Temperature and Precipitation || Worldbuilding Guide Series Part 6

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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024

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  • @catthecat2623
    @catthecat2623 Год назад +21

    this is literally a scientific let’s play and I’m here for it
    like button booped

  • @wafflingmean4477
    @wafflingmean4477 Год назад +17

    This is the kind of stuff I wish I learned in Geography class in school. Instead we spent at least 160 hours (roughly 4 hours a week over 40 weeks) learning how sand moves from one end of a beach to another. I'm not kidding. That's literally all we studied. All we did. 160 hours. A goddamn year. And not once did we learn anything like this.
    Despite my saltiness I'm actually in a good mood cos I binged this entire series so far this morning and it's giving me heaps of information that a lot of other map tutorials skip over. Thanks so much for the help!

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  Год назад

      😂 yeah this is definitely more advanced than I got too! I learned most of this when I was a geology major and then doing excessive research haha. I'm so glad you have been enjoying!

  • @Bevillia
    @Bevillia Год назад +8

    Got pointed towards your videos by Artifexian's latest video, just finished watching through this whole series and very much enjoyed them. You've struck a neat balance so far between including enough detail that why each thing happens can be logically followed without needing to break out maths, and I'm very much looking forward to more you do in this series.
    In terms of this photoshop style versus your earlier videos' paper style, I'm partial to this photoshop style myself. I use digital art tools for my own worldbuilding, so it's more reflective of my own workflow to see it put together that way, and as a minor benefit it means you spend more of the video explaining the "why" rather than timelapsing colouring in blocks of colour. That it's better for you timewise is also great!

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  Год назад +2

      I'm so glad the balance worked for you! I love the science and logic behind it all but I am NOT a maths person. The next video (hopefully up this or next week) has to have a chart/map to put all the parts together for assigning climate regions that I tried to keep as straightforward as possible.
      And I'm glad the style seems to be a win win! It also has the added bonus of helping me develop my Photoshop skills which are currently VERY mediocre. I look forward to learning more!
      And thank you so much for watching, it's been a blast getting more exposure on my guide series and I feel so motivated to keep it going 😊

  • @HashFier
    @HashFier Год назад +1

    Finally got time to watch this, this went into so much more detail towards Koppen than even Artiflexian. 🙌

  • @AbbaForensis
    @AbbaForensis 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks a ton for these videos! A lot of people go into detail, but you break it down in such a way that it's easy to understand and apply even when the planet differs from Earth. Which is very unique because most others get a bit too vague, fantasy, or technical. Thank you!!

  • @Maracunt
    @Maracunt 11 месяцев назад +1

    I really appreciate the new format. I was a bit skeptical at first, since I liked the videos of your pencil drawing very much. But it’s much clearer and it still looks very nice, I’m a big fan! (Also you should definitely do what’s easiest for you anyway!!)
    I’m excited for the next videos!

  • @arthurmachabee3606
    @arthurmachabee3606 Год назад +1

    This is world-building series is neat, I'm subscribing!

  • @jaycee945
    @jaycee945 Год назад +2

    Been looking forward to this one!
    Edit: I much prefer the photoshop method, especially if it's better for you timewise.

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  Год назад +1

      Oh good, I'm really glad! I think I can probably work in some time lapse drawing video or screen record too potentially but idk if it would improve things?

    • @jaycee945
      @jaycee945 Год назад

      @@madelinejameswrites I think it would definitely improve things.

  • @HarmonyWeaverArt
    @HarmonyWeaverArt 4 месяца назад

    I have been following along in this series for my own world and I noticed something in this video. The temperatures list cold as 0-10 C. This makes sense but it is said to be equal to 0 - 50 F. And while 10 C is equal to 50 F, 0 C is equal to 32 F. It is just a little error I noticed and figured I'd comment.
    But this series has been really helpful all around.

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  4 месяца назад

      Oh good catch! I'll fix that in the blog tonight and try to add a little correction marker to the video!

