don’t know him
Many thanks for sharing. I am actually looking for a classical guitar that suits the best for classical music like bach, schubert etc, les for a Torres sound. I bought mine many years ago via the academy which had a spruce top and sounded very nice.. If i understand you correctly is that the lattice guitars sounds the best for these kind of music? And what about spruce or cedar? And the double top has still some romantic/sweet tones in it Thank you for your feedback.
I think all of these models can work for Bach and Schubert but probably the traditional guitar would be most authentic. The lattice and double tops are louder and built for the concert stage and chamber work but won’t necessarily give you sweetness of tone as much as a traditional guitar. That being said models and makers differ greatly so it really depends on the particular luthier.
what about radial or falcate bracing?
There are a lot of different bracing styles I don’t currently own guitars with those
What’s the title of the song you played with the double top? Please! Sounds great by the way
It’s called Historia de Un Amor ruclips.net/video/s-3NPpe2xX0/видео.htmlsi=cIZ4NrIFKMBu6VeR
@@latinguitarmasteryThank you!!
❤
Very nice and complete demo. However, you need to improve your alzapua technique ! 😂
What about those old fashioned thin black plastic? strings? Cheers
Not sure about those..
To my taste the traditional sounds best.