  • @samjacobsen9256
    @samjacobsen9256 2 месяца назад

    This was such a great video. I don’t like using any of the fancy climate simulators or illustrating software since I prefer doing this by hand so your style is perfect for me. Keep it up

  • @Alcarinqu
    @Alcarinqu Год назад

    I love your detailed Information about how to implement everything into ones world. I just watched the videos without making it with my world, because i am still missing a continent, there is so much good information about all these details i have missed until now. ^^
    And yes, i like the new format.

  • @eldantzler
    @eldantzler 8 месяцев назад +4

    I'm confused about this statement: "They will only influence more mild temperatures, so warm currents will increase the temperature of areas from EXTREMELY COLD to WARM". If you're saying that only mild temperatures are influences, wouldn't that only be warm/mild/cold? It seems like a big jump from extremely cold to warm. Maybe I'm misunderstanding (or underestimating the influence of cold/warm currents...). Any further elaboration you might be able to comment would really be appreciated :)

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  8 месяцев назад +3

      Sorry for the confusion! I meant essentially less-warm temperatures compared to the warmer currents. So all temperature areas WARM and colder will get warmer (not all the way from extremely cold to warm). Does that help?

    • @eldantzler
      @eldantzler 8 месяцев назад

      No worries! That does help a bit, thanks. I think the temperature map is the most challenging for me so far 😅 it’s a lot to wrap your head around with all the different maps to reference.
      Thank you!

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@eldantzler yeah, it really is! If I get the opportunity to do another pass over these, I will need to find a way to make it a little bit easier!

  • @gregwochlik9233
    @gregwochlik9233 Год назад

    Nice set of videos. I came from Artifexian's channel to have a look at your work. You managed to touch on topics which he didn't. The movement of the ITCZ made me "click". I can't wait to see what you do for the climate episode. The climates in my fictional world do need some polishing.
    I think the digital format better than the paper approach. But hey, we all started with pen and paper maps, myself included.
    Carry on doing what you love.

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  Год назад +1

      I'm so glad you're enjoying! This whole series really started with me trying to organize my notes and research into something I can follow myself and iterate on! The climate episode should be next week's video!
      Thank you 😊

  • @ajdogz5088
    @ajdogz5088 6 месяцев назад

    Well, I'm glad I came back to double-check. I made the mistake of using the northern winter temperature map for the winter aridity map instead of only the summer temperature map for both seasons. Fortunately I only did one continent and hadn't gotten past aridity so far so I can salvage things by leaving anything below the equator

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  6 месяцев назад

      Oh no! I've definitely done that a time or two, it's not funn

  • @aquatsar1769
    @aquatsar1769 7 месяцев назад

    This is a great series so far! Keep going with whatever approach for maps is best or easiest for you. Paper and digital both work for me, so pick the one that helps you the best for making these videos and for your blog. Also, I'm assuming the regional maps take these global ones and make minor adjustments to account for the regional detail? I'm curious to see how those maps will look.

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, they should incorporate more detail and nuance and some effects/features that aren't relevant at a global scale! And thank you!

  • @philippgnoyke
    @philippgnoyke 9 месяцев назад

    Kudos to you, very impressive to manually emulate tectonics, temperature, ocean currents, atmospheric circulation, precipitation and biomes based on all of that, you definitely set quite a high bar for the worldbuilders out there!
    Very minor remark: With regards to atmospheric circulation and derived precipitation, personally my intuition would be a bit different with regards to your left and right continents in the region of the tropics.
    I would expect that tropical easterlies would push wet ocean air onto the eastern mountain ranges, especially when accompanied by warm ocean currents. Conversely the western side of tropical continents with cold upwelling currents should create dry conditions with coastal deserts. This tropical pattern should then flip when going to the temperate zone where westerlies dominate.
    So I think for your left continent, the tropical mountain ranges (30°S to 30°N) could be drier on the western side and wetter on the eastern side of the continent. If it is an especially large landmass one could argue that monsoons would seasonally pull in more precipitation, which could then make the western side wetter again.
    Anyways, great to see such an amount of effort put into creating an authentic background purely for narration!

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  9 месяцев назад +1

      I think you're probably right with taking some time to look at it. I've been playing around with precipitation in my most recent maps with the wind belts and I don't think I have it quite right yet. Maybe it's as simple as having those belts be a lot more influential in my system? The equatorial region is just not as wet as I expect either. Something I did in this map for this guide that I've changed in my most recent one is not changing the location of the non-itcz belts as much too because that is definitely a factor. If I can get it figured out right, I'll need to go back and update that part somehow!

    • @philippgnoyke
      @philippgnoyke 9 месяцев назад

      @@madelinejameswrites Well, I don't know if you did, but aside from considering general surface wind directions, the average wind speed might be helpful here. Example:
      earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/1824/global-wind-speed
      In general there is a low speed region at the equator, sandwiched by local maxima wind speed belts at ~20° (trades), followed by low speed regions and then maximum wind speeds at ~50° (westerlies), decreasing somewhat towards the poles (polar easterlies).
      How much influence they would have on the continents would depend quite heavily on the orientation and height of mountain ranges. So it might be plausible that the interior of your left continent is a bit drier at the equator, since there is this eastern coastal mountain range.

  • @EmmaBennetAuthor
    @EmmaBennetAuthor Год назад +1

    Like button booped.x

  • @Seagull_House
    @Seagull_House 11 месяцев назад

    i personally like colouring in the extremes of percipitation, and leaving "moderate" rainfall as the default colour, but its basically the same method, all i have to do is colour the initial super-dry zones instead of just circling them

  • @rensdenbraber5642
    @rensdenbraber5642 25 дней назад

    hey!, Ive just binged your series and i love it so far! Iam making my own map and am now in the process of making the temperature map. The only thing is with the maritime effect its supposed to be milding right? In the video and on the blog it says to extend cold into very cold etc and hot into very hot, but it should be the exact opposite going into the direction of warm/mild zones right? i thought i just point that out, but maybe i missed something. other then that i am loving these videos so much! the maps are alot of work but ive been following them all and its been fun!

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  25 дней назад +1

      @@rensdenbraber5642 so that means that your cold regions will take over some of your very cold etc. which is making it less cold. The wording was a bit confusing! And I'm so glad you're enjoying!! It's always fun to have new people to the guide ☺️

    • @rensdenbraber5642
      @rensdenbraber5642 25 дней назад

      ooo nevermind haha! I just started and now i understand what u meant. The zones extend into the other zones. English is not my first language so sometimes it trips me up haha, sorry!

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  25 дней назад +1

      @@rensdenbraber5642 no problem at all!!

  • @krimm
    @krimm 7 дней назад

    Love your video series! But I have some questions would huge lakes, mediterranean/baltic/gulf-type seas etc affect precipitation and temperature? My main continent has a lot of that, but I see your example world doesn't so makes sense you didn't go into detail about that. Right now I've been extending the "outside" warm/cold ocean current into seas and gulfs but that gives soo much ocean current effect on large parts of the continent. This also has me stumped in regards to mapping continentality effect on temperature, should I measure that from sea/lake coast or only from ocean coast?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  2 дня назад +1

      You'd essentially want to expand those effects but not as far in and maybe not as extreme into those areas. And if you have a big inland sea/inlet etc it would definitely keep the continality from that area. But if it's smaller, you could still see it. It's definitely very much a scale.

    • @krimm
      @krimm День назад

      @@madelinejameswrites Thanks, makes sense. I’ll try tweaking it. I’m probably overengineering a bit, added seas and lakes to counter the extreme dryness of the inland but now I have the opposite problem haha.. getting so much Cfc and Cfb

  • @SpuneDagr
    @SpuneDagr 8 месяцев назад +1

    At around 33:00 when you're doing the aridity map, what happened to "semi-humid?" That was one of the classifications from the previous screen, but then you don't reference it anymore?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  8 месяцев назад +1

      I simplified that down into humid since I didn't need it to be quite that granular for my system going forward. It could be something I bring back at some point though. Sorry for that being unclear!

  • @orioni
    @orioni Год назад +1

    Something non-cartography related, and mostly about the video: your camera seems to have some issues focussing on your face versus your bookcase in the background. It switches every couple of second. This is rather distracting. Any way to fix this autofocus?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  Год назад

      Thank you for the feedback!! I noticed this while I was editing, and I think it was worse this time than it usually is and I'm not sure why. Next time I film I can try to use manual focus and just not move around much. I tend to have this problem occasionally on normal videos, but this one was particularly bad! Maybe it's because my face is off center? Not sure but I can definitely try manual focus next time!

  • @ActuallyOpal
    @ActuallyOpal 8 месяцев назад

    Hey! I've been having a lot of fun following along this series, seeing my world come together step by step is very exciting :) Thank you so much for making this series.
    I do have a question though, I don't really understand the part at 32:21. To get our aridity map, why do we only use the summer temperature, but summer/winter precipitation?
    (Also, the info graphic is in german, not dutch :) Though our languages look pretty similar)

    • @ActuallyOpal
      @ActuallyOpal 8 месяцев назад

      I also have some pretty extreme temperature variation, big landmass interiors going from "hot" to "very cold" or "warm" to "extremely cold" depending on the season, is there any way to fix this?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  8 месяцев назад

      So determining evapotranspiration in the koppen climate classification system uses the annual precipitation and then a complicated grading scale based on when precipitation is received and what the temperature is then. This is an attempt to simplify that by only looking at the highest average temperature over the year (aka summer). This something I got from I think it was the Geoff Climate Cookbook for how he models this stuff. I couldn't find a more straightforward way to do it.

  • @dannynoir9058
    @dannynoir9058 5 месяцев назад

    When talking about the polar belt around 29:00 you say decrease the temperature on the western side of the Continental Interiors. Does that mean split the continent vertically down the middle and decrease every thing on the west side that lies between 30 and 45 deg? Also, does it influence all the way to the coast?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  5 месяцев назад +1

      I would make it more of a gradual split, more like a sideways teardrop kind of shape if that makes sense? But mostly in that half year. And it's mainly the Continental interiors so it shouldn't go all the way to the coast. Does that make sense? I should have made a graphic or something

    • @dannynoir9058
      @dannynoir9058 5 месяцев назад

      @@madelinejameswrites so a teardrop shape with the round end on the west and getting pointy as it approaches the east, with the round end not extending all the way to the coast?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@dannynoir9058 yes!

  • @lasuperfideo
    @lasuperfideo 24 дня назад

    Question: I noticed that your small island doesn't receive any rainfall. I saw the reasoning for it is because of offshore winds but it's odd seeing an island with little to no precipitation. Can you clarify why is your island so dry?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  24 дня назад +1

      @@lasuperfideo which island specifically? And I would probably end up adding more precipitation if I went back a redid it now that I've done more research regardless

    • @lasuperfideo
      @lasuperfideo 24 дня назад

      @@madelinejameswrites the one located West at the southern 30th parallel and that makes sense! I would like to see an updated version of this method.
      It's been very insightful as I'm redoing my entire continent for my D&D campaign.
      Thanks for the reply!

  • @ronniabati
    @ronniabati 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the details… got a question regarding arid vs humid.
    How much of an effect do forests have on retaining moisture and decreasing evaporation?
    Can some of the semi-arid regions become humid if they’re forested?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  11 месяцев назад

      I haven't seen anything about, at least from the research I've seen so far. Trees can access water deeper underground than most other things, so there are probably scenarios where some could grow in areas that would normally be too arid, and they do provide shade that can lower temperatures below them... So I feel like some effect would probably be possible. It's an interesting idea, if there's a way the forest would start growing there in the first place.

    • @krimm
      @krimm 20 дней назад

      I think Rainforests kinda have that effect in a self reinforcing way: it’s rainforest because it rains a lot but it also rains a lot because of the rainforest. Which I think is yet another reason that it’s OK to edit if you think your equator is too dry. But I’d assume many climate regions have similar feedback systems which would get really complex to map. E.g. desertification

  • @reptilesarecool6739
    @reptilesarecool6739 5 месяцев назад

    Question - I noticed my poles seemed really warm for their latitude, even in winters. I am curious if it makes sense to separate each temperature zone by exactly 15 degrees instead of 16.6, which gives an extra band of very cold at the summer pole. What are the potential issues associated with doing this? Just felt weird having mild climates at like 80 degrees south in wintertime where there should be ice cover. Appreciate any feedback and thank you for the awesome guide :)

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hmm I would think it's more likely that you didn't apply some of the other cold effects enough BUT it's definitely something to try to see if it works better for you as a starting point to work with

    • @reptilesarecool6739
      @reptilesarecool6739 5 месяцев назад

      @madelinejameswrites was hoping it wasnt something like that, RIP. Time to re-do them again haha - I appreciate you taking the time to help :) these videos have done wonders for my knowledge, can’t thank you enough for your work :)

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@reptilesarecool6739 and remember you can always tweak things at the end of that's all they need! I normally have to redo a few maps every time I do this though haha but I'm glad you're enjoying the process!

    • @reptilesarecool6739
      @reptilesarecool6739 5 месяцев назад

      @madelinejameswrites I’ve gone through two full rounds, the second go with the additional cold ended up working better-ish, but I do keep ending up with what seems to be a shockingly large amount of deserts (at least pre-cleanup), just because equator is always lacking humidity. I am certain this is user error on my end, but just gotta keep iterating until I figure out what I did wrong lmao
      Thanks again and can’t wait for the mineral deposit video :)

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@reptilesarecool6739 oooh there's a tweak I've been adding. When you add precipitation to your ITCZ, extend that towards the equator. My system is missing the intense amount of rain between the ITCZ during different times of year. I did this after the fact on one of my maps and just extended the tropical climate zones around the equator. That might help!

  • @ajdogz5088
    @ajdogz5088 10 месяцев назад

    My planet is 10.5 degrees Celsius, which is a few degrees colder than earth. How should i adjust things to account for it?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  10 месяцев назад +1

      It's a lot more compliments and would probably require further research, but the simple thing would be to have each temperature band skewed to shrink the hottest one in the middle. So maybe for a few degrees, make the very hot one half to 2/3 as big?

    • @ajdogz5088
      @ajdogz5088 10 месяцев назад

      @madelinejameswrites rainfall should also be reduced thanks to less evaporation, but the colder temperature will also lead to less aridity. So, there will be a reduction of hot deserts, but an expansion of cold deserts and especially in continental interiors

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@ajdogz5088 that sounds about right! Not sure if it would all end up working out perfectly, but it sounds reasonable to give it a try and see how it looks!

  • @papagaiofilmes6642
    @papagaiofilmes6642 Год назад

    What about the rivers?

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  Год назад +1

      I'm planning on doing rivers once I get to the regional maps!

    • @papagaiofilmes6642
      @papagaiofilmes6642 Год назад

      @@madelinejameswrites that's nice!
      I kinda thought they had any influence in climate and aridness though.

    • @madelinejameswrites
      @madelinejameswrites  Год назад +1

      @@papagaiofilmes6642 based on my understanding/research (which is always expanding and has more room to grow), not to an extent that it would impact a global map. Evapotranspiration from a river would be pretty minimal compared to an ocean or other large body of water. A river would likely have local impacts, but not more than that to my understanding. A river through a desert won't make it not a desert, but the land right along the water would be able to support more plant life/crops, a sort of oasis